Re: [GNC-dev] Fwd: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"

2019-05-07 Thread Maf. King
Hi Christopher.

sorry for not getting back to you sooner - we had a bank holiday weekend here 
in the UK and family life took over.

I'm on it now, adding bits to your template file.

I think the report handles the reverse VAT etc OK - might need some extra 
subtotals exposing for boxes 2,8,9.   I don't do it often, and when I do it 
has only been simple transactions.

will be in touch later with a data file.

Maf.



On Monday, 6 May 2019 04:39:06 BST Christopher Lam wrote:
> Just wondering -- barring the capital purchase issue (which is easily
> resolved by expanding the sales/purchases account selection to *all*
> account types), is the GST report able to handle EC VAT splits? I think it
> does...
> 
> Opinion welcome at
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/500#issuecomment-489482829 ...
> 
> On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 02:13, Maf. King  wrote:
> > Hi Christopher,
> > thanks, I've just subscribed to -devel
> > 
> > I can see no reason for anything other than GBP in a UK VAT return!
> > sensible
> > restriction.
> > 
> > Maf.
> > 
> > On Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:44:59 BST Christopher Lam wrote:
> > > Maf's reply forwarded to devel.
> > > 
> > > I think a sensible restriction to vat-report will be: all amounts *must*
> > 
> > be
> > 
> > > converted into a report-currency... which will then ensure there's only
> > > 1
> > > currency for grand-total, therefore 1 heading + 1 grand-total = 1 csv
> > 
> > row.
> > 
> > > -- Forwarded message -
> > > From: Maf. King 
> > > Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 at 13:36
> > > Subject: Re: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"
> > > To: Christopher Lam 
> > > Cc: gnucash-devel 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hi Christopher,
> > > 
> > > responses inline:
> > > 
> > > On Thursday, 2 May 2019 12:36:06 BST Christopher Lam wrote:
> > > > Are you referring to the Multicolumn report with multiple embedded
> > > 
> > > reports?
> > > 
> > > > This one would be very annoying to create CSV export from... each
> > 
> > embedded
> > 
> > > > report exposes its html output only.
> > > 
> > > That was the report I was thinking of, not surprised that CSV would be
> > 
> > hard
> > 
> > > to
> > > generate.
> > > 
> > > > The links I attached earlier (replacing transaction.scm and
> > > > income-gst-statement.scm) would enable CSV export, exposing the
> > > > headers
> > > 
> > > and
> > > 
> > > > the grand-totals.
> > > 
> > > Correct, that is what I see.  but the totals are wrong because the
> > > report
> > > can't consider the asset purchases.
> > > 
> > > > Meanwhile I'm rather more interested in generating a proper solution
> > :
> > :-)
> > :
> > > > For UK VAT I'd think the more complex requirements here would warrant
> > > > a
> > > > customised solution based on the existing VAT account structure,
> > > > rather
> > > > than to try shoehorn hacks on the existing report.
> > > 
> > > Fair enough.  I guess the GST report was written with Oz in mind and
> > > then
> > > generalised a bit.
> > > 
> > > > If you can create a sample datafile based on the CoA as suggested by
> > > > New-account wizard,
> > > 
> > > No problem, will take your template file and try to get that sorted over
> > > the
> > > weekend or early next week.
> > > 
> > > thanks,
> > > Maf.
> > 
> > --
> > Maf. King
> > PGP Key fingerprint = 8D68 A91F 733B 2C1F 43B7  2B7C E591 E8E1 0DE7 C542


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Re: [GNC-dev] Fwd: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"

2019-05-05 Thread Christopher Lam
Just wondering -- barring the capital purchase issue (which is easily
resolved by expanding the sales/purchases account selection to *all*
account types), is the GST report able to handle EC VAT splits? I think it
does...

Opinion welcome at
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/500#issuecomment-489482829 ...

On Fri, 3 May 2019 at 02:13, Maf. King  wrote:

> Hi Christopher,
> thanks, I've just subscribed to -devel
>
> I can see no reason for anything other than GBP in a UK VAT return!
> sensible
> restriction.
>
> Maf.
>
>
> On Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:44:59 BST Christopher Lam wrote:
> > Maf's reply forwarded to devel.
> >
> > I think a sensible restriction to vat-report will be: all amounts *must*
> be
> > converted into a report-currency... which will then ensure there's only 1
> > currency for grand-total, therefore 1 heading + 1 grand-total = 1 csv
> row.
> >
> > -- Forwarded message -
> > From: Maf. King 
> > Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 at 13:36
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"
> > To: Christopher Lam 
> > Cc: gnucash-devel 
> >
> >
> > Hi Christopher,
> >
> > responses inline:
> >
> > On Thursday, 2 May 2019 12:36:06 BST Christopher Lam wrote:
> > > Are you referring to the Multicolumn report with multiple embedded
> >
> > reports?
> >
> > > This one would be very annoying to create CSV export from... each
> embedded
> > > report exposes its html output only.
> >
> > That was the report I was thinking of, not surprised that CSV would be
> hard
> > to
> > generate.
> >
> > > The links I attached earlier (replacing transaction.scm and
> > > income-gst-statement.scm) would enable CSV export, exposing the headers
> >
> > and
> >
> > > the grand-totals.
> >
> > Correct, that is what I see.  but the totals are wrong because the report
> > can't consider the asset purchases.
> >
> > > Meanwhile I'm rather more interested in generating a proper solution
> :-)
> > >
> > > For UK VAT I'd think the more complex requirements here would warrant a
> > > customised solution based on the existing VAT account structure, rather
> > > than to try shoehorn hacks on the existing report.
> >
> > Fair enough.  I guess the GST report was written with Oz in mind and then
> > generalised a bit.
> >
> > > If you can create a sample datafile based on the CoA as suggested by
> > > New-account wizard,
> >
> > No problem, will take your template file and try to get that sorted over
> > the
> > weekend or early next week.
> >
> > thanks,
> > Maf.
>
>
> --
> Maf. King
> PGP Key fingerprint = 8D68 A91F 733B 2C1F 43B7  2B7C E591 E8E1 0DE7 C542
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC-dev] Fwd: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"

2019-05-03 Thread Maf. King
Hi Christopher,
thanks, I've just subscribed to -devel

I can see no reason for anything other than GBP in a UK VAT return!  sensible 
restriction.

Maf.


On Thursday, 2 May 2019 16:44:59 BST Christopher Lam wrote:
> Maf's reply forwarded to devel.
> 
> I think a sensible restriction to vat-report will be: all amounts *must* be
> converted into a report-currency... which will then ensure there's only 1
> currency for grand-total, therefore 1 heading + 1 grand-total = 1 csv row.
> 
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: Maf. King 
> Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 at 13:36
> Subject: Re: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"
> To: Christopher Lam 
> Cc: gnucash-devel 
> 
> 
> Hi Christopher,
> 
> responses inline:
> 
> On Thursday, 2 May 2019 12:36:06 BST Christopher Lam wrote:
> > Are you referring to the Multicolumn report with multiple embedded
> 
> reports?
> 
> > This one would be very annoying to create CSV export from... each embedded
> > report exposes its html output only.
> 
> That was the report I was thinking of, not surprised that CSV would be hard
> to
> generate.
> 
> > The links I attached earlier (replacing transaction.scm and
> > income-gst-statement.scm) would enable CSV export, exposing the headers
> 
> and
> 
> > the grand-totals.
> 
> Correct, that is what I see.  but the totals are wrong because the report
> can't consider the asset purchases.
> 
> > Meanwhile I'm rather more interested in generating a proper solution :-)
> > 
> > For UK VAT I'd think the more complex requirements here would warrant a
> > customised solution based on the existing VAT account structure, rather
> > than to try shoehorn hacks on the existing report.
> 
> Fair enough.  I guess the GST report was written with Oz in mind and then
> generalised a bit.
> 
> > If you can create a sample datafile based on the CoA as suggested by
> > New-account wizard,
> 
> No problem, will take your template file and try to get that sorted over
> the
> weekend or early next week.
> 
> thanks,
> Maf.


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[GNC-dev] Fwd: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"

2019-05-02 Thread Christopher Lam
Maf's reply forwarded to devel.

I think a sensible restriction to vat-report will be: all amounts *must* be
converted into a report-currency... which will then ensure there's only 1
currency for grand-total, therefore 1 heading + 1 grand-total = 1 csv row.

-- Forwarded message -
From: Maf. King 
Date: Thu, 2 May 2019 at 13:36
Subject: Re: [GNC] UK VAT and "Making Tax Digital"
To: Christopher Lam 
Cc: gnucash-devel 


Hi Christopher,

responses inline:

On Thursday, 2 May 2019 12:36:06 BST Christopher Lam wrote:
> Are you referring to the Multicolumn report with multiple embedded
reports?
> This one would be very annoying to create CSV export from... each embedded
> report exposes its html output only.
>

That was the report I was thinking of, not surprised that CSV would be hard
to
generate.


> The links I attached earlier (replacing transaction.scm and
> income-gst-statement.scm) would enable CSV export, exposing the headers
and
> the grand-totals.
>

Correct, that is what I see.  but the totals are wrong because the report
can't consider the asset purchases.

> Meanwhile I'm rather more interested in generating a proper solution :-)
>
> For UK VAT I'd think the more complex requirements here would warrant a
> customised solution based on the existing VAT account structure, rather
> than to try shoehorn hacks on the existing report.
>

Fair enough.  I guess the GST report was written with Oz in mind and then
generalised a bit.


> If you can create a sample datafile based on the CoA as suggested by
> New-account wizard,

No problem, will take your template file and try to get that sorted over
the
weekend or early next week.

thanks,
Maf.
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