Re: Splash Screen Revisited
Well, I'm going to be a bit more opinionated than everyone else, but I do think it's great that you're taken on the work :) Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: As far as the lines go, I've lightened them and sent them back, but if they're still too much, I'll take them out. Yes, I think there is way too much visual clutter in this image, I think you need to simplify things to give it more impact. Firstly I think the logo type is a bit too weak, something bolder would I think have more impact. Secondly I think you ought to take the best idea you've had here an expand it, simplifying the image in the process. Specifically I think the bank card cash and money are great, focusing on them and making them bigger would be nice I think. I'd love to see you make some gnu banknotes and gnu coins, there is plenty of gnu artwork about you can use: http://www.gnu.org/graphics/graphics.html http://adele.gerwinski.de/~anja/gnuart/aurelio/index.html I'd strip away the background entirely, leaving it white, or perhaps using a single solid colour. And I'd use a lot less - possibly even none at all - transparency (I know it's cool, but it doesn't really make any sense in this context). I'd also like to see the strip on the bank card without transparency and without the gradient. Apologies for shooting down you're work so harshly, especially when I'm not doing anything to help myself. -- Adrian Simmons (aka adrinux) http://adrinux.perlucida.com e-mail mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 21:11 -0500, Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash2.png My only concern is that it explicitly says version 2.0. That means that the splash screen will have to be updated with each release (2.1, 2.2, etc). I'm hoping these will be much more frequent than the time interval between 1.8 and 2.0. David ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
Quoting David Hampton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 21:11 -0500, Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash2.png My only concern is that it explicitly says version 2.0. That means that the splash screen will have to be updated with each release (2.1, 2.2, etc). I'm hoping these will be much more frequent than the time interval between 1.8 and 2.0. Good point.. the window surrounding the splash screen already has the version number so we don't really need the version# in the graphic. David -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP key available ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
Ok, makes sense, but is it okay if I use 2 for the money and credit card graphics, which probably nobody will really see anyway since they're so small? If it needs to be changed later, for version 3 it can be easily done, since it's in svg. Maybe it will make more sense once I upload some new things I'm working on. JF Derek Atkins wrote: Quoting David Hampton [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 21:11 -0500, Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash2.png My only concern is that it explicitly says version 2.0. That means that the splash screen will have to be updated with each release (2.1, 2.2, etc). I'm hoping these will be much more frequent than the time interval between 1.8 and 2.0. Good point.. the window surrounding the splash screen already has the version number so we don't really need the version# in the graphic. David -derek ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 09:11:05PM -0500, Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: I tried to make a stock tape, but it's not very good. However, you can't see a whole lot at that size. So here are a couple more. http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash2.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash3.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash4.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/banner2.png I have a slight preference for banner 1 over banner 2 (slightly bigger font relative to the bank card), but both look good to me. Someone else wanted an entirely plain background, and I disagree. A background needs to have something in it, something that doesn't distract from the foreground, but blank/solid is not appealing from an aesthetic standpoint. Splash2 is my favorite. One of the logos (logo.png) gave me the impression that the squiggly line behind the GnuCash text was the shadow of the text. I don't know what tools you have to work with but something that basically cast the shadow of the text with about the same footprint might be cool and/or better for the people who don't like the line as is. (I think it's fine as is.) I'm thinking not a direct shadow but one where the sun is near the horizon to the left casting a shadow on a glass plane floating beneath the letters, so that from the elevated viewer's perspective of a 2-D image it still goes in about the same places as the current squiggle: behind as well as below the letters. --Beth + + Beth Leonard + + O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave + + O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?+ + ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
Here's a set of graphics for further abuse. Please beat them up so I can make them better. http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/icon.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/logo.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/banner.png JF ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 11:13 -0400, Josh Sled wrote: On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 07:23 -0500, Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: Here's a set of graphics for further abuse. Please beat them up so I can make them better. http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/icon.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/logo.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/banner.png I sure like these better than the ones we have today :) Very good start I think. I agree with Josh though, the wavy line and the horisontal lines I am not to sure of. /Bengt ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
Quoting Bengt Thuree [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 11:13 -0400, Josh Sled wrote: On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 07:23 -0500, Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: Here's a set of graphics for further abuse. Please beat them up so I can make them better. http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/icon.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/logo.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/banner.png I sure like these better than the ones we have today :) Very good start I think. I agree with Josh though, the wavy line and the horisontal lines I am not to sure of. The straight line doesn't bother me.. I was wondering how it would look if it looked more like a stock ticket tape? /Bengt -derek -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP key available ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
On Fri, 2006-19-05 at 12:01 -0400, Derek Atkins wrote: Quoting Bengt Thuree [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 11:13 -0400, Josh Sled wrote: On Fri, 2006-05-19 at 07:23 -0500, Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: Here's a set of graphics for further abuse. Please beat them up so I can make them better. http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/icon.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/logo.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/banner.png I sure like these better than the ones we have today :) Very good start I think. I agree with Josh though, the wavy line and the horisontal lines I am not to sure of. The straight line doesn't bother me.. I don't care for the horizontals much. They may be better if they are in the background, not the foreground, maybe a little more translucent. I was wondering how it would look if it looked more like a stock ticket tape? -derek I think it might be better as well. Overall, They are very good and certainly show off some professional art skills. I think they will be better than the current ones as well. -- Brian [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
Thanks. Replied back to the list (because that's where this should've gone). Personally I don't mind the curvy line at the top. I'm not sure how I personally feel about the rest. *shrugs* Maybe other's have more concrete opinions. -derek Quoting Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am providing any art under the GPL license along with Gnucash. I'm trying to contribute back to some great projects which have helped me in my business (100% open source Linux graphic design systems that I use every day for real stuff). As far as the lines go, I've lightened them, but if they're still too much, I'll take them out. I tried to make a stock tape, but it's not very good. However, you can't see a whole lot at that size. So here are a couple more. http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash2.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash3.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash4.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/banner2.png JF -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP key available ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
FWIW, I like 'em. They're better than the current 1.8x graphics, IMO (which I also like) Tim On Friday 19 May 2006 6:28 pm, Derek Atkins wrote: Thanks. Replied back to the list (because that's where this should've gone). Personally I don't mind the curvy line at the top. I'm not sure how I personally feel about the rest. *shrugs* Maybe other's have more concrete opinions. -derek Quoting Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I am providing any art under the GPL license along with Gnucash. I'm trying to contribute back to some great projects which have helped me in my business (100% open source Linux graphic design systems that I use every day for real stuff). As far as the lines go, I've lightened them, but if they're still too much, I'll take them out. I tried to make a stock tape, but it's not very good. However, you can't see a whole lot at that size. So here are a couple more. http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash2.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash3.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash4.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/banner2.png JF pgp7bhCzuxDwe.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
On Fri, May 19, 2006 at 07:23:37AM -0500, Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: Here's a set of graphics for further abuse. Please beat them up so I can make them better. http://www.impressusart.com/download/splash.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/icon.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/logo.png http://www.impressusart.com/download/banner.png These are nice! My only comment would be about the splash. I think an actual splash would be only about 1/4 of that size, so I would think about bringing the screenshot, symbols, and numbers forward, especially the numbers. And I agree that the evenly spaced horizontal lines are distracting, without offering much. -chris ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
Based on other people's answers, I think the answer is Yes, we are still interested in an updated splash screen. -derek Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Thanks for your reply. I actually updated it before you sent this email to include other currencies, having read the discussion more thoroughly. I guess what I want to ask is, are you interested in any further development of this splash screen and other logo stuff by me? If so, I'll be glad to do so, and work to make it something that really fits. Otherwise, I'll work on other things. Just let me know, and if so I'll post some updates for discussion to the list. JF Christian Stimming wrote: Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2006 08:40 schrieb Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art: I was looking on the wiki for things to help with and I saw art as one of the options. I wondered what art needs work. I've read the previous comments about splash screens, and thought I'd offer one. www.impressusart.com/download/gnucash_splash.png It's in keeping with the current one's design, but different. Interesting. Thanks a lot for this new proposal. However, as Chris already has pointed out, there are some suboptimum things here: Just as Chris, I first thought this pen to be a knife... it should be much more clear that this is a pen. Perhaps more something like a stylograph. Also, although your logo looks very nice, you've just encoutered once again the ever-returning internationalization vs. currency symbol issue. In other words, the '$' simply is only the currency symbol for USD and *not* for currencies in general or money in general. Gnucash, on the other hand, is specifically targeted towards any currencies and not at all limited to or emphasizing USD currency. This means any kind of logo and/or splash screen *must not* use USD as a single/predominant currency. Or Euro, or Yen, or Pound, for that matter... Just as a general rule: If it should be truly international, don't use a single currency symbol. And something that I think can still be improved for the main part of your splash screen picture: You don't show anything that is particular to gnucash in any way. That's something that was done well in the 1.8 splash screen: It contained the pie charts as a representative for the diagrams, and an account register. Perhaps a new splash screen should still try to include those two elements somewhere. Thank you very much for your contribution in any case. Regards, Christian ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel -- Derek Atkins, SB '93 MIT EE, SM '95 MIT Media Laboratory Member, MIT Student Information Processing Board (SIPB) URL: http://web.mit.edu/warlord/PP-ASEL-IA N1NWH [EMAIL PROTECTED]PGP key available ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
Thanks for your reply. I actually updated it before you sent this email to include other currencies, having read the discussion more thoroughly. I guess what I want to ask is, are you interested in any further development of this splash screen and other logo stuff by me? If so, I'll be glad to do so, and work to make it something that really fits. Otherwise, I'll work on other things. Just let me know, and if so I'll post some updates for discussion to the list. JF Christian Stimming wrote: Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2006 08:40 schrieb Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art: I was looking on the wiki for things to help with and I saw art as one of the options. I wondered what art needs work. I've read the previous comments about splash screens, and thought I'd offer one. www.impressusart.com/download/gnucash_splash.png It's in keeping with the current one's design, but different. Interesting. Thanks a lot for this new proposal. However, as Chris already has pointed out, there are some suboptimum things here: Just as Chris, I first thought this pen to be a knife... it should be much more clear that this is a pen. Perhaps more something like a stylograph. Also, although your logo looks very nice, you've just encoutered once again the ever-returning internationalization vs. currency symbol issue. In other words, the '$' simply is only the currency symbol for USD and *not* for currencies in general or money in general. Gnucash, on the other hand, is specifically targeted towards any currencies and not at all limited to or emphasizing USD currency. This means any kind of logo and/or splash screen *must not* use USD as a single/predominant currency. Or Euro, or Yen, or Pound, for that matter... Just as a general rule: If it should be truly international, don't use a single currency symbol. And something that I think can still be improved for the main part of your splash screen picture: You don't show anything that is particular to gnucash in any way. That's something that was done well in the 1.8 splash screen: It contained the pie charts as a representative for the diagrams, and an account register. Perhaps a new splash screen should still try to include those two elements somewhere. Thank you very much for your contribution in any case. Regards, Christian ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
Am Samstag, 6. Mai 2006 08:40 schrieb Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art: I was looking on the wiki for things to help with and I saw art as one of the options. I wondered what art needs work. I've read the previous comments about splash screens, and thought I'd offer one. www.impressusart.com/download/gnucash_splash.png It's in keeping with the current one's design, but different. Interesting. Thanks a lot for this new proposal. However, as Chris already has pointed out, there are some suboptimum things here: Just as Chris, I first thought this pen to be a knife... it should be much more clear that this is a pen. Perhaps more something like a stylograph. Also, although your logo looks very nice, you've just encoutered once again the ever-returning internationalization vs. currency symbol issue. In other words, the '$' simply is only the currency symbol for USD and *not* for currencies in general or money in general. Gnucash, on the other hand, is specifically targeted towards any currencies and not at all limited to or emphasizing USD currency. This means any kind of logo and/or splash screen *must not* use USD as a single/predominant currency. Or Euro, or Yen, or Pound, for that matter... Just as a general rule: If it should be truly international, don't use a single currency symbol. And something that I think can still be improved for the main part of your splash screen picture: You don't show anything that is particular to gnucash in any way. That's something that was done well in the 1.8 splash screen: It contained the pie charts as a representative for the diagrams, and an account register. Perhaps a new splash screen should still try to include those two elements somewhere. Thank you very much for your contribution in any case. Regards, Christian ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Splash Screen Revisited
I was looking on the wiki for things to help with and I saw art as one of the options. I wondered what art needs work. I've read the previous comments about splash screens, and thought I'd offer one. www.impressusart.com/download/gnucash_splash.png It's in keeping with the current one's design, but different. What do you think? Joshua Facemyer ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
Re: Splash Screen Revisited
On Sat, May 06, 2006 at 01:40:52AM -0500, Joshua Facemyer / Impressus Art wrote: I was looking on the wiki for things to help with and I saw art as one of the options. I wondered what art needs work. I've read the previous comments about splash screens, and thought I'd offer one. www.impressusart.com/download/gnucash_splash.png It's in keeping with the current one's design, but different. What do you think? My honest first impression is negative: I can't quite tell what that object in the foreground is. At first, I thought it was a knife! Now, I think it might be a letter-opener, or maybe a pen. In any case, it looks too similar to a weapon for my tastes. Also, I think it'd be nice to have some consistency between the splash screen and other places where there is art, like the website. So, I'd suggest either reusing the GnuCash word from the website, or proposing a set of logos to replace the art on the website, too. FWIW, I like your logo a bit better than the existing one. Your's is cleaner and less-funky, but I see a big value in consistency. -chris Joshua Facemyer ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel ___ gnucash-devel mailing list gnucash-devel@gnucash.org https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-devel
