Re: E-guile link

2005-11-01 Thread Brian Rose

Hi Derek,


FYI, the e-guile link is back up:

http://woozle.org/~neale/repos/eguile/eguile.html
I looked at it. It appears intuitive and nice to 
use. However, how does that fit with

Josh Sled's simple roadmap explanation after G2? E.g.,

We've been really focused on the G2 port and 2.0, 
and intentionally
haven't talked with too much rigor about post-2.0, 
at the same time
there's been a lot of discussion over the last 
year or so, and I think

it breaks out like:
...
  - Scheme removal
...
- Fix modularity system
 cutpasted from

http://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-devel@gnucash.org/msg12143.html

Is Scheme/Guile staying in or going out? Would 
e-guile be deleted within the year

and replaced?

Sincerely,
Brian

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Re: E-guile link

2005-11-01 Thread Derek Atkins

IMNSHO, what Josh means is that the WAY gnucash uses guile needs to
be fixed, and the way that gnucash is so /dependent/ on guile needs
to be fixed.  Guile needs to be removed from the startup sequence.
Gnucash needs to depend LESS upon guile.

But I don't EVER see guile being /completely/ removed.  I definitely
do not believe that eguile would be ripped out in a year.

-derek

Quoting Brian Rose [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


Hi Derek,


FYI, the e-guile link is back up:

http://woozle.org/~neale/repos/eguile/eguile.html
I looked at it. It appears intuitive and nice to use. However, how 
does that fit with

Josh Sled's simple roadmap explanation after G2? E.g.,

We've been really focused on the G2 port and 2.0, and intentionally
haven't talked with too much rigor about post-2.0, at the same time
there's been a lot of discussion over the last year or so, and I think
it breaks out like:
...
  - Scheme removal
...
- Fix modularity system
 cutpasted from

http://www.mail-archive.com/gnucash-devel@gnucash.org/msg12143.html

Is Scheme/Guile staying in or going out? Would e-guile be deleted 
within the year

and replaced?

Sincerely,
Brian

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Re: E-guile link

2005-11-01 Thread Josh Sled
On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 06:16 -0800, Brian Rose wrote:
 Is Scheme/Guile staying in or going out? Would 
 e-guile be deleted within the year
 and replaced?

:)  Good question.  In my ideal world, we would remove it entirely and
find a different, light-weight templating system for the reports ...
something like Template-Toolkit.  At the same time, my list was my
opinion only. and a little rushed... others don't have quite the desire
for scheme-elimination that I do. :)

My major objection to the prevalence of scheme in gnucash is in other
locations than the reporting.  I could certainly see scheme being
removed everywhere *but* the templating of the reports via eguile.  As
well, we could have more than one mechanism for templating reports,
especially if the bulk of the reports were already in one technology. 

I don't think there's a high probability of it being removed w/in a
year, were it to occur.

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RE: E-guile link

2005-11-01 Thread Tracy Brown
Title: RE: E-guile link







I have no opinion about using scheme or not for anything, but if there are folks who want to get rid of it; we can evaluate the use of XSLT as a templating engine. I've used it and it's okay but I suspect that eguile is much more flexible.

Tracy.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Josh Sled
Sent: Tue 11/1/2005 7:43 AM
To: Brian Rose
Cc: gnucash-devel@lists.gnucash.org
Subject: Re: E-guile link

On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 06:16 -0800, Brian Rose wrote:
 Is Scheme/Guile staying in or going out? Would
 e-guile be deleted within the year
 and replaced?

:) Good question. In my ideal world, we would remove it entirely and
find a different, light-weight templating system for the reports ...
something like Template-Toolkit. At the same time, my list was my
opinion only. and a little rushed... others don't have quite the desire
for scheme-elimination that I do. :)

My major objection to the prevalence of scheme in gnucash is in other
locations than the reporting. I could certainly see scheme being
removed everywhere *but* the templating of the reports via eguile. As
well, we could have more than one mechanism for templating reports,
especially if the bulk of the reports were already in one technology.

I don't think there's a high probability of it being removed w/in a
year, were it to occur.

...jsled
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Re: E-guile link

2005-11-01 Thread Derek Atkins
Nah, might as well focus on eguile in the short term.

-derek

Tracy Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I have no opinion about using scheme or not for anything, but if there are
 folks who want to get rid of it; we can evaluate the use of XSLT as a
 templating engine. I've used it and it's okay but I suspect that eguile is
 much more flexible.

 Tracy.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Josh Sled
 Sent: Tue 11/1/2005 7:43 AM
 To: Brian Rose
 Cc: gnucash-devel@lists.gnucash.org
 Subject: Re: E-guile link

 On Tue, 2005-11-01 at 06:16 -0800, Brian Rose wrote:
 Is Scheme/Guile staying in or going out? Would
 e-guile be deleted within the year
 and replaced?

 :)  Good question.  In my ideal world, we would remove it entirely and
 find a different, light-weight templating system for the reports ...
 something like Template-Toolkit.  At the same time, my list was my
 opinion only. and a little rushed... others don't have quite the desire
 for scheme-elimination that I do. :)

 My major objection to the prevalence of scheme in gnucash is in other
 locations than the reporting.  I could certainly see scheme being
 removed everywhere *but* the templating of the reports via eguile.  As
 well, we could have more than one mechanism for templating reports,
 especially if the bulk of the reports were already in one technology.

 I don't think there's a high probability of it being removed w/in a
 year, were it to occur.

 ...jsled
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Re: E-guile link

2005-11-01 Thread Neil Williams
On Tuesday 01 November 2005 6:34 pm, Derek Atkins wrote:
 Nah, might as well focus on eguile in the short term.

 -derek

 Tracy Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I have no opinion about using scheme or not for anything, but if there
  are folks who want to get rid of it; we can evaluate the use of XSLT as a
  templating engine. I've used it and it's okay but I suspect that eguile
  is much more flexible.

You can always use XSLT for your own customised reports and if, once you have 
G2 installed, you create XSL stylesheets for QSF that you think could be 
useful to others, feel free to let me know.

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E-guile link

2005-10-31 Thread Derek Atkins
FYI, the e-guile link is back up:

http://woozle.org/~neale/repos/eguile/eguile.html

-derek
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