Re: SaveAs label?

2000-06-23 Thread brownh


  It would also be nice to see some feedback, such as "Your data saved
  as ~/filename.sav". That would be comforting, because people often get
  to this point after a lot of work entering information, and are
  paranoid about loosing it.
 
 The development version now displays the current filename in the main
 window title bar. Would that be enough?

Yes, for once a user knows the text is in the title bar, he'll easily
remember to glance there for the confirmation.

Thanks for your reply to my questions; reassuring.

Haines Brown

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SaveAs label?

2000-06-22 Thread brownh

Sorry for the elementary remarks. I'm back to gnucash after an
abortive try at it some time ago.

To close the application, one must save the data, but the Save As...
dialog that opens strikes me as ambivalent when it comes to the file
name. Displayed is a log file with the current date. While one
intuitively does not think of a "log" as a save, it almost looks like
it is being suggested as the default filename.

I think the user needs a little direction here. Perhaps nothing more
than a label next to the filename textfield that says to create a new
save-file name here. Although neither used nor needed, telling the
user to use a .sav extenion to the file name might remove some
ambiguity. Also, should the user incorporate the current date in the
save file name, in the manner of the log file? If a subsequent Save
simply replaces the old Save file, a file name incorporating the date
would be inappropriate. Perhaps both points would be addressed to some
extent with a label that includes a sample file name.

It would also be nice to see some feedback, such as "Your data saved
as ~/filename.sav". That would be comforting, because people often get
to this point after a lot of work entering information, and are
paranoid about loosing it.

Perhaps even add to the dialog or the feeback a very simple indication
of how one recovers old data should there be a disastor. That would be
comforting. The dialog seems to have the room for some more labels.

I think someone mentioned an auto-save feature, and that sure would be
nice, too, especially if there were a disable option in a
Preferences... dialog. How about a single autosave after 30 minutes of
no activity in the Registry window?

Sorry to belabor these points, but I'll bet many folks are as paranoid
as I am about saving data and backups, and so the process of a Save
should be both very explicit and very clear.
   
Haines Brown

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Re: SaveAs label?

2000-06-22 Thread Dave Peticolas

Haines Brown writes:
 Sorry for the elementary remarks. I'm back to gnucash after an
 abortive try at it some time ago.

All comments are welcome, thanks.


 To close the application, one must save the data, but the Save As...
 dialog that opens strikes me as ambivalent when it comes to the file
 name. Displayed is a log file with the current date. While one
 intuitively does not think of a "log" as a save, it almost looks like
 it is being suggested as the default filename.
 
 I think the user needs a little direction here. Perhaps nothing more
 than a label next to the filename textfield that says to create a new
 save-file name here. Although neither used nor needed, telling the
 user to use a .sav extenion to the file name might remove some
 ambiguity. Also, should the user incorporate the current date in the
 save file name, in the manner of the log file? If a subsequent Save
 simply replaces the old Save file, a file name incorporating the date
 would be inappropriate. Perhaps both points would be addressed to some
 extent with a label that includes a sample file name.
 
 It would also be nice to see some feedback, such as "Your data saved
 as ~/filename.sav". That would be comforting, because people often get
 to this point after a lot of work entering information, and are
 paranoid about loosing it.

The development version now displays the current filename in the main
window title bar. Would that be enough?


 Perhaps even add to the dialog or the feeback a very simple indication
 of how one recovers old data should there be a disastor. That would be
 comforting. The dialog seems to have the room for some more labels.

The dialog is the standard one from gtk+, and is hard to modify.

What I'd like to do is add recovery to the GUI in the main window,
under the File menu.


 I think someone mentioned an auto-save feature, and that sure would be
 nice, too, especially if there were a disable option in a
 Preferences... dialog. How about a single autosave after 30 minutes of
 no activity in the Registry window?

I think we're going to go with automatic recovery from logs. This is
similar to autosaving, but is, essentialy, continuous autosaving
without the overhead of writing the database each time.


 Sorry to belabor these points, but I'll bet many folks are as paranoid
 as I am about saving data and backups, and so the process of a Save
 should be both very explicit and very clear.

Paranoia is good, thanks for your comments :)

dave

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Re: SaveAs label?

2000-06-22 Thread Hendrik Boom

 
 I think someone mentioned an auto-save feature, and that sure would be
 nice, too, especially if there were a disable option in a
 Preferences... dialog. How about a single autosave after 30 minutes of
 no activity in the Registry window?

We already maintain a log, which does not eat disk in huge chunks.
All that is needed is to enable gnucash to read the log.


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