Re: [GNC] Balsheet-eg.scm problem

[Stephen M. Butler]

On 08/25/2018 02:15 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:

> Having said all that my original question was what problems you had when
> setting up the report as decribed in
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports#Loading_Your_Report
> With that I meant what problems did you encounter when storing *all three 
> files* in $HOME/.local/share/gnucash and creating a load file in 

I hadn't picked up that the files had to be in that folder.  So had left
them in the report folder.
> $HOME/.config/gnucash called config-user.scm with this content:
> (load (gnc-build-userdata-path "balsheet-fmtd.scm"))

I had given the path to the report folder.
>
> This works equally well on my system and is recommended.
>
> So what issues do you get when setting up the reports in your home directory ?

It appears to be ignored. 

I moved the three files to $HOME/.local/share/gnucash (bold in the below
list):

$ pwd
/home/steve/.local/share/gnucash
$ ls -l
total 164
-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve 19148 Aug 25 21:03 accelerator-map
*-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve 11472 Aug 25 20:58 balsheet-fmtd.eguile.scm**
**-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve 33386 Aug 25 20:58 balsheet-fmtd.scm**
**d*rwxrwxr-x 2 steve steve  4096 Jul  1 19:03 books-rw-r--r-- 1 steve
steve  1240 Aug 25 20:58 stylesheet-reports.css
-drwxrwxr-x 2 steve steve  4096 Jun 22 12:38 checks
-rw-rw-r-- 1 steve steve 0 Aug 25 21:03 expressions-2.0
-rw-rw-r-- 1 steve steve  7877 Aug 13 11:00 saved-reports-2.8
-rw-rw-r-- 1 steve steve  3121 Aug 13 11:00 saved-reports-2.8-backup
*-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve  1240 Aug 25 20:58 stylesheet-reports.css**
**-*rw-rw-r-- 1 steve steve  1614 Aug 25 21:03 stylesheets-2.0
drwxrwxr-x 2 steve steve  4096 Jun 22 12:38 translog

Created the gnucash folder and config.user file in .config:

$ pwd
/home/steve/.config/gnucash
$ ls -l
total 12
-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve 53 Aug 25 20:56 config.user
$ cat config.user
(load (gnc-build-userdata-path "balsheet-fmtd.scm"))


The report isn't loaded and there is no error message. 
gnucash --logto stdout

(gnucash:5078): Gtk-WARNING **: 21:00:39.924: Theme parsing error:
gtk.css:1278:13: The 'icon-shadow' property has been renamed to
'-gtk-icon-shadow'

(gnucash:5078): Gtk-WARNING **: 21:00:39.924: Theme parsing error:
gtk.css:1281:15: The 'icon-shadow' property has been renamed to
'-gtk-icon-shadow'
;;; note: source file
/usr/local/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/report/business-reports.scm
;;;   newer than compiled
/usr/local/lib/gnucash/scm/ccache/2.0/gnucash/report/business-reports.go
;;; found fresh local cache at
/home/steve/.cache/guile/ccache/2.0-LE-8-2.0/usr/local/share/gnucash/scm/gnucash/report/business-reports.scm.go



Sorry to be so dense but I'm obviously missing something.
--Steve

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Re: [GNC] Fixed Asset Budgeting tutorial

[David Cousens]

David,

I don't know of any tutorials but budgeting around fixed assets would have
to be based on their potential income generating capacity in the period
being budgeted for including returns like rent or lease returns or dividends
for securities held - less  any maintenace expenditure and costs (e.g
depreciation, repair and maintenance etc) incurred in the budget period in
generating those returns. You could also consider the potential gains and
losses as a result fo selling long term assets.

If you have historical data, then that is a good point to start from and
then modify on the basis of what you expect changes to be from the
historical values to the current period. If you have no histoical data to
base your budget on then you have to do a lot more research to get some idea
of wht future period data might be. In some cases you can look at
relationships to relevant economic indicators.

While not a tutorial for GnuCash as such, sites like
http://www.businessplanhut.com/calculating-fixed-assets-budget can give you
some insights. Most of your budget preparation is likely to be outside
GnuCash in any case (apart from extraction of historical data) and Gnucash
will only record the outcomes of such calculations for you to eveluate the
future performance against.


David Cousens

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Re: [GNC] Veihicle mileage cost such in HomeBank?

[Mike or Penny Novack]

On 8/25/2018 2:32 PM, Riccardo Delpopolo Carciopolo wrote:

Hello Rich,

thank you for the extended explanation!
I think I would end to use a simple spreadsheet as you suggest.

Regards


HOWEVER (since this might be useful for others)

I use a spreadsheet for mileage since we want to be able to have totals 
by category. Medical and non-profit for taxes and we track civic and 
political too just to see how much driving we do for those. That few 
number of columns easy to do/print from a spread sheet.


In spite of the fact that gnucash is an accounting package, this could 
provide a simple example of using  "virtual books". Imagine for just a 
moment that there was a country whose currency was "miles". You could 
set up a very funny partial set of books. Instead of fundamental types 
asset, liability, equity, income, and expense suppose you did away with 
all but income and expense (technically those are of fundamental type 
equity). Under Income would be just a single account called "total 
miles". Under Expense would be an account for each mileage category you 
wanted to track plus one miscellaneous for other trips. The only report 
you would run would be the income statement. Your transactions are just 
total miles (income) allocated to the category (expense) << a single 
trip MIGHT need a split if for more than one purpose >>


If you only have a few categories, I'd use a spread sheet. But those can 
be annoying when MANY columns wide. Let's suppose that you did 
contracting jobs, perhaps a dozen or two every year, or even more. And 
suppose each of these had mileage associated with it. And suppose you 
wanted to track all of this << see how much mileage for each job" >>  
Now using gnucash in the "funny" way might seem attractive.


Michael

Michael D Novack

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Re: [GNC] Veihicle mileage cost such in HomeBank?

[John Ralls]

LibreOffice is free as in liberty, being released under the Mozilla Public 
License. Its grandfather, StarOffice, was free as in beer having had a 
look-but-don’t-touch license; Sun Microsystems (now part of Oracle) bought it 
and released it as OpenOffice under the LGPL. OpenOffice is now  under the 
Apache Foundation umbrella and uses the Apache license.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 25, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Rich Shepard  wrote:
> 
> On Sat, 25 Aug 2018, Riccardo Delpopolo Carciopolo wrote:
> 
>> thank you for the extended explanation!
>> I think I would end to use a simple spreadsheet as you suggest.
> 
> Riccardo,
> 
>  It is common for users to not be aware of the appropriate tool for a
> specific task. The choices can be overwhelming and there seem to be few
> guidelines on what to use.
> 
>  The LibreOffice suite has an excellent spreadsheet (called Calc) and the
> application is completely free (as in beer) because it's open source
> software. Runs on linux, OSX, and Windows .
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> Rich
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Re: [GNC] Veihicle mileage cost such in HomeBank?

[Mike Reinehr]

My favorite Android app for this is Fuelio. In addition to mileage 
tracking it also can import/export csv files so it's easy to use a 
spreadsheet.


HTH


On 08/25/2018 01:53 PM, George Riner wrote:

There is a very nice app in the Google play store for tracking mileage . It's 
called aCar.


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On August 25, 2018 11:41:29 AM PDT, Rich Shepard  
wrote:

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018, Riccardo Delpopolo Carciopolo wrote:


thank you for the extended explanation!
I think I would end to use a simple spreadsheet as you suggest.

Riccardo,

   It is common for users to not be aware of the appropriate tool for a
specific task. The choices can be overwhelming and there seem to be few
guidelines on what to use.

The LibreOffice suite has an excellent spreadsheet (called Calc) and
the
application is completely free (as in beer) because it's open source
software. Runs on linux, OSX, and Windows
.

Best regards,

Rich
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Re: [GNC] Veihicle mileage cost such in HomeBank?

[George Riner]

There is a very nice app in the Google play store for tracking mileage . It's 
called aCar.


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On August 25, 2018 11:41:29 AM PDT, Rich Shepard  
wrote:
>On Sat, 25 Aug 2018, Riccardo Delpopolo Carciopolo wrote:
>
>> thank you for the extended explanation!
>> I think I would end to use a simple spreadsheet as you suggest.
>
>Riccardo,
>
>   It is common for users to not be aware of the appropriate tool for a
>specific task. The choices can be overwhelming and there seem to be few
>guidelines on what to use.
>
>The LibreOffice suite has an excellent spreadsheet (called Calc) and
>the
>application is completely free (as in beer) because it's open source
>software. Runs on linux, OSX, and Windows
>.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Rich
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Re: [GNC] Veihicle mileage cost such in HomeBank?

[Rich Shepard]

On Sat, 25 Aug 2018, Riccardo Delpopolo Carciopolo wrote:


thank you for the extended explanation!
I think I would end to use a simple spreadsheet as you suggest.


Riccardo,

  It is common for users to not be aware of the appropriate tool for a
specific task. The choices can be overwhelming and there seem to be few
guidelines on what to use.

  The LibreOffice suite has an excellent spreadsheet (called Calc) and the
application is completely free (as in beer) because it's open source
software. Runs on linux, OSX, and Windows .

Best regards,

Rich
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Re: [GNC] Veihicle mileage cost such in HomeBank?

[Riccardo Delpopolo Carciopolo]

Hello Rich,

thank you for the extended explanation!
I think I would end to use a simple spreadsheet as you suggest.

Regards

Il giorno sab 25 ago 2018 alle ore 20:28 Rich Shepard <
rshep...@appl-ecosys.com> ha scritto:

> On Sat, 25 Aug 2018, Riccardo Delpopolo Carciopolo wrote:
>
> > Thank you for answering, but I could not understand the difference
> between
> > an accounting program and a personal finance management program. I've
> > successfully used gnucash to track my expenses for some month, but I
> > really miss a way to track the mileage of my car. Would be nice such
> > functionality.
>
> Riccardo,
>
>Tracking vehicle milage has nothing to do with finance, bookkeeping, or
> accounting. I recommend you use a spreadsheet to track the milage.
>
> > Anyway, probably I have to switch to a software that meets my needs.
>
>Your choice. For monetary data GnuCash is outstanding. For other data,
> such as vehicle milage, a spreadsheet, database, or plain text file is more
> apprpropriate.
>
>Would you consider vehicle milage an asset, expense, liability, or
> equity?
> If none of the above then it does not belong in financial software any more
> than would records of your clothing sizes.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rich
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Re: [GNC] Veihicle mileage cost such in HomeBank?

[Riccardo Delpopolo Carciopolo]

Thank you for answering, but I could not understand the difference between
an accounting program and a personal finance management program.
I've successfully used gnucash to track my expenses for some month, but I
really miss a way to track the mileage of my car.
Would be nice such functionality.

Anyway, probably I have to switch to a software that meets my needs.

Regards

Il giorno sab 25 ago 2018 alle ore 19:28 John Ralls  ha
scritto:

>
>
> > On Aug 25, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Riccardo Delpopolo Carciopolo <
> rdelpop...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I cannot find a function to track the mileage of my car such in HomeBank:
> > http://homebank.free.fr/help/use-vehiclecost.html
> > Do you have any suggestion to obtain the same behaviour?
>
> No. GnuCash is an accounting program, not a personal finance management
> program.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Veihicle mileage cost such in HomeBank?

[John Ralls]

> On Aug 25, 2018, at 8:38 AM, Riccardo Delpopolo Carciopolo 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I cannot find a function to track the mileage of my car such in HomeBank:
> http://homebank.free.fr/help/use-vehiclecost.html
> Do you have any suggestion to obtain the same behaviour?

No. GnuCash is an accounting program, not a personal finance management program.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] GC 3.2 Import Price File CSV

[Deva -]

That's a bummer! And I am out of ideas...

Perhaps a developer can shed some light on your problems...

Cheers.

On Friday 24 August 2018 08:05 PM, 
gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:

Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2018 01:48:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Megagrumpy 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] GC 3.2 Import Price File CSV
Message-ID: 
<1535093332487-0.p...@n4.nabble.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

There are no spaces in the stock definition. Also in answer to your question
about the date format. I have tried all the date formats and I never get a
failure to read the date correctly. When I import data in quicken format
from my bank it tends to be in M-D-Y format for some reason.

I have also followed your advice and generated a completely new GC file with
only one stock in it. I have put in ABF under Eurex as the default format
only shows Amex, Eurex, Nasdaq and NYSE as options for the "Type" of stock.
(My stocks are all LSE so I had added LSE as an additional type in my
definitions and thought that maybe that was causing the problem). I get
exactly the same problem with the message "Commodity From could not be
understood. Value can't be parsed into valid commodity."




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Re: [GNC] Balsheet-eg.scm problem

[Geert Janssens]

Op zaterdag 25 augustus 2018 02:11:38 CEST schreef Stephen M. Butler:
> On 08/24/2018 12:40 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:
> > Op donderdag 23 augustus 2018 19:35:43 CEST schreef Stephen M. Butler:
> >> On 08/23/2018 09:44 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:
> >>> Better still: don't mess with the installation directory at all and
> >>> instead
> >>> follow
> >>> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports#Loading_Your_Report
> >>> to load your custom report.
> >> 
> >> I tried that path and it didn't work.  One of these days I'll figure out
> >> what I did wrong there.  But, if the above will work then I'm willing to
> >> suffer making the changes for each new release.
> > 
> > What error did you get in this case ? I expect it to be different and
> > related to the location of the associated *-eguile.scm and/or *.css file
> > ?
> > 
> > Geert
> 
> moved balsheet-fmtd.scm and balsheet-fmtd.eguild.scm to standard-reports
> folder.  Commented out the line for balsheet-fmtd in
> business-reports.scm to get back to the state where I had the problems. 
> These error messages:
> 
> gnucash --logto stdout
> 
> (gnucash:10123): Gtk-WARNING **: 16:57:47.073: Theme parsing error:
> gtk.css:1278:13: The 'icon-shadow' property has been renamed to
> '-gtk-icon-shadow'
> 
> (gnucash:10123): Gtk-WARNING **: 16:57:47.073: Theme parsing error:
> gtk.css:1281:15: The 'icon-shadow' property has been renamed to
> '-gtk-icon-shadow'
> Backtrace:
> In ice-9/eval-string.scm:
>   44: 19 [read-and-eval # #:lang ...]
>   37: 18 [lp (use-modules (gnucash report standard-reports))]
> In ice-9/eval.scm:
>  505: 17 [#
> (use-modules #)]
> In ice-9/psyntax.scm:
> 1106: 16 [expand-top-sequence ((use-modules #)) () ((top)) ...]
>  989: 15 [scan ((use-modules (gnucash report standard-reports))) () ...]
>  279: 14 [scan ((# #) #(syntax-object *unspecified* # #)) () (()) ...]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 3589: 13 [process-use-modules (((gnucash report standard-reports)))]
>  705: 12 [map # (mif-args)> ((#))]
> 3590: 11 [# (mif-args)> (#)]
> 2867: 10 [resolve-interface (gnucash report standard-reports) #:select ...]
> 2792: 9 [# #:optional autoload version #:key ensure)> # ...]
> 3068: 8 [try-module-autoload (gnucash report standard-reports) #f]
> 2404: 7 [save-module-excursion # ice-9/boot-9.scm:3069:17 ()>]
> 3088: 6 [#]
> In unknown file:
>?: 5 [primitive-load-path "gnucash/report/standard-reports" ...]
> In standard-reports.scm:
>  149: 4 [#]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>  771: 3 [for-each # (x)> #]
> In standard-reports.scm:
>  153: 2 [#
> balsheet-fmtd.eguile]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 2870: 1 [resolve-interface (gnucash report standard-reports ...)
> #:select ...]
> In unknown file:
>?: 0 [scm-error misc-error #f ...]
> 
> ERROR: In procedure scm-error:
> ERROR: no code for module (gnucash report standard-reports
> balsheet-fmtd.eguile)
> 
> Now, put the line back into business-reports.scm but pointing down to
> standard-reports:
> (use-modules (gnucash report standard-reports balsheet-fmtd))
> 
> and see these errors:
> gnucash --logto stdout
> 
> (gnucash:10175): Gtk-WARNING **: 17:04:08.548: Theme parsing error:
> gtk.css:1278:13: The 'icon-shadow' property has been renamed to
> '-gtk-icon-shadow'
> 
> (gnucash:10175): Gtk-WARNING **: 17:04:08.548: Theme parsing error:
> gtk.css:1281:15: The 'icon-shadow' property has been renamed to
> '-gtk-icon-shadow'
> Backtrace:
> In ice-9/eval-string.scm:
>   44: 19 [read-and-eval # #:lang ...]
>   37: 18 [lp (use-modules (gnucash report standard-reports))]
> In ice-9/eval.scm:
>  505: 17 [#
> (use-modules #)]
> In ice-9/psyntax.scm:
> 1106: 16 [expand-top-sequence ((use-modules #)) () ((top)) ...]
>  989: 15 [scan ((use-modules (gnucash report standard-reports))) () ...]
>  279: 14 [scan ((# #) #(syntax-object *unspecified* # #)) () (()) ...]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 3589: 13 [process-use-modules (((gnucash report standard-reports)))]
>  705: 12 [map # (mif-args)> ((#))]
> 3590: 11 [# (mif-args)> (#)]
> 2867: 10 [resolve-interface (gnucash report standard-reports) #:select ...]
> 2792: 9 [# #:optional autoload version #:key ensure)> # ...]
> 3068: 8 [try-module-autoload (gnucash report standard-reports) #f]
> 2404: 7 [save-module-excursion # ice-9/boot-9.scm:3069:17 ()>]
> 3088: 6 [#]
> In unknown file:
>?: 5 [primitive-load-path "gnucash/report/standard-reports" ...]
> In standard-reports.scm:
>  149: 4 [#]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>  771: 3 [for-each # (x)> #]
> In standard-reports.scm:
>  153: 2 [#
> balsheet-fmtd.eguile]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 2870: 1 [resolve-interface (gnucash report standard-reports ...)
> #:select ...]
> In unknown file:
>?: 0 [scm-error misc-error #f ...]
> 
> ERROR: In procedure scm-error:
> ERROR: no code for module (gnucash report standard-reports
> balsheet-fmtd.eguile)
> 
> 
These errors make sense. Let me explain:

An eguile report consists of 3 files
- the report code (foo.scm)
- the report template (foo.eguile.scm)
- the report style definition (foo.css)

The report