Re: I wrote a C tutorial
Someone who Jonathan Bartlett failed to identify wrote: > Specifically: clause that says that it can be distributed under any later > version of a license with same name if that is published by FSF. >From the GFDL: Each version of the License is given a distinguishing version number. If the Document specifies that a particular numbered version of this License "or any later version" applies to it, you have the option of following the terms and conditions either of that specified version or of any later version that has been published (not as a draft) by the Free Software Foundation. If the Document does not specify a version number of this License, you may choose any version ever published (not as a draft) by the Free Software Foundation. Notice the "if"s. If you specify a particular version number that is the only one that applies. This section is not as clear as it could be, but it does not require that you accept future versions of the GFDL. (I do not endorse the GFDL.) -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Immigration is Good!
This article says it all. http://www.lp.org/issues/immigration.shtml Yibbels wrote: > Despite the fact that Microsoft receives $1 billion > per year in undeserved tax breaks, apparently big > Republican donor Bill Gates doesn't feel there's > any reason he should employ actual Americans workers. > As the following news story explains, Bill Gates wants > to do away with all limits on H1B visas, which are the > primary visa used in the high tech industry. This would > leads to a jump in the unemployment rate, destroy careers, > and would lead to a rush to import cheap workers which > would certainly put national security at greater risk. > > http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBZXQZY18E.html ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [Wallace v. FSF/GPL] Civil Complaint No. 1:05-cv-0618-JDT-TAB
Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: [... *BONK* ... *BONK*BONK* ...] Well, // Yet another Groklaw gadfly, so to speak Wallace is just repeating what SCO claimed about IBM's Eight Counterclaim: 2. The GPL Should Not Be Read to Allow a Competitor to Regulate What May Be Charged for an Intellectual Property License By arguing that SCO breached the GPL by collecting "royalties and licensing fees in excess of the fees permitted by the GPL," IBM Mem. at 14, IBM seeks in essence an interpretation that the GPL fixes limits on the amounts that may be charged for unmodified works, even though the parties to the agreement are competitors. Agreements between competitors that fix a maximum price that may be charged for products are per se illegal under antitrust law. NYNEX Corp. v. Discon, Inc., 525 U.S. 128, 133 (1998); United States v. Socony- Vacuum Oil Co., 310 U.S. 150, 218 (1940). While SCO has shown above that section 2 of the GPL (the only GPL provision requiring licensing "at no charge") is inapplicable here, because this motion does not involve modified works, this provision is illegal and unenforceable. The general counsel for the Open Source Initiative acknowledges in his recent treatise: "There is also a problem that may prevent enforcement of the GPL's at no charge provision. It may be an illegal restraint of trade in some countries. Ordinarily, companies are allowed to set their own prices, and it is improper for a GPL licensor to restrain that in anyway." L. Rosen, Open Source Licensing 132 (2004), available at http://www.phptr.com/content/images/0131487876_ch06.pdf. Note that under FSF's copyright theory, Section 2 is applicable not only to modifications, but also to all "combinations" http://web.novalis.org/talks/compliance-for-developers/slide-6.html http://web.novalis.org/talks/compliance-for-developers/slide-75.html that are not legal http://web.novalis.org/talks/compliance-for-developers/slide-54.html in the GNU Republic. regards, alexander. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: "Adobe Open Source License" GPL compatible?
Isaac wrote: [...] > don't agree with his conclusions involving first sale, Well, http://lists.essential.org/upd-discuss/msg00137.html The crucial point is that when we release a program under the GPL, we do not claim that all possessors of a copy have agreed to any contract with us. Still don't agree? regards, alexander. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [Wallace v. FSF/GPL] Civil Complaint No. 1:05-cv-0618-JDT-TAB
John Hasler wrote: > > Alexander Terekhov writes: > > Does anyone have a link to the complaint? TIA. > > It's only available through PACER. I'm sure it'll be on Groklaw soon. Indeed. Now, PJ's trash talk aside for a moment, does anyone have a link to the amended complaint? ;-) regards, alexander. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: [Wallace v. FSF/GPL] Civil Complaint No. 1:05-cv-0618-JDT-TAB
On Mon, 2005-05-02 at 18:19 +0200, Alexander Terekhov wrote: > http://linuxbusinessnews.sys-con.com/read/80782.htm The content looks like a late April Fool's joke. Sadly it seems it isn't, but then again, it wouldn't be the first time Maureen O'Gara derived "facts" out of absurd conclusions. GPL âcontract licensing schemeâ artificially fixes software prices *BONK* The price -fixing scheme implemented with the use of the GNU General Public License substantially lessens the ability of individual software authors to compete in a free market through the creation, sale and distribution of computer software programs.â *BONK*BONK* I'm selling my Free Software based services with circa 75% GPL'ed software for a good money (hourly), and although I'm just starting on my own parallel business, it's been quite productive. If I get a few more clients like this, I can quit my day-job. Rui -- + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the participants in comp.os.linux.advocacy: I was watching a TV documentary about monkeys and how they behave in captivity, and it occurred to me that this newsgroup (comp.os.linux.advocacy), more than the others that I sometimes read, is just like a monkey cage populated by chimpanzees. You're always trying to gain You're like that guy in the beer commercial, where the monkey takes his beer and then the guy gets into the cage, and the monkey taunts him. -- Texeme http://texeme.com ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
On 02 May 2005 in sci.psychology.psychotherapy, "Edwin" made their contribution to mankind by stating in news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble: >> > To the participants in comp.os.linux.advocacy: >> > >> > I was watching a TV documentary about monkeys and >> > how they behave in captivity, and it occurred to me >> > that this newsgroup (comp.os.linux.advocacy), more than >> > the others that I sometimes read, is just like a monkey cage >> > populated by chimpanzees. >> >> Why would anyone put chimps into a monkey's cage? That's cruel and > they >> should be prosecuted under animal cruelty laws. >> >> Chimps eat monkeys. > > I never knew chimps were so kinky. > > a shit fight followed by true primate sex.. I think we could sell that on the internet... -- ThePsyko Public Enemy #7 http://prozac.iscool.net ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
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Re: [Wallace v. FSF/GPL] Civil Complaint No. 1:05-cv-0618-JDT-TAB
Alexander Terekhov writes: > Does anyone have a link to the complaint? TIA. It's only available through PACER. I'm sure it'll be on Groklaw soon. -- John Hasler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI USA ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble: > > To the participants in comp.os.linux.advocacy: > > > > I was watching a TV documentary about monkeys and > > how they behave in captivity, and it occurred to me > > that this newsgroup (comp.os.linux.advocacy), more than > > the others that I sometimes read, is just like a monkey cage > > populated by chimpanzees. > > Why would anyone put chimps into a monkey's cage? That's cruel and they > should be prosecuted under animal cruelty laws. > > Chimps eat monkeys. I never knew chimps were so kinky. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] did eloquently scribble: > To the participants in comp.os.linux.advocacy: > > I was watching a TV documentary about monkeys and > how they behave in captivity, and it occurred to me > that this newsgroup (comp.os.linux.advocacy), more than > the others that I sometimes read, is just like a monkey cage > populated by chimpanzees. Why would anyone put chimps into a monkey's cage? That's cruel and they should be prosecuted under animal cruelty laws. Chimps eat monkeys. -- __ | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | |Andrew Halliwell BSc(hons)| "The day Microsoft makes something that doesn't | |in| suck is probably the day they start making | | Computer science | vacuum cleaners" - Ernst Jan Plugge| -- ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
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Re: [Wallace v. FSF/GPL] Civil Complaint No. 1:05-cv-0618-JDT-TAB
Alexander Terekhov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > http://linuxbusinessnews.sys-con.com/read/80782.htm Guffaw. It is the usual balanced reporting one has come to expect from "Linuxbusinessnews" and its spin queen Maureen O'Gara. The interesting question is just _who_ reads this stuff, given that her off-field predictions oh so surprisingly quite consistently fail to come into being. > Does anyone have a link to the complaint? TIA. Sounds completely lunatic even in the representation from this well-known reliable source. I can't see that this is something anybody should be worrying about much. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
[Wallace v. FSF/GPL] Civil Complaint No. 1:05-cv-0618-JDT-TAB
http://linuxbusinessnews.sys-con.com/read/80782.htm Does anyone have a link to the complaint? TIA. regards, alexander. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
As we all know, monkies have really low IQ, and that gnus are superior in every way. Have you ever seen a monkey beat a gnu? Thought so... But the hurd must watch out for all the evil corcodiles that wish to ensare us with their dirty tricks! So lets roam on the savannahs and be free! It's a pity, because Linux is a good operating system, I might add as a serious note that the only pity is that this false hood is spread around, Linux is not a operating system, it is a kernel. The operating system you refer to is a variant of the GNU system; usually called GNU/Linux or GNU+Linux. See www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html for details. Happy hacking! And stay away from the tar pits (software patents) and corcodiles (non-free software)! ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: I wrote a C tutorial
> I would prefer to not do that. Then don't use GNU material. > Descriptions and prototypes of these functions > have been taken from info libc ; >Descriptions have been (heavily) edited, > Prototypes have been included nearly unaltered. If you don't want to use the GNU license, I suggest the following: * delete the chapter * copy the prototypes * describe it entirely in your own words, using the libc manual for reference only, not for wording > It requires me to put my manual under your license, > which license, in my opinion, > is either a covert way of phrasing a proprietary licence, > or does not represent intentions of it's author(s) ; The issue with proprietary licenses is that they REMOVE rights while the GFDL and GPL GRANT additional rights. > Specifically: clause that says that > it can be distributed under any later version of >a license with same name if that is published by FSF. >In effect, this transfers copyright of my manual to FSF, Incorrect. You still remain copyright, and can re-license the part of the material that is your own under any license you wish. > (which is not a democratic organization, >nor does it de facto represent large majority of users), > instead of, as i would like, to all members of public. That would be a bad idea. Why on earth should the FSF be a democratic organization? > (Is 'obligation to give FSF carte blanche' >your interpretation of 'free licence' ?) >Why would anybody ever want to include a clause like that ? Future compatibility. ? I also think there are some aspects of this matter where obeying letter of GFDL goes against principles of free documentation as expressed by FSF, for example, i can create that chapter in another way : grep through my own programs, to see which functions are used often, and make an educated guess as to their arguments and returnvalue ; This is incorrect. INFORMATION cannot be copyrighted. If you read through the libc documentation, the information you grasp from there is not copyrighted. The presentation of the information is. To the extent that there is only one way of communicating certain information (for example, C interface definitions), copyright does not apply. You are certainly free to learn from the libc manuals and then retell the same information in your own way. What is not permitted is verbatim copying of GNU's creative work. > It seems to me that documentation of libc itself violates GFDL. Specifically, in license it reads : A "Transparent" copy of the Document means a machine-readable copy, represented in a format whose specification is available to the general public, whose contents can be viewed and edited directly and straightforwardly ... In case of libc, if what i got with Debian is not a transparent copy, If that were the case, then it is Debian, not the libc manual, which is in error. But I doubt this was the case. Look in the source files for Debian -- you will likely find a Texinfo document there. Texinfo is (a) editable, (b) viewable, (c) machine-readable, and (d) the specification is available online. Jon Learn to program using Linux assembly language http://www.cafeshops.com/bartlettpublish.8640017 ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
One must remain vigilant against the monkey tendencies of these participants, and point out repeatedly their monkey behavior. It's the only way: one must shame them into behaving like civilized humans. Because when the subject is ignored, they feel they have a license to devolve into their repressed primate personalities. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim wrote: A negative reaction. Hmm. Were your feelings hurt or something? not especially. Although, I do consider your presence in my life, even digitally, to be unwelcome. You're are indeed like the monkey in the cage: upon seeing the unwanted outsider, who threatens to make you feel guilty and ashamed, you get angry and tell him he's not welcome here. It's equivalent to jumping up and down, screeching, and showing your teeth. I didn't say you were unwelcome here, you knock yourself out and post all the drivel you want to. I said you're not welcome in my digital life. Stop twisting words (even when you QUOTE VERBATIM! IDIOT!) to make them seem to mean what you want them to mean. -- Cheers, Jim -begin sig- Opinions expressed in this message may or may not be representative of the opinions of its author. You decide. Web:http://www.dotware.co.uk http://www.dotware-entertainment.co.uk Portable: P4m 2.0, 1GB, 40GB, MX440/15" [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wi-Fi, GPRS, DVD/CDRW, XPSP2/Knoppix Powerbook G3/400, 392MB, 20GB, Rage 128/15"@1024x768, Wi-Fi, DVD, Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" Dev. Build Desktop: AMD64 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 512MB, 80GB, FX5700LE/32" [EMAIL PROTECTED], DVD+-RW, XPSP1/Debian FileServer: Athlon XP 2400+, 256MB, 2.72TB, Blind, MuLinux More but I'm not tellin' ya, there's a pool forming at your feet. -end sig- ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
Jim wrote: > > A negative reaction. Hmm. Were your feelings hurt or something? > > > not especially. Although, I do consider your presence in my life, even > digitally, to be unwelcome. You're are indeed like the monkey in the cage: upon seeing the unwanted outsider, who threatens to make you feel guilty and ashamed, you get angry and tell him he's not welcome here. It's equivalent to jumping up and down, screeching, and showing your teeth. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim wrote: Welcome to the Cage, Mr. Monkey. A negative reaction. Hmm. Were your feelings hurt or something? not especially. Although, I do consider your presence in my life, even digitally, to be unwelcome. -- Cheers, Jim -begin sig- Opinions expressed in this message may or may not be representative of the opinions of its author. You decide. Web:http://www.dotware.co.uk http://www.dotware-entertainment.co.uk Portable: P4m 2.0, 1GB, 40GB, MX440/15" [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wi-Fi, GPRS, DVD/CDRW, XPSP2/Knoppix Powerbook G3/400, 392MB, 20GB, Rage 128/15"@1024x768, Wi-Fi, DVD, Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" Dev. Build Desktop: AMD64 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 512MB, 80GB, FX5700LE/32" [EMAIL PROTECTED], DVD+-RW, XPSP1/Debian FileServer: Athlon XP 2400+, 256MB, 2.72TB, Blind, MuLinux More but I'm not tellin' ya, there's a pool forming at your feet. -end sig- ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
Jim wrote: > Welcome to the Cage, Mr. Monkey. A negative reaction. Hmm. Were your feelings hurt or something? ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > To the participants in comp.os.linux.advocacy: > > I was watching a TV documentary about monkeys and how they behave in > captivity, and it occurred to me that this newsgroup > (comp.os.linux.advocacy), more than the others that I sometimes read, > is just like a monkey cage populated by chimpanzees. And you would be just another one of the monkeys. Considering that you know this, and still stay here, what does it say about you? That you perhaps have a desire to join the crap flinging? ;-) > B. Yarmfelder Why did you change from 'Yibbels'? Follow-ups set to the monkey-cage ... :-) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCdjTnd1ZThqotgfgRAgRhAKCi2D3lWfDTQpKTgYIPsCD92dJkJACgtSdI 9JExF4VlwkDrrXh7UuQ+ErM= =ffxz -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- PeKaJe My other computer is your XP box. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To the participants in comp.os.linux.advocacy: I was watching a TV documentary about monkeys and how they behave in captivity, and it occurred to me that this newsgroup (comp.os.linux.advocacy), more than the others that I sometimes read, is just like a monkey cage populated by chimpanzees. You're always trying to gain dominance over one another, always screaming wild insults, denying the obvious, beating your chests by pretending to know more than you do, and generally being mean and cruel and thriving on the chaos like a bunch of chimps. It's funny to watch, insofar as it's funny to watch chimps go berzerk, however it's clear after watching for only a little while that like chimps you simply have no standards and that your behavior is constantly sinking to the lowest depths. It's a pity, because Linux is a good operating system, the result of heartfelt generosity, and I'd hate to see it dragged down by people who are more monkey than human; and it's not that all of the monkeys are advocates for Linux of course. Furthermore, I note a distinct difference in degree between the behavior of the monkeys in comp.os.linux.advocacy and in many other groups, where participants are much more civil, but one can see the same behaviors in all groups. And I might add, that "reality TV" also shows us this behavior but because people are showing themselves, the cowards among them cannot become more monkeylike for fear of feeling guilty or ashamed. B. Yarmfelder Welcome to the Cage, Mr. Monkey. The bottom of the pecking order is over there, in amongst all the shit. -- Cheers, Jim -begin sig- Opinions expressed in this message may or may not be representative of the opinions of its author. You decide. Web:http://www.dotware.co.uk http://www.dotware-entertainment.co.uk Portable: P4m 2.0, 1GB, 40GB, MX440/15" [EMAIL PROTECTED], Wi-Fi, GPRS, DVD/CDRW, XPSP2/Knoppix Powerbook G3/400, 392MB, 20GB, Rage 128/15"@1024x768, Wi-Fi, DVD, Mac OS X 10.4 "Tiger" Dev. Build Desktop: AMD64 [EMAIL PROTECTED], 512MB, 80GB, FX5700LE/32" [EMAIL PROTECTED], DVD+-RW, XPSP1/Debian FileServer: Athlon XP 2400+, 256MB, 2.72TB, Blind, MuLinux More but I'm not tellin' ya, there's a pool forming at your feet. -end sig- ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: you're like monkeys in a cage
Yeah, But, what do you do about it? ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
you're like monkeys in a cage
To the participants in comp.os.linux.advocacy: I was watching a TV documentary about monkeys and how they behave in captivity, and it occurred to me that this newsgroup (comp.os.linux.advocacy), more than the others that I sometimes read, is just like a monkey cage populated by chimpanzees. You're always trying to gain dominance over one another, always screaming wild insults, denying the obvious, beating your chests by pretending to know more than you do, and generally being mean and cruel and thriving on the chaos like a bunch of chimps. It's funny to watch, insofar as it's funny to watch chimps go berzerk, however it's clear after watching for only a little while that like chimps you simply have no standards and that your behavior is constantly sinking to the lowest depths. It's a pity, because Linux is a good operating system, the result of heartfelt generosity, and I'd hate to see it dragged down by people who are more monkey than human; and it's not that all of the monkeys are advocates for Linux of course. Furthermore, I note a distinct difference in degree between the behavior of the monkeys in comp.os.linux.advocacy and in many other groups, where participants are much more civil, but one can see the same behaviors in all groups. And I might add, that "reality TV" also shows us this behavior but because people are showing themselves, the cowards among them cannot become more monkeylike for fear of feeling guilty or ashamed. B. Yarmfelder ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
