[GNC] Bank expects particular TRNUID format in OFX message

[xngin]

Hi,

I have an example of a working OFX request to my bank, and the one sent by
AqBanking that comes with GnuCash 3.7. 

AqBanking sends 20190919210217.000 and the bank reports invalid
characters in a field.
Changing it to b6b1d422-c9ba-410a-ae7d-d72f51fbadff solves the issue
and data comes back.

An identical issue was discussed years ago here:
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2013-July/050035.html

I cannot find an AqBanking option to force a UUID in TRNUID. Does it exist?
Are there workarounds?
Thank you.



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Re: [GNC] Invoice report error

[Christopher Lam]

This particular issue can be solved by the following patch to
owner-report.scm.

modified   gnucash/report/business-reports/owner-report.scm
@@ -748,8 +748,8 @@
  (end-date (gnc:time64-end-day-time
(gnc:date-option-absolute-time
(opt-val gnc:pagename-general optname-to-date
- (book (gnc-account-get-book account))
+ (book (gnc-get-current-book))
 (date-format (if (not (null? book)) (gnc:options-fancy-date book)))

On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 06:13, Michiel Uitdehaag 
wrote:

> I select 'invoice Report' from the Customer context menu. Which report it
> is actually I don't know.
>
> The problem is/was that there was no A/R account. I can understand that
> programming a correct prerequisites check into the report in Scheme might
> be complex, but the error message is completely unclear.
>
> I am currently running into consistent segfaults with my local builds on
> Ubuntu 16.04, so it is kinda frustrating to work with.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michiel
>
> Op 14 sep. 2019 7:48 a.m. schreef Christopher Lam <
> christopher@gmail.com>:
>
> This is not an invoice-report. This is either customer, vendor or job
> report.
> There must be something unusual in the AP/AR account selection in the
> General tab in options.
> Or there may be something from a previous installation which must be
> cleared properly.
>
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2019 at 05:32, michielu  wrote:
>
> I just compiled and installed the 3.7 Gnucash version as offered on the
> front-page.
>
> When I try to run an invoice report on my existing gnucash file, I get:
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>  157: 17 [catch #t # ...]
> In unknown file:
>?: 16 [apply-smob/1 #]
> In {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/libgnucash/app-utils/c-interface.scm:
>   22: 15 [gnc:call-with-error-handling "(gnc:report-run 0)" ()]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>  157: 14 [catch #t ...]
> In {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/libgnucash/app-utils/c-interface.scm:
>   27: 13 [# {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/libgnucash/app-utils/c-interface.scm:23:6 ()>]
> In unknown file:
>?: 12 [eval-string "(gnc:report-run 0)" #]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
> 2401: 11 [save-module-excursion # ice-9/eval-string.scm:65:9 ()>]
> In ice-9/eval-string.scm:
>   44: 10 [read-and-eval # #:lang ...]
>   37: 9 [lp (gnc:report-run 0)]
> In {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/gnucash/report/report-system/report.scm:
>  776: 8 [gnc:report-run 0]
> In {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/libgnucash/app-utils/c-interface.scm:
>   64: 7 [gnc:backtrace-if-exception # {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/gnucash/report/report-system/report.scm:777:5 ()>]
>   22: 6 [gnc:call-with-error-handling # {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/gnucash/report/report-system/report.scm:777:5 ()>
> ...]
> In ice-9/boot-9.scm:
>  157: 5 [catch #t ...]
> In {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/libgnucash/app-utils/c-interface.scm:
>   26: 4 [# {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/libgnucash/app-utils/c-interface.scm:23:6 ()>]
> In /home/michiel/dev/gnucash-3.7/gnucash/report/report-system/report.scm:
>  780: 3 [# {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/gnucash/report/report-system/report.scm:777:5 ()>]
>  754: 2 [gnc:report-render-html # #t]
> In {INSTALL}/gnucash-3.7/gnucash/report/business-reports/owner-report.scm:
>  740: 1 [reg-renderer #]
> In unknown file:
>?: 0 [gnc-account-get-book #f]
>
> ERROR: In procedure gnc-account-get-book: Wrong type argument in position
> 1:
> #f
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Bank check - debit and credit?

[ornd25]

"For a one off for a personal account i would record it as follows. You willnot 
normally be notified by the bank when the bank cheque is cleared sothere is 
little point in having a clearing account as you might for personalcheques. As 
Mike points out it isor may be a negotiable instrument and maynot necessarily 
be cashed by the receiver. That is not really your concernonly the receiver's 
and the banks. The only other possibility is that manybanks will charge a fee 
for issuing a bank cheque:
DR   CRAsset:Checking Account
Expense:Bank Fees   Expense:Repairs 
  where  = +   and  is the amount of the bank 
check.I would record in the Description and/or memo fields for the expense that 
itwas a bank cheque and the bank cheque number and you would record your 
owncheque number made out to the bank as you would normally for any otherch
 eck.Recording the details is useful should the bank cheque not be cashed by 
therecipient - unlikely if a business but it has happened in cases where it 
hasbeen posted to someone and not been received. The bank can track down if 
itwas cashed and by whom if necessary.David Cousens"

Thank you - I appreciate the answers. This issue is resolved.


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Re: [GNC] Bank check - debit and credit?

[David Cousens]

For a one off for a personal account i would record it as follows. You will
not normally be notified by the bank when the bank cheque is cleared so
there is little point in having a clearing account as you might for personal
cheques. As Mike points out it isor may be a negotiable instrument and may
not necessarily be cashed by the receiver. That is not really your concern
only the receiver's and the banks. The only other possibility is that many
banks will charge a fee for issuing a bank cheque:

DR   CR
Asset:Checking Account
Expense:Bank Fees   
Expense:Repairs   


where  = +   and  is the amount of the bank check.

I would record in the Description and/or memo fields for the expense that it
was a bank cheque and the bank cheque number and you would record your own
cheque number made out to the bank as you would normally for any other
check.

Recording the details is useful should the bank cheque not be cashed by the
recipient - unlikely if a business but it has happened in cases where it has
been posted to someone and not been received. The bank can track down if it
was cashed and by whom if necessary.

David Cousens




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[GNC] GNC] Bank check - debit and credit?

[ornd25]

"a) ...Your purchase of one is just an asset transfer transaction. When and if 
used to pay an expense* that transaction would be debit expense and credit this 
asset. The reason I put the asterisk is often the bank check is needed to 
purchase an expensive asset (car, house, art work, etc.) so the debit side 
would be for some fixed asset,not an expense.
Michael D Novack"

This appears to be my answer. Some of my accounts are doing this... Cr 
checking, Dr assets:art?

If that's the case I can rid myself of the confusion of trying to use the Cash 
account.


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Re: [GNC] Bank check - debit and credit?

[ornd25]

On 9/19/2019 9:20 AM, orn...@tutanota.com wrote:

>> How does one debit and credit for a bank check when the person/company 
>> doesn't want to accept a personal check? I usually forgo reality and just 
>> record that I sent the personal check directly to the individual, but that's 
>> not exactly what happens.
>>
>
> I think this depends on how fancy you want to be. Perhaps not unrelated 
> to how you enter OTHER "check" transactions for which there is no check 
> number like automatic payments, one time electronic payments, etc.
>
> IF the money (for purchase  the bank check) came from the checking 
> account, I'd probably treat is as a numberless check putting into the 
> description column something like "bank check to..." instead of just 
> the payee. 
>
> Michael D Novack
>
Mike, 

That's the way I was doing it previously, but persuaded myself that I should 
track it "properly." My original question meant, "I give the bank check number 
527 for cash or made out to the bank for $75, so Cr Checking, Dr bank. Then 
they hand me a cashier's check - is that "other income?" Then I give the check 
to the repair service - what am I to Dr and Cr at that point.

As I said, that was my original question, and I withdraw it; I will call check 
number 527 "Repair Service - Bank Check." That's close enough for personal 
expenses. Thanks.

For what it's worth, I do "number" my electronic payments with the next paper 
checks in order, then I destroy the paper checks. This allows me to sort by 
check number and find the payment, though I do add in Notes: "ePay - numbered 
for convenience." Then I add the pseudo numbers to the balance statement.

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Re: [GNC] Bank check - debit and credit?

[Mike or Penny Novack]

On 9/19/2019 10:35 AM, orn...@tutanota.com wrote:


Let me expand a little. This is for personal use, such as the purchase of artwork or a 
service, so its purpose is not for a business. Recent examples were for repair of a 
vintage fountain pen or a wrist watch. The repairers asked for a bank check, so I wrote a 
check to the bank for cash, the bank then gave me a "bank check," which I sent 
to the repairer.

What are the mechanics of double entry debits and credits? If I write the check 
to the bank do I then have to show income to bring it back in?
 a) If this is frequent, I would probably create an account for 
"negotiable instruments" (or just "bank checks" if that's the only type 
dealt with). Your purchase of one is just an asset transfer transaction. 
When and if used to pay an expense* that transaction would be debit 
expense and credit this asset. The reason I put the asterisk is often 
the bank check is needed to purchase an expensive asset (car, house, art 
work, etc.) so the debit side would be for some fixed asset,not an expense.


b) If you are bringing it back in (never used) that would not be income 
but again an asset transfer transaction. That is actually a fairly 
frequent use of a bank check, needed if taking part in an auction in 
case you are high bidder but otherwise returned to the bank.


Michael D Novack
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Re: [GNC] Bank check - debit and credit?

[Stephen M. Butler]

On 9/19/19 6:20 AM, orn...@tutanota.com wrote:
> How does one debit and credit for a bank check when the person/company 
> doesn't want to accept a personal check? I usually forgo reality and just 
> record that I sent the personal check directly to the individual, but that's 
> not exactly what happens.

Almost all of my check payments are made via the bank's online bill
paying system.  Even personal folks (yes, there are a few hand written
checks).  I make no difference between them or ACH transactions that are
initiated based of use of the debit card.  Well, one small difference. 
Hand written checks have their check number recorded in GnC.  Others
have no check number recorded even though the bank does have a number
that I could use for that purpose.

Many of the "bank" checks end up being electronically delivered though
some of them are printed and mailed by the bank to the recipient. I
treat them all the same way.  A transaction between the checking account
asset account and some expense (or liability) account.

I hope I understood your question correctly.

--Steve

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash crashes after upgrade

[Geert Janssens]

Op donderdag 19 september 2019 15:45:06 CEST schreef Brian M. Sutin:
> Thank you. How do I generate a gnucash.trace file?
> 
http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile

> > Op donderdag 19 september 2019 04:42:36 CEST schreef Brian M. Sutin:
> > > I installed 3.7 from flatpak, but then I couldn't find the executable.
> > 
> > There is no "executable" with flatpak. You use the command
> > flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash
> > to start the gnucash flatpak
> > 
> > > So, I
> > > uninstalled the flatpak, downloaded the source and compiled it. I also
> > > deleted every single .XXX file in my home directory that had 'gnucash'
> > > in
> > > the title. Oddly, even with all initialization files deleted, gnucash
> > > 3.7
> > > still finds by Gnucash accounts file, and complains that it is locked.
> > > Second, it still crashes.
> > > 
> > > Question 1: How did Gnucash 3.7 find my previous accounts file and the
> > > lock? Where is that information stored?
> > 
> > GnuCash keeps a history of opened files in the gsettings database. On
> > linux
> > gsettings uses dconf as backend, so you can use dconf-editor to check and
> > modify that info.
> > 
> > > Question 2: Now that I have a recent version that core dumps, what do I
> > > need to post to spelunk the problem? Or do I post that elsewhere?
> > 
> > If you're about to post core dumps (or backtraces) I think this is better
> > done in a bug report than on the mailing list. Mail messages tend to wrap
> > lines which make the data hard to process.
> > 
> > Other useful information would be the contents of your gnucash.trace file
> > and the output on the console.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Geert
> > 
> > > > Thank you, everyone. I think I will wait for the next version to come
> > > > out next month and try it out then. If I am going to install it by
> > > > hand, I might as well install the latest.
> > > > 
> > > > > Op zaterdag 24 augustus 2019 20:17:50 CEST schreef 
gnuca...@skewray.com:
> > > > > > A year or two ago I was running Ubuntu 16.10. When I upgraded to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > next
> > > > > > Ubuntu version, Gnucash did some moving and reformatting of my
> > > > > > config
> > > > > > files. When I ran Gnucash, it would hang up inside any register
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > crash.  I 'solved' the problem by running 2.6.12 in Virtualbox on
> > > > > > Ubuntu 16.04, which is what I've been doing ever since.  Ubuntu
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > upgraded a few times, and the issue persists.  The current version
> > > > > > that still doesn't work is Gnucash 3.4.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Is this a known issue? Is ther a previous thread in this list that
> > > > > > addresses this?  If not, how would I go about starting to debug
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > issue?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Places where config files seem to be:
> > > > > > .config/gnucash
> > > > > > .gconf/apps/gnucash
> > > > > > .gnucash/books/Gnucash
> > > > > > .local/share/gnucash/books
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > I don't know which of these is from before the conversion and
> > > > > > which
> > > > > > are new. The problem might also be in a library, I guess.
> > > > > 
> > > > > A few more bits that were omitted or glossed over in the other
> > > > > responses:
> > > > > 
> > > > > .gconf/apps/gnucash predates even gnucash 2.6. If you have no
> > > > > intention
> > > > > to
> > > > > rerun gnucash 2.4, you can safely remove this.
> > > > > Of the others
> > > > > .gnucash/ is the config directory used by gnucash2.6
> > > > > .config/gnucash and .local/share/gnucash are used by gnucash 3.x
> > > > > 
> > > > > If you have been running gnucash in a VM, and now run gnucash on
> > > > > your
> > > > > main
> > > > > system, obviously it won't find the config data stored in your VM.
> > > > > If
> > > > > you
> > > > > would like gnucash to redo the config data conversion for you,
> > > > > you'll
> > > > > have to 1. copy everything from .gnucash/ in your VM to .gnucash/ on
> > > > > your main system 2. delete .local/share/gnucash and .config/gnucash
> > > > > from your main system 3. start gnucash
> > > > > 
> > > > > As others have noted, if that still crashes, we're need more details
> > > > > to
> > > > > determine the root cause. A trace file would be useful [1] or if you
> > > > > know how to use the gdb debugger tool, a backtrace usually holds
> > > > > more
> > > > > details still.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Geert
> > > > > 
> > > > > [1] http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile
> > > > 
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Re: [GNC] Bank check - debit and credit?

[ornd25]

> You left out a few details.  Is this a business expense?  Or is it something 
> else?  In the accounting world, purpose is the driving force.  
>
> If you are just concerned about the mechanics of the money flow, you would 
> show a conversion to cash or whatever medium you used as an intermediate 
> step. That, of course requires appropriate accounts, such as petty cash, for 
> example.
>
> David Carlson
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:22 AM <> orn...@tutanota.com 
> > > wrote:
>
>> How does one debit and credit for a bank check when the person/company 
>> doesn't want to accept a personal check? I usually forgo reality and just 
>> record that I sent the personal check directly to the individual, but that's 
>> not exactly what happens.
>>
Let me expand a little. This is for personal use, such as the purchase of 
artwork or a service, so its purpose is not for a business. Recent examples 
were for repair of a vintage fountain pen or a wrist watch. The repairers asked 
for a bank check, so I wrote a check to the bank for cash, the bank then gave 
me a "bank check," which I sent to the repairer. 

What are the mechanics of double entry debits and credits? If I write the check 
to the bank do I then have to show income to bring it back in?

As I mentioned, I ended up showing a check written to the repairer, rather than 
reflecting the actual purchase of a bank check.
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Re: [GNC] Bank check - debit and credit?

[David Carlson]

You left out a few details.  Is this a business expense?  Or is it
something else?  In the accounting world, purpose is the driving force.

If you are just concerned about the mechanics of the money flow, you would
show a conversion to cash or whatever medium you used as an intermediate
step. That, of course requires appropriate accounts, such as petty cash,
for example.

David Carlson

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 9:22 AM  wrote:

> How does one debit and credit for a bank check when the person/company
> doesn't want to accept a personal check? I usually forgo reality and just
> record that I sent the personal check directly to the individual, but
> that's not exactly what happens.
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Bank check - debit and credit?

[Mike or Penny Novack]

On 9/19/2019 9:20 AM, orn...@tutanota.com wrote:

How does one debit and credit for a bank check when the person/company doesn't 
want to accept a personal check? I usually forgo reality and just record that I 
sent the personal check directly to the individual, but that's not exactly what 
happens.


I think this depends on how fancy you want to be. Perhaps not unrelated 
to how you enter OTHER "check" transactions for which there is no check 
number like automatic payments, one time electronic payments, etc.


IF the money (for purchase  the bank check) came from the checking 
account, I'd probably treat is as a numberless check putting into the 
description column something like "bank check to..." instead of just 
the payee. But if there was going to be a significant delay before the 
bank check/cashiers check was handed over might treat it as an asset << 
it perhaps is NOT likely to be actually used, say necessary to take part 
in bidding, but only used if one wins the auction >>


But I am NOT an accountant. Just quite aware that this is normal 
procedure for certain sorts of transactions.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash crashes after upgrade

[Brian M. Sutin]

Thank you. How do I generate a gnucash.trace file?

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On Thu, Sep 19, 2019, at 12:26 AM, Geert Janssens wrote:
> Op donderdag 19 september 2019 04:42:36 CEST schreef Brian M. Sutin:
> > I installed 3.7 from flatpak, but then I couldn't find the executable.
> 
> There is no "executable" with flatpak. You use the command
> flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash
> to start the gnucash flatpak
> 
> > So, I
> > uninstalled the flatpak, downloaded the source and compiled it. I also
> > deleted every single .XXX file in my home directory that had 'gnucash' in
> > the title. Oddly, even with all initialization files deleted, gnucash 3.7
> > still finds by Gnucash accounts file, and complains that it is locked.
> > Second, it still crashes.
> > 
> > Question 1: How did Gnucash 3.7 find my previous accounts file and the lock?
> > Where is that information stored?
> > 
> GnuCash keeps a history of opened files in the gsettings database. On linux 
> gsettings uses dconf as backend, so you can use dconf-editor to check and 
> modify that info.
> 
> > Question 2: Now that I have a recent version that core dumps, what do I need
> > to post to spelunk the problem? Or do I post that elsewhere?
> 
> If you're about to post core dumps (or backtraces) I think this is better 
> done 
> in a bug report than on the mailing list. Mail messages tend to wrap lines 
> which make the data hard to process.
> 
> Other useful information would be the contents of your gnucash.trace file and 
> the output on the console.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> > > Thank you, everyone. I think I will wait for the next version to come
> > > out next month and try it out then. If I am going to install it by
> > > hand, I might as well install the latest.
> > > 
> > > > Op zaterdag 24 augustus 2019 20:17:50 CEST schreef gnuca...@skewray.com:
> > > > > A year or two ago I was running Ubuntu 16.10. When I upgraded to the
> > > > > next
> > > > > Ubuntu version, Gnucash did some moving and reformatting of my config
> > > > > files. When I ran Gnucash, it would hang up inside any register and
> > > > > crash.  I 'solved' the problem by running 2.6.12 in Virtualbox on
> > > > > Ubuntu 16.04, which is what I've been doing ever since.  Ubuntu has
> > > > > upgraded a few times, and the issue persists.  The current version
> > > > > that still doesn't work is Gnucash 3.4.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Is this a known issue? Is ther a previous thread in this list that
> > > > > addresses this?  If not, how would I go about starting to debug the
> > > > > issue?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Places where config files seem to be:
> > > > > .config/gnucash
> > > > > .gconf/apps/gnucash
> > > > > .gnucash/books/Gnucash
> > > > > .local/share/gnucash/books
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't know which of these is from before the conversion and which
> > > > > are new. The problem might also be in a library, I guess.
> > > > 
> > > > A few more bits that were omitted or glossed over in the other
> > > > responses:
> > > > 
> > > > .gconf/apps/gnucash predates even gnucash 2.6. If you have no intention
> > > > to
> > > > rerun gnucash 2.4, you can safely remove this.
> > > > Of the others
> > > > .gnucash/ is the config directory used by gnucash2.6
> > > > .config/gnucash and .local/share/gnucash are used by gnucash 3.x
> > > > 
> > > > If you have been running gnucash in a VM, and now run gnucash on your
> > > > main
> > > > system, obviously it won't find the config data stored in your VM. If
> > > > you
> > > > would like gnucash to redo the config data conversion for you, you'll
> > > > have to 1. copy everything from .gnucash/ in your VM to .gnucash/ on
> > > > your main system 2. delete .local/share/gnucash and .config/gnucash
> > > > from your main system 3. start gnucash
> > > > 
> > > > As others have noted, if that still crashes, we're need more details to
> > > > determine the root cause. A trace file would be useful [1] or if you
> > > > know how to use the gdb debugger tool, a backtrace usually holds more
> > > > details still.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Geert
> > > > 
> > > > [1] http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile
> > > 
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[GNC] Bank check - debit and credit?

[ornd25]

How does one debit and credit for a bank check when the person/company doesn't 
want to accept a personal check? I usually forgo reality and just record that I 
sent the personal check directly to the individual, but that's not exactly what 
happens.



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Re: [GNC] Has the Android APP abandoned?

[Greg Feneis]

Perhaps there is a FOSS GUI platform similar to GTK that includes all of
the usual target OSes plus Android?




Kind regards,

Greg Feneis 




On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 1:08 AM Andrea Briganti  wrote:

> You hit the main point of my initial post.
>
> Who visit the website believes that it is the official android application
> and that it's maintained currently.
>
> If the community can't (won't) take the ownership of the app, I think that
> we have just to remove the banner in the homepage.
>
>
> > Returning to the bit that said the gnucash website is promoting the
> > android
> > app - considering the android app seems to be abandoned, should we remove
> > the
> > reference from our website or at least indicate it's currently
> > unmaintained ?
> >
>
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Re: [GNC] Has the Android APP abandoned?

[Andrea Briganti]

You hit the main point of my initial post.

Who visit the website believes that it is the official android application
and that it's maintained currently.

If the community can't (won't) take the ownership of the app, I think that
we have just to remove the banner in the homepage.


> Returning to the bit that said the gnucash website is promoting the
> android
> app - considering the android app seems to be abandoned, should we remove
> the
> reference from our website or at least indicate it's currently
> unmaintained ?
>


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Re: [GNC] Gnucash crashes after upgrade

[Geert Janssens]

Op donderdag 19 september 2019 04:42:36 CEST schreef Brian M. Sutin:
> I installed 3.7 from flatpak, but then I couldn't find the executable.

There is no "executable" with flatpak. You use the command
flatpak run org.gnucash.GnuCash
to start the gnucash flatpak

> So, I
> uninstalled the flatpak, downloaded the source and compiled it. I also
> deleted every single .XXX file in my home directory that had 'gnucash' in
> the title. Oddly, even with all initialization files deleted, gnucash 3.7
> still finds by Gnucash accounts file, and complains that it is locked.
> Second, it still crashes.
> 
> Question 1: How did Gnucash 3.7 find my previous accounts file and the lock?
> Where is that information stored?
> 
GnuCash keeps a history of opened files in the gsettings database. On linux 
gsettings uses dconf as backend, so you can use dconf-editor to check and 
modify that info.

> Question 2: Now that I have a recent version that core dumps, what do I need
> to post to spelunk the problem? Or do I post that elsewhere?

If you're about to post core dumps (or backtraces) I think this is better done 
in a bug report than on the mailing list. Mail messages tend to wrap lines 
which make the data hard to process.

Other useful information would be the contents of your gnucash.trace file and 
the output on the console.

Regards,

Geert

> > Thank you, everyone. I think I will wait for the next version to come
> > out next month and try it out then. If I am going to install it by
> > hand, I might as well install the latest.
> > 
> > > Op zaterdag 24 augustus 2019 20:17:50 CEST schreef gnuca...@skewray.com:
> > > > A year or two ago I was running Ubuntu 16.10. When I upgraded to the
> > > > next
> > > > Ubuntu version, Gnucash did some moving and reformatting of my config
> > > > files. When I ran Gnucash, it would hang up inside any register and
> > > > crash.  I 'solved' the problem by running 2.6.12 in Virtualbox on
> > > > Ubuntu 16.04, which is what I've been doing ever since.  Ubuntu has
> > > > upgraded a few times, and the issue persists.  The current version
> > > > that still doesn't work is Gnucash 3.4.
> > > > 
> > > > Is this a known issue? Is ther a previous thread in this list that
> > > > addresses this?  If not, how would I go about starting to debug the
> > > > issue?
> > > > 
> > > > Places where config files seem to be:
> > > > .config/gnucash
> > > > .gconf/apps/gnucash
> > > > .gnucash/books/Gnucash
> > > > .local/share/gnucash/books
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know which of these is from before the conversion and which
> > > > are new. The problem might also be in a library, I guess.
> > > 
> > > A few more bits that were omitted or glossed over in the other
> > > responses:
> > > 
> > > .gconf/apps/gnucash predates even gnucash 2.6. If you have no intention
> > > to
> > > rerun gnucash 2.4, you can safely remove this.
> > > Of the others
> > > .gnucash/ is the config directory used by gnucash2.6
> > > .config/gnucash and .local/share/gnucash are used by gnucash 3.x
> > > 
> > > If you have been running gnucash in a VM, and now run gnucash on your
> > > main
> > > system, obviously it won't find the config data stored in your VM. If
> > > you
> > > would like gnucash to redo the config data conversion for you, you'll
> > > have to 1. copy everything from .gnucash/ in your VM to .gnucash/ on
> > > your main system 2. delete .local/share/gnucash and .config/gnucash
> > > from your main system 3. start gnucash
> > > 
> > > As others have noted, if that still crashes, we're need more details to
> > > determine the root cause. A trace file would be useful [1] or if you
> > > know how to use the gdb debugger tool, a backtrace usually holds more
> > > details still.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Geert
> > > 
> > > [1] http://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Tracefile
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Re: [GNC] Has the Android APP abandoned?

[Geert Janssens]

I am interested in an android companion app for gnucash. One that's based on 
the same core code as gnucash itself. Unfortunately this isn't the direction 
the current android app went (it couldn't at the time).
And even more unfortunately I don't have spare time to work on this.

Returning to the bit that said the gnucash website is promoting the android 
app - considering the android app seems to be abandoned, should we remove the 
reference from our website or at least indicate it's currently unmaintained ? 

Regards,

Geert

Op donderdag 19 september 2019 03:39:10 CEST schreef Adrien Monteleone:
> Mind that any app that can export CSV can be used with GnuCash for the most
> part. (and some that can export QIF as well)
> 
> The only trick with other apps will be that you might have to do a little
> more work on the import side, or processing the CSV a tad before importing.
> 
> I could be mistaken, but as I understood it, the Android app relied on this
> import functionality anyway. (I never used it myself)
> 
> While it would be nice to have an official or dedicated mobile app, if there
> are other apps that can export their date to open formats, that should be
> sufficient. (though not maybe simple)
> 
> Regards,
> Adrien
> 
> > On Sep 18, 2019 w38d261, at 7:40 PM, Peter West  wrote:
> > 
> > Hello Kbyte,
> > 
> > I looked at the app, and it is promoted as a companion app for Gnucash on
> > the desktop. It is, as I suspected, written in Java, whereas  Gnucash is
> > written largely in C, as far as I can tell, with elements of Scheme and
> > Python for certain modules.
> > 
> > There may be Android developers who use Gnucash, and who would be willing
> > to look at this, but the Gnucash developers have their work cut out in
> > maintaining and developing the main product.
> > 
> > Peter
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