Re: [GNC] Manint Brach on GitHub

2018-12-05 Thread Geert Janssens
Op donderdag 6 december 2018 03:48:22 CET schreef stephen.m.butler51:
> I'll see if I can grab the 3.3 branch.

I understand what you want to say here, however it occurs to me there's still 
some confusion on how git works. So I'll take the liberty to elaborate a bit 
on that. There is no 3.3 "branch". Releases are "tagged" instead so there will 
be a 3.3 tag you can check out.

A "branch" is a moving target that always points at last commit of a chain of 
commits. You can add new commits to this chain, which will move the branch to 
the new last commit of that chain.

A tag on the other hand is used to mark very specific commits which are not 
necessarily the last one in a chain. As releases are fixed moments in time, it 
makes sense to use tags to mark releases. And branches on the other hand track 
ongoing work (either maintenance work on the "maint" branch or new development 
work on the "master" branch or even intermediate work on feature branches, 
though these are used only in user's personal repository clones).

Regards,

Geert


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[GNC] Transfer column gone?

2018-12-05 Thread Gerry Starnes
Trying to adjust to 3.3 in Mac OS, I was resizing the columns and the
Transfer column in one of my tabs has vanished. How do I get it back?

Gerry S
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Re: [GNC] Manint Brach on GitHub

2018-12-05 Thread stephen.m.butler51
I'll see if I can grab the 3.3 branch.


Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: John Ralls  Date: 
12/5/18  18:17  (GMT-08:00) To: "Stephen M. Butler"  Cc: 
GnuCash users group  Subject: Re: [GNC] Manint Brach 
on GitHub 


> On Dec 5, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Stephen M. Butler  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Is the maint branch (3.3-153) the official 3.3 release?
> 
> I see that master branch is at 3.3-159.  I presume that is the current work 
> for 3.4.

No, 3.3 is the official 3.3 release. 3.3-153 would be 153 commits after the 3.3 
tag. Maint and master are actually at the same level, I just merged 
maint->master a couple of days ago and I don’t think there have been any 
commits since. The difference in the release counts is because of the merge 
commits on master.

We release the stable branch off of maint; master is for development leading to 
4.0. We just haven’t had time to do any development for 4.0 yet because we’ve 
been too busy getting 3.x settled down.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Install Gnucash on Debian

2018-12-05 Thread Andrew Clark
I'm pretty sure I installed 3.3 from the unstable Debian repo:
https://packages.debian.org/sid/gnucash

You will need to do some hunting of you wish to just install a single
package from unstable, but it is possible.


On Thu., 6 Dec. 2018, 10:10 Stephen M. Butler  On 12/5/18 2:20 PM, Mike stagl wrote:
> > I realized I had installed GnuCash on my Debian system using apt-get and
> a repository.  The latest version for which this works is 2.6.15.
> >
> > How do I install GnuCash 3.3 or higher on my Debian system? I'm hoping
> the answer isn't to build my own with cmake... I've never done that before
> and am a little intimidated by the process and checking dependancies.
> >
> > Is it possible to download the Ubuntu .deb? Would that work, in theory?
> >
> > Thanks to all the contributors,
> >
> > Mike
> > _
>
> I am not aware of a .deb version to install.  It wasn't that hard to go
> through the build page and compile my own.  There were a couple of
> hickups along the way but the folks here were great about helping.
>
> Start with this page and work down section by section:
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux
>
> Be sure to follow the referenced pages to get the build tools and
> dependency list.  I copied them line by line and ran in a terminal
> environment.  I haven't taken the time to build a shell script to load
> them all.
>
> holler on the list if  you run into problems.  I'm using a patched 3.3
> on Ubuntu 18.04.
>
> --Steve
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Re: [GNC] Manint Brach on GitHub

2018-12-05 Thread John Ralls


> On Dec 5, 2018, at 4:59 PM, Stephen M. Butler  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Is the maint branch (3.3-153) the official 3.3 release?
> 
> I see that master branch is at 3.3-159.  I presume that is the current work 
> for 3.4.

No, 3.3 is the official 3.3 release. 3.3-153 would be 153 commits after the 3.3 
tag. Maint and master are actually at the same level, I just merged 
maint->master a couple of days ago and I don’t think there have been any 
commits since. The difference in the release counts is because of the merge 
commits on master.

We release the stable branch off of maint; master is for development leading to 
4.0. We just haven’t had time to do any development for 4.0 yet because we’ve 
been too busy getting 3.x settled down.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Install Gnucash on Debian

2018-12-05 Thread David Cousens
Mike,

Steve mentioned he hadn't put the build environment and dependencies into a
script. The attached is a script which I use for setting up the build on
Linux Mint 19 for Gnucash V3.3. My system was a brand new minimal
installation of Linux MInt so it should have captured all the dependencies.
Debian may differ slightly from Linux Mint in the libraries which are
installed with the system and its base load of software. If there are any I
have missed, cmake throws up an error if the libraries or development
headers are not present, usually identifying the package that is missing. If
you have any problems just come back to the forum with any error messages.
It's not particularly sophisticated and you have to enter the password for
sudo initiallyand answer any questions the installation throws up, usually
just a confirmation "y". You have to set execute permission on it i.e. 

$chmod +x gnucash-development-depndency-setup.sh 

and then execute at the terminal prompt open at a directory containing the
script

$./gnucash-development-depndency-setup.sh

gnucash-development-depndency-setup.sh

  

It follows the Building On Linux page build setup and dependency information

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Mac OS cursor positioning

2018-12-05 Thread John Ralls
I don’t see any effect from having the menu bar hide itself. The problem with 
the tab bar is https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/1029 
.

As a general statement, though, the way Gtk converts between its own 
coordinates and MacOS’s coordinates isn’t at present able to deal with any 
extra decorations in the window and has some trouble handling rescaling the 
display. It works best if you avoid those issues.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Dec 5, 2018, at 4:56 PM, Vinayak Vatsal  wrote:
> 
> No, I am not.
> 
> The config that seems to work is to turn turn off all the bells and whistles, 
> including the tab bar in GnuCash.
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 1:23 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 9:30 AM, V. Vatsal via gnucash-user 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> There have been several posts over time (including my own) about problems 
>>> with cursor positioning in Mac OS.
>>> 
>>> I thought I had this problem solved, but it seems to have come back.
>>> 
>>> Here are some things that seem to be relevant, in case a developer is 
>>> looking in to it.
>>> 
>>> i) The "open new windows in tabs" in system preferences is implicated. This 
>>> setting seems to have been changed or reset in Mojave; it's now called 
>>> "prefer tabs when opening documents" (can't remember what it was before) 
>>> and by default it seems to be set to "in full screen only"
>>> 
>>> ii) GnuCash has a show tab bar option in the window management. Turning 
>>> this on seems to cause problems.
>>> 
>>> iii) Using the Mac OS option to hide and show the menu bar automatically 
>>> seems to cause problems.
>>> 
>>> I solved my most current instance of this problem (in GnuCash 3.3) by 
>>> playing around with (i) and (ii).
>> 
>> Are you running GnuCash in full-screen?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>> 
> 

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Re: [GNC] Ubuntu 18.04 deb package

2018-12-05 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 12/5/18 5:17 PM, Stephen M. Butler wrote:
Warning -- this is my first foray into creating a .deb package. 
Beware, it worked on my machine.  It will probably fail on yours! 
<>


I used checkinstall to create the package (and have it install on my 
machine).  I accepted all the defaults for cmake and make.  So you 
will need to install the package as root. (sudo xxx)


This was done on Ubuntu 18.04.  Let me know how it works for you. I'd 
be especially wary if your Debian is not Ubuntu 18.04.


3.3-153 is from the "maint" branch from GnuCash on GitHub.

3.3-159 if from the "master" branch from same.

Again -- beware, I probably don't know what I'm doing (but not yet 
convinced of that).


--Steve

PS  Let me know how your mileage went

Well, I tried to send it.  It was blocked.  If anybody wants either of 
the files, email me and I can attempt to send them direct.


gnucash_3.3-159-1_amd64.deb

gnucash_3.3-153-1_amd64.deb

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[GNC] Manint Brach on GitHub

2018-12-05 Thread Stephen M. Butler

John,

Is the maint branch (3.3-153) the official 3.3 release?

I see that master branch is at 3.3-159.  I presume that is the current 
work for 3.4.


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Re: [GNC] Mac OS cursor positioning

2018-12-05 Thread Vinayak Vatsal via gnucash-user
No, I am not.

The config that seems to work is to turn turn off all the bells and whistles, 
including the tab bar in GnuCash.

> On Dec 5, 2018, at 1:23 PM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 9:30 AM, V. Vatsal via gnucash-user 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> There have been several posts over time (including my own) about problems 
>> with cursor positioning in Mac OS.
>> 
>> I thought I had this problem solved, but it seems to have come back.
>> 
>> Here are some things that seem to be relevant, in case a developer is 
>> looking in to it.
>> 
>> i) The "open new windows in tabs" in system preferences is implicated. This 
>> setting seems to have been changed or reset in Mojave; it's now called 
>> "prefer tabs when opening documents" (can't remember what it was before) and 
>> by default it seems to be set to "in full screen only"
>> 
>> ii) GnuCash has a show tab bar option in the window management. Turning this 
>> on seems to cause problems.
>> 
>> iii) Using the Mac OS option to hide and show the menu bar automatically 
>> seems to cause problems.
>> 
>> I solved my most current instance of this problem (in GnuCash 3.3) by 
>> playing around with (i) and (ii).
> 
> Are you running GnuCash in full-screen?
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls
> 

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Re: [GNC] GNUCash never starts over forwarded X session

2018-12-05 Thread Andrew Clark
Yes, when I'm home I use GNUCash on the machine and it works fine. I'm only
tryign to use the frowarded session because I'm away at the moment. I've
previously done this and it worked fine.

On Thu, 6 Dec 2018 at 10:43, John Ralls  wrote:

>
>
> > On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Andrew Clark  wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I used to be able to forward gnucash over ssh to a local xming server.
> >
> > It seems since upgrading to GnuCash 3.3 Build ID:  3.3+ (2018-09-29) I
> can
> > no longer do this. The program starts, the splash screen displays, but
> the
> > status message stays on gnucash/engine forever.
> >
> > I'm running buster/sid Debian on the server end, forwarding the X session
> > via ssh to Xming 6.9.0.31 running on Windows 10.
> >
> > I've also tried forwarding Xnest and then running GNUCash in that, but
> that
> > hangs at the same place.
> >
> > Any ideas where to look?
>
> Is the system you’re running GnuCash on headless? If not, does GnuCash
> start up ok when the X-server is running on the same machine?
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
>

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Re: [GNC] Adding custom reports

2018-12-05 Thread Bill Manuel

I saved the config files in plain text format:

config-user.txt

which an internet search indicated is the same as ASCII. Did not fix the 
problem.


Bill M


On 12/4/2018 4:03 PM, John Ralls wrote:



On Dec 5, 2018, at 7:32 AM, Bill Manuel  wrote:

I am unable to add custom reports to gnucash.
I use Gnucash 3.3 updated from 2.6.19 on windows 8.1.
The custom reports and configuration pages at wiki were my guides to add custom 
reports:

https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Configuration_Locations#GTK_CONFIG_HOME

I copied, then opened “Hello-world.scm” , edited the sections as described in 
the custom reports link

1. change define-module line
2. change name line
3. commented out the menu-name line
4. changed menu-tip line
5. got and pasted in a guid
6. and saved it under a new name.

In addition, I coped a report at github 
(https://github.com/dschwen/gnucash-reports/blob/master/psl-budget.scm)

I created a file in MSWord saved as config.user (then, as an alternative when 
the process failed) config-user.scm containing the lines:

(load (gnc-build-userdata-path "psl-budget.scm"))
(load (gnc-build-userdata-path "my-hello-world-.scm"))

and placed both the config file and custom.scm reports in the 
gnc_data_home/gnc_config_home folder which the configuration page indicated, 
for windows, was

C:/user/myusername/appdate/roaming/gnucash.

After doing all this, I started gnucash but neither of the customer reports 
showed up in the menus.

Don’t know if this is relevant, but the wiki-config page indicated what files 
are in GTK_config_home. My GTK_config_home (appdata/local/gtk3.0) is empty.

If someone can help, it would be appreciated.

Did you make sure to tell MSWord to save the files as plain ASCII (not UTF8!) 
text?

Regards,
John Ralls




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Re: [GNC] GNUCash never starts over forwarded X session

2018-12-05 Thread John Ralls


> On Dec 5, 2018, at 3:13 PM, Andrew Clark  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I used to be able to forward gnucash over ssh to a local xming server.
> 
> It seems since upgrading to GnuCash 3.3 Build ID:  3.3+ (2018-09-29) I can
> no longer do this. The program starts, the splash screen displays, but the
> status message stays on gnucash/engine forever.
> 
> I'm running buster/sid Debian on the server end, forwarding the X session
> via ssh to Xming 6.9.0.31 running on Windows 10.
> 
> I've also tried forwarding Xnest and then running GNUCash in that, but that
> hangs at the same place.
> 
> Any ideas where to look?

Is the system you’re running GnuCash on headless? If not, does GnuCash start up 
ok when the X-server is running on the same machine?

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Accounts do not appear in budget

2018-12-05 Thread SadhnaTrue
I do not have any transactions in the accounts. My plan was to set up a
budget for 2019 and to start recording transactions in January. It seems
backwards that I would have to create transactions before setting a budget!
I will try to show unused accounts as you suggested.



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[GNC] GNUCash never starts over forwarded X session

2018-12-05 Thread Andrew Clark
Hi,

I used to be able to forward gnucash over ssh to a local xming server.

It seems since upgrading to GnuCash 3.3 Build ID:  3.3+ (2018-09-29) I can
no longer do this. The program starts, the splash screen displays, but the
status message stays on gnucash/engine forever.

I'm running buster/sid Debian on the server end, forwarding the X session
via ssh to Xming 6.9.0.31 running on Windows 10.

I've also tried forwarding Xnest and then running GNUCash in that, but that
hangs at the same place.

Any ideas where to look?

-- 
Cheers,

Andrew.
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Re: [GNC] Install Gnucash on Debian

2018-12-05 Thread Stephen M. Butler

On 12/5/18 2:20 PM, Mike stagl wrote:

I realized I had installed GnuCash on my Debian system using apt-get and a 
repository.  The latest version for which this works is 2.6.15.

How do I install GnuCash 3.3 or higher on my Debian system? I'm hoping the 
answer isn't to build my own with cmake... I've never done that before and am a 
little intimidated by the process and checking dependancies.

Is it possible to download the Ubuntu .deb? Would that work, in theory?

Thanks to all the contributors,

Mike
_


I am not aware of a .deb version to install.  It wasn't that hard to go 
through the build page and compile my own.  There were a couple of 
hickups along the way but the folks here were great about helping.


Start with this page and work down section by section: 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Building_On_Linux


Be sure to follow the referenced pages to get the build tools and 
dependency list.  I copied them line by line and ran in a terminal 
environment.  I haven't taken the time to build a shell script to load 
them all.


holler on the list if  you run into problems.  I'm using a patched 3.3 
on Ubuntu 18.04.


--Steve


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[GNC] Install Gnucash on Debian

2018-12-05 Thread Mike stagl
I realized I had installed GnuCash on my Debian system using apt-get and a 
repository.  The latest version for which this works is 2.6.15.

How do I install GnuCash 3.3 or higher on my Debian system? I'm hoping the 
answer isn't to build my own with cmake... I've never done that before and am a 
little intimidated by the process and checking dependancies.

Is it possible to download the Ubuntu .deb? Would that work, in theory?

Thanks to all the contributors,

Mike
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Re: [GNC] How to handle a Square Transaction

2018-12-05 Thread R. Victor Klassen
What I do for Square is basically the same.  I am using invoices for the 
transactions involved.  In fact, it’s more complicated, since a few customers 
at the farmers’ market will use square while the vast majority pay cash, and we 
treat the farmers’ market as a single virtual customer.  So when part of the 
payment for a day’s market is through square, the invoice is ‘paid’ through 
square - to the Assets/Current Assets/Square Payments account - and the 
remainder is paid to petty cash.

Then when Square pays (2-3 days later) I put in a split transaction drawing it 
down from Square Payments and dividing the full amount into the amount that 
goes into the bank account and the amount that goes to Expenses/Bank Fees (I 
dion’t distinguish Square fees at the account level).  

Basically the same as below, but with the extra step of having an invoice 
involved.

> On Dec 5, 2018, at 7:16 AM, Maf. King  wrote:
> 
> Looks right to me, assuming all the account balances increase!
> 
> Maf.
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:52:08 GMT Overland Park Electric Company 
> wrote:
>> Thanks for the info.  I was actually shocked when I saw the money
>> transferred overnight.
>> I think I figured it out.
>> 
>> 
>> checking  120.00
>> credit card fees   5.00
>> job income  125.00
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:31 AM Maf. King > > wrote:
>>> OK,
>>> 
>>> Assuming Square sits on your money for a day or 2 (or longer), I would
>>> create
>>> a couple of accounts.
>>> 
>>> something like
>>> Assets:Current Assets: Square
>>> and
>>> Expenses:BankingFees:SquareCommission
>>> 
>>> Record the payment as a 3-way split  (i'm never sure about which column is
>>> which, and I don't have GC open at the moment to test)
>>> Assets:C:S+120
>>> Income  +125
>>> Expenses:B:S+5
>>> 
>>> then when square moves the money to your bank, I'd just do a simple
>>> transaction to move the 120 from Assets:Square to Assets:checking
>>> 
>>> If square don't sit on your money for more than a day, I'd just skip the
>>> new
>>> Asset account and do the 3-way txn straight into the main bank account...
>>> 
>>> HTH,
>>> Maf.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:18:00 GMT Overland Park Electric Company
>>> 
>>> wrote:
 I don't use GC to create the invoice and I only enter the transaction
>>> 
>>> when
>>> 
 I get paid.
 
 On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 4:57 AM Maf. King  wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> do you create an invoice in GC (ie. accruals) or is this all
>>> 
>>> "cash-based"
>>> 
> accounting?
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 3.3 crashes with Mojave 10.14.1

2018-12-05 Thread John Ralls



> On Dec 5, 2018, at 11:35 AM, Janfromearth  wrote:
> 
> I just loaded Gnucash 3.3  to my Macbook Air using Mojave 10.14.1.  I try to
> process a customer invoice and payment then it crashes. It seems ok when
> adding or editing my chart of accounts.  Any thoughts? Thanks

Can you paste in the first ~5 lines of the stack trace from a crash report?

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Mac OS cursor positioning

2018-12-05 Thread John Ralls



> On Dec 5, 2018, at 9:30 AM, V. Vatsal via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There have been several posts over time (including my own) about problems 
> with cursor positioning in Mac OS.
> 
> I thought I had this problem solved, but it seems to have come back.
> 
> Here are some things that seem to be relevant, in case a developer is looking 
> in to it.
> 
> i) The "open new windows in tabs" in system preferences is implicated. This 
> setting seems to have been changed or reset in Mojave; it's now called 
> "prefer tabs when opening documents" (can't remember what it was before) and 
> by default it seems to be set to "in full screen only"
> 
> ii) GnuCash has a show tab bar option in the window management. Turning this 
> on seems to cause problems.
> 
> iii) Using the Mac OS option to hide and show the menu bar automatically 
> seems to cause problems.
> 
> I solved my most current instance of this problem (in GnuCash 3.3) by playing 
> around with (i) and (ii).

Are you running GnuCash in full-screen?

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Help with Macbook

2018-12-05 Thread Greg Stevens
Very helpful! Thank you!

On Tue, Dec 4, 2018, 8:43 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net wrote:

> Greg,
>
> In addition to Google and Yahoo, that search filter Stephen noted should
> also work with DuckDuckGo, StartPage and Bing if you are more comfortable
> using them.
>
> Enter your desired normal search phrase after the filter text.
>
> Yes, you’ll need to ‘install’ the GnuCash.app on the Mac you intend to run
> it on. Just as most any other Mac application, you need to copy it to the
> /Applications folder. Some .dmg files offer this as a drag-n-drop shortcut
> within, but GnuCash does not. Simply open another Finder window or tab set
> to /Applications and drag GnuCash.app to it.
>
> Then FROM the /Applications Finder window, right-click and choose ‘open’.
> It will ask you to confirm you want to do so. Click the ‘Open’ button to
> confirm. It *should* launch the first time. But if not, just left
> double-click as normal and it should launch. From then, on you can start it
> from LaunchPad, Spotlight, or from your Dock. (of course, you can always
> launch from /Applications if that’s your thing)
>
> If you still can’t get it to start, or if it starts and crashes, report
> back, because there is an issue on some systems and there are several
> mailing list threads and maybe a few bug reports covering this. (it worked
> fine for me from the get go)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Dec 4, 2018, at 10:03 PM, Stephen M. Butler  wrote:
> >
> > On 12/4/18 7:43 PM, Greg Stevens wrote:
> >> Ok, start with an apology here as I am not very tech savvy...I would
> love
> >> to simply browse a forum in an attempt to self solve my problem...not
> sure
> >> if one exists...and have never used a mail list before, so no idea how
> to
> >> browse/search...
> >
> > In addition to m comments below about the Mac, you can find information
> on the mailing list here: https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists
> >
> > That link includes this note:
> >
> > Currently, there is no on-site mechanism to search the mailing lists
> *and the search link on the archive page is broken.*
> >
> > Instead, use the term "site:lists.gnucash.org" at Google or Yahoo! to
> search within the archives, e.g.
> http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Alists.gnucash.org+string+to+search .
> >
> >>
> >> so here is my issue.
> >>
> >> I had a 2011 version Macbook Pro and was running gnucash-Intel 2.6.14.1.
> >> The program never installed and I would have to re-launch (off dropbox)
> >> every time I wanted to work in the application. I also save my gnucash
> log
> >> and files to dropbox.
> >>
> >> I just upgraded to a new macbook pro. I am trying to install
> Gnucash-Intel
> >> 3.3-1.dmg..
> >>
> >> It will not install. I get the dialogue box saying it is an application
> and
> >> is it ok to open..and that's it. Once I click yes, it just
> >> disappears...nothing.
> >>
> >> Would really appreciate if someone can either point me to
> troubleshooting
> >> guide or offer specific help so that I can get this version installed
> on my
> >> laptop.
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance.
> >>
> >> Greg
> >>
> >> ps. just realized I have no idea where to look for the answer to this
> >> email...so I guess I hope someone emails back?
> >
> > I'm not a Mac user but have seen recently on the list that you need to
> copy/drag it to an application folder.  Then once there, click on it the
> first time (which will fail) then click on it again and it should run.
> >
> > I hope I got the technically correct words to convey the message.
> >
> > --
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[GNC] Gnucash 3.3 crashes with Mojave 10.14.1

2018-12-05 Thread Janfromearth
 I just loaded Gnucash 3.3  to my Macbook Air using Mojave 10.14.1.  I try to
process a customer invoice and payment then it crashes. It seems ok when
adding or editing my chart of accounts.  Any thoughts? Thanks



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[GNC] Mac OS cursor positioning

2018-12-05 Thread V. Vatsal via gnucash-user

Hi,

There have been several posts over time (including my own) about 
problems with cursor positioning in Mac OS.


I thought I had this problem solved, but it seems to have come back.

Here are some things that seem to be relevant, in case a developer is 
looking in to it.


i) The "open new windows in tabs" in system preferences is implicated. 
This setting seems to have been changed or reset in Mojave; it's now 
called "prefer tabs when opening documents" (can't remember what it was 
before) and by default it seems to be set to "in full screen only"


ii) GnuCash has a show tab bar option in the window management. Turning 
this on seems to cause problems.


iii) Using the Mac OS option to hide and show the menu bar automatically 
seems to cause problems.


I solved my most current instance of this problem (in GnuCash 3.3) by 
playing around with (i) and (ii).


Nike

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Re: [GNC] Credit cards gone missing

2018-12-05 Thread Cliff McDiarmid

   Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 at 10:48 PM
   >From: "John Ralls" 
   >To: "Cliff McDiarmid" 
   >Subject: Re: [GNC] Credit cards gone missing



   >On Dec 5, 2018, at 12:32 AM, Cliff McDiarmid
   <[1]cliffhan...@gardener.com> wrote:




   >Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2018 at 12:48 PM
   >From: "John Ralls" <[2]jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us>
   >To: [3]cliffhan...@gardener.com
   >Cc: [4]gnucash-user@gnucash.org
   >Subject: Re: [GNC] Credit cards gone missing
   > On Dec 4, 2018, at 5:51 PM, [5]cliffhan...@gardener.com wrote:
   >
   > Hi. Why would my credit cards disappear from the accounts list? I
   thought originally it was a filter issue but but that is not the case.
   Under the filter option credit cards is enabled. . Thanks Cliff
   >First guess is that you have 0-balance accounts filtered out and
   you’ve paid off the credit card balance so that it’s 0.

   >Thanks John but it's not that.   I do have the 0-balance a/cs out, but
   I tried reinstating it made no difference.   Anyway balances are not
   zero.  Chance would be a fine thing!

   >Cliff

   >Please remember to copy the list on all replies. “Reply All” works
   well, as does “Reply List” if your mail client provides it.

   Will do

   >OK, take a look at the “Other” tab in the Filter By... dialog and make
   sure that all three boxes are checked.


   Found it.  I'm off top get my head tested.  Liabilities was unchecked!

   Thanks again

   regards Cliff

References

   1. mailto:cliffhan...@gardener.com
   2. mailto:jra...@ceridwen.fremont.ca.us
   3. mailto:cliffhan...@gardener.com
   4. mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org
   5. mailto:cliffhan...@gardener.com
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Re: [GNC] How to handle a Square Transaction

2018-12-05 Thread Maf. King
Looks right to me, assuming all the account balances increase!

Maf.


On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:52:08 GMT Overland Park Electric Company 
wrote:
> Thanks for the info.  I was actually shocked when I saw the money
> transferred overnight.
> I think I figured it out.
> 
> 
> checking  120.00
> credit card fees   5.00
> job income  125.00
> 
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 5:31 AM Maf. King  wrote:
> > OK,
> > 
> > Assuming Square sits on your money for a day or 2 (or longer), I would
> > create
> > a couple of accounts.
> > 
> > something like
> > Assets:Current Assets: Square
> > and
> > Expenses:BankingFees:SquareCommission
> > 
> > Record the payment as a 3-way split  (i'm never sure about which column is
> > which, and I don't have GC open at the moment to test)
> > Assets:C:S+120
> > Income  +125
> > Expenses:B:S+5
> > 
> > then when square moves the money to your bank, I'd just do a simple
> > transaction to move the 120 from Assets:Square to Assets:checking
> > 
> > If square don't sit on your money for more than a day, I'd just skip the
> > new
> > Asset account and do the 3-way txn straight into the main bank account...
> > 
> > HTH,
> > Maf.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:18:00 GMT Overland Park Electric Company
> > 
> > wrote:
> > > I don't use GC to create the invoice and I only enter the transaction
> > 
> > when
> > 
> > > I get paid.
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 4:57 AM Maf. King  wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > do you create an invoice in GC (ie. accruals) or is this all
> > 
> > "cash-based"
> > 
> > > > accounting?


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Re: [GNC] How to handle a Square Transaction

2018-12-05 Thread Maf. King
OK,

Assuming Square sits on your money for a day or 2 (or longer), I would create 
a couple of accounts.

something like
Assets:Current Assets: Square
and
Expenses:BankingFees:SquareCommission

Record the payment as a 3-way split  (i'm never sure about which column is 
which, and I don't have GC open at the moment to test)
Assets:C:S+120
Income  +125
Expenses:B:S+5

then when square moves the money to your bank, I'd just do a simple 
transaction to move the 120 from Assets:Square to Assets:checking

If square don't sit on your money for more than a day, I'd just skip the new 
Asset account and do the 3-way txn straight into the main bank account...

HTH,
Maf.



On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 11:18:00 GMT Overland Park Electric Company 
wrote:
> I don't use GC to create the invoice and I only enter the transaction when
> I get paid.
> 
> On Wed, Dec 5, 2018 at 4:57 AM Maf. King  wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > do you create an invoice in GC (ie. accruals) or is this all "cash-based"
> > accounting?





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Re: [GNC] Working with compound interest on varying amounts

2018-12-05 Thread prl

As David said.

In Australia, mortgage accounts can be quite complicated to represent. 
They are often variable-rate; it's common to pay at 4-weekly intervals 
while interest is calculated daily, but debited from the account at the 
end of the calendar month; and advance payments (and sometimes 
withdrawals against advance payments) are allowed.


It's also common for mortgage offset accounts to be attached to 
mortgages, which, instead of paying interest, the offset account's 
balance is subtracted from the mortgage accounts balance when the daily 
mortgage interest is being calculated. This gives an effective interest 
rate for the offset account equal to the mortgage interest rate, and is 
tax free, because no money is actually paid.


It all meant that when I had mortgage account, the interest calculation 
was way beyond my ability to convince GnuCash to calculate (and I didn't 
even use an offset account).


Instead, I ran a spreadsheet that calculated estimated interest due, and 
used that to make sure there weren't any gross errors in the bank's 
calculations. I simply copied the actual interest in the monthly bank 
statement into GnuCash, so that GunCash's balance would reconcile.


I do something similar for our on-call higher-interest savings accounts. 
The interest on our current account is so pitiful it's not worth 
calculating.


That's probably good enough for personal finances, but may not be good 
enough for your business use.


Peter

On 3/12/2018 23:03, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:

Hal,
Most such calculations are devilishly difficult to represent with 100% 
accuracy, which is why I have always opted to base my transactions on the 
statement, rather than try to anticipate what the finance company is going to 
come up with.
David T

  
  
   On Mon, Dec 3, 2018 at 12:10, Hal Vaughan wrote:   For the past few years, for my business that is mostly about renovating or restoring houses and reselling them (not flipping - this work takes time), I’ve used a Python library I wrote myself to handle accounting.  It was basically made up mostly of stuff I had, with a few new things added in.


I would like to switch over to GnuCash.  Luckily, since I’m at a slow point and 
between projects, I can do that without worrying about converting old data for 
older LLCs and projects.

There’s one issue I’m not sure can be handled by GnuCash, so I’d like to find 
out about it before trying to switch over.

I use a line of credit.  Luckily the interest rate is basically constant.  (There’s a 
slight flux, but not much.)  The problem is its compounded and, of course, every time I 
withdraw money from the credit line or pay any back, the principal amount changes.  I’m 
hoping, at this point, people are saying, "Oh, yeah, just do this…."

But just in case there’s a need for clarification, if I withdraw $50,000 to 
purchase a house on January 1, then, on the 15th, withdraw $10,000 for roofing 
work, need to figure out the total owed to that credit line on 1/31, and the 
interest rate is 3%, then I have to figure compound interest on $50,000 at 3% 
from 1/1 to 1/15.  Then I have to add $10,000 to that amount to calculate the 
interest on the $50,000 plus 15 days of interest, plus $10,000, plus the 
interest from the 15th to the 30th, at 3%, to get a clear number for what I owe.

Can I have this done automatically on an account?  If not, how can I easily 
keep track of this in GnuCash?


Thank you!


Hal
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Re: [GNC] How to handle a Square Transaction

2018-12-05 Thread Maf. King
Hi,

do you create an invoice in GC (ie. accruals) or is this all "cash-based" 
accounting?

Maf.



On Wednesday, 5 December 2018 10:25:49 GMT sdan45 wrote:
> Usually when someone paid me I would enter the whole transaction as Job
> income.  I just started accepting Square and I'm not sure how to exactly
> enter the transaction now.  As an example I do a job and it's $125.00.
> Square keeps $5.00 and sends me $120.00.  How do I now set up this
> transaction.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[GNC] How to handle a Square Transaction

2018-12-05 Thread sdan45
Usually when someone paid me I would enter the whole transaction as Job
income.  I just started accepting Square and I'm not sure how to exactly
enter the transaction now.  As an example I do a job and it's $125.00. 
Square keeps $5.00 and sends me $120.00.  How do I now set up this
transaction. 

Thanks





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Re: [GNC] Accounts do not appear in budget

2018-12-05 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Do you have any transactions in those accounts yet?

If not, they won’t show up by default.

You can change this setting in View > Filter By... > Other > Show unused 
accounts.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Dec 4, 2018, at 3:32 PM, Sadhna True  wrote:
> 
> I am a new Gnucash user, and I am using the software to manage personal 
> finances. I have previously used QuickBooks to do bookkeeping for a small 
> company.
> 
> In Gnucash, I created my accounts. When I create a new budget, a new tab 
> opens, but none of the accounts I created appear in the budget. What am I 
> doing wrong?
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Re: [GNC] Mac Installation (Again...?)

2018-12-05 Thread Hal Vaughan


> On Dec 5, 2018, at 12:07 AM, John Ralls  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 9:23 AM, Hal Vaughan  wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve read the recent thread about installation on the Mac and was going to 
>> try to include this, but apparently I had already deleted them in my email 
>> and I’m having trouble using the web interface to get to them.
>> 
>> I just upgraded to MacOS Mojave 10.14.1 and downloaded the latest version of 
>> GnuCash (3.3-1).  I mounted the .dmg file, then copied the files for GnuCash 
>> and FinanceQuote Update to my Applications folder.  I tried to run GnuCash.  
>> I got an intro splash and a window telling me it’s easy to reach GnuCash 
>> developers, then it crashed and I got the crash report window.
>> 
>> I tried it a couple more times just to be sure - same thing.  So I created a 
>> folder in my Applications folder.  The folder name is GnuCash.  I moved the 
>> two program files into that folder and copied over all the other files in 
>> the .dmg file into that same folder.  It still crashes, in the same way, 
>> every time I try to run it.
>> 
>> I did see there is, apparently, a Tk issue that is currently causing 
>> problems.
>> 
>> As I said, I would have attached this to the other recent thread on this 
>> issue, but couldn’t find the old emails or log in to the web interface.
>> 
> 
> No problem, it’s either https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796879 or 
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=796867, both of which are Gtk3 (not 
> Tk, an altogether different beast) problems. You’ll find a link in both bug 
> reports to a test bundle with the Gtk bugs fixed that you can download and 
> install, or you can wait until GnuCash 3.4 is released at the end of this 
> month.

Thank you!

Got it and it’s working just fine.

I don’t know if it matters, but I am *not* using the Mojave dark mode.  (In 
case anyone needs to know about that for any bug fixing.)


Hal
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