[GNC] Creating debian package

[Stephen M. Butler]

Some have asked how I create the debian packages on Ubuntu.  Someone
more knowledgeable about wiki's may want to capture this in an
appropriate area.

I presume that the user already has an area within $HOME for their
projects.  Mine is ./Projects and holds several different items like
GnC.  Within Projects I have ./GnuCash so it is kept separate from
Subsurface, X-Plane, PicMicro, etc.

You would also need to setup for using dpkg-buildpackage (there are
several web sites that describe the setup for using this).

The below is the commands that would be used if someone wants to start
from nothing (copying from notes so please excuse any typos).

# setup the Projects area just in case my presumption is wrong
cd $HOME
mkdir Projects
cd Projects
mkdir GnuCash
cd GnuCash

#grab a clone of the GnuCash git repsoitory
git clone https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash
cd gnucash
git checkout 3.5   ;# or 3.4 or whichever you desire.  If you want
absolute latest then use "git checkout  maint" instead.
GITVER=$(git describe)
MYVER=${GITVER%-*}
MYRPR=gnucash_${MYVER}
MYTAR=${MYRPR}.orig.tar

#Pick the Ubuntu version for which you want to compile:  trusty, xenial,
bionic, disco, etc.
MYDISTRO=trusty

#bring in the debian folder and modify version and distro flags as noted.
cp -r ../debian .
sed -e "s/MYVER/${MYVER}/;s/MYDISTRO/$MYDISTRO/" ../debian/changelog >
debian/changelog

# pull in the dependencies as noted in the control file
sudo mk-build-deps -ir debian/control
# For 3.5 you need to manually change line 137 in
$HOME/GnuCash/gnucash/common/cmake_modules/GncAddTest.cmake
# from:   set(GTST_LIB "${GTEST_SHARED_LIB};${GTEST_MAIN_LIB}"
PARENT_SCOPE)

#    to:   set(GTEST_LIB "${GTEST_MAIN_LIB};${GTEST_SHARED_LIB}"
PARENT_SCOPE)

#At this point all is ready to build the debian packages

dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -b -uc


# this will result in 7 files in the GnuCash folder (the parent to the
git clone  where the above command was run.

# of these, the 3 *.deb files are the debian packages to be installed:

-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve    19751 May 21 08:17 gnucash_3.5-0_amd64.buildinfo
-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve 2266 May 21 08:17 gnucash_3.5-0_amd64.changes
-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve  3957024 May 21 08:17 gnucash_3.5-0_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve  5127172 May 21 08:17 gnucash-common_3.5-0_all.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve 20918176 May 21 08:17
gnucash-dbgsym_3.5-0_amd64.ddeb
-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve   269932 May 21 08:17
python3-gnucash_3.5-0_amd64.deb
-rw-r--r-- 1 steve steve   769424 May 21 08:17
python3-gnucash-dbgsym_3.5-0_amd64.ddeb


I have added a "debian" folder to the "GnuCash" google drive folder that
contains a modified version  of the debian files.  Here is a link to the
"GnuCash" folder:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1s-E6t-snmQiEFaT_hlWF2KHWrIB_LV2x





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Re: [GNC] Version upgrade: Missing Saved Reports

[Adrien Monteleone]

Steve,

Check the wiki concerning file locations for the 3.x series. Reports were moved 
to another location and named saved-reports-2.8 (2.8 was originally the next in 
the version numbering, but was later upped to 3.0) You’ll need to copy your 2.4 
reports there. Unfortunately, I don’t know the Windows location off hand but 
the wiki will have it. (someone more familiar with this might chime in as well) 
I *think* it is `c:\Users\\%APPDATA%` but I could be remembering 
it wrong —best to double check and verify that.

If you have a truly custom report (not just a saved report) I seem to recall 
also that the user loading file has changed. The wiki should also have this 
info.

Check the FAQ for the links (or rabbit hole if you will, as it may be buried 3+ 
pages deep) to find the info.

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 21, 2019, at 1:13 PM, Steve Isenberg via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> I upgraded to version 3.5 today. None of my saved reports are available. 
> Under my user ID (Win 7) there is a .gnucash folder with a file named 
> saved-reports-2.4.
> How do I recover my saved reports from the old version?
> Thanks
> Steve I


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Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation

[Adrien Monteleone via gnucash-user]

Ah, missed that, thanks! So even less of a hurdle then to use/play with those 
reports...

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 21, 2019, at 12:49 PM, D  wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
> 
> I'll note that Geert's proposal only requires the user to add a switch at run 
> time--i.e., "gnucash --extra". There is no need for the prospective report 
> writer to recompile.I
> 
> David
> 


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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Impossible to generate reports.

[David Carlson]

I agree that it seems like it should not have worked even then, but it did
for me on a couple of machines and for a lot of other users as well.  I
think there is some strange kind of software leak that gets repaired by
that procedure.

David Carlson

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 1:18 PM David Carlson 
wrote:

> The instructions that Derek was quoting were originally taken from a very
> old bug report dating back to Windows XP days.  They do actually work in
> those older OSes, and there are hints every so often that the same bug
> still exists in Windows 7 and Windows 10.  That is why some of us continue
> to mention them when this type of problem appears for some users.  Windows
> 10 has re-vamped the UI surrounding the suspected settings, and this is an
> attempt to get to the offending setting.  I am not sure if it is correct,
> as I don't have that problem on my wife's Windows 10 computer, but I think
> this addresses that setting.
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:51 PM John Ralls  wrote:
>
>> I'll be amazed if that works. GnuCash has its own instance of WebKit and
>> reports don't interact with the system browser at all, unless of course one
>> exports HTML from the report and then opens it with the system browser.
>>
>> Which the OP might consider for a workaround.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John Ralls
>>
>> > On May 21, 2019, at 9:14 AM, David Carlson 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:16 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> You are trying to configure the way Windows displays HTML pages.
>> >> You are not configuring GnuCash.
>> >>
>> >> As the instructions say:
>> >>
>> >> * Select the bottom option "Set program access and computer defaults"
>> >> * You are then asked to chose a configuration:
>> >> * Extend the "Custom" configuration section by clicking on the double
>> down
>> >> arrow at the right (this step may not be necessary). If you are already
>> >> using a "Custom" configuration, note the settings so you can go back to
>> >> them once the problem is fixed.
>> >> * Scroll up then click on the radio button to use the "Microsoft
>> Windows"
>> >> configuration.
>> >>
>> >> So once you select "Set program access and computer defaults" you need
>> >> to extend the Custom configuration section and then click on the radio
>> >> button for "Microsoft Windows" configuration.
>> >>
>> >> Note:  I don't use Windows, so I am just helping you follow the
>> >> instructions provided by others.
>> >>
>> >> -derek
>> >>
>> >>   Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
>> >>   de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
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>> >
>> > In Windows 7 it is under Internet Options, or in Windows 10 under
>> > Settings.
>> > Choose Default Apps
>> > From there, scroll down to Choose Default Apps by filetype.  Scroll
>> down to
>> > .html.  Click on whatever it is currently set to, such as Google Chrome.
>> > Change it to Microsoft Edge or something different.  Then close
>> settings,
>> > reboot the computer, go back to settings and change the Default App for
>> > .html back to your previous App.
>> >
>> > Now try looking at HTML reports in GnuCash.  You may still need to wait
>> > several minutes before they appear.
>> >
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Impossible to generate reports.

[David Carlson]

The instructions that Derek was quoting were originally taken from a very
old bug report dating back to Windows XP days.  They do actually work in
those older OSes, and there are hints every so often that the same bug
still exists in Windows 7 and Windows 10.  That is why some of us continue
to mention them when this type of problem appears for some users.  Windows
10 has re-vamped the UI surrounding the suspected settings, and this is an
attempt to get to the offending setting.  I am not sure if it is correct,
as I don't have that problem on my wife's Windows 10 computer, but I think
this addresses that setting.

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:51 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> I'll be amazed if that works. GnuCash has its own instance of WebKit and
> reports don't interact with the system browser at all, unless of course one
> exports HTML from the report and then opens it with the system browser.
>
> Which the OP might consider for a workaround.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
> > On May 21, 2019, at 9:14 AM, David Carlson 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:16 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> You are trying to configure the way Windows displays HTML pages.
> >> You are not configuring GnuCash.
> >>
> >> As the instructions say:
> >>
> >> * Select the bottom option "Set program access and computer defaults"
> >> * You are then asked to chose a configuration:
> >> * Extend the "Custom" configuration section by clicking on the double
> down
> >> arrow at the right (this step may not be necessary). If you are already
> >> using a "Custom" configuration, note the settings so you can go back to
> >> them once the problem is fixed.
> >> * Scroll up then click on the radio button to use the "Microsoft
> Windows"
> >> configuration.
> >>
> >> So once you select "Set program access and computer defaults" you need
> >> to extend the Custom configuration section and then click on the radio
> >> button for "Microsoft Windows" configuration.
> >>
> >> Note:  I don't use Windows, so I am just helping you follow the
> >> instructions provided by others.
> >>
> >> -derek
> >>
> >>   Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
> >>   de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
> >>   Computer and Internet Security Consultant
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> >
> > In Windows 7 it is under Internet Options, or in Windows 10 under
> > Settings.
> > Choose Default Apps
> > From there, scroll down to Choose Default Apps by filetype.  Scroll down
> to
> > .html.  Click on whatever it is currently set to, such as Google Chrome.
> > Change it to Microsoft Edge or something different.  Then close settings,
> > reboot the computer, go back to settings and change the Default App for
> > .html back to your previous App.
> >
> > Now try looking at HTML reports in GnuCash.  You may still need to wait
> > several minutes before they appear.
> >
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[GNC] Version upgrade: Missing Saved Reports

[Steve Isenberg via gnucash-user]

I upgraded to version 3.5 today. None of my saved reports are available. 
Under my user ID (Win 7) there is a .gnucash folder with a file named 
saved-reports-2.4.
How do I recover my saved reports from the old version?
Thanks
Steve I
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Impossible to generate reports.

[John Ralls]

I'll be amazed if that works. GnuCash has its own instance of WebKit and 
reports don't interact with the system browser at all, unless of course one 
exports HTML from the report and then opens it with the system browser.

Which the OP might consider for a workaround.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On May 21, 2019, at 9:14 AM, David Carlson  
> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:16 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You are trying to configure the way Windows displays HTML pages.
>> You are not configuring GnuCash.
>> 
>> As the instructions say:
>> 
>> * Select the bottom option "Set program access and computer defaults"
>> * You are then asked to chose a configuration:
>> * Extend the "Custom" configuration section by clicking on the double down
>> arrow at the right (this step may not be necessary). If you are already
>> using a "Custom" configuration, note the settings so you can go back to
>> them once the problem is fixed.
>> * Scroll up then click on the radio button to use the "Microsoft Windows"
>> configuration.
>> 
>> So once you select "Set program access and computer defaults" you need
>> to extend the Custom configuration section and then click on the radio
>> button for "Microsoft Windows" configuration.
>> 
>> Note:  I don't use Windows, so I am just helping you follow the
>> instructions provided by others.
>> 
>> -derek
>> 
>>   Derek Atkins 617-623-3745
>>   de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com
>>   Computer and Internet Security Consultant
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> 
> In Windows 7 it is under Internet Options, or in Windows 10 under
> Settings.
> Choose Default Apps
> From there, scroll down to Choose Default Apps by filetype.  Scroll down to
> .html.  Click on whatever it is currently set to, such as Google Chrome.
> Change it to Microsoft Edge or something different.  Then close settings,
> reboot the computer, go back to settings and change the Default App for
> .html back to your previous App.
> 
> Now try looking at HTML reports in GnuCash.  You may still need to wait
> several minutes before they appear.
> 
> -- 
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Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation

[D via gnucash-user]

Adrien,

I'll note that Geert's proposal only requires the user to add a switch at run 
time--i.e., "gnucash --extra". There is no need for the prospective report 
writer to recompile.I

David

On May 21, 2019, at 9:43 PM, Adrien Monteleone  
wrote:

I’m in agreement there. If someone did take the plunge into scheme and they 
wanted to work on those particular reports, asking them to compile with flags 
isn’t a stretch for them at that point.

The less clutter and cruft the better, especially for new users.

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 21, 2019, at 7:09 AM, David T. via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am not a fan of keeping reports that *no one uses* included in the 
> application, on the offhand chance that some new user might decide to learn 
> scheme and the gnucash api to write a new report. As noted in the bug, this 
> has not been a particularly common occurrence. 
> 
> Geert's solution is a good compromise, IMHO.
> 
> It would be easy enough to add a note to the Custom Reports wiki page to 
> explain how a user would activate this. 
> 
> David

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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Trans shows completed 5/8 but not in register?

[Adrien Monteleone]

That’s your main data file. (unless you’re using a db backend) Make a copy of 
it just in case, work on the copy. It is likely compressed. If you try to open 
it using an XML capable text editor, it will display gibberish if compressed, 
or data/info nested inside XML tags if not.

Under the Preferences > General tab there is a ‘Compress Files’ option you can 
uncheck and then re-save. Otherwise, you can use a decompression utility.

Depending on the OS and editor you are using, you may need to rename the copied 
file from .gnucash to .xml.

Of course, you need to do this when the transaction doesn’t show. You could 
delete it if is there now, and try re-creating it. (and hopefully reproducing 
the bug)

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 21, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Jack Slater  wrote:
> 
> I didn’t look for any xml file. Where and what file name?
> 
> Is only happened once that I can see. 
> 


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Re: [GNC] Fw: Upcoming report deprecation

[Adrien Monteleone]

Chris,

I just ran these reports with the following results:

Average Balance ≈ 5 seconds
Net Worth Line & Bar Chart ≈ 1.25 seconds each

I have 387 accounts total, with 16 (not often used) currencies, that includes 
my book currency of USD.

I’m not sure how to get a good count of transactions however. (first 
transactions are dated 12/31/15 if that helps)

I did a Simple Layout export of my asset accounts and got 6069 transactions. I 
could export each type, but of course there would be many duplicates.

I don’t track stocks.

Also, I’m using 3.5 on MacOS Mojave with 16GB RAM.

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 18, 2019, at 8:15 PM, Christopher Lam  
> wrote:
> 
> These benchmarks are always useful. Would you mind describing
> characteristics of your books? e.g. number of accounts, number of
> currencies/commodities, approx no.transactions etc? I'm sure 3.5
> average-balance should be faster than prior versions.
> 
> This may be moot if average-balance will be hidden soon, but IMHO the
> networth linechart taking 1minute is still an interesting issue and I'd be
> keen to know why.


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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Trans shows completed 5/8 but not in register?

[Jack Slater]

I didn’t look for any xml file. Where and what file name?

Is only happened once that I can see. 

> On May 21, 2019, at 11:15 AM, Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> 
> It should appear right away on a re-open. If not, then most likely a 
> different bug or a special case of the original bug. (I think the original is 
> related to a screen re-draw issue)
> 
> After firing the SX, have you tried doing a search on the raw XML file to see 
> if the data is there? That would confirm the transaction is created but 
> simply not being displayed for some reason.
> 
> And, sorry if I missed this earlier, but is this always involving the same 
> accounts?
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
>> On May 21, 2019, at 6:44 AM, Jack Slater  wrote:
>> 
>> At this point, after reopening accounts a few times with no result, I have 
>> entered the transaction manually. We'll see how things go I guess.  I'd say 
>> its certainly a bug.
>> 
>> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 12:45 PM Adrien Monteleone 
>>  wrote:
>> The lack of auto-refresh I seem to recall is a known bug. Closing and 
>> re-opening the offending account should show the transaction however.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Jack Lockard  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have found this same behavior. I either go on to entering a necessary 
>>> manual transaction or closing and reopening the account and then the 
>>> scheduled transaction shows up. For whatever reason, when a scheduled 
>>> transaction is processed, the account register is not refreshed to have the 
>>> transaction appear.
>>> 
>>> Jack
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Trans shows completed 5/8 but not in register?

[Adrien Monteleone]

It should appear right away on a re-open. If not, then most likely a different 
bug or a special case of the original bug. (I think the original is related to 
a screen re-draw issue)

After firing the SX, have you tried doing a search on the raw XML file to see 
if the data is there? That would confirm the transaction is created but simply 
not being displayed for some reason.

And, sorry if I missed this earlier, but is this always involving the same 
accounts?

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 21, 2019, at 6:44 AM, Jack Slater  wrote:
> 
> At this point, after reopening accounts a few times with no result, I have 
> entered the transaction manually. We'll see how things go I guess.  I'd say 
> its certainly a bug.
> 
> On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 12:45 PM Adrien Monteleone 
>  wrote:
> The lack of auto-refresh I seem to recall is a known bug. Closing and 
> re-opening the offending account should show the transaction however.
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On May 20, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Jack Lockard  wrote:
> > 
> > I have found this same behavior. I either go on to entering a necessary 
> > manual transaction or closing and reopening the account and then the 
> > scheduled transaction shows up. For whatever reason, when a scheduled 
> > transaction is processed, the account register is not refreshed to have the 
> > transaction appear.
> > 
> > Jack

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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Impossible to generate reports.

[David Carlson]

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 8:16 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> You are trying to configure the way Windows displays HTML pages.
> You are not configuring GnuCash.
>
> As the instructions say:
>
> * Select the bottom option "Set program access and computer defaults"
> * You are then asked to chose a configuration:
> * Extend the "Custom" configuration section by clicking on the double down
> arrow at the right (this step may not be necessary). If you are already
> using a "Custom" configuration, note the settings so you can go back to
> them once the problem is fixed.
> * Scroll up then click on the radio button to use the "Microsoft Windows"
> configuration.
>
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In Windows 7 it is under Internet Options, or in Windows 10 under
Settings.
Choose Default Apps
>From there, scroll down to Choose Default Apps by filetype.  Scroll down to
.html.  Click on whatever it is currently set to, such as Google Chrome.
Change it to Microsoft Edge or something different.  Then close settings,
reboot the computer, go back to settings and change the Default App for
.html back to your previous App.

Now try looking at HTML reports in GnuCash.  You may still need to wait
several minutes before they appear.

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Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation

[Adrien Monteleone]

I’m in agreement there. If someone did take the plunge into scheme and they 
wanted to work on those particular reports, asking them to compile with flags 
isn’t a stretch for them at that point.

The less clutter and cruft the better, especially for new users.

Regards,
Adrien

> On May 21, 2019, at 7:09 AM, David T. via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I am not a fan of keeping reports that *no one uses* included in the 
> application, on the offhand chance that some new user might decide to learn 
> scheme and the gnucash api to write a new report. As noted in the bug, this 
> has not been a particularly common occurrence. 
> 
> Geert's solution is a good compromise, IMHO.
> 
> It would be easy enough to add a note to the Custom Reports wiki page to 
> explain how a user would activate this. 
> 
> David

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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Trans shows completed 5/8 but not in register?

[David Carlson]

That could take a long time.  I have one < *Bug 737099*
 - Monthly Reconcile dates
wrong for April in some years including 2014 2015 2017 2018 and 2019>
outstanding for over 5 years.  Monthly Reconcile dates precess exactly 4
days in April of non-leap years.

It may be limited to dates in the second or third week or about 50 to 60
days after Feb 29 (or not), but I haven't been able to nail it down that
tight.

I have not been able to figure out if others see it but are so used to
adjusting dates in accounts that are always floating like some credit card
statement dates that they just don't notice.

Anyway, I haven't migrated to 3.x so I don't know if it still happens in
the new series, but it is not marked as fixed.

Got that off my chest


David Carlson

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 7:08 AM Jack Slater  wrote:

> Will do. Thx for the help!
>
> > On May 21, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Maf. King  wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:44:55 BST Jack Slater wrote:
> >> At this point, after reopening accounts a few times with no result, I
> have
> >> entered the transaction manually. We'll see how things go I guess.  I'd
> say
> >> its certainly a bug.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Keep an eye on it for the next time it is supposed to fire and see what
> > happens.  maybe just "one of those things" this time around?
> >
> > or maybe a reproducible bug!
> >
> > Maf.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Fw: Upcoming report deprecation

[Christopher Lam]

Thanks for benchmarks... IMO 1min still too long (and 14mins shocking) but
not sure how to try speed this up unless I come across sample (obfuscated)
data

On Sun, 19 May 2019 at 18:55, Matthew Forbis <
matthewdavidforbis1...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Hi Chris,
>
> On my system, I have about 150-200 Asset and Liability accounts, going
> back to 2010.  One currency (USD), but about 50 unique commodities.  I am
> testing on version 3.5 on Windows 10.  The default Net Worth Linechart took
> 31 seconds to load (This is the accounting period by month with a Weighted
> Average as the price source [When using nearest in time it's faster still,
> but trying to compare fairly], and all accounts).  Average balance took
> 14:30 to load the exact same options.
>
> Thanks,
> Matt
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, May 18, 2019, 8:15:54 PM CDT, Christopher Lam <
> christopher@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> These benchmarks are always useful. Would you mind describing
> characteristics of your books? e.g. number of accounts, number of
> currencies/commodities, approx no.transactions etc? I'm sure 3.5
> average-balance should be faster than prior versions.
>
> This may be moot if average-balance will be hidden soon, but IMHO the
> networth linechart taking 1 minute is still an interesting issue and I'd be
> keen to know why.
>
>
> On Sat, 18 May 2019 at 18:33, Matthew Forbis via gnucash-user <
> gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:
> > Sending to list from correct email address.
> >   The Average Balance report would seem to have merit in my mind, such
> as tracking a portfolio over time, but I decided to test it to see what
> it's capable of.  In my testing, I found it can be rmostly eplicated by
> using the Net Worth linechart graph (most significant difference is you
> can't show only the assets line, and it's a line chart instead of a bar
> chart).  The Average Balance report has the downside of taking about 15-20
> minutes to run and generate the initial report versus the minute or so for
> the Net Worth linechart graphic.  So, while I think the average balance
> report has it's uses, I don't think it's a great report to use.  If it were
> to be improved, I don't know if I would relegate it to the extra menu, or
> merge it entirely with the Net Worth line charts.
> >
> > Thanks,Matt
> >
> > On Saturday, May 18, 2019, 7:21:17 AM CDT, Geert Janssens <
> geert.gnuc...@kobaltwit.be> wrote:
> >
> >  Hi,
> >
> > I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198
> > This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on
> the
> > assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in
> > gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following
> reports:
> >
> > Average Balance
> > Expenses vs. Day of Week
> > Income vs. Day of Week
> > Sample Report with Examples
> >
> > Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate
> > "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu) and hide this
> menu by
> > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra'
> > command line switch.
> >
> > If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which
> ones
> > and also how these reports benefit you in practice.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geert
> >
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Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 5/20/2019 4:22 PM, Geert Janssens wrote:

You can choose to install the report as a custom report as explained in our
wiki:
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Custom_Reports

The whole assumption here is these reports are rarely used and unmaintained.
We don't want to completely remove them as they can serve as examples of what
can be done with the report system, but at the same time we want to remove
clutter from the menus. So they stick around as development examples, not as
ready to use reports.

Regards,

Geert


I would think that though rare, a couple of those would be more than 
"examples", would have specific uses. Then they would be VERY useful.


An examples were asked for?

 Average Balance  there are loan agreements that use this rather 
than daily balance. Also other agreements (like whether interest paid, 
etc.). You might want to verify/check (aka "reconcile") what the bank 
says the average balance was.


Expenses vs. Day of Week
Income vs. Day of Week --- these two, especially together, would be 
important for a business deciding what days of the week to be open and 
which to take as the day(s) closed. A restaurant business usually makes 
this decision by estimate, using "cash receipts" but that could be 
deceptive if the profit percentage is not a constant << maybe expenses  
were disproportionately higher on the high receipts nights >>


But like I said, RARE. It is perfectly OK, maybe a good idea, that 
things needed by very few of us are not cluttering up the app for all of 
us. Things that if we want/need we can get, with a little trouble. I 
will  note that these tend to cluster. Taking myself as an example, 
keeping books for non-profits, would use the special reports that 
non-profits would want (or of new to it, example CoA for a non-profit) 
--- so would all the others keeping books for non-profits -- but other 
users of gnucash wouldn't use them.


Note that this is how many of the "for profit" accounting apps work. 
They sell you a version specific to your type of entity or line of 
business. That is why many of you complain this or that missing.


This is essentially the monolithic vs modular argument. I'll make no 
bones about being firmly on the side of the latter. MUCH easier to maintain.


Michael D Novack
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Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation

[Christopher Lam]

I'd think that it would be worthwhile to have a good set of debugged and
documented gold-standard reports.

There are far too many reports (*guilty as charged*); with many overlapping
and many obsolete ones which become hard to work on because they make
assumptions upon the data and are incredibly poorly documented -- it would
seem many prior report-writers have enthusiastically added their work, and
disappeared before explaining their work and report limitations. They also
add/duplicate a lot of infrastructure, adding (unpaid) work to maintainers.

Hence there is a general *need* for tightening infrastructure and removing
old dead code. Hence we want to figure out which reports are underused. The
candidate list seems very reasonable to make obsolete; any active users
will hopefully raise their hands and we can consider alternatives/reducing
the list.

On Tue, 21 May 2019 at 12:11, David T. via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

>
> I am not a fan of keeping reports that *no one uses* included in the
> application, on the offhand chance that some new user might decide to learn
> scheme and the gnucash api to write a new report. As noted in the bug, this
> has not been a particularly common occurrence.
>
> Geert's solution is a good compromise, IMHO.
>
> It would be easy enough to add a note to the Custom Reports wiki page to
> explain how a user would activate this.
>
> David
>
>
>   On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:24, Manfred Usselmann
> wrote:
>
> Hi Geert,
>
> Am 18.05.2019 14:20, schrieb Geert Janssens:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 [1]
> > This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on
> the
> > assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in
> > gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following
> reports:
> >
> > Average Balance
> > Expenses vs. Day of Week
> > Income vs. Day of Week
> > Sample Report with Examples
> >
> > Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate
> > "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu)
>
> IMO this is an excellent solution.
>
> > and hide this menu by
> > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra'
> > command line switch.
>
> Not sure that I like this. This would probably be the same as if they
> get deleted because nobody would know that these reports and this extra
> switch exists.
>
> I would just leave the examples menu visible.
>
> Regards,
> Manfred
>
> > If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which
> ones
> > and also how these reports benefit you in practice.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Geert
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Re: [GNC] Custom invoices don't work after upgrade

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

JB  writes:

> Hi,
> I have the same exact issue. 
> An error occurred when processing the template:
>
> Unbound variable: qof-book-get-slots
[snip]
>
> Is it possible to post the diff regarding(slots   
> (qof-book-get-slots book))  ?

The slots are now hidden under the implementation.  You will need to use
the specific getter APIs to get to the underlying data.

> This is the relevand portion of code:
[snip]
>(slots(qof-book-get-slots book))
>(coyname  (coy-info slots gnc:*company-name*))
>(coycontact   (coy-info slots gnc:*company-contact*))
>(coyaddr  (coy-info slots gnc:*company-addy*))
>(coyid(coy-info slots gnc:*company-id*))
>(coyphone (coy-info slots gnc:*company-phone*))
>(coyfax   (coy-info slots gnc:*company-fax*))
>(coyurl   (coy-info slots gnc:*company-url*))
>(coyemail (coy-info slots gnc:*company-email*))
>
> I used same invoice for about 6 years so I am interested to fix it. 

I don't know what "coy-info" is, but looking at the current invoice.scm
code, you will need to change these to, e.g.:
  (coyname  (gnc:company-info book gnc:*company-name*))
  ...

Hope this helps,

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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Impossible to generate reports.

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

You are trying to configure the way Windows displays HTML pages.
You are not configuring GnuCash.

As the instructions say:

* Select the bottom option "Set program access and computer defaults"
* You are then asked to chose a configuration:
* Extend the "Custom" configuration section by clicking on the double down 
arrow at the right (this step may not be necessary). If you are already using a 
"Custom" configuration, note the settings so you can go back to them once the 
problem is fixed.
* Scroll up then click on the radio button to use the "Microsoft Windows" 
configuration.

So once you select "Set program access and computer defaults" you need
to extend the Custom configuration section and then click on the radio
button for "Microsoft Windows" configuration.

Note:  I don't use Windows, so I am just helping you follow the
instructions provided by others.

-derek

cag...@free.fr writes:

> Derek
>
> Clue, FWIW: I installed GC on another computer, V2.6.21 as it is
> running Vista. The malfunction is the same.
>
> Alain
>
>
>
>  
>
> - Mail transféré -
> De: "Alain" 
> À: "Derek Atkins" 
> Cc: "gnucash-user" 
> Envoyé: Dimanche 19 Mai 2019 11:19:02
> Objet: Re: [GNC] Impossible to generate reports.
>
> Derek
>
> - I have waited for 5 minutes, to no avail.
> - I tried to follow the instructions. OK as far as ""Select the bottom
> option 'Set program access and computer defaults'".
> Then comes "You are then asked to chose a configuration".That's where
> I become confused (using Win10) because I don't know what I'm trying
> to achieve. Configure GnuCash? It's not in the list of apps available
> for configuration.
> Can you please clarify? Sorry to sound so dumb. 
>
> TIA
> Alain
>
>
>
> - Mail original -
> De: "Derek Atkins" 
> À: "Alain" 
> Cc: "gnucash-user" 
> Envoyé: Samedi 18 Mai 2019 14:07:06
> Objet: Re: [GNC] Impossible to generate reports.
>
> Sounds like
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_cannot_get_any_report_to_display_not_even_the_sample_reports._All_that_displays_is_an_empty_tab.
>
> Have you followed those instructions?
>
> Also, as Greg said, sometimes you have to wait a while (especially the
> first time) for a report.  How long have you waited for the report to
> draw?
>
> -derek
>
> On Sat, May 18, 2019 7:33 am, cag...@free.fr wrote:
>> I am using Windows 10.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> - Mail original -
>> De: "Derek Atkins" 
>> À: "Alain" , "gnucash-user" 
>> Envoyé: Samedi 18 Mai 2019 12:43:05
>> Objet: Re: [GNC] Impossible to generate reports.
>>
>> What OS/Distro are you using?
>>
>> -derek
>> Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
>> On May 18, 2019 5:36:40 AM cag...@free.fr wrote:
>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I have been using GC for years to my satisfaction.
>>>
>>> All of a sudden, I can't generate reports (balance sheet or result
>>> acount).
>>> The result is NOT a report with zeros, it's merely NO report at all. The
>>> page remains blank. This applies to all the folders (let's call them
>>> "companies") I'm managing.
>>>
>>> After searching the help archives, I checked that the currency is set to
>>> the one I'm using which is EUR.
>>>
>>> I was using version 3.2 so I installed 3.5.
>>>
>>> Still no result.
>>>
>>> Any help much appreciated.
>>> TIA
>>> Alain
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Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation

[David T. via gnucash-user]

I am not a fan of keeping reports that *no one uses* included in the 
application, on the offhand chance that some new user might decide to learn 
scheme and the gnucash api to write a new report. As noted in the bug, this has 
not been a particularly common occurrence. 

Geert's solution is a good compromise, IMHO.

It would be easy enough to add a note to the Custom Reports wiki page to 
explain how a user would activate this. 

David
 
 
  On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:24, Manfred Usselmann wrote: 
  

Hi Geert, 

Am 18.05.2019 14:20, schrieb Geert Janssens: 

> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 [1]
> This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on the 
> assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in 
> gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following reports:
> 
> Average Balance
> Expenses vs. Day of Week
> Income vs. Day of Week
> Sample Report with Examples
> 
> Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate 
> "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu)

IMO this is an excellent solution. 

> and hide this menu by 
> default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra' 
> command line switch.

Not sure that I like this. This would probably be the same as if they
get deleted because nobody would know that these reports and this extra
switch exists. 

I would just leave the examples menu visible. 

Regards,
Manfred 

> If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which ones 
> and also how these reports benefit you in practice.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Trans shows completed 5/8 but not in register?

[Jack Slater]

Will do. Thx for the help!

> On May 21, 2019, at 6:55 AM, Maf. King  wrote:
> 
>> On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:44:55 BST Jack Slater wrote:
>> At this point, after reopening accounts a few times with no result, I have
>> entered the transaction manually. We'll see how things go I guess.  I'd say
>> its certainly a bug.
>> 
> 
> 
> Keep an eye on it for the next time it is supposed to fire and see what 
> happens.  maybe just "one of those things" this time around?
> 
> or maybe a reproducible bug!
> 
> Maf.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Trans shows completed 5/8 but not in register?

[Maf. King]

On Tuesday, 21 May 2019 12:44:55 BST Jack Slater wrote:
> At this point, after reopening accounts a few times with no result, I have
> entered the transaction manually. We'll see how things go I guess.  I'd say
> its certainly a bug.
> 


Keep an eye on it for the next time it is supposed to fire and see what 
happens.  maybe just "one of those things" this time around?

or maybe a reproducible bug!

Maf.




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Re: [GNC] Scheduled Trans shows completed 5/8 but not in register?

[Jack Slater]

At this point, after reopening accounts a few times with no result, I have
entered the transaction manually. We'll see how things go I guess.  I'd say
its certainly a bug.

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 12:45 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> The lack of auto-refresh I seem to recall is a known bug. Closing and
> re-opening the offending account should show the transaction however.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On May 20, 2019, at 8:18 AM, Jack Lockard  wrote:
> >
> > I have found this same behavior. I either go on to entering a necessary
> manual transaction or closing and reopening the account and then the
> scheduled transaction shows up. For whatever reason, when a scheduled
> transaction is processed, the account register is not refreshed to have the
> transaction appear.
> >
> > Jack
>
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Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation

[Frank H. Ellenberger]

Hi all,

Am Di., 21. Mai 2019 um 08:53 Uhr schrieb Manfred Usselmann <
manf...@usselmann.de>:

>
>
> Hi Geert,
>
> Am 18.05.2019 14:20, schrieb Geert Janssens:
> :
> > and hide this menu by
> > default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra'
> > command line switch.
>
> Not sure that I like this. This would probably be the same as if they
> get deleted because nobody would know that these reports and this extra
> switch exists.
>
> I would just leave the examples menu visible.

+1

Regards Frank
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Re: [GNC] Custom invoices don't work after upgrade

[JB]

Hi,
I have the same exact issue. 
An error occurred when processing the template:

Unbound variable: qof-book-get-slots
In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
829:9  4 (catch _ _ # _)
In eguile-gnc.scm:
187:6  3 (eval-input)
187:6  2 (lp)
   191:13  1 (loop)
In ice-9/eval.scm:
619:8  0 (_ #(#(#(#(#) # # …) …) …))

Is it possible to post the diff regarding(slots   
(qof-book-get-slots book))  ?

This is the relevand portion of code:
   (book (gncInvoiceGetBook   opt-invoice))
   (postdate (gncInvoiceGetDatePosted opt-invoice))
   (duedate  (gncInvoiceGetDateDueopt-invoice))
   (billingid(gncInvoiceGetBillingID  opt-invoice))
   (notes(gncInvoiceGetNotes  opt-invoice))
   (terms(gncInvoiceGetTerms  opt-invoice))
   (termsdesc(gncBillTermGetDescription terms))
   (lot  (gncInvoiceGetPostedLot  opt-invoice))
   (txn  (gncInvoiceGetPostedTxn  opt-invoice))
   (currency (gncInvoiceGetCurrency   opt-invoice))
   (entries  (gncInvoiceGetEntriesopt-invoice))
   (splits  '())
   (slots(qof-book-get-slots book))
   (coyname  (coy-info slots gnc:*company-name*))
   (coycontact   (coy-info slots gnc:*company-contact*))
   (coyaddr  (coy-info slots gnc:*company-addy*))
   (coyid(coy-info slots gnc:*company-id*))
   (coyphone (coy-info slots gnc:*company-phone*))
   (coyfax   (coy-info slots gnc:*company-fax*))
   (coyurl   (coy-info slots gnc:*company-url*))
   (coyemail (coy-info slots gnc:*company-email*))

I used same invoice for about 6 years so I am interested to fix it. 



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Re: [GNC] Upcoming report deprecation

[Manfred Usselmann]

 

Hi Geert, 

Am 18.05.2019 14:20, schrieb Geert Janssens: 

> Hi,
> 
> I'm looking at https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=773198 [1]
> This bug proposes to remove a number of reports from the reports menu on the 
> assumption these reports are primarily demo's of what can be achieved in 
> gnucash, but have limited actual value. This is about the following reports:
> 
> Average Balance
> Expenses vs. Day of Week
> Income vs. Day of Week
> Sample Report with Examples
> 
> Instead of completely removing them I plan to move them to a separate 
> "Examples" sub menu (the former "Sample & Custom" menu)

IMO this is an excellent solution. 

> and hide this menu by 
> default. It could be made visible by running gnucash with the '--extra' 
> command line switch.

Not sure that I like this. This would probably be the same as if they
get deleted because nobody would know that these reports and this extra
switch exists. 

I would just leave the examples menu visible. 

Regards,
Manfred 

> If you are actively using any of these reports please let us know which ones 
> and also how these reports benefit you in practice.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
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