Re: [GNC] QIF File Format

[Charles Peter Avery]

Hello Peter,
 
Thank you for your response. I have pasted in below the first few lines in the 
CSV file (I changed the amounts and details to protect the data) that was 
created by Reckon (Quicken).
 

Charles
 
From: Peter West [mailto:p...@pbw.id.au] 
Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2019 4:35 PM
To: CharlieRyde 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF File Format
 
Hi Charlie,
 
The format of QIF files is discussed at this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicken_Interchange_Format
 
Does your CSV file have a header line or lines?  If so, can you post them?
 
There seems to be a “Hide header” option when exporting from Reckon to CSV.  
Make sure that is not set when you export.
 
Peter
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false prophets.”



On 12 Sep 2019, at 3:20 pm, CharlieRyde mailto:cav...@bigpond.net.au> > wrote:
 
I would appreciate your help and advice.
I am using Windows 10.  I have been using Reckon Accounts Premier Edition
2017 for the past 7 years. I have created a CSV file of all the general
ledger transactions through this time and I have purchased the CSV to QIF
software conversion tool.
I would like to convert the CSV general ledger transaction to a QIF file and
import this into GnuCash. I do not know what the column layout in the CSV
file should be nor do I know what the QIF file format should be and I am
finding it very difficult to find decent documentation or tutorials for the
column layout of the CSV file and the record formats in the QIF file.
Would you be able to assist me please?



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Re: [GNC] QIF File Format

[Peter West]

Hi Charlie,

The format of QIF files is discussed at this link:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quicken_Interchange_Format 


Does your CSV file have a header line or lines?  If so, can you post them?

There seems to be a “Hide header” option when exporting from Reckon to CSV.  
Make sure that is not set when you export.

Peter
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false prophets.”

> On 12 Sep 2019, at 3:20 pm, CharlieRyde  wrote:
> 
> I would appreciate your help and advice.
> I am using Windows 10.  I have been using Reckon Accounts Premier Edition
> 2017 for the past 7 years. I have created a CSV file of all the general
> ledger transactions through this time and I have purchased the CSV to QIF
> software conversion tool.
> I would like to convert the CSV general ledger transaction to a QIF file and
> import this into GnuCash. I do not know what the column layout in the CSV
> file should be nor do I know what the QIF file format should be and I am
> finding it very difficult to find decent documentation or tutorials for the
> column layout of the CSV file and the record formats in the QIF file.
> Would you be able to assist me please?
> 
> 
> 
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[GNC] QIF File Format

[CharlieRyde]

I would appreciate your help and advice.
I am using Windows 10.  I have been using Reckon Accounts Premier Edition
2017 for the past 7 years. I have created a CSV file of all the general
ledger transactions through this time and I have purchased the CSV to QIF
software conversion tool.
I would like to convert the CSV general ledger transaction to a QIF file and
import this into GnuCash. I do not know what the column layout in the CSV
file should be nor do I know what the QIF file format should be and I am
finding it very difficult to find decent documentation or tutorials for the
column layout of the CSV file and the record formats in the QIF file.
Would you be able to assist me please?



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Re: [GNC] small annoyance with 3.7

[Adrien Monteleone]

Bert,

I was about to say:

"Verify that Preferences > Register > Actions > ‘Enter’ moves to blank 
transaction is checked."

But I can confirm this is broken, and a bug was filed this morning:

https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797399

Transaction entry is quite a pain now with or without that setting selected. 
Hopefully it will be fixed soon.

Regards,
Adrien


> On Sep 11, 2019 w37d254, at 6:08 PM, Bert Riding  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I just installed gnucash 3.7 from the unstable repository for debian.
> It works as expected, but for one thing.  If I highlight an entry I
> can't move back to the bottom of the register without first making a
> change (any change, with or without reversing it) to the entry.  In
> previous versions the enter key or the "Record current
> transaction" button would be enough to return to a blank entry.
> 
> Thanks for continuing development on this great program that I have
> used for more than 15 years.
> 
> -- 
> Bert Riding 

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash cannot obtain the lock

[Adrien Monteleone]

Bob,

You probably want to find a Windows support forum or list. If I had a computer 
I couldn’t save to from any app, I’d want to fix that soon. At least you have a 
working storage with your thumb drive though.

As for your last point, I’m not certain exactly what you mean, but if it is 
with respect to quoted replies here on the list, simply cutting out the 
non-relevant parts of the quoted material is sufficient.

Since your on digest mode for the list, you could also simply find the message 
you are replying to, highlight the portion of concern you want to reply to and 
*then* hit your reply-list/reply-all button. That way, only that selected text 
will be quoted rather than the entire digest.

Either method works, but the second one is probably less work. (don’t forget to 
change the subject line to something more meaningful like before rather than 
‘Digest...')

Best of luck.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Sep 11, 2019 w37d254, at 6:27 PM, Bob Hammons  wrote:
> 
> I still have same problem.
> I did restarts as per suggestions.
> I am using my thumb drive now and don't have any problems.
> I can copy open office files to thumb drive and they seem to work correctly.
> I ran chkdsk and all the windows suggestions from settings page.  Disabled 
> fast startup.  All reports seemed good.
> I think my permissions are right but i will keep checking.  I found one dir 
> that had a read only attribute and changed that.
> Thanks again for your help and time.  I am not sure how to send only my info 
> so I deleted some of this e mail


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[GNC] small annoyance with 3.7

[Bert Riding]

Hi,

I just installed gnucash 3.7 from the unstable repository for debian.
It works as expected, but for one thing.  If I highlight an entry I
can't move back to the bottom of the register without first making a
change (any change, with or without reversing it) to the entry.  In
previous versions the enter key or the "Record current
transaction" button would be enough to return to a blank entry.

Thanks for continuing development on this great program that I have
used for more than 15 years.

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 198, Issue 21

[Bob Hammons]

I still have same problem.
I did restarts as per suggestions.
I am using my thumb drive now and don't have any problems.
I can copy open office files to thumb drive and they seem to work correctly.
I ran chkdsk and all the windows suggestions from settings page.  Disabled fast 
startup.  All reports seemed good.
I think my permissions are right but i will keep checking.  I found one dir 
that had a read only attribute and changed that.
Thanks again for your help and time.  I am not sure how to send only my info so 
I deleted some of this e mail


From: gnucash-user  on 
behalf of gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org 
Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2019 8:05 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 198, Issue 21

Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to
gnucash-user@gnucash.org


   1. Re:  Can't seem to load custom reports (Geert Janssens)
   2. Re:  Gnucash cannot obtain the lock (Adrien Monteleone)
   3. Re:  Can't seem to load custom reports (Adrien Monteleone)
   4. Re:  gnucash-user Digest, Vol 198, Issue 17 (Stephen M. Butler)
   5.  Setting up account (Brenda Morton)
   6. Re:  GnuCash 3.7 and Reports (John Morris)
   7. Re:  GnuCash 3.7 and Reports (Adrien Monteleone)
   8. Re:  Setting up account (David Carlson)
   9. Re:  Gnucash cannot obtain the lock (Liz)
  10. Re:  Gnucash cannot obtain the lock (A Harvey)


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2019 13:49:12 -0500
From: Adrien Monteleone 
To: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash cannot obtain the lock
Message-ID: <3c560318-010d-4425-91e4-91696c061...@lusfiber.net>
Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8

> On Sep 10, 2019 w37d253, at 1:30 PM, Bob Hammons  wrote:
>
> I did find some .lck file on my computer.  Some of them I could delete but 
> not all.  When I start the program it updates the .lck file to the present 
> time.

If GnuCash is closed and there are .lck files in the directory where you save 
your GnuCash files (with the same names, save for the .lck extension) then you 
should be able to delete them. If they are being re-created with present time 
stamps that means those files *are* open somewhere. (same goes for OpenOffice 
.lck files as likely others)

> I have re booted the computer a couple of times.  Shouldn't this close any 
> open files?

It should, but some computers don?t ?cold? reboot, this might be the case if 
you are using the ?restart? option in Windows rather than ?Shutdown? and then 
pressing the power button to turn it back on. (and even with pressing the power 
button to turn off, sometimes, the darn things just ?hibernate? as a 
convenience.)

Shutdown, pull power, and if a laptop, pull the battery. Wait a minute, plug it 
all back up. Power up. Now, you?ve truly rebooted.

> I think I have all administration rights.
> How do I check for open files ?

Not sure on Win10. I?d think a web search should turn up something you could 
run in cmd.exe though.

> I log in with a pin number to my .live account

I think that?s pretty standard for MS now with Win10. (or what they?d like you 
to do)

> I opened a small Open Office spreadsheet and it will not save changes  
> "General input/output error while accessing C:\ dir

If other apps can?t save either then it is definitely an OS problem. (or 
something is wrong with the drive)

> I then copied same file to the same thumb drive,  opened the file,  made 
> changes,  the file saved successfully.
> I have looked all settings but can find nothing
> So it appears it is my computer problem ant not  a Gnucash problem.
> I still would like any more suggestions that anyone comes up with.
>
> Thanks for your time

A quick web search indicates possible causes might be related to disk 
encryption issues. Do you have BitLocker turned on? Are you certain that you 
successfully logged in to *your* account? Can you save any file at all to the 
internal drive? (try copying something from the thumb)

I?m afraid I?m out of guesses beyond that point.

Regards,
Adrien

p.s. - when replying, especially to digest messages, please fix the subject 
line so it is more meaningful and trim non-relevant quoted material. That last 
post was several feet long!


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Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2019 18:53:27 +1000
From: Liz 
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Gnucash cannot obtain the lock
Message-ID: <20190911185327.3842b...@billiau.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 13:49:12 -0500
Adrien Monteleone  wrote:

> It should, but some computers don?t ?cold? reboot, this might be the
> case if you are using the ?restart? option in Windows rather than
> ?Shutdown? and then pressing the power button to turn it back on.
> (and even with pressing the power button to turn off, sometimes, the
> darn things just ?hibernate? as a convenience.)

I think that Windows 10 only does a full reboot if you choos

Re: [GNC] Assign one payment to multiple invoices (from several customers)

[Adrien Monteleone]

Interesting use case, and that an app has implemented it.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Sep 11, 2019 w37d254, at 4:24 PM, Geert Janssens 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Odoo supports this.
> 
> And I use this feature to apply a grouped salary payment to each employee's 
> payroll ('invoice').
> 
> That is the support company that handles our payroll administration charges 
> one payment per month from our bank account but that charge is to be split 
> over separate 'invoices', one per employee.
> 
> The suspense account in gnucash works, but in Odoo I can assign all the 
> employee invoices to the single payment in one go.
> 
> I must admit it's quite handy.
> 
> Having said all that I think getting such a feature in gnucash will probably 
> require breaking a few design assumptions. So that would mean a major change. 
> I don't see this happening anytime soon :(
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert


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Re: [GNC] Assign one payment to multiple invoices (from several customers)

[Geert Janssens]

Op woensdag 11 september 2019 23:14:13 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> > On Sep 11, 2019 w37d254, at 3:26 PM, Fred Smith via gnucash-user  wrote:
> >> Right.  Why would a customer pay someone else's invoice?
> > 
> > Parent company paying utilities for its child companies?
> 
> Parents paying on their kids accounts, children paying for their parents,
> siblings paying the same. People who each have their own accounts and
> making a payment, but sharing a particular invoice that had to go under
> someone else’s name. (the sibling case is common here, like all paying for
> a gift for the parents that was on one siblings account)
> 
> It happens. Maybe not with more frequency than a few times per year unless
> you’ve got some sort of corporate arrangement like Fred noted, but it does
> happen.
> 
> As both Derek and I mentioned, a separate suspense account will suffice. Or
> as I also noted, taking the payment entirely from one customer as both
> regular payment and overpayment, then ‘refunding’ the overpayment and
> applying it to the other customer will also work. (One A/R program I used
> required just that workflow)
> 
> I can’t see offering this as a specific feature for such a small use case. I
> don’t know of any other accounting/pos/receivables software that offers
> this either, so it isn’t like GnuCash is the odd-one-out here.

Odoo supports this.

And I use this feature to apply a grouped salary payment to each employee's 
payroll ('invoice').

That is the support company that handles our payroll administration charges 
one payment per month from our bank account but that charge is to be split 
over separate 'invoices', one per employee.

The suspense account in gnucash works, but in Odoo I can assign all the 
employee invoices to the single payment in one go.

I must admit it's quite handy.

Having said all that I think getting such a feature in gnucash will probably 
require breaking a few design assumptions. So that would mean a major change. 
I don't see this happening anytime soon :(

Regards,

Geert


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Re: [GNC] Assign one payment to multiple invoices (from several customers)

[Adrien Monteleone]

> On Sep 11, 2019 w37d254, at 3:26 PM, Fred Smith via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Right.  Why would a customer pay someone else's invoice?
> 
> Parent company paying utilities for its child companies?

Parents paying on their kids accounts, children paying for their parents, 
siblings paying the same. People who each have their own accounts and making a 
payment, but sharing a particular invoice that had to go under someone else’s 
name. (the sibling case is common here, like all paying for a gift for the 
parents that was on one siblings account)

It happens. Maybe not with more frequency than a few times per year unless 
you’ve got some sort of corporate arrangement like Fred noted, but it does 
happen.

As both Derek and I mentioned, a separate suspense account will suffice. Or as 
I also noted, taking the payment entirely from one customer as both regular 
payment and overpayment, then ‘refunding’ the overpayment and applying it to 
the other customer will also work. (One A/R program I used required just that 
workflow)

I can’t see offering this as a specific feature for such a small use case. I 
don’t know of any other accounting/pos/receivables software that offers this 
either, so it isn’t like GnuCash is the odd-one-out here.


Regards,
Adrien
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Re: [GNC] Assign one payment to multiple invoices (from several customers)

[Fred Smith via gnucash-user]

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 01:09:18PM -0400, Derek Atkins wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Bat  writes:
> 
> > Hi
> >
> > this is a subject that appears regularly on the mailing list, but I
> > can not find fine answer neither plan to improve the situation.
> 
> Um, no, it does not appear regularly.  Indeed, this is the first time in
> 19 years that someone has asked about paying invoices for multiple
> customers with a single payment.
> 
> > Some of my customers often pay for their invoices plus for the one of
> > other customer. So I get one payment (with one reference) to split to
> > multiple invoices.
> 
> Color me confused, but why would one customer be paying invoices for
> another customer?  Do you pay your neighbor's power bill as well as your
> own with one payment?
> 
> > The distribution of one payment to several invoices is natural through
> > business features if the invoices are for the same customer. But not
> > if the invoices belong to several customers.
> 
> Right.  Why would a customer pay someone else's invoice?

Parent company paying utilities for its child companies?
> 
> > So today, I record the payment on the customer’s invoice, go into the
> > AR account and verify the splits of the transaction, go into Action ->
> > Lots to manually remove the other split from the customer payment lot
> > and assign it to the other customer invoice lot.
> >
> > Is – there a better way to do that ?
> 
> There is no way to split a single payment across customers, and I don't
> see that ever being supported.  However, you can work around it by using
> a suspense account where you process payment for the different customers
> into the suspense account, and then manually transfer that suspense
> account to your bank.
> 
> I'll note that this approach works for single payments for multiple
> customers, or even multiple payments for a single customer -- all of
> which get deposited together.
> 
> > Is – there a plan to allow selecting several customers invoices in
> > manage a payment GUI ?
> 
> No.
> 
> > Thanks
> 
> -derek
> 
> -- 
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Re: [GNC] Assign one payment to multiple invoices (from several customers)

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

Bat  writes:

> Hi
>
> this is a subject that appears regularly on the mailing list, but I
> can not find fine answer neither plan to improve the situation.

Um, no, it does not appear regularly.  Indeed, this is the first time in
19 years that someone has asked about paying invoices for multiple
customers with a single payment.

> Some of my customers often pay for their invoices plus for the one of
> other customer. So I get one payment (with one reference) to split to
> multiple invoices.

Color me confused, but why would one customer be paying invoices for
another customer?  Do you pay your neighbor's power bill as well as your
own with one payment?

> The distribution of one payment to several invoices is natural through
> business features if the invoices are for the same customer. But not
> if the invoices belong to several customers.

Right.  Why would a customer pay someone else's invoice?

> So today, I record the payment on the customer’s invoice, go into the
> AR account and verify the splits of the transaction, go into Action ->
> Lots to manually remove the other split from the customer payment lot
> and assign it to the other customer invoice lot.
>
> Is – there a better way to do that ?

There is no way to split a single payment across customers, and I don't
see that ever being supported.  However, you can work around it by using
a suspense account where you process payment for the different customers
into the suspense account, and then manually transfer that suspense
account to your bank.

I'll note that this approach works for single payments for multiple
customers, or even multiple payments for a single customer -- all of
which get deposited together.

> Is – there a plan to allow selecting several customers invoices in
> manage a payment GUI ?

No.

> Thanks

-derek

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash cannot obtain the lock

[Adrien Monteleone]

Nothing like an OS getting in the way of what you want to do with your own 
machine, redefining the meaning of common words, and changing long held 
paradigms and workflows...

Thanks for the education.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Sep 11, 2019 w37d254, at 10:04 AM, A Harvey  wrote:
> 
> Here's an article that confirms what Liz said. It also shows how to change
> Windows 10 behavior in this regard.
> 
> https://www.howtogeek.com/349114/shutting-down-doesnt-fully-shut-down-windows-10-but-restarting-it-does/
> 
> -Arthur
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:55 AM Liz  wrote:
> 
>> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 13:49:12 -0500
>> Adrien Monteleone  wrote:
>> 
>>> It should, but some computers don’t ‘cold’ reboot, this might be the
>>> case if you are using the ‘restart’ option in Windows rather than
>>> ‘Shutdown’ and then pressing the power button to turn it back on.
>>> (and even with pressing the power button to turn off, sometimes, the
>>> darn things just ‘hibernate’ as a convenience.)
>> 
>> I think that Windows 10 only does a full reboot if you choose "restart".
>> I decline to be a Windows expert, and am happy if someone else can
>> comment.
>> 
>> Liz

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash cannot obtain the lock

[A Harvey]

Here's an article that confirms what Liz said. It also shows how to change
Windows 10 behavior in this regard.

https://www.howtogeek.com/349114/shutting-down-doesnt-fully-shut-down-windows-10-but-restarting-it-does/

-Arthur


On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:55 AM Liz  wrote:

> On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 13:49:12 -0500
> Adrien Monteleone  wrote:
>
> > It should, but some computers don’t ‘cold’ reboot, this might be the
> > case if you are using the ‘restart’ option in Windows rather than
> > ‘Shutdown’ and then pressing the power button to turn it back on.
> > (and even with pressing the power button to turn off, sometimes, the
> > darn things just ‘hibernate’ as a convenience.)
>
> I think that Windows 10 only does a full reboot if you choose "restart".
> I decline to be a Windows expert, and am happy if someone else can
> comment.
>
> Liz
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash cannot obtain the lock

[Liz]

On Tue, 10 Sep 2019 13:49:12 -0500
Adrien Monteleone  wrote:

> It should, but some computers don’t ‘cold’ reboot, this might be the
> case if you are using the ‘restart’ option in Windows rather than
> ‘Shutdown’ and then pressing the power button to turn it back on.
> (and even with pressing the power button to turn off, sometimes, the
> darn things just ‘hibernate’ as a convenience.)

I think that Windows 10 only does a full reboot if you choose "restart".
I decline to be a Windows expert, and am happy if someone else can
comment.

Liz
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