Re: Appropriate List for GPL Discussions?
Alfred M. Szmidt wrote: >Is this the appropriate list for general GPL discussions? > > Sure. Are you guys aware of the dispute over some of the code in the former Lycoris distro, namely Iris, and other Desktop LX packages? I am attempting to get some input while I am awaiting further information on this issue. I wrote two articles previously about this: http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/46680/index.html http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/46843/index.html Essentially, by admission, Mandriva has not made the Iris code available, due to the fact that the code is sitting on a computer in storage. According to GPLv2, section 4, a user's right to "... copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is void, and will automatically terminate your rights under this License." Some are charging that Lycoris never made source code available - not only for Iris, but for a number of other packages either. I understand that since Mandriva purchased Lycoris, or perhaps more accurately, some of Lycoris' assets, they have inherited Lycoris' legal obligations. Whether they bought the company or a limited set of assets seems to be up for dispute. Whether and how that affects the outcome is beyond me. Also, Mandriva is not currently distributing actual code from the Lycoris Desktop LX, but rather a re-implentation of that code (according to them). The FSF is not commenting, and GPL-Violation.org is starting to look into it as well. It seems a fairly complicated mess, and will likely be very difficult to enforce at this stage of the game. I have always held Mandrake/Mandriva in high regard, and am a strong supporter of the GPL. It is difficult to imagine that Mandriva has inherited a potentially serious legal headache. I wonder, to what extent is Mandriva really liable, especially if they have in fact inherited Lycoris' failure to comply with the GPL? While I think the community is largely very forgiving, what is the effect of the auto-termination clause? How should the community view this? Mandriva has promised to make the source code available as soon as they can physically access them (the code is on computers in the US, while the owner is in France). That, by itself doesn't void the auto-termination clause, though. One might be fairly lenient for another two or three months, but it would seem they are still on shaky legal ground if they attempt to distribute Iris. But what about the other GPL'ed packages? For instance, Bash and NCurses are among the programs that Lycoris allegedly failed to include sources for. I doubt Mandriva could be held responsible for that if they have been making the sources to these programs available themselves. However, if they have inherited Lycoris' legal obligations, then what? I hope my post is not too incoherent. I mainly wanted to get some input from folks who may be more experienced than myself with issues like this. Is it really a serious issue, or a "tempest in a teapot"? I appreciate your input. Regards, Don -- DC Parris The Freely Project (USA) www.thefreelyproject.org www.thefreelyproject.us ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: Appropriate List for GPL Discussions?
"D.C. Parris" wrote: > > Is this the appropriate list for general GPL discussions? You are quite welcome. What's the grief? regards, alexander. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: Appropriate List for GPL Discussions?
Is this the appropriate list for general GPL discussions? Sure. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
NYC LOCAL: Thursday 19 January 2006 UNIGROUP: Ross E. Brunson conducts OpenSUSE GNU/Linux Field Trip to Novell
From: Unigroup_of_NY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-Original-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: UNIGROUP 19-JAN-2006 (Thu): OpenSUSE Linux Field Trip to Novell Unigroup's OpenSUSE Field Trip to Novell is THIS Thursday! RSVP is Required... UNIGROUP OF NEW YORK - UNIX USERS GROUP - JANUARY 2006 ANNOUNCEMENTS 1. UNIGROUP'S JANUARY 2006 GENERAL MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT When: THURSDAY, January 19th, 2006(3rd Thursday) Where: ** FIELD TRIP to Novell ** Novell NYC Office 1177 Sixth Avenue, 35th Floor (between 45th & 46th streets) Midtown, New York City ** RSVP is Mandatory! ** Time: 6:15 PM - 6:25 PM Registration 6:25 PM - 6:45 PM Ask the Wizard, Questions, Answers and Current Events 6:45 PM - 7:00 PM Unigroup Business and Announcements 7:00 PM - 9:30 PM Main Presentation -- Topic: OpenSuSE Linux -- Speaker: Ross E. Brunson, Linux Solutions Specialist, Novell, Inc. INTRODUCTION: - Happy New Year to all! As previously discussed and announced, we pleased to say that our Field Trip to Novell, to learn about OpenSuSE Linux, is finally happening this month... in fact, this week! (Sorry for the short notice, on this holiday shortened week.) Based on our speaker's bio (see below), this should be an interesting meeting! Our speaker has a pile of credentials including: author, speaker and cross-platform trainer. --- SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS: - To REGISTER for this event, please RSVP by using the Unigroup Registration Page: http://www.unigroup.org/unigroup-rsvp.html This will allow us to automate the registration process. (Registration will also add you to our mailing list.) Please avoid emailed RSVPs, if at all possible. Please continue to check the Unigroup web site and meeting page, for any last minute updates concerning this meeting. If you registered for this meeting, please check your email for any last minute announcements as the meeting approaches. Also make sure any anti-spam white-lists are updated to _ALLOW_ Unigroup traffic! Please try to RSVP as soon as possible. RSVP IS MANDATORY for this location. --- MAIN PRESENTATION OUTLINE: -- OpenSuSE Linux (stay tuned for more details) --- Web Resources: -- Novell SuSE Linux http://www.suse.com OpenSUSE Linux http://www.opensuse.com --- Speaker Biography: -- Ross Brunson: Linux Solutions Specialist with Novell, Inc. CNI, NCLP, LPIC1, SCSA, LCI, LCA, Inet+, Linux+, CCNA, MCSA, MCP, MCP+I, MCSE4 Ross is currently a Linux Solutions Specialist for Novell Inc.'s North East Division based in Albany NY. He serves on the Advisory Council for the Linux Professional Institute and has authored three books, including the best-selling LPIC Level 1 Exam Cram. He began his IT career in the US Army in the early 1980's working with battlefield simulation systems running on Unix platforms, and quickly graduated to working with databases and network operating systems. Ross began his formal training and consulting career in the late 80's teaching Unix and NT Integration classes to government and industry customers both in education centers and onsite. He quickly became the technical editor and eventually the author for his courses, soon achieving the organization's second highest scores for an instructor. After a number of years conducting TCP/IP, UNIX, Linux and Networking courses for Learning Tree, Mastering Computers of Scottsdale and other training companies, he took a courseware development and instructor position with Computer Associates developing and delivering Windows 2000 and Linux courses for delivery to many USA and International companies. Ross then took a position with Thomson Learning's SAIR Linux certification and courseware division as the Director of Courseware Development and Instruction. He built an excellent instructor force spanning 13 countries and 110 instructors in little over a year. Ross and his team conducted certification
Appropriate List for GPL Discussions?
Is this the appropriate list for general GPL discussions? I used to be subscribed to a listserv, but can no longer find the reference to it. I had unsubscribed due to the volume of spam on the list. I thought it was based on this or another list. If there is another list, I appreciate you pointing me in the right direction. Many thanks, Don ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
