Re: avoiding the bias in vocabulary
On 19/02/2020 23:26, Alexandre François Garreau wrote: > Le samedi 15 février 2020, 18:56:21 CET Daniel Pocock a écrit : > >> There are a lot of words used in various discussions today that have > >> some bias. > >> > >> For example, the word /ban/ is quite disparaging to the victim. Simply > >> using the word continues the bias. > >> > >> From a technical perspective, banning somebody from a mailing list and > >> censoring somebody on a mailing list are both achieved by clicking the > >> same button. > >> > >> Use the word ban, it leaves a lingering feeling that the volunteer may > >> have done something questionable. > >> > >> Use the word censor, it implies the organization is avoiding some > >> questions. > > > > Use the word “moderate” it implies something has gone (irrelevantly?) > too much or excessive; No two people have the same definition of too much or too little. To put it another way, each person values a different set of issues. Avoiding the issue by ridiculing the person is a disturbing trend. Making character attacks against somebody because /you/ think they respond too quickly is as bad as kicking people out when somebody else thinks they didn't respond quickly enough. The only course of action left is for people to sit in the middle and not say anything controversial, in other words, sell their souls to the gods of groupthink. > use the word “toxic” it implies you’re contaminated (it’s transitive), > from an evil you can’t see right-away. That reminds me of the woman who gives talks about humiliating people. I'm not a fan of the term toxic woman but that's the expression that comes to mind. enforcement => bullying safe space => cult community => unpaid workforce twitter storm => lynching harassment (in a free software community) => speaking truth to power Regards, Daniel -- Debian Developer https://danielpocock.com
Re: avoiding the bias in vocabulary
Le samedi 15 février 2020, 18:56:21 CET Daniel Pocock a écrit : > There are a lot of words used in various discussions today that have > some bias. > > For example, the word /ban/ is quite disparaging to the victim. Simply > using the word continues the bias. > > From a technical perspective, banning somebody from a mailing list and > censoring somebody on a mailing list are both achieved by clicking the > same button. > > Use the word ban, it leaves a lingering feeling that the volunteer may > have done something questionable. > > Use the word censor, it implies the organization is avoiding some > questions. Use the word “moderate” it implies something has gone (irrelevantly?) too much or excessive; at opposite: use the word “laxist” it implies it should repress more, use the word “toxic” it implies you’re contaminated (it’s transitive), from an evil you can’t see right-away. Use the word “emotional”, “irrational”, “(over)sensitive” it means it should stop feeling and start thinking instead (as if it was possible); Use the word “cold”, “apathic/insensible” or “uprooted / distached from realities”, it implies you should give more empathy, and understand feelings (as if it could be everything). Use the word “instable” it implies it should change less (easily), Use the word “rigid” it implies it should more; Use the word “flexible” it implies it’s good that it changes, Use the word “stable” it implies it’s bad. Use the words “populist”, “crowd”, “influencable”, it implies it’s bad that too much people are involved; Use the word “democratic”, “participative”, “consensus”, it implies that it’s good. There are countless examples: assertions should be backed with (refutable) implications, (refutable) predictions and (contestable, subjective) objectives. More to come.
Re: avoiding the bias in vocabulary
On 15/02/2020 21:30, Daniel Pocock wrote: > > > On 15/02/2020 21:11, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: >> On 2020-02-15 09:56, Daniel Pocock wrote: >>> There are a lot of words used in various discussions today that have >>> some bias. >>> >>> For example, the word /ban/ is quite disparaging to the victim. Simply >>> using the word continues the bias. >> >> Note that this word is quite central in the "Code of Conduct" proposed >> on the >> disruptive, deceptive "gnu.tools" site. >> >> There's gonna be witch hunts if these brown shirt scoundrels have their >> way. > > Using the word ban in a formal document is incredibly immature. > > It implies that this is more like a WhatsApp group than an organization > of professionals. > An extended list: ban => censor privacy policy => privacy waiver code of conduct => code of obedience contributor license agreement => unpaid employment agreement (applicable to some of the badder CLAs) permissive license => doormat license the difference between Open Source and Free Software? => white-collar modern-day slavery Can anybody think of other examples of terms that are misleading or biased? Regards, Daniel
Re: avoiding the bias in vocabulary
On 15/02/2020 21:11, Kaz Kylheku (gnu-misc-discuss) wrote: > On 2020-02-15 09:56, Daniel Pocock wrote: >> There are a lot of words used in various discussions today that have >> some bias. >> >> For example, the word /ban/ is quite disparaging to the victim. Simply >> using the word continues the bias. > > Note that this word is quite central in the "Code of Conduct" proposed > on the > disruptive, deceptive "gnu.tools" site. > > There's gonna be witch hunts if these brown shirt scoundrels have their > way. Using the word ban in a formal document is incredibly immature. It implies that this is more like a WhatsApp group than an organization of professionals. Regards, Daniel
Re: avoiding the bias in vocabulary
On 2020-02-15 09:56, Daniel Pocock wrote: There are a lot of words used in various discussions today that have some bias. For example, the word /ban/ is quite disparaging to the victim. Simply using the word continues the bias. Note that this word is quite central in the "Code of Conduct" proposed on the disruptive, deceptive "gnu.tools" site. There's gonna be witch hunts if these brown shirt scoundrels have their way.
avoiding the bias in vocabulary
There are a lot of words used in various discussions today that have some bias. For example, the word /ban/ is quite disparaging to the victim. Simply using the word continues the bias. >From a technical perspective, banning somebody from a mailing list and censoring somebody on a mailing list are both achieved by clicking the same button. Use the word ban, it leaves a lingering feeling that the volunteer may have done something questionable. Use the word censor, it implies the organization is avoiding some questions.
