Re: Disputing a donation to the gnucash project?

2010-09-21 Thread Michael W. Carney

On 09/15/2010 06:06 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:

Michael,

I received an email from your donation, and then received a message from
paypal that you are disputing your donation.  What's up with that?

I'm sorry for bringing this up publically, but frankly in the years
we've been accepting donations you are the first to dispute it!

-derek



Derek,

The paypal receipt I received states that my donation payment went to 
IHTFP Consulting, Inc. Intrigued, I went to IHTFP's website, and there's 
no mention of gnucash there. I only learned that IHTFP is *your* 
consulting group. Not at all what I expected.


My previous gnucash donation paypal payments list 
give-to-proj...@sourceforge.net as the "seller", with "gnucash" in the 
description.


I disputed the transaction because I thought it was being misdirected to 
something other than a gnucash donation. Seems like a reasonable move to 
make given the above.


Also, the paypal dispute email that was sent to you lists the following 
comment:


"I was attempting to donate $20.00 to gnucash at sourceforge.net, and 
instead the donation was sent to IHTFP Consulting, Inc., the *wrong* 
recipient. I would like my donation refunded, so that I can apply it to 
the intended recipient.


Thanks."

You could have simply responded to the dispute and clarified that the 
donation was in fact going to the right place and saved gnucash-devel 
this exchange. Although that would have meant you would have missed the 
chance to publicly humiliate me.


Mike

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Re: Disputing a donation to the gnucash project?

2010-09-16 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi,

"Michael W. Carney"  writes:

[snip]
> You could have simply responded to the dispute and clarified that the
> donation was in fact going to the right place and saved gnucash-devel
> this exchange. Although that would have meant you would have missed
> the chance to publicly humiliate me.

I'm sorry for bringing this up publically.  As I said this is the first
PayPal dispute ever (after a few years of the tip jar being up), so I
was both surprised at it and unsure how to deal.  The message I got from
paypal was pretty long (it's a 2-3 page email) and your message was
hidden in there.  Not your fault, but definitely confusing for someone
who gets dozens of paypal phishing attempts a day but many fewer actual
paypal notices.

I've responded within paypal; we can keep further communications about
the transaction there.

To keep this confusion from happening in the future, I propose that we
put something on the website to let people know what to expect with
their donation.  Do you have any wording that you would recommend (what
would have helped you)?  Also, where would you propose that we add this
additional verbiage (what pages did you look at prior to donating)?

Thanks!!

> Mike

-derek

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Disputing a donation to the gnucash project?

2010-09-15 Thread Derek Atkins
Michael,

I received an email from your donation, and then received a message from
paypal that you are disputing your donation.  What's up with that?

I'm sorry for bringing this up publically, but frankly in the years
we've been accepting donations you are the first to dispute it!

-derek
-- 
   Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory
   Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board  (SIPB)
   URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH
   warl...@mit.eduPGP key available
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