Re: The Metro UI-Why it sucks
On 12/5/2013 4:04 AM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: RedBlade7 wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:03:18 -0700, GreyCloud wrote: On 12/4/2013 6:53 PM, RedBlade7 wrote: M$ should have shifted their focus to the M$-dependent business sector (e.g. health care). You should go into a modern nursing home and watch them as they use touch screens mounted on the walls. No keyboards, as they don't have time. A touch screen is perfect for that kind of health care system and most doctors approve of this approach. Hence an even greater need for the hand-cleansing protocol . I was referring to billing, insurance, and the like. Also kiosks. But Greycloud is not quite correct -- every setup of seen in the local hospitals has come with keyboards. I haven't even seen any tablets there yet. That depends on the hospital administration. This may give you an idea what the doctors want: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5RqObFBw3HM ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: The Metro UI-Why it sucks
On 12/5/2013 1:19 AM, RedBlade7 wrote: On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 23:07:14 -0700, GreyCloud wrote: On 12/4/2013 10:16 PM, RedBlade7 wrote: On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:03:18 -0700, GreyCloud wrote: On 12/4/2013 6:53 PM, RedBlade7 wrote: On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:54:24 -0800, keltonkostis wrote: the Metro UI is so weird it is a nightmare to support, and it overall bombs for desktop use. It was designed for tablets and phones, but my problem is that if they wanted a tablet or phone interface they could have put it on one of those devices and spared the desktop market of the dumbed-down GUI by making a different version with a different GUI. Also, try to visualize how horrible some of these common desktop applications would look if Metroified- M$ should have shifted their focus to the M$-dependent business sector (e.g. health care). Instead M$ went after the "Windows 9x Kids" who, after growing up, managed to escape their wrath by using Mac and Linux (including embedded versions and Android) and have no reason to return to the Illegal Operations, Security Updates, and Service Packs of their childhood. M$ will never "win" unless they shift their focus to the business sector, which M$ continually frustrates as they continue wasting time/money on the home user. You should go into a modern nursing home and watch them as they use touch screens mounted on the walls. No keyboards, as they don't have time. A touch screen is perfect for that kind of health care system and most doctors approve of this approach. I was referring to billing, insurance, and the like. But the touchscreen in the nursing home or doctors office is just the headwaters of the healthcare system... these are data synchronized systems where billing and insurance gets its impetus. After that they can use whatever works best. I've seen one iPad in one doctors office, and the rest were laptops with touchscreens. That is just the way they want it, as I have observed. I highly doubt that transactions between doctors and insurance companies and printing invoices for clients make use of iPads or touch-screen mobile devices. No, they don't in that fashion, but all of the portable stuff is hooked up to their central server which does do the billing... and most of the billing is charged to Medicare. But the front end devices are mobile and that is where the data is collected and forwarded to the server. So all mobile devices are finding more uses than before. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: The Metro UI-Why it sucks
On 12/4/2013 6:53 PM, RedBlade7 wrote: On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:54:24 -0800, keltonkostis wrote: the Metro UI is so weird it is a nightmare to support, and it overall bombs for desktop use. It was designed for tablets and phones, but my problem is that if they wanted a tablet or phone interface they could have put it on one of those devices and spared the desktop market of the dumbed-down GUI by making a different version with a different GUI. Also, try to visualize how horrible some of these common desktop applications would look if Metroified- M$ should have shifted their focus to the M$-dependent business sector (e.g. health care). Instead M$ went after the "Windows 9x Kids" who, after growing up, managed to escape their wrath by using Mac and Linux (including embedded versions and Android) and have no reason to return to the Illegal Operations, Security Updates, and Service Packs of their childhood. M$ will never "win" unless they shift their focus to the business sector, which M$ continually frustrates as they continue wasting time/money on the home user. You should go into a modern nursing home and watch them as they use touch screens mounted on the walls. No keyboards, as they don't have time. A touch screen is perfect for that kind of health care system and most doctors approve of this approach. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: The Metro UI-Why it sucks
On 12/4/2013 10:16 PM, RedBlade7 wrote: On Wed, 04 Dec 2013 22:03:18 -0700, GreyCloud wrote: On 12/4/2013 6:53 PM, RedBlade7 wrote: On Tue, 03 Dec 2013 19:54:24 -0800, keltonkostis wrote: the Metro UI is so weird it is a nightmare to support, and it overall bombs for desktop use. It was designed for tablets and phones, but my problem is that if they wanted a tablet or phone interface they could have put it on one of those devices and spared the desktop market of the dumbed-down GUI by making a different version with a different GUI. Also, try to visualize how horrible some of these common desktop applications would look if Metroified- M$ should have shifted their focus to the M$-dependent business sector (e.g. health care). Instead M$ went after the "Windows 9x Kids" who, after growing up, managed to escape their wrath by using Mac and Linux (including embedded versions and Android) and have no reason to return to the Illegal Operations, Security Updates, and Service Packs of their childhood. M$ will never "win" unless they shift their focus to the business sector, which M$ continually frustrates as they continue wasting time/money on the home user. You should go into a modern nursing home and watch them as they use touch screens mounted on the walls. No keyboards, as they don't have time. A touch screen is perfect for that kind of health care system and most doctors approve of this approach. I was referring to billing, insurance, and the like. But the touchscreen in the nursing home or doctors office is just the headwaters of the healthcare system... these are data synchronized systems where billing and insurance gets its impetus. After that they can use whatever works best. I've seen one iPad in one doctors office, and the rest were laptops with touchscreens. That is just the way they want it, as I have observed. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: Yet Another Tech Industry Whore-Out: Mozilla
On 7/13/2013 9:28 PM, flatfish+++ wrote: On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 20:15:24 -0700, Snit wrote: On 7/13/13 7:23 PM, in article krt23v$apv$1...@dont-email.me, "Red Blade" wrote: On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 18:37:08 -0700, Snit wrote: On 7/13/13 6:17 PM, in article krsu84$sef$1...@dont-email.me, "Red Blade" wrote: Mozilla has abandoned its principles of privacy and security and open- source by hiding the option to customize Javascript. Unless you're willing to get into about:config, now you're victim of right-click blocking, increasingly clever pop-up ads, malicious tracking, and scripted malware. Firefox is no more secure than M$IE or NSA-Chrome now. Another tech industry whore-out falls like a domino, this time a "non-"profit whore-out. Thanks a lot, guys. Or you can install Developer Tools or, I am sure, any one of the dozen extensions that will give you the functionality back if you want it in easy access. With the way the tech industry is going, it's only a matter of time before all ideals of integrity, privacy rights, and free and open source software are completely gone. (Can less-popular addons like Adblock True and Adblock Edge keep up with rolling release?) I think open source will stick around... but the herd-like group of open source "advocates" (a minority in the open source world) will continue to be proved wrong. Stallman and his followers will continue to insist that the restrictions they like (the control they want) is what makes thing most free and some will even say it has some sort of spiritual significance. It is a religion to them. Through the years, I warned people on Usenet and IRC (especially Freenode) about NSA code in Linux and they told me "Living Standard" was a MAFIAA coup waiting to happen. They said "You're crazy", "it's impossible", "You're paranoid", "Don't use the Internet at all!", etc. Now look what their gullibility and blind trust of government spooks and multinational corporations got us! Corporations will gain more and more power - and governments will bow down to them more and more. Corporation = Government Do you honestly believe your vote counts as much as IBM's or Microsoft's or MSNBC's or. ? The USA is NOT a democracy. It's a corporate oligarchy. And there is even a shorter word for that... fascism. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: NYC LOCAL: Saturday 7 July 2012: Wikipedia and Free Culture Gathering on Governors Island
On 7/7/2012 7:25 AM, Foster wrote: On 7 Jul 2012 02:55:52 -0400, secret...@lxny.org wrote: Wikipedia:Wiki World's Fair The event will combine a wiki-picnic and civic celebration in the southern section of the Parade Ground, sharing an area with the FIGMENT participatory art festival's arcade-themed artist-designed minigolf course, sculpture garden, and treehouse. The celebration will be led by Wikimedians and Free Culture Alliance NYC, with DIY fair pavilions (bamboo poles to be provided!) for numerous represented Wikiverse and Free Culture initiatives. Jay Sulzberger Corresponding Secretary LXNY LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization. http://www.lxny.org A tree house? Build your own pavilion? That's sure to reel the spectators in.. This has to be some kind of a joke? BTW it's going to be close to 100 degrees out today. http://www.weather.com/weather/today/New+York+NY+10001:4:US Are you guys going to make your own suntan lotion as well? Bw! Free Culture of Alliance NYC??? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Sounds like they squashed grapes with their feet hoping to make some wine... only they didn't wash their feet. :D Add some toejam and the wine can be called Pinot Toe. :D ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: Tuesday 5 June 2012 Library of Congress: Argument before the Register of Copyrights For and Against the Right of Private Ownership of a Computer
On 6/4/2012 1:56 PM, Foster wrote: On 4 Jun 2012 15:42:33 -0400, secret...@lxny.org wrote: In Washington DC on Tuesday 5 June 2012 at 1:30 pm in the Jefferson Building, there will be a discussion of Proposed Exemption 4 to the "Prohibition on Circumvention of Copyright Protection Systems for Access Control Technologies" which prohibition is a part of the Digital Millennium Copyright Act. On the panel, our side is strong. In addition to Brett Wynkoop and Jay Sulzberger of New Yorkers for Fair Use, we've got Aaron Williamson, of the Software Freedom Law Center, and Marcia Hoffman, of the Electronic Frontier Foundation. My advice to the unwashed Linux minions is to stay home. Seeing you "neck bearded" freetards in person will be too much of a shock for congress and it certainly will not help your cause any. Hehehe ... fair use? What about the consumers? Or the developers for that matter? All the developers I've seen always want some kind of remuneration, unless all the new beginning developers wants is recognition. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: MICROSOFT ALERT!
Torre Starnes wrote: > On Tue, 6 Dec 2011 16:40:48 -0800 (PST), Mark S Bilk wrote: > >> For more than ten years, there's been a huge flood of lying >> anti-Linux propaganda posts sent to COLA, about 500,000 of >> them. Almost all have been posted via anonymous false >> identities, like "Lt Cmdr. Gaston J. Feeblebunny". > > Don't you have some thermite to analyze, Mark S. Bilk? > > For those that may not know, Mark S. Bilk is a truther who believes > the 9-11 attacks were an inside job. > Let's just say the boy is not playing with a full kit of marbles. You don't have any marbles, numb nuts. ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: NYC LOCAL: Wednesday 14 June 2006 AAFE and CFSG Youth Technology Showcase
flatfish+++ wrote: Now that is really kool! Kudos to the people donating their time. Are you reading this William Poaster, Roy Culley and Mark Kent? This is what advocacy is all about. (top posted on purpose).. On Mon, 12 Jun 2006 14:52:22 -0400, secretary wrote: From: Selso DaSilva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [CFSG-forum] Fwd: AAFE and CFSG youth technology show case Come join us Wednesday, June 14th 2006, 4:30 pm - 6:30 pm, at the AAFE Community Technology Center on 111 Norfolk St ( between Delancey and Rivington), for the AAFE Youth Technology showcase. The Kids will be showing off what they have learned in our PC Garage Program ( http://cfsg.org/programs/pcgaafe.html ) and, we will also be donating some GNU/Linux computer systems featuring the GCompris ( http://gcompris.net/-en- ) suite of educational games. Come and see Free Software at its best, providing quality educational tools for young people.. Selso DaSilva Community Free Software Group ___ CFSG-forum mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://cfsg.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cfsg-forum Distributed poC TINC: Jay Sulzberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Corresponding Secretary LXNY LXNY is New York's Free Computing Organization. http://www.lxny.org That's usually what the Linux group I used to attend to had done. They also got involved by doing Linux install fests at the mall. -- Where are we going? And why am I in this handbasket? ___ gnu-misc-discuss mailing list gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: Linus CHARGING $5,000 to use Linux name!!!!!
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Karen Hill wrote: > : Linus is now doing the ol' switchero. It is all over the news, if > you > : want to use his trademark, Linux, you must pay 5,000 dollars! > Letters > : have been sent to 90 companies in Australia already demanding the 5 > : grand. Just like all the others have warned, Linux was only free > until > : it got enough suckers to use it. Hopefully, now the Linux advocates > : can see that they were bamboozeled by a classic business move, of > : giving away a product for free (linux), until it got good enough to > : compete with the other players. Once enough people are on the > product > : and can't easily switch, JACK UP THE PRICES, ala RHT. > : > : First Redhat decided to cash in and now Linus Torvalds. The free > : software movement is a scam. It was from the beginning when Stallman > : was charging for the media during the time when the internet was not > so > : popular. > > that's cause linus is a greedy lintard. And you don't think that the multi-billionaire Bill Gates isn't eh?? ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
