Re: 2.6 Release -- SCheme

2012-01-01 Thread Donald Allen
On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:
 On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:36:28 -0500
 Mike Alexander m...@umich.edu wrote:

 Python is popular now, but will it be in 10 years?  I've seen
 lots of languages come and go.

 That's true, but I bet it will be more popular than Scheme for sure.

 Moreover, we can speculate what will happen with GTK+ in 10 years, but
 let's make GC more approachable *today*. ;)

Well said.

We do things all the time (drive cars, fly in airplanes) that have a
small, but non-zero, probability of a bad outcome. We just try to make
smart bets, on a risk/benefit basis. I think choosing Python for this
application is in that category.

/Don


 Sincerely,
 Gour


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Re: [PATCH] [WIP] Lithuanian translation update (71% complete)

2012-01-01 Thread Cristian Marchi

Thanks. Patch submitted to the 2.4 repo

Regards
Cristian

Il 31/12/2011 17:40, Aurimas Fišeras ha scritto:

Hello,
here is another translation update for the 2.4.9 release.

Current status of the translation:
2925 translated messages, 569 fuzzy translations, 606 untranslated 
messages.


Aurimas Fišeras







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Re: 2.6 Release -- SCheme

2012-01-01 Thread Ted Creedon
this talk is all well  good but meanwhile GC is inoperable on updated
distros using Guile 2.0.

I think one should bite the bullet and eliminate swig/guile.

Tedc

On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Donald Allen donaldcal...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Jan 1, 2012 at 2:39 AM, Gour g...@atmarama.net wrote:
  On Sat, 31 Dec 2011 18:36:28 -0500
  Mike Alexander m...@umich.edu wrote:
 
  Python is popular now, but will it be in 10 years?  I've seen
  lots of languages come and go.
 
  That's true, but I bet it will be more popular than Scheme for sure.
 
  Moreover, we can speculate what will happen with GTK+ in 10 years, but
  let's make GC more approachable *today*. ;)

 Well said.

 We do things all the time (drive cars, fly in airplanes) that have a
 small, but non-zero, probability of a bad outcome. We just try to make
 smart bets, on a risk/benefit basis. I think choosing Python for this
 application is in that category.

 /Don

 
  Sincerely,
  Gour
 
 
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  of his prescribed duties, nor has he any reason not to perform
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Re: 2.6 Release -- SCheme

2012-01-01 Thread John Ralls

On Jan 1, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Ted Creedon wrote:

 this talk is all well  good but meanwhile GC is inoperable on updated
 distros using Guile 2.0.

And that is the distro maintainers problem. Go bug them or switch distros.

 
 I think one should bite the bullet and eliminate swig/guile.
 

That isn't in the cards for 2.6, Guile has its tentacles into a lot more places 
than the report writer. Until somebody figures out how to get Guile-2.0 to load 
extensions from somewhere other than /usr/lib, Guile-2.0 support isn't going to 
happen either.

Regards,
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Re: 2.6 Release -- SCheme

2012-01-01 Thread Ted Creedon
Nothing like progress, installing guile 1.8 doesn't work either
Tedc
On Sunday, January 1, 2012, John Ralls jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us
wrote:

 On Jan 1, 2012, at 7:00 AM, Ted Creedon wrote:

 this talk is all well  good but meanwhile GC is inoperable on updated
 distros using Guile 2.0.

 And that is the distro maintainers problem. Go bug them or switch distros.


 I think one should bite the bullet and eliminate swig/guile.


 That isn't in the cards for 2.6, Guile has its tentacles into a lot more
places than the report writer. Until somebody figures out how to get
Guile-2.0 to load extensions from somewhere other than /usr/lib, Guile-2.0
support isn't going to happen either.

 Regards,
 John Ralls



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Re: Guile problems

2012-01-01 Thread John Ralls

On Jan 1, 2012, at 10:51 AM, Ted Creedon wrote:

 Nothing like progress, installing guile 1.8 doesn't work either

And since Guile 1.8 is known to work with GC (it's what's shipped in the OSX 
distribution and what you'll find in most distros), you may have other 
issues... or GC might still be finding the Guile-2 installation. But this is a 
topic for your distro' s support mailing list, not for here.

Regards,
John Ralls



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