Re: IP Newsflash
Michael Deutschmann wrote: > > On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: > > No. [the term "intellectual property" is] a fake blanket designed to > > induce people into treating patents, copyright and trademarks, > > instinctively, as one and the same thing. > > Correction: It's a fake blanket designed to induce people into treating > patents, copyright, trademarks AND PHYSICAL PROPERTY, instinctively, as > one and the same thing. "3.1 Intellectual Property Whatsoever then he removes out of the state that nature hath provided, and left it in, he hath mixed his labor with, and joined to it something that is his own, and thereby makes it his property. -- John Locke. Two Treatises on Government. 1764. The implicit point of view contained in this essay is a Lockean one. Producing a piece of software requires taking the state of nature, the common heritage of software tools and techniques, and using them to fashion something new. To the extent that programming involves labor and thinking is certainly labor, ask any student a piece of software is [intellectual] property. To the extent that invention requires labor, an invention is property. This state of affairs is recognized in intellectual property law, such as copyright and patent law." -- Doug Palmer, Why Not Use the GPL? Thoughts on Free and Open-Source Software. 2003. See also http://www.wipo.int/about-ip/en/overview.html. regards, alexander. ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: IP Newsflash
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: > No. [the term "intellectual property" is] a fake blanket designed to > induce people into treating patents, copyright and trademarks, > instinctively, as one and the same thing. Correction: It's a fake blanket designed to induce people into treating patents, copyright, trademarks AND PHYSICAL PROPERTY, instinctively, as one and the same thing. Also, it could sway courts, which is rather more serious. IANAL, but I've heard now and again that the Americans are incapable of passing a law to invalidate existing software patents, because their judges are apt to view it as "confiscation of property", which their constitution forbids. Michael Deutschmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: IP Newsflash
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 05:48:31 +0200, Alexander Cline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey man, I didn't make it up. Could you be constructive and suggest another blanket term for what The Man calls intellectual property? Maybe: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#IntellectualProperty> /L -- Lasse R. Nielsen - [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'Faith without judgement merely degrades the spirit divine' ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: IP Newsflash
No. It's a fake blanket designed to induce people into treating patents, copyright and trademarks, instinctively, as one and the same thing. Considering they're completely disparate monopoly rights, there's no blanket. Trying to find one only leads into confusion that plays well in the hands of those who would have monopolies on thought itself if it brought them more money and power. Rui On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 23:48 -0400, Alexander Cline wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hey man, I didn't make it up. Could you be constructive and suggest > another blanket term for what The Man calls intellectual property? -- + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: IP Newsflash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hey man, I didn't make it up. Could you be constructive and suggest another blanket term for what The Man calls intellectual property? http://alex.theclines.net/ Pubkey at http://alex.theclines.net/pubkeys.htm On Jul 31, 2005, at 17:46, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: That term is absurd and should be avoided. The artificial monopoly laws over intellectual creations do not set boundaries of property, but limited "short"-term monopolies in order to provide a temporary commercial advantage. That's monopolies. Nor properties. Rui -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkLtm48ACgkQt65ZG5ykqBL75wCeNVRYBia419ZOb+Xorkmbd/ao /nYAoI7b6abPXg5IqtqSkDI8nNUJJ8Fc =0VMw -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: IP Newsflash
That term is absurd and should be avoided. The artificial monopoly laws over intellectual creations do not set boundaries of property, but limited "short"-term monopolies in order to provide a temporary commercial advantage. That's monopolies. Nor properties. Rui On Sun, 2005-07-31 at 13:35 -0400, Alexander Cline wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > IP also stands for Intellectual Property. > > > http://alex.theclines.net/ > Pubkey at http://alex.theclines.net/pubkeys.htm > > > On Jul 31, 2005, at 04:50, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: > > > >> http://www.ipnewsflash.com > >> > > > > Is it a site about the Internet Protocol? > > Which version? > > > > Rui -- + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: IP Newsflash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 IP also stands for Intellectual Property. http://alex.theclines.net/ Pubkey at http://alex.theclines.net/pubkeys.htm On Jul 31, 2005, at 04:50, Rui Miguel Seabra wrote: http://www.ipnewsflash.com Is it a site about the Internet Protocol? Which version? Rui -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iEYEARECAAYFAkLtC9wACgkQt65ZG5ykqBKqYwCcDagA3HXqG5+w0OrWBJa3kZHK BFoAoKKY+nexE/HTUMPsR4CjvVoxNLc7 =lflE -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
Re: IP Newsflash
On Sat, 2005-07-30 at 23:02 -0700, claessen wrote: > http://www.ipnewsflash.com Is it a site about the Internet Protocol? Which version? Rui -- + No matter how much you do, you never do enough -- unknown + Whatever you do will be insignificant, | but it is very important that you do it -- Gandhi + So let's do it...? Please AVOID sending me WORD, EXCEL or POWERPOINT attachments. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
IP Newsflash
Hi, a lot of visitors have provided me with useful insight on how to improve IP Newsflash. I have not forgotten about your input and instead have worked hard to implement most of your suggestions. The completely redesigned website is now available at http://www.ipnewsflash.com Here are some of the new features: - full cross-compatibility with Firefox, Netscape, Opera and Internet Explorer - choose the content to be displayed yourself (e.g. only english press and USPTO-related caselaw and notices) - choose the content to be included in your newsletter (e.g. only caselaw of the European Patent Office and german press) - Export patent family search results to Excel, Word, or as a raw XML file - use RSS feeds in XML format on your own website or with your newsreader (press, caselaw, notices, and books) - use IP Newsflash content on your own website - submit your own stories For some of the new features you have to register (personalized website or newsletter). Please review the new website and let me know what you like and what you dislike and what should be improved. Best regards, claessen ___ Gnu-misc-discuss mailing list Gnu-misc-discuss@gnu.org http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/gnu-misc-discuss
