Re: Links time out

[Michael Henry]

I could start flushing caches, etc, but first I'd like to say that I get
exactly the same responses on my Android LG3 using Chrome.

Anyhow, I was just trying to get to that site as a first step to figure out
to get help on gnucash not importing my quicken 2017 export file.

_Michael

On Dec 31, 2017 8:21 PM, "David Carlson" 
wrote:

When I tried that link it took me to the server which suggested that I
probably really wanted to go to one of the lists that it services.

A few years ago I used to be using an IP address that was blacklisted for a
very dumb reason, but it caused several websites, for example Ancestry.com
to block me.

I do not know if there are still some cases of that type today.

David C

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:

> I tried the Web link you gave previously and it worked for me.
>
> Try restarting your computer or delete your browser's history and or
> cookies.  Otherwise, does somebody manage your computer or the Web sites
> you visit? They might be preventing your access for some reason.
>
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Samsung Galaxy S5)
>
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2017 5:26 PM, "Michael Henry"  wrote:
>
> > If it never worked for anyone it would have been addressed a long time
> ago.
> >
> > I'm just Joe Blow with Comcast internet running Windows 10 and a Chrome
> > browser. And yes, everything else works fine; I have no issues with any
> > other website.
> >
> > I get:
> > This site can’t be reached
> >
> > *lists.gnucash.org * refused to connect.
> >
> > Try:
> >
> >- Checking the connection
> >
> > ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
> >
> >
> > On Dec 31, 2017 2:35 PM, "Dave H"  wrote:
> >
> > > All good for me :-)
> > >
> > > On 1 January 2018 at 08:11, Michael Henry  wrote:
> > >
> > >> This link just times out.
> > >>
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Re: Links time out

[David Carlson]

When I tried that link it took me to the server which suggested that I
probably really wanted to go to one of the lists that it services.

A few years ago I used to be using an IP address that was blacklisted for a
very dumb reason, but it caused several websites, for example Ancestry.com
to block me.

I do not know if there are still some cases of that type today.

David C

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Greg Feneis  wrote:

> I tried the Web link you gave previously and it worked for me.
>
> Try restarting your computer or delete your browser's history and or
> cookies.  Otherwise, does somebody manage your computer or the Web sites
> you visit? They might be preventing your access for some reason.
>
> Kind regards, Greg Feneis
> (Samsung Galaxy S5)
>
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2017 5:26 PM, "Michael Henry"  wrote:
>
> > If it never worked for anyone it would have been addressed a long time
> ago.
> >
> > I'm just Joe Blow with Comcast internet running Windows 10 and a Chrome
> > browser. And yes, everything else works fine; I have no issues with any
> > other website.
> >
> > I get:
> > This site can’t be reached
> >
> > *lists.gnucash.org * refused to connect.
> >
> > Try:
> >
> >- Checking the connection
> >
> > ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
> >
> >
> > On Dec 31, 2017 2:35 PM, "Dave H"  wrote:
> >
> > > All good for me :-)
> > >
> > > On 1 January 2018 at 08:11, Michael Henry  wrote:
> > >
> > >> This link just times out.
> > >>
> > >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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Re: Links time out

[Greg Feneis]

I tried the Web link you gave previously and it worked for me.

Try restarting your computer or delete your browser's history and or
cookies.  Otherwise, does somebody manage your computer or the Web sites
you visit? They might be preventing your access for some reason.

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Samsung Galaxy S5)



On Dec 31, 2017 5:26 PM, "Michael Henry"  wrote:

> If it never worked for anyone it would have been addressed a long time ago.
>
> I'm just Joe Blow with Comcast internet running Windows 10 and a Chrome
> browser. And yes, everything else works fine; I have no issues with any
> other website.
>
> I get:
> This site can’t be reached
>
> *lists.gnucash.org * refused to connect.
>
> Try:
>
>- Checking the connection
>
> ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED
>
>
> On Dec 31, 2017 2:35 PM, "Dave H"  wrote:
>
> > All good for me :-)
> >
> > On 1 January 2018 at 08:11, Michael Henry  wrote:
> >
> >> This link just times out.
> >>
> >> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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Re: Links time out

[Michael Henry]

If it never worked for anyone it would have been addressed a long time ago.

I'm just Joe Blow with Comcast internet running Windows 10 and a Chrome
browser. And yes, everything else works fine; I have no issues with any
other website.

I get:
This site can’t be reached

*lists.gnucash.org * refused to connect.

Try:

   - Checking the connection

ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED


On Dec 31, 2017 2:35 PM, "Dave H"  wrote:

> All good for me :-)
>
> On 1 January 2018 at 08:11, Michael Henry  wrote:
>
>> This link just times out.
>>
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Re: Links time out

[Dave H]

All good for me :-)

On 1 January 2018 at 08:11, Michael Henry  wrote:

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Links time out

[Michael Henry]

This link just times out.

https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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Re: Price Quotes - problem getting current values

[John Ralls]

> On Dec 31, 2017, at 4:42 AM, Jay Ridgley  wrote:
> 
> On 12/30/2017 11:43 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote:
>> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Jay Ridgley > > wrote:
>>Hi Y'all,
>>I just tried to obtain the current prices for my investments using
>>the Price Editor --> Get Quotes
>>The response was:
>>There was an unknown error while retrieving the price quotes.
>>How do I correct the problem?
>>I am running Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS with GnuCash 2.6.12
>>(This copy was built from rev ed11f6d+ on 2016-04-18.)
>> There is a section in the FAQ that covers this:
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_fix_a_.22system_error.22_or_.22unknown_error.22_when_getting_stock_quotes.3F
>> Note that the Finance Quote functions have been discussed a LOT on this list 
>> over the past few months due to circumstances outside of GnuCash developers' 
>> control. After you read the sections in the FAQ, if your installation is 
>> still misbehaving, you might also check the archives for this email list
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
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> Thanks Tommy,
> 
> After reading things over I tried to do some checking...
> 
> Opened a new terminal and entered the following:
> 
> sudo perl /usr/bin/gnc-fq-update
> 
> This is the error message:
> 
> Can't open perl script "/usr/bin/gnc-fq-update": No such file or directory
> 
> gnc-fq-check ran correctly and listed ("1.38"..."yahoo"...)
> 
> Do I not have the Finance::Quote package properly installed? If so how can I 
> get it, I installed/updated the following packages when my system was last 
> built:
> 
> gnucash 1:2.12-1
> gnucash-common 1:2.12-1
> gnucash-docs 2.6.12-1
> 
> /usr/bin contains several gnc-fq files but update is not one of them!

Look in the "show files" function of your distro's package manager to see if it 
got put somewhere else. If it's completely missing, beat up your distro's 
packager for leaving it out.

It's just a perl script. You can get it from 
https://raw.githubusercontent.com/Gnucash/gnucash/master/libgnucash/quotes/gnc-fq-update.in.
 You can change the name and fix the shebang or not as you please.

Or you can just do what it does directly:
sudo cpan Date::Manip Finance::Quote

Some package managers include CPAN modules, so you might be able to install 
those with your package manager as well.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: Price Quotes - problem getting current values

[Jay Ridgley]

On 12/31/2017 02:00 PM, David Carlson wrote:
For users with similar issues another place to check: 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_doesn.27t_online_quoting_work.3F


David C

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Jay Ridgley > wrote:


On 12/30/2017 11:43 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote:


On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Jay Ridgley
mailto:jridgl...@austin.rr.com>
>> wrote:

     Hi Y'all,

     I just tried to obtain the current prices for my
investments using
     the Price Editor --> Get Quotes

     The response was:

     There was an unknown error while retrieving the price quotes.

     How do I correct the problem?

     I am running Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS with GnuCash 2.6.12
     (This copy was built from rev ed11f6d+ on 2016-04-18.)


There is a section in the FAQ that covers this:


https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_fix_a_.22system_error.22_or_.22unknown_error.22_when_getting_stock_quotes.3F



Note that the Finance Quote functions have been discussed a LOT
on this list over the past few months due to circumstances
outside of GnuCash developers' control. After you read the
sections in the FAQ, if your installation is still misbehaving,
you might also check the archives for this email list

https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user


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Thanks Tommy,

After reading things over I tried to do some checking...

Opened a new terminal and entered the following:

sudo perl /usr/bin/gnc-fq-update

This is the error message:

Can't open perl script "/usr/bin/gnc-fq-update": No such file or
directory

gnc-fq-check ran correctly and listed ("1.38"..."yahoo"...)

Do I not have the Finance::Quote package properly installed? If so
how can I get it, I installed/updated the following packages when my
system was last built:

gnucash 1:2.12-1
gnucash-common 1:2.12-1
gnucash-docs 2.6.12-1

/usr/bin contains several gnc-fq files but update is not one of them!

Ideas?

Jay
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Thanks David,

The latest version of libfinance-quote-perl that I have available is 
1.38. Where can I obtain 1.41 or later that is compatible with my system 
  Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS with GnuCash 2.6.12 (This copy was built from rev 
ed11f6d+ on 2016-04-18.)?


Cheers, Jay

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Re: Price Quotes - problem getting current values

[David Carlson]

For users with similar issues another place to check:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_Why_doesn.27t_online_quoting_work.3F

David C

On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 6:42 AM, Jay Ridgley 
wrote:

> On 12/30/2017 11:43 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote:
>
>>
>> On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Jay Ridgley > > wrote:
>>
>> Hi Y'all,
>>
>> I just tried to obtain the current prices for my investments using
>> the Price Editor --> Get Quotes
>>
>> The response was:
>>
>> There was an unknown error while retrieving the price quotes.
>>
>> How do I correct the problem?
>>
>> I am running Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS with GnuCash 2.6.12
>> (This copy was built from rev ed11f6d+ on 2016-04-18.)
>>
>>
>> There is a section in the FAQ that covers this:
>>
>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_fix_a_.22syste
>> m_error.22_or_.22unknown_error.22_when_getting_stock_quotes.3F
>>
>> Note that the Finance Quote functions have been discussed a LOT on this
>> list over the past few months due to circumstances outside of GnuCash
>> developers' control. After you read the sections in the FAQ, if your
>> installation is still misbehaving, you might also check the archives for
>> this email list
>>
>> https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user
>>
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>>
>> Thanks Tommy,
>
> After reading things over I tried to do some checking...
>
> Opened a new terminal and entered the following:
>
> sudo perl /usr/bin/gnc-fq-update
>
> This is the error message:
>
> Can't open perl script "/usr/bin/gnc-fq-update": No such file or directory
>
> gnc-fq-check ran correctly and listed ("1.38"..."yahoo"...)
>
> Do I not have the Finance::Quote package properly installed? If so how can
> I get it, I installed/updated the following packages when my system was
> last built:
>
> gnucash 1:2.12-1
> gnucash-common 1:2.12-1
> gnucash-docs 2.6.12-1
>
> /usr/bin contains several gnc-fq files but update is not one of them!
>
> Ideas?
>
> Jay
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> jridgley2 at austin.rr.com
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GnuCash 2.7.3 Released

[John Ralls]

The Gnucash Development Team is pleased to release Gnucash 2.7.3, the fourth 
release of an unstable series leading to Gnucash 3.0

Notice that we've decided that beginning with the upcoming major release we 
will use two-digit release numbers and that the next stable release will be 
3.0. Maintenance releases will be 3.1, 3.2, etc. The next unstable release will 
be 3.900 and will lead to 4.0.

This release is UNSTABLE and SHOULD NOT BE USED in production.

This release changes file locations, binding APIs, report options, and can make 
your data file no longer compatible with previous versions. See the Update 
Notes Page for details.

See the KNOWN PROBLEMS list at the bottom of the announcement.

With this release we set feature freeze and string freeze. Translators and 
documentors are implored to begin work so that the localization and 
documentation will be ready for the 3.0 release.

New Features for Users

• A greatly enhanced Transaction report with many new options and 
features including a reconciliation report thanks to Chris Lam.
• Removed 6-figure rounding from price calculations, allowing prices to 
have up to 18 digit precision.
• A flatter storage scheme for Bayes account-matching scores, thanks to 
Aaron Laws. This is a compatibility change guarded by a feature.
• GnuCash no longer supports Guile-1.8 and now does support Guile-2.2
• A CSV Price importer, thanks to Bob Fewell.
• Enhanced python bindings exposing more GnuCash API thanks to Guy 
Taylor
Bugs fixed in this release

• Bug 616709 - Pressing delete key while editing account name offers to 
delete account.
• Bug 771667 - Change reconciled splits warning.
This patch displays two distinct warnings when changing protected fields of a 
transaction that contains reconciled splits. If the fields date, num and 
description are changed, then the warning list the accounts that have 
reconciled splits and also advises that they will be unreconciled after editing 
the transaction. If the fields account, transfer, debit or credit are changed 
then the warning advises that the split will be unreconciled after editing the 
transaction. There is still just one warning preference as it is all to do with 
fields protected by reconciliation.

• Bug 787497 - Disabling options cripples dist package
PARTIAL FIX: WITH_OFX, WITH_SQL and WITH_AQBANKING handling is fixed. The dist 
files for these features are always included in the dist tarball.

• Bug 790526 - Mathematical bug.
• Bug 791848 - GC 2.6.x does not handle ISO dates introduced with GC 
2.7.
Set a feature to prevent versions older that 2.6.20 from loading a database 
from which they cannot read the dates. Ideally we would do this only if the 
database is written to, but the current persistence design includes committing 
back to the database during the load so the net effect is that the flag would 
be set anyway. This is a compatibility change guarded by a feature.

Some other fixes not associated with reported bugs:

• Tests now pass in all timezones.
• More dialogs are made "transient for" so that they pop up centered on 
the main Gnucash window instead of somewhere on the left edge of the screen.
• A lot of Gtk3 issues and errors are fixed, thanks to Bob Fewell.
• Test struct tm* returns from gnc_gmtime and gnc_localtime to ensure 
that we don't crash for dereffing a nullptr.
• Removed the gnc:numeric type from Scheme code in favor of Scheme's 
own rational numbers. This allows direct conversion between Scheme numbers and 
gnc_numeric without the performance or accuracy penalties arising from using 
doubles as an intermediary.
• Pass KVP paths as a collection of elements instead of a delimited 
string. This allows keys to contain '/'. Thanks to Aaron Laws.
• Added a frameowrk for migrating preferences.
• Made separate functions for finding a widget's parent window: 
gnc_ui_get_gtk_window tries to find the immediate parent and 
gnc_ui_get_main_window tries to find the widget's parent toplevel, returning 
the first-mapped window.
• Make the splash/lock screen the transient parent for dialog boxes if 
the main window is not yet mapped.
• Rework directory determination in CMake builds.
Sets paths for finding componenents depending on the state of ENABLE_BINRELOC, 
GNC_UNINSTALLED, GNC_BUILDDIR and whether any install paths have been set 
outside of CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX.

GNUInstallDirs changes the name of CMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR depending on the 
operating system and distro. When CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX is /usr, /usr/local, or 
any subdirectory of /opt it also changes CMAKE_INSTALL_FULL_SYSCONFDIR to /etc. 
An earlier commit by Aaron Laws mirrors the name of CMAKE_INSTALL_LIBDIR to the 
build library directory.

It's possible for builders to set any of the install directories anywhere they 
please. Setting any directory outside of CMAK

Re: Company sponsored stock plan

[Mike or Penny Novack]

On 12/30/2017 4:39 PM, Klaus Dahlke wrote:

Hi Wolfgang,
I have modeled a comparable plan as follows: first of all, I record my salary 
only net. Salary is what is posted to my bank account after all deductions.

I you don't participate in such plan, posting is straight forward, e.g.:
Bank <-> Income:salary -> 1000

If you participate in the plan, a further account is helpful to show the plan 
contribution. Also, the amount transferred from your company to your bank is 
reduced by your own contribution and the taxation for companies' addition.
Stop --- this advice depends on jurisdiction (in the US, the 
contributions if "pretax" are taxed only at distribution time many years 
down the road). But there may be other complications. The employer 
contribution is usually "conditional" becoming vested over time.


 Accounting for a 401k is complicated.

I'm at the other end of this process. But were I using gnucash during 
the money going in phase I probably would account for the 401k on a 
separate set of books. Like I said, the "net worth" of a 401k depends on 
lots of things like vesting and current age (can money be received 
without penalty tax in addition) and even can be conditional on why 
money taken out, and whether taken out or borrowed (if the plan allows 
that)


Michael D Novack

Michael D Novack
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Re: 2018?

[Mike or Penny Novack]

On 12/30/2017 3:54 PM, Kelly Sandwell wrote:

What do I need to do to use your gnucash in 2018?  I have used it this year
(2017) and I am very impressed.  I don't know much about accounting but my
tax preparer was very happy with the reports I showed him a month ago.

  Thanks,

Kelly Sandwell
You don't HAVE to do anything. Gnucash can continue to produce reports 
for the "current year" as long as you correctly specify the date or date 
range for the report. You don't HAVE to do a "close the books" (whether 
you would want to depends among other things how you look at your data**).


That said I suggest:
a) Even if you don't do this regularly, make a back up copy of the file, 
ideally onto removable medium so could go somewhere safe.
b) I would also make a copy of the file incorporating the new year in 
its name, and from now on use that new file. That will make a whole lot 
of things easier (like SAFELY getting rid of old of all log files etc. 
since the NAMES of these will be different). Also your old file is a 
backup (of state at year end) handy on your machine (as opposed to the 
one you sent for safekeeping off site*)


Michael D Novack

* If I seem to be overly worried about this, we had a house fire in 
2006, where just one room burned but backups were not far enough away to 
escape heat/smoke damage.


** IF you want the balances of the temporary accounts (income and 
expense) to reflect the current year as opposed to just using reports is 
one of those factors that might decide you on doing a "close the books". 
If you do do "close the books" either using the facility or manually I 
suggest you make backups before and after, named according << like 
"beforeclose2017" and "afterclose2017" because you can't rerun an 
"Income Statement" report after.



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Re: Price Quotes - problem getting current values

[Jay Ridgley]

On 12/30/2017 11:43 PM, Tommy Trussell wrote:


On Sat, Dec 30, 2017 at 5:17 PM, Jay Ridgley > wrote:


Hi Y'all,

I just tried to obtain the current prices for my investments using
the Price Editor --> Get Quotes

The response was:

There was an unknown error while retrieving the price quotes.

How do I correct the problem?

I am running Ubuntu 16.04.3 LTS with GnuCash 2.6.12
(This copy was built from rev ed11f6d+ on 2016-04-18.)


There is a section in the FAQ that covers this:

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_How_do_I_fix_a_.22system_error.22_or_.22unknown_error.22_when_getting_stock_quotes.3F

Note that the Finance Quote functions have been discussed a LOT on this 
list over the past few months due to circumstances outside of GnuCash 
developers' control. After you read the sections in the FAQ, if your 
installation is still misbehaving, you might also check the archives for 
this email list


https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user

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Thanks Tommy,

After reading things over I tried to do some checking...

Opened a new terminal and entered the following:

sudo perl /usr/bin/gnc-fq-update

This is the error message:

Can't open perl script "/usr/bin/gnc-fq-update": No such file or directory

gnc-fq-check ran correctly and listed ("1.38"..."yahoo"...)

Do I not have the Finance::Quote package properly installed? If so how 
can I get it, I installed/updated the following packages when my system 
was last built:


gnucash 1:2.12-1
gnucash-common 1:2.12-1
gnucash-docs 2.6.12-1

/usr/bin contains several gnc-fq files but update is not one of them!

Ideas?

Jay
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