Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz]

begin  In <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, on
05/02/2005
   at 06:21 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

>always screaming wild insults,

New to Usenet, aren't you? That sort of mildly critical dialog is
standard. They don't really have flames on Usenet. They think they do,
but that's only because they've never seen the real thing. Back in the
old days, before FIDO, when men were men and sheep were scared, there
were some real flames. 

>like a bunch of chimps.

Sorry, tonto, but you're doing what you accuse us (TINU) of, only in
not nearly as erudite a fashion.

>Furthermore, I note a distinct difference in degree between the
>behavior of the monkeys in comp.os.linux.advocacy and in many other
>groups, where participants are much more civil,

ROTF,LMAO! Sorry, faygeleh, but you wouldn't know civil if it hit you
in the face.

I don't mind that your an ignorant, pretentious fool with delusions of
adequacy, but a don't care for hypocrisy. Call for civility of you
wish. Call people monkeys if you wish. When you do both, I can only
shake my head in disgust and add you to my twit list with the other
acephallic coprophages.

*PLONK*

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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[John Bailo]

chrisv wrote:
Linønut wrote:
The Ghost In The Machine poked his little head through the XP firewall and said:
Pedant Point: Monkees.
(Presumably they were a parody of the Fab Four: the Beatles.
They had their moments, humorwise.  I'm not sure they were
all that hot as a singing group qua singing group.)
They had a couple o' nice tunes.
For sure.  Everyone (of that age) should have a Monkees Greatest Hits
CD...
The movie /Head/ is one of the funniest 60s movies ever.
You must see it at least once, it definitely shows the real intelligence 
of Mike Nesmith and Peter Tork.

http://terryxart.com/Headpg1.htm

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Re: Why is Ryan Lankford attempting to obscure the alleged FBI presence on usenet?

[Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior]

On 3 May 2005 01:31:49 -0700, "Linda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
>Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior wrote:
>> On Mon, 02 May 2005 11:33:59 -0700, John Bailo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> >> To the participants in comp.os.linux.advocacy:
>> >>
>> >> I was watching a TV documentary about monkeys and
>> >> how they behave in captivity, and it occurred to me
>> >> that this newsgroup (comp.os.linux.advocacy), more than
>> >> the others that I sometimes read, is just like a monkey cage
>> >> populated by chimpanzees. You're always trying to gain
>> >
>> >You're like that guy in the beer commercial, where the monkey takes
>his
>> >beer and then the guy gets into the cage, and the monkey taunts him.
>>
>> At least you're not spewing racist crap like Linda Gore, who refers
>to
>> her enemies as "spooks."
>
>Huh?
>
>"Spooks" are cyberstalkers/trolls who have claimed their
>trolling/cyberstalking of posters on usenet is compliments of the FBI.
>
>Why are you trying to obscure the fact that some usenet trolls have
>claimed their criminal harassment of posters is compliments of the FBI,
> Ryan Lankford?

Do you believe everything you read on the Internet?  Because if so, I
have a mutually beneficial business matter that requires the sincerest
confidence with a guy from Nigeria.



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Re: Why is Ryan Lankford attempting to obscure the alleged FBI presence on usenet?

[Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior]

On 3 May 2005 06:54:37 -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>False. Spook means spy.

"Spook" is a disparaging term for a black person.  If you don't
believe it, go to the nearest Nation of Islam temple and use the term
on the first African-American gentleman you come across.  Let us know
how it works for you.



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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[Harry]

the Monkees will or are doomed to obscurity,and they might prefer it
that way.One,Mike Nesmith,could play his instrument ok.He had a solo
hit with First National Band-"JoAnn"& he made a few feature films.They
were a pretty pale tv imitation of yeah The Beatles,who made 2 movies
in addition to being the best pop group in the history of the
world(still are the best).

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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[DrSquare]

On 2005-05-04, Linønut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The Ghost In The Machine poked his little head through the XP firewall and 
> said:
>
>> Pedant Point: Monkees.
>>
>> (Presumably they were a parody of the Fab Four: the Beatles.
>> They had their moments, humorwise.  I'm not sure they were
>> all that hot as a singing group qua singing group.)
>
> They had a couple o' nice tunes.
>

Name one good Monkees tune.  This should be good for a laff.

They were pure invention, and none of them could play a note.
Infact they were pure shit.

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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[Jim]

chrisv wrote:
Linønut wrote:

The Ghost In The Machine poked his little head through the XP firewall and said:

Pedant Point: Monkees.
(Presumably they were a parody of the Fab Four: the Beatles.
They had their moments, humorwise.  I'm not sure they were
all that hot as a singing group qua singing group.)
They had a couple o' nice tunes.

For sure.  Everyone (of that age) should have a Monkees Greatest Hits
CD...
got a '45 of "Daydream Believer" somewhere...
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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[chrisv]

Linønut wrote:

>The Ghost In The Machine poked his little head through the XP firewall and 
>said:
>
>> Pedant Point: Monkees.
>>
>> (Presumably they were a parody of the Fab Four: the Beatles.
>> They had their moments, humorwise.  I'm not sure they were
>> all that hot as a singing group qua singing group.)
>
>They had a couple o' nice tunes.

For sure.  Everyone (of that age) should have a Monkees Greatest Hits
CD...

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[Don Parris]

When I joined this list, I did not realize it was carrying a newsgroup.  I
have never received so much spam as I have since being on this list.  Unless
this can be changed, you'll find me on the FSF members' forum.  This is
ridiculous.

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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[Linønut]

The Ghost In The Machine poked his little head through the XP firewall and said:

> Pedant Point: Monkees.
>
> (Presumably they were a parody of the Fab Four: the Beatles.
> They had their moments, humorwise.  I'm not sure they were
> all that hot as a singing group qua singing group.)

They had a couple o' nice tunes.

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Re: I wrote a C tutorial

[Siward de Groot]

On Tuesday 03 May 2005 01:31, John Hasler wrote:
| Someone who Jonathan Bartlett failed to identify wrote:
| > Specifically: clause that says that it can be distributed under any later
| > version of a license with same name if that is published by FSF.
| >
| >From the GFDL:
|
|   Each version of the License is given a distinguishing version number.
|   If  the Document specifies that
| a particular numbered version of this License "or any later version"
| applies to it, 
| you have the option of following the terms and conditions
| either of that specified version or of any later version
| that has been published (not as a draft) by the FSF.
|   If the Document does not specify a version number of this License,
| you may choose any version ever published.
|
| Notice the "if"s.  If you specify a particular version number that is the
| only one that applies.  This section is not as clear as it could be, but it
| does not require that you accept future versions of the GFDL.

Yeah, it looks like it does allow that.
I read the whole licence again before posting, but overlooked it.
Thanks for pointing it out.

(I do not endorse the GFDL.)
Me neither,
  because i prefer human-readable to legalese,
  and it seems it could grant more rights than it already does,
But if the authors provide their software and docs to me for free,
  then they're entitled to do that their way, as far as i'm concerned.

have fun !

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Re: I wrote a C tutorial

[Siward de Groot]

On Monday 02 May 2005 16:29, Jonathan Bartlett wrote:
|
|  > Descriptions and prototypes of these functions
|  >  have been taken from info libc ;
|  >Descriptions have been (heavily) edited,
|  >  Prototypes have been included nearly unaltered.
|
| If you don't want to use the GNU license, I suggest the following:
|   * delete the chapter
|   * copy the prototypes
|   * describe it entirely in your own words, using the libc manual for
| reference only, not for wording

OK. if i can use the prototypes literally, then i don't have a problem,
  just a bit of work.
I'll lay text of that chapter next to text of info,
   and replace anything i copied verbatim.
It'll still be a bit similar to info libc,
   because one of goals is to accustom readers to use that,
   but i can do that in my own words too.

| The issue with proprietary licenses is that they REMOVE rights while the
| GFDL and GPL GRANT additional rights.

|  > Specifically: clause that says that
|  >  it can be distributed under any later version of
|  >a license with same name if that is published by FSF.
|  >In effect, this transfers copyright of my manual to FSF,
|
| Incorrect.  You still remain copyright, and can re-license the part of
| the material that is your own under any license you wish.
I'm not saying that FSF is as proprietary as microsoft,
  for practical purposes, FSF is quite similar to freedom.
Technically however, if FSF decided that in a newer version of licence
   some type of invariant section in my work would be allowed to be varied,
   then they could, and this would effectively limit my copyright,
   that's what i mean with 'proprietary' here,
   as part of my copyright effectively becomes FSF's property.
   (not a problem for me, my work doesnt have invariant sections).
I got a reply from John Hasler in which he says that i can
   specify a licence-version,
   and then this 'or any later version' clause doesn't apply ;
   is that true ?
   would i need to state explicitly which clause overrides which other ?
   (i just ask this out of curiosity, i'll use my naive licence for my work,
at least until i find it too naive to prevent abuse).

|  >  (Is 'obligation to give FSF carte blanche'
|  >your interpretation of 'free licence' ?)
|  >Why would anybody ever want to include a clause like that ?
|
| Future compatibility.
Hm? You just claimed that my ability to relicence my work
   was sufficient for showing that i still had same copyright ;
Do GNU folks consider FSF to be (legal) part of their organization ? 
In that case they'lld be giving themselves carte blanche,
  which would make this clause a lot more understandable.

| This is incorrect.  INFORMATION cannot be copyrighted.  If you read
| through the libc documentation, the information you grasp from there is
| not copyrighted.  The presentation of the information is.  To the extent
| that there is only one way of communicating certain information (for
| example, C interface definitions), copyright does not apply.
AHA! I didn't know that, thanks for telling.
It wasn't clear to me from text of GFDL either,
  maybe (wishlist) add a note about it ?
Is this true for every country in the world ?

| You are certainly free to learn from the libc manuals and then retell
| the same information in your own way.  What is not permitted is verbatim
| copying of GNU's creative work.
Yeah, well, i thought that creating and documenting the compiler etc
  was the creative work.
If it's just the arbitrary parts of the presentation,
  then it's a lot freeer than i thought.

Thanks for your reply.
It has shown me a good way to handle my problem.

Long live free software. :-)

Siward




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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[Harry]

they were bad enough,and safe enough for prime time tv.

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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[The Ghost In The Machine]

In comp.os.linux.advocacy, Edwin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 wrote
on 3 May 2005 12:26:22 -0700
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> Television is for monkeys.
>
> The Monkeys haven't been on television for years...
>

Pedant Point: Monkees.

(Presumably they were a parody of the Fab Four: the Beatles.
They had their moments, humorwise.  I'm not sure they were
all that hot as a singing group qua singing group.)

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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[Alfred M. Szmidt]

   At least you're not spewing racist crap like Linda Gore, who refers
   to her enemies as "spooks."

There is nothing racist about calling "enemies" for spooks.

But can we keep the "discussion" friendly?  Such hostily does not make
our community fun you know...


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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[Edwin]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Television is for monkeys.

The Monkeys haven't been on television for years...

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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[chrisv]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Television is for monkeys.

*plonk*

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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[yarmfelder]

Are you spitting at me, monkey?

Stop jumping up and down while I am talking to you!

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Re: you're like monkeys in a cage

[yarmfelder]

Television is for monkeys.

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Re: Why is Ryan Lankford attempting to obscure the alleged FBI presence on usenet?

[DrSquare]

On 2005-05-03, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> False. Spook means spy.
>

yeah, they got it wrong KOON means nigger, not spook.  when will these black
bastards get a brain?

BTW I am not racist in any shape or form, and I know many niggers. For
example I speak very often to Joshua the boot boy, when he is cleaning
my shoes.

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Re: Why is Ryan Lankford attempting to obscure the alleged FBI presence on usenet?

[bluemoon]

Linda wrote:
Ryan Lankford, Libertarian Warrior wrote:
On Mon, 02 May 2005 11:33:59 -0700, John Bailo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
To the participants in comp.os.linux.advocacy:
I was watching a TV documentary about monkeys and
how they behave in captivity, and it occurred to me
that this newsgroup (comp.os.linux.advocacy), more than
the others that I sometimes read, is just like a monkey cage
populated by chimpanzees. You're always trying to gain
You're like that guy in the beer commercial, where the monkey takes
his
beer and then the guy gets into the cage, and the monkey taunts him.
At least you're not spewing racist crap like Linda Gore, who refers
to
her enemies as "spooks."

Huh?
"Spooks" are cyberstalkers/trolls who have claimed their
trolling/cyberstalking of posters on usenet is compliments of the FBI.
Why are you trying to obscure the fact that some usenet trolls have
claimed their criminal harassment of posters is compliments of the FBI,
 Ryan Lankford?
Where I come from, and in most of the US, spooks is an incendiary term 
for negro.  You'd think you'd be more sensitive.
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Re: Why is Ryan Lankford attempting to obscure the alleged FBI presence on usenet?

[yarmfelder]

False. Spook means spy.

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