Re: “GNU software is distributed under the terms of [copyleft] licenses”
Hi, "Carlos O'Donell" skribis: > On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 5:03 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: >> >> On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 02:35 +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: >> > Ludovic Courtès wrote: >> > > * GNU licenses uphold user freedom >> > > >> > > The GNU Project has designed software licenses to ensure developers >> > > cannot strip off user freedom from GNU software—“copyleft” >> > > licenses. GNU software is distributed under the terms of these >> > > licenses. >> > >> > Sorry, but thatʼs simply untrue. Few GNU software packages are >> > under lax, non-copyleft licences, namely: ncurses, nana, speex. And >> > there might be a good reason for that [1]. >> >> I agree. It would say something like "We prefer to distribute under the >> terms of these licenses." Oh yes, you’re right. >> This is also partly why I would recommend trying to merge points 1 >> (freedom), 2 (uphold freedom) and 4 (beyond software freedom). That >> makes it easier to explain what compromises we do and do not make to >> uphold user freedom. > > That sounds like a good compromise. Sure, works for me! Ludo’.
Re: “GNU software is distributed under the terms of [copyleft] licenses” (was: A GNU “social contract”?)
On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 5:03 PM Mark Wielaard wrote: > > On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 02:35 +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: > > Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > > * GNU licenses uphold user freedom > > > > > > The GNU Project has designed software licenses to ensure developers > > > cannot strip off user freedom from GNU software—“copyleft” > > > licenses. GNU software is distributed under the terms of these > > > licenses. > > > > Sorry, but thatʼs simply untrue. Few GNU software packages are > > under lax, non-copyleft licences, namely: ncurses, nana, speex. And > > there might be a good reason for that [1]. > > I agree. It would say something like "We prefer to distribute under the > terms of these licenses." > > This is also partly why I would recommend trying to merge points 1 > (freedom), 2 (uphold freedom) and 4 (beyond software freedom). That > makes it easier to explain what compromises we do and do not make to > uphold user freedom. That sounds like a good compromise. Cheers, Carlos.
Re: “GNU software is distributed under the terms of [copyleft] licenses” (was: A GNU “social contract”?)
On Sat, 2019-10-26 at 02:35 +0300, Dmitry Alexandrov wrote: > Ludovic Courtès wrote: > > * GNU licenses uphold user freedom > > > > The GNU Project has designed software licenses to ensure developers > > cannot strip off user freedom from GNU software—“copyleft” > > licenses. GNU software is distributed under the terms of these > > licenses. > > Sorry, but thatʼs simply untrue. Few GNU software packages are > under lax, non-copyleft licences, namely: ncurses, nana, speex. And > there might be a good reason for that [1]. I agree. It would say something like "We prefer to distribute under the terms of these licenses." This is also partly why I would recommend trying to merge points 1 (freedom), 2 (uphold freedom) and 4 (beyond software freedom). That makes it easier to explain what compromises we do and do not make to uphold user freedom. Cheers, Mark
