Re: [GNC] no printer to select in print dialog

2019-03-10 Thread Chris Roy-Smith

On 10/3/19 7:45 pm, Colin Law wrote:

Thanks Chris.  That could indeed be useful.  One should always
remember, though, that with a ppa one is reliant on the integrity of
the packager to build what you are expecting.  There is nothing to
stop someone modifying the code for nefarious purposes and building it
into a ppa.  Looking at the packagers profile, however, there does not
seem to be anything that would lead one to worry about his/her
integrity.

Colin


I also tried running GnuCash using this command

flatpak run --device=all org.gnucash.GnuCash

But I still don't get any printers!

perhaps I misunderstood the notes at

http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/search.html?q=device_keywords=yes=default

regards, Chris



On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 08:30, Chris Roy-Smith
 wrote:

On 10/3/19 7:17 pm, Colin Law wrote:

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 08:07, Chris Roy-Smith
 wrote:

Hi David,
thanks for the explanation. I have set-up the ppa, and all works fine now.

Which ppa is that? I didn't know there is a gnucash ppa.

Colin

Here is the ppa I used

ppa:sicklylife/gnucash

regards, Chris



On 10/3/19 6:10 pm, David Cousens wrote:

Chris,

You possibly have installed the flatpak version of GnuCash in which case it
is possibly settings in the flathub support which restrict GnuCash from
accessing the printer. Flatpak is a sandbox which isolates the application
from the OS. One of the developers has been working on getting a flatpak
version downloadable from the GnuCash website but I don't know what the
status is.

This reference from an earlier thread
http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html

may be of some assistance.

The original thread dealt with access to mysql
http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-Gnucash-Flatpak-3-2-Mysql-issue-tt4703430.html.
There may be some info in some of the other posts in the thread.

I installed the flatpack GnuCash when I first moved to LM19, had problems
and quicklywent back to building my own from sources.  There is also a
repository which has a build of  the latest release of GnuCash (3.4) at
https://launchpad.net/~sicklylife/+archive/ubuntu/gnucash. It is not
officially part of the GnuCash team but works. After installing the ppa with
the instructions shown there just use
sudo apt install gnucash
in a terminal.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] Uninstall GC

2019-03-10 Thread David Cousens
Denis

$cd  ~/Applications/build-gnucash-3.1
$make uninstall

should do it since you installed in HOME/.local  HOME is just /home/
where  is your username on the system. I don't install there but use
/usr/local for system wide installation not individual user so I am not sure
of the exact details of how GnuCash installs in HOME/.local.

If it doesn't then you can remove the installation manually. If the build
directory is intact it will have a file install_manifest.txt which will list
where all the files are installed to. 

All files will be under the .local hidden directory. Uee Ctrl-H in your file
manager to display hidden directories. I think that works on Ubuntu as well
as Linux Mint.

Check what files are present in HOME/.local.  How you proceed will depend if
you have installed any other software in this location. If you are lucky it
will possibley have a file gnucash which has subdirectories like bin, share,
lib, etc.  If this is the case then deleting the gnucash directory and
contents will completely remove the gnucash application with no problems.  

If it isn't in a gnucash directory it will probably just have bin,share,
lib,etc directories directly under HOME/.local  . In this case you will need
to check whether any other applications are installed. Chances are if
HOME/.local/bin doesn't contain anything but the gnucash program you are OK,
but also check the lib and share directories to see if there are anything
other than gnucash related files there.  If there are no other applications
installed there then it is safe to just delete all the directories under
HOME/.local.

If not then you could use the install_manifest.txt as a guide  and manually
delete them one by one to ensure you don't delete anything else you might
need.

David Cousens



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[GNC] Handling transaction edits after reconciliation

2019-03-10 Thread James Blair
At Geert's request, I am adding my voice to the list of mailing list users
who object to changes that automatically mark a transaction unreconciled
when certain fields are edited. I regret that I wasn't subscribed to the
list about two months ago, so I am unable to reply easily to archived
threads. For context, here are some links:

Bug I reported when I first recognized the unreconciling behavior in
GnuCash 3.4:
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797084

Original post in the most relevant gnucash-users discussion:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-January/081797.html

Most recent post in that discussion:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2019-January/081942.html

Aside from arguments previously presented in that thread and in my bug
report about which fields should become protected during reconciliation,
I've been thinking about a new concern. How do I tell the difference
between transactions (or maybe "splits" is more accurate, I'm not sure)
that have not yet cleared and ones that were edited after a previous
reconciliation?

Say I make a payment to John on January 10. I reconcile this account on
January 15. My February 15 bank statement arrives and I start my
reconciliation process. My payment to John is not marked reconciled. Did I
reconcile that transaction on January 15 and then edit an unprotected
field? Is it a duplicate transaction that should be deleted? Is John
holding my check without depositing it? To tell the difference between
these states, I think I have to examine previous account statements back to
my recorded payment date (to distinguish edited from never deposited) and
all transactions back to that date (to rule out a duplicate)! This feels to
me like an extremely high price to pay for editing transactions that have
already been reconciled. Is there a simpler way to resolve this ambiguity
that I'm not seeing?

One workflow I have seen proposed is to re-reconcile immediately after
editing transactions. The user opens up another window, finds the
transaction (probably near the top), clicks the box to reconcile it, and
clicks finish. But how is that any different than leaving the transaction
reconciled? It takes more clicks (does that count as security?) and
requires me to hold information in my brain longer about which
transaction(s) I just edited.

Another proposal might suggest that I would remember editing the
transaction, so this dilemma is theoretical rather than practical. I
disagree; if I could remember all of the transaction changes I'd made in
the last month, I probably wouldn't be relying on a computer in the first
place.

A workaround I plan to experiment with is to edit the description manually
for transactions with post-reconciliation edits, adding a short word or
symbol indicating it can be automatically reconciled next time without
matching a bank statement. For example, a payment to "Universal Exports"
might become "+Universal Exports" or "M*Universal Exports" (M for
"modified"). I will place it at the beginning of the description so it is
easier to see when scanning the list of transactions in the reconciliation
window.

James
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Re: [GNC] Problem reconciling after canceling

2019-03-10 Thread Keith N. McKenna
On 3/10/2019 3:08 AM, Colin Law wrote:
> Is the starting balance correct when you restart the reconciliation?
> 
> Colin
Yes the start balance was correct. Though on further reflection I may
have postponed the original and come back to it before I had to cancel it.

Regards
Keith

> 
> On Sun, 10 Mar 2019, 01:53 Keith N. McKenna, 
> wrote:
> 
>> At the time gnucash was the only application open and no other window
>> was there.
>> Keith
>>
>> On 3/9/2019 7:28 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>>> Double check you don’t have an open reconciliation window hiding in the
>> background.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Adrien
>>>
 On Mar 9, 2019, at 3:22 PM, Keith N. McKenna 
>> wrote:

 After canceling the reconciliation of my checking account and restarting
 it the reconcile window showed that I had already reconciled more than
 the closing balance I entered from my statement. I then canceled the
 reconciliation again and went into the account register and and reset
 all entries that had a c in the reconcile field back to n and tried the
 reconciliation again. The reconciliation window still shows I have
 reconciled a dollar amount instead of 0.

 Is there a way I can convince gnucash that nothing for the month has
 been reconciled?

 Regards
 Keith N. McKenna

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[GNC] Finance Quote on Debian

2019-03-10 Thread Patrick Kelly
How do get finance Quote to work on a Debian 9 system.   Everything appears
to be installed, when I click get quotes, the cursor changes to a circle and
never finishes.  As if it went off into space and never returns.  I have to
force quit GnuCash to get out of it.

 

 

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Re: [GNC] Uninstall GC

2019-03-10 Thread Dennis Powless
These are the commands I ran to install gnucash.

cmake -DWITH_AQBANKING=OFF -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/dennis/.local
/home/dennis/Applications/gnucash-3.1

cmake

cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=$HOME/.local ../gnucash-3.


This is where gnucash is located.
dennis@dennis-XPS-8500:~$ whereis gnucash
gnucash: /home/dennis/.local/bin/gnucash

I tried the steps in the article.
dennis@dennis-XPS-8500:~/Applications/build-gnucash-3.1$ sudo make uninstall
make: /usr/bin/cmake: Command not found
Makefile:3688: recipe for target 'cmake_check_build_system' failed
make: *** [cmake_check_build_system] Error 127

dennis@dennis-XPS-8500:~/Applications/gnucash-3.1$ sudo make uninstall
[sudo] password for dennis:
make: *** No rule to make target 'uninstall'.  Stop.



Dennis





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> Dennis
>
> Take a look at https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Uninstall_Gnucash_Ubuntu if
> you
> are on Linux.
>
> David
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Re: [GNC] import from csv messing with trailing quotation marks

2019-03-10 Thread Andrea Borgia

reply to self to add: also leading marks are affected.
basically, all marks that appear at the very beginning or end of a 
description.

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[GNC] import from csv messing with trailing quotation marks

2019-03-10 Thread Andrea Borgia

Hi.

Splitting multi-year book by exporting transactions to CSV and importing 
them in a new file, I noticed that trailing quotation marks (") in split 
 descriptions have been replaced by a backslash.


Am I doing something wrong during the export? I see there is a "quote" 
checkbox but there is no help associated so I didn't use it.


If the quotation mark does not appear at the end of the split 
description, then all is well.


PBCAK or (possibly known) bug?

Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: [GNC] retained earnings in balance sheet: where does it come from?

2019-03-10 Thread Andrea Borgia

Il 10/03/19 10:55, Liz ha scritto:


If you have a negative balance do you pay a "negative" tax?
Liz


I have never tried but I assume you simply would pay nothing.
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Re: [GNC] retained earnings in balance sheet: where does it come from?

2019-03-10 Thread Liz
Andrea Borgia wrote:

> (*) yeah, in Italy you pay a small percentage of your bank account
> balance for the privilege of having a bank account. Funny place, I know.
>

If you have a negative balance do you pay a "negative" tax?
Liz

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Re: [GNC] retained earnings in balance sheet: where does it come from?

2019-03-10 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Yes, sorry. I misunderstood your post.

The Balance Sheet Report does show a Retained Earnings line if you do not close 
books that is calculated as if you had. (which is why you don’t need to use 
that procedure, GnuCash doesn’t require you to close books as that is a 
procedure mostly dictated by physical paper constraints)

I thought you meant an actual account with that name, hence my previous post.

So the Balance Sheet is telling you the result of Income-Expenses for 2016 is 
54.10.

The fact that this is also the same amount as this particular transaction you 
entered for 13/01/17 is purely coincidental. (and should be, since it is 
entered in 2017 and you are running a balance sheet as of 31/12/16, unless you 
*aren’t* setting that report date properly) Transactions after 31/12/16 (or 
whatever date you run your balance sheet for) are not part of the report 
calculation, so they can’t affect it.

2015 might not show that line, but that would mean your expenses match your 
income exactly for that year, an unlikely but not impossible scenario.

First, be certain of your report dates in the General Tab.

The ‘Retained Earnings/Loss’ line in the Balance Sheet should be equal to the 
’Net Income/Loss’ for the same period on the Income Statement/P

(that is what you would zero out to an actual ‘retained earnings’ account which 
is a child of Equity)

Your Net for 2016 should be 54.10.

Your Net for 2015 should be zero.

(assuming your Balance Sheet Report dates are 31/12/16 and 31/12/15 
respectively)

> On Mar 10, 2019, at 3:58 AM, Andrea Borgia  wrote:
> 
> Il 10/03/19 01:19, Adrien Monteleone ha scritto:
> 
>> Retained Earnings is posted when you perform a close book operation.
>> (or manually zero your income/expense accounts to Equity)
>> If you didn’t do this for 2015, there would be no entry.
>> If you performed the 2016 close book operation in Jan 2017, you’ll
>> have a retained earnings entry in that month for the net
>> income-expenses for 2016. If you were a non-individual entity, that
>> amount would be the entity’s taxable income for the year, hence the
>> tax flag. You probably want to fix that date to 12/31/16.
> 
> Hi, Adrien.
> 
> Thanks for the answer, however I think you got it backwards because I didn't 
> explain it properly: what I find interesting is that the report shows a 
> retained earnings value in the first place, whereas the entry itself was made 
> by me and it's a tax(*) recorded on the same day as the bank statement 
> (hence, correctly, in 2017).
> 
> So, I have the following entries:
> 14/01/2015: 53.80
> 20/01/2016: 53.80
> 13/01/2017: 54.10
> 18/01/2018: 54.00
> 
> 54.10 showed up in the balance sheet for 2016, 53.80 did not show up for 2015.
> 
> Does this additional information still fit your explanation?
> 
> 
> Thanks again,
> Andrea.
> 
> (*) yeah, in Italy you pay a small percentage of your bank account
> balance for the privilege of having a bank account. Funny place, I know.
> 
> 


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Re: [GNC] retained earnings in balance sheet: where does it come from?

2019-03-10 Thread Andrea Borgia

Il 10/03/19 01:19, Adrien Monteleone ha scritto:


Retained Earnings is posted when you perform a close book operation.
(or manually zero your income/expense accounts to Equity)

If you didn’t do this for 2015, there would be no entry.

If you performed the 2016 close book operation in Jan 2017, you’ll
have a retained earnings entry in that month for the net
income-expenses for 2016. If you were a non-individual entity, that
amount would be the entity’s taxable income for the year, hence the
tax flag. You probably want to fix that date to 12/31/16.


Hi, Adrien.

Thanks for the answer, however I think you got it backwards because I 
didn't explain it properly: what I find interesting is that the report 
shows a retained earnings value in the first place, whereas the entry 
itself was made by me and it's a tax(*) recorded on the same day as the 
bank statement (hence, correctly, in 2017).


So, I have the following entries:
14/01/2015: 53.80
20/01/2016: 53.80
13/01/2017: 54.10
18/01/2018: 54.00

54.10 showed up in the balance sheet for 2016, 53.80 did not show up for 
2015.


Does this additional information still fit your explanation?


Thanks again,
Andrea.

(*) yeah, in Italy you pay a small percentage of your bank account
balance for the privilege of having a bank account. Funny place, I know.

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Re: [GNC] no printer to select in print dialog

2019-03-10 Thread Colin Law
Thanks Chris.  That could indeed be useful.  One should always
remember, though, that with a ppa one is reliant on the integrity of
the packager to build what you are expecting.  There is nothing to
stop someone modifying the code for nefarious purposes and building it
into a ppa.  Looking at the packagers profile, however, there does not
seem to be anything that would lead one to worry about his/her
integrity.

Colin

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 08:30, Chris Roy-Smith
 wrote:
>
> On 10/3/19 7:17 pm, Colin Law wrote:
> > On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 08:07, Chris Roy-Smith
> >  wrote:
> >> Hi David,
> >> thanks for the explanation. I have set-up the ppa, and all works fine now.
> > Which ppa is that? I didn't know there is a gnucash ppa.
> >
> > Colin
>
> Here is the ppa I used
>
> ppa:sicklylife/gnucash
>
> regards, Chris
>
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10/3/19 6:10 pm, David Cousens wrote:
> >>> Chris,
> >>>
> >>> You possibly have installed the flatpak version of GnuCash in which case 
> >>> it
> >>> is possibly settings in the flathub support which restrict GnuCash from
> >>> accessing the printer. Flatpak is a sandbox which isolates the application
> >>> from the OS. One of the developers has been working on getting a flatpak
> >>> version downloadable from the GnuCash website but I don't know what the
> >>> status is.
> >>>
> >>> This reference from an earlier thread
> >>> http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html
> >>>
> >>> may be of some assistance.
> >>>
> >>> The original thread dealt with access to mysql
> >>> http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-Gnucash-Flatpak-3-2-Mysql-issue-tt4703430.html.
> >>> There may be some info in some of the other posts in the thread.
> >>>
> >>> I installed the flatpack GnuCash when I first moved to LM19, had problems
> >>> and quicklywent back to building my own from sources.  There is also a
> >>> repository which has a build of  the latest release of GnuCash (3.4) at
> >>> https://launchpad.net/~sicklylife/+archive/ubuntu/gnucash. It is not
> >>> officially part of the GnuCash team but works. After installing the ppa 
> >>> with
> >>> the instructions shown there just use
> >>> sudo apt install gnucash
> >>> in a terminal.
> >>>
> >>> David Cousens
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [GNC] no printer to select in print dialog

2019-03-10 Thread Chris Roy-Smith

On 10/3/19 7:17 pm, Colin Law wrote:

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 08:07, Chris Roy-Smith
 wrote:

Hi David,
thanks for the explanation. I have set-up the ppa, and all works fine now.

Which ppa is that? I didn't know there is a gnucash ppa.

Colin


Here is the ppa I used

ppa:sicklylife/gnucash

regards, Chris






On 10/3/19 6:10 pm, David Cousens wrote:

Chris,

You possibly have installed the flatpak version of GnuCash in which case it
is possibly settings in the flathub support which restrict GnuCash from
accessing the printer. Flatpak is a sandbox which isolates the application
from the OS. One of the developers has been working on getting a flatpak
version downloadable from the GnuCash website but I don't know what the
status is.

This reference from an earlier thread
http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html

may be of some assistance.

The original thread dealt with access to mysql
http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-Gnucash-Flatpak-3-2-Mysql-issue-tt4703430.html.
There may be some info in some of the other posts in the thread.

I installed the flatpack GnuCash when I first moved to LM19, had problems
and quicklywent back to building my own from sources.  There is also a
repository which has a build of  the latest release of GnuCash (3.4) at
https://launchpad.net/~sicklylife/+archive/ubuntu/gnucash. It is not
officially part of the GnuCash team but works. After installing the ppa with
the instructions shown there just use
sudo apt install gnucash
in a terminal.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] no printer to select in print dialog

2019-03-10 Thread Chris Roy-Smith

On 10/3/19 7:17 pm, Colin Law wrote:

On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 08:07, Chris Roy-Smith
 wrote:

Hi David,
thanks for the explanation. I have set-up the ppa, and all works fine now.

Which ppa is that? I didn't know there is a gnucash ppa.

Colin


here is the one I used, it gives version 3.4

ppa:sicklylife/gnucash

Regards,

Chris





On 10/3/19 6:10 pm, David Cousens wrote:

Chris,

You possibly have installed the flatpak version of GnuCash in which case it
is possibly settings in the flathub support which restrict GnuCash from
accessing the printer. Flatpak is a sandbox which isolates the application
from the OS. One of the developers has been working on getting a flatpak
version downloadable from the GnuCash website but I don't know what the
status is.

This reference from an earlier thread
http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html

may be of some assistance.

The original thread dealt with access to mysql
http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-Gnucash-Flatpak-3-2-Mysql-issue-tt4703430.html.
There may be some info in some of the other posts in the thread.

I installed the flatpack GnuCash when I first moved to LM19, had problems
and quicklywent back to building my own from sources.  There is also a
repository which has a build of  the latest release of GnuCash (3.4) at
https://launchpad.net/~sicklylife/+archive/ubuntu/gnucash. It is not
officially part of the GnuCash team but works. After installing the ppa with
the instructions shown there just use
sudo apt install gnucash
in a terminal.

David Cousens



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Re: [GNC] no printer to select in print dialog

2019-03-10 Thread Colin Law
On Sun, 10 Mar 2019 at 08:07, Chris Roy-Smith
 wrote:
>
> Hi David,
> thanks for the explanation. I have set-up the ppa, and all works fine now.

Which ppa is that? I didn't know there is a gnucash ppa.

Colin


>
>
>
> On 10/3/19 6:10 pm, David Cousens wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > You possibly have installed the flatpak version of GnuCash in which case it
> > is possibly settings in the flathub support which restrict GnuCash from
> > accessing the printer. Flatpak is a sandbox which isolates the application
> > from the OS. One of the developers has been working on getting a flatpak
> > version downloadable from the GnuCash website but I don't know what the
> > status is.
> >
> > This reference from an earlier thread
> > http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html
> >
> > may be of some assistance.
> >
> > The original thread dealt with access to mysql
> > http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-Gnucash-Flatpak-3-2-Mysql-issue-tt4703430.html.
> > There may be some info in some of the other posts in the thread.
> >
> > I installed the flatpack GnuCash when I first moved to LM19, had problems
> > and quicklywent back to building my own from sources.  There is also a
> > repository which has a build of  the latest release of GnuCash (3.4) at
> > https://launchpad.net/~sicklylife/+archive/ubuntu/gnucash. It is not
> > officially part of the GnuCash team but works. After installing the ppa with
> > the instructions shown there just use
> > sudo apt install gnucash
> > in a terminal.
> >
> > David Cousens
> >
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Re: [GNC] no printer to select in print dialog

2019-03-10 Thread Chris Roy-Smith

Hi David,
thanks for the explanation. I have set-up the ppa, and all works fine now.



On 10/3/19 6:10 pm, David Cousens wrote:

Chris,

You possibly have installed the flatpak version of GnuCash in which case it
is possibly settings in the flathub support which restrict GnuCash from
accessing the printer. Flatpak is a sandbox which isolates the application
from the OS. One of the developers has been working on getting a flatpak
version downloadable from the GnuCash website but I don't know what the
status is.

This reference from an earlier thread
http://docs.flatpak.org/en/latest/sandbox-permissions-reference.html

may be of some assistance.

The original thread dealt with access to mysql
http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-Gnucash-Flatpak-3-2-Mysql-issue-tt4703430.html.
There may be some info in some of the other posts in the thread.

I installed the flatpack GnuCash when I first moved to LM19, had problems
and quicklywent back to building my own from sources.  There is also a
repository which has a build of  the latest release of GnuCash (3.4) at
https://launchpad.net/~sicklylife/+archive/ubuntu/gnucash. It is not
officially part of the GnuCash team but works. After installing the ppa with
the instructions shown there just use
sudo apt install gnucash
in a terminal.

David Cousens



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