Re: [GNU-linux-libre] palemoon browser

2017-08-12 Thread ng0 
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> Oh, and we also have similar efforts with things like GNU IceCat and
> Trisquel's Abrowser. It probably makes more sense to work together and
> not fragment efforts by starting yet another modified version of a
> Firefox-based browser.

I think there's a misunderstanding.

I'm only looking into making a package (as in: for operating systems,
from the perspective of a packager) with a minimal changes (could be
regarded as "patches") and adjusted settings so that this software
maybe is acceptable for us GNU systems.

I'm not looking into starting another project, I have more than I should
do already going on.

And Palemoon used to be firefox based, but it has since then diverged
and developed its own engine etc. This is why I was looking into it,
and curiosity.

I already have a working "New Moon" (Pale Moon branded 'unofficial') build.
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Re: [GNU-linux-libre] palemoon browser

2017-08-12 Thread Jason Self 
Oh, and we also have similar efforts with things like GNU IceCat and
Trisquel's Abrowser. It probably makes more sense to work together and
not fragment efforts by starting yet another modified version of a
Firefox-based browser.

Re: [GNU-linux-libre] palemoon browser

2017-08-12 Thread Jason Self 
It seems to have redistribution problems similar to Firefox, along 
with the misunderstanding that free software isn't about cost. It can
be modified, and then a re-branded version could be distributed free
of those problems, but this is also true of Firefox so I'm not sure
what benefit there is to using Palemoon as a base over Firefox.

[GNU-linux-libre] palemoon browser

2017-08-11 Thread ng0 
Hi,

has someone looked into Pale Moon browser before?
I have a first functional package definition for Guix,
but it has obvious issues with trademarks or at least their distribution 
guidelines.
The website is behind Cloudflare, so I have to link to an archived page instead:
https://web.archive.org/web/20161116213017/https://www.palemoon.org/licensing.shtml
These are their redistribution guidelines:
https://web.archive.org/web/20170619230207/http://www.palemoon.org:80/redist.shtml

We have the option to build from source, so we could skip
the binary distribution part and their really unfortunate
guidelines.

However this https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=24=2660
seems to indicate that it would be just fine with official branding disabled.

But mostly I'm interested in the thought experiment of what
could be altered to make it compatible to the GNU FSDG at runtime.
The most obvious part is: their default homepage of the web browser
includes cookies and links to various SaaS such as Faceboogle
(they are using the service "start.me").

They exclude Google from the default search engines and default to
Duckduckgo.

You can't use the mozilla addon store with it unless you point it to
it directly (not via browser internals), but they link to it in the
"about:addons" page as a choice between "Pale Moon Addons Site" and
"Mozilla Addons Site". Both open as websites, not in-browser mode.
Mozilla could be patched away.

Somewhere I had more information but it wasn't organized on paper
or in a git and got lost.

Codecs could be another problem as far as I can guess.

Anything I've missed?
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