Re: From the Best Buy et. al. case

2010-02-24 Thread RJack

Hyman Rosen wrote:

On 2/24/2010 5:16 PM, RJack wrote:



It doesn't mean anything until a court agrees.


Huh? "IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING UNTIL A COURT AGREES" ???

ROFL

Some Free Softies insist that a requirement of a court ruling is
completely unnecessary and that plaintiffs' voluntary dismissals
are complete vindication and "victories" over the defendants.

This is in contrast to some GPL "trolls" whom claim only a court
review of the GPL will mean anything.

If there's anything I love, it's watching a Free Softy take both
sides of an issue and then argue vociferously with himself.

ROFL


By the way, I was wondering why Best Buy was being sued. It turns out
 that the Insignia brand is owned by them, and an Insignia Blu-ray 
player comes with BusyBox.


The Insignia Blue Ray Player was manufactured by the Funai Corp.
out of Osaka, Japan. Funai clones were marketed under Phillips,
Maganavox, Sylvania and other brand names.


Sincerely,
RJack :)
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Re: From the Best Buy et. al. case

2010-02-24 Thread Hyman Rosen

On 2/24/2010 5:16 PM, RJack wrote:

Defendants intend to show...


As usual in lawsuits, both plaintiffs and defendants make
maximal claims. That's normal lawyering. It doesn't mean
anything until a court agrees.

By the way, I was wondering why Best Buy was being sued.
It turns out that the Insignia brand is owned by them,
and an Insignia Blu-ray player comes with BusyBox.
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From the Best Buy et. al. case

2010-02-24 Thread RJack


From the  Erik Andersen vs. Best Buy et. al. Scheduling
Order entered Feb. 22, 2010 appearing on PACER as case no. 1:09-cv-10155-SAS




"Shira A. Scheindlin U.S.D.J.
...

2. A concise statement of the issues as they then appear;

Pending results of Defendants' investigations, Defendants
intend to show that the Plaintiff's have no damages, that
the Defendants did nothing actionable under copyright law, that
any alleged copying was not willful, that Plaintiffs are not
the proper parties, that the copyright held by Mr. Andersen
is not applicable, and that, since being put on notice of
the purported requirements of the general public license,
Defendants have endeavored to come into compliance with what
can only be described as a 'moving target'."



Sincerely,
RJack :)
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Re: Jacobsen v. Katzer settled

2010-02-24 Thread Hyman Rosen

the CAFC error


Crank vs. court. There is no "error" in the CAFC ruling
unless and until another court says so.

> a waste of SCOTUS time

The decision would need to be appealed to them, and since
the case is settled, that won't happen. Not that they would
grant cert in something like this anyway.
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Re: Jacobsen v. Katzer settled

2010-02-24 Thread Alexander Terekhov

David Kastrup wrote:
> 
> Alexander Terekhov  writes:
> 
> > David Kastrup wrote:
> >>
> >> John Hasler  writes:
> >>
> >> > RJack writes:
> >> >> Hyman will just ignore the Supreme Court decision as if it didn't
> >> >> exist and continue to quote the Federal Circuit's erroneous finding.
> >> >
> >> > If the Federal Circuit's finding is in conflict with Supreme Court
> >> > precedents why has it not been appealed thereto?
> >>
> >> This likely should be considered addressed comprehensively with the
> >> "scared them out of the water.  LOL LOL LOL" babble.
> >
> > The appeal to CAFC was an interlocutory appeal (no final judgement) from
> > an order regarding PI. For the purposes of granting or not granting PI,
> > the CAFC error regarding confusion of conditions precedent v. scope
> > restrictions v. covenants was made moot by later Winter v. NRDC decision
> > of SCOTUS. Did you notice that judge White refused to grant the PI on
> > remand as well? Correcting an utterly obvious error by a district judge
> > from New Jersey sitting by designation on CAFC panel in a moot PI case
> > would be quite a waste of SCOTUS time, don't you think so silly dak?
> 
> Not interested in trying to figure out what you believe you are on this
> time.  After a few dozen of rotten fish from the same barrel, there's
> not much incentive in dissecting another one.

You're incapable of dissecting anything that doesn't align with your GNU
cult religion, silly dak.

Only utter GNU retards like you could not dissect simple facts akin to
"IP licenses are contracts" because the GNU cult says that "licenses are
not contracts".

regards,
alexander.

P.S. "I'm insufficiently motivated to go set up a GNU/Linux system 
so that I can do the builds."

Hyman Rosen  The Silliest GPL 'Advocate'

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fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress."

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Re: Jacobsen v. Katzer settled

2010-02-24 Thread David Kastrup
Alexander Terekhov  writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
>> 
>> John Hasler  writes:
>> 
>> > RJack writes:
>> >> Hyman will just ignore the Supreme Court decision as if it didn't
>> >> exist and continue to quote the Federal Circuit's erroneous finding.
>> >
>> > If the Federal Circuit's finding is in conflict with Supreme Court
>> > precedents why has it not been appealed thereto?
>> 
>> This likely should be considered addressed comprehensively with the
>> "scared them out of the water.  LOL LOL LOL" babble.
>
> The appeal to CAFC was an interlocutory appeal (no final judgement) from
> an order regarding PI. For the purposes of granting or not granting PI,
> the CAFC error regarding confusion of conditions precedent v. scope
> restrictions v. covenants was made moot by later Winter v. NRDC decision
> of SCOTUS. Did you notice that judge White refused to grant the PI on
> remand as well? Correcting an utterly obvious error by a district judge
> from New Jersey sitting by designation on CAFC panel in a moot PI case
> would be quite a waste of SCOTUS time, don't you think so silly dak?

Not interested in trying to figure out what you believe you are on this
time.  After a few dozen of rotten fish from the same barrel, there's
not much incentive in dissecting another one.

-- 
David Kastrup
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Re: Jacobsen v. Katzer settled

2010-02-24 Thread Alexander Terekhov

David Kastrup wrote:
> 
> John Hasler  writes:
> 
> > RJack writes:
> >> Hyman will just ignore the Supreme Court decision as if it didn't
> >> exist and continue to quote the Federal Circuit's erroneous finding.
> >
> > If the Federal Circuit's finding is in conflict with Supreme Court
> > precedents why has it not been appealed thereto?
> 
> This likely should be considered addressed comprehensively with the
> "scared them out of the water.  LOL LOL LOL" babble.

The appeal to CAFC was an interlocutory appeal (no final judgement) from
an order regarding PI. For the purposes of granting or not granting PI,
the CAFC error regarding confusion of conditions precedent v. scope
restrictions v. covenants was made moot by later Winter v. NRDC decision
of SCOTUS. Did you notice that judge White refused to grant the PI on
remand as well? Correcting an utterly obvious error by a district judge
from New Jersey sitting by designation on CAFC panel in a moot PI case
would be quite a waste of SCOTUS time, don't you think so silly dak?

regards,
alexander.

P.S. "I'm insufficiently motivated to go set up a GNU/Linux system 
so that I can do the builds."

Hyman Rosen  The Silliest GPL 'Advocate'

P.P.S. "Of course correlation implies causation! Without this 
fundamental principle, no science would ever make any progress."

Hyman Rosen  The Silliest GPL 'Advocate'

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