[GNC] Duplicate emails in GnuCash Digests
Hi, For quite a while now (at least several months), there have duplicated emails in the GnuCash digests. For instance, in the email below message 3 is a duplicate of 2, and 6 is a duplicate of 5. It doesn't seem to happen all the time but I often notice this for emails from D, Geert and John Ralls, although John Ralls' message 4 here is not duplicated. I'd really appreciate it if someone could fix this. Regards, Chris Good -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org Sent: Saturday, 1 February 2020 4:00 AM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 202, Issue 74 Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to gnucash-user@gnucash.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org You can reach the person managing the list at gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Access the Company Name in python (gc...@nailedtotheperch.com) 2. Re: Edit number of recently opened books (D) 3. Re: Edit number of recently opened books (D) 4. Re: Edit number of recently opened books (John Ralls) 5. Re: Edit number of recently opened books (D) 6. Re: Edit number of recently opened books (D) -- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 17:41:59 -0400 From: gc...@nailedtotheperch.com To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: [GNC] Access the Company Name in python Message-ID: <76b8557c7e16096b559c3066b5dd7...@nailedtotheperch.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed What is the most straight forward way to access (read) the company name in python. I can see it the XML, but that seems a little fragile. I'm talking about the company name entered in File->Properties->Book Option->Business not a Vendor or Customer Name. Could somebody give me a quick pointer to the module and method. Thanks -- Message: 2 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 08:47:07 +0530 From: D To: Greg W Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Edit number of recently opened books Message-ID: <7d2db7fd-084d-487a-91fc-e431cdec4...@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Have you tried this: https://www.howtogeek.com/231700/how-to-change-the-number-of-recent-items-in -os-x/ On Jan 31, 2020, 01:43, at 01:43, Greg W wrote: >I've tried searching around and haven't found anywhere that seems to >suggest how to edit then number of recently opened books that show up >in the File menu on OSX: > >[image: Menubar.png] >Can I change that 4 to a 6 or more somehow? > >Thanks, >Greg > > >--- >- > >___ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2020 08:47:07 +0530 From: D To: Greg W Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Edit number of recently opened books Message-ID: <7d2db7fd-084d-487a-91fc-e431cdec4...@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Have you tried this: https://www.howtogeek.com/231700/how-to-change-the-number-of-recent-items-in -os-x/ On Jan 31, 2020, 01:43, at 01:43, Greg W wrote: >I've tried searching around and haven't found anywhere that seems to >suggest how to edit then number of recently opened books that show up >in the File menu on OSX: > >[image: Menubar.png] >Can I change that 4 to a 6 or more somehow? > >Thanks, >Greg > > >--- >- > >___ >gnucash-user mailing list >gnucash-user@gnucash.org >To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: >https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user >If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see >https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. >- >Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. >You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. -- Message: 4 Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2020 19:23:02 -0800 From: John Ralls To: D Cc: Greg W , gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Edit number of recently opened books Message-ID: <771f2080-258e-4f5e-ae45-bb22c73b8...@ceridwen.us> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii GnuCash pays no
Re: [GNC] Accounting FOr Beneficiary Income
Hey Stan, Thank you for your condolences Hopefully you did that in your name _as_beneficiary_ of your mother. I worked with the broker who was handing the account for my mom (it's a major brokerage) to make sure everything was done correctly. My mom had named me beneficiary on every account she had, so nothing ended up in probate. I'm guessing that your mother died in 2019? If by any chance she died in 2020, the above rules are still in effect but you no longer use the life-expectancy tables to compute a Required Minimum Distribution. Instead, you have 10 years to drain the IRA, on whatever schedule you choose. She passed on the 5th of January this year. She had already declared a specific amount she was going to withdraw for this year and I have to keep that going. After the year is up I am going to adjust the disbursements to fit my financial needs for my current season of life. Right now, I plan to take most of it and put it into a Roth as it is disbursed. This is before I have had any real planning meeting with the advisor, mind you, so that isn't set in stone investments: Assets:Investments:Mother's IRA. Your transaction will debit that account by the value of the IRA. You're not required to follow Generally Accepted Accounting principles, so the credit account in that transaction is up to you. Here are some options: * Your main equity account. * Equity:Extraordinary Income (one account for this and other large one-time entries) * Equity:Inheritance(s) * Income:Inheritance(s) * Income:Miscellaneous Right now, the transactions go as follows: IRA Account -> Brokerage Checking Account (some requirement - I forget why right now) -> Personal Checking Account (later some of this will go into a Roth as well). IRA Account -> Federal Taxes (still working on the state tax estimate) I guess my hangup was that I felt I needed to show it as income since taxes were being taken out as part of the disbursement. But - thinking it through with your help - it's not like this money is coming from a 3rd party like an employer or a client. It's already my money, so it's an asset right? Here's my answer to a related question that you didn't ask: Your mother's IRA, like your other investments, will grow or shrink over time. Those changes don't affect your income tax. But over time, the balance in GnuCash Assets:Investments:Mother's IRA will get further and further out of step with the balance in the actual account at the brokerage. Since there's no need to keep track of profit and loss in an IRA, I resolve this by checking the balance at Vanguard every three months, and then I debit Assets:Investments:My IRA and credit Equity:Unrealized Gains/Losses. (If the IRA is down, the credit and debit are reversed. If you enter negative numbers, GnuCash does that for you automatically.) Thanks for this. You're right - it was a question I knew needed an answer but hadn't gotten that far yet Maybe it bothers you that your income on your tax return doesn't match your income in GnuCash? Something like that. I was picturing having to report where all my money came from for the year. So, because I was getting money from something and paying taxes on it I thought that meant the transaction should be classified as income. But, it sounds like it's just an account transfer that costs me taxes to do so to speak Unless your mother's estate is large enough that you need to be concerned with Federal or State estate tax, these refunds won't flow into taxes. Nah, it was pretty simple. And the amounts of the refunds on these accounts are pretty small. Thank you for your very well thought out response Dave ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] [MAINT] Server Downtime to relocate hardware, Feb 1, 2020
Hi, Just a reminder that this is scheduled for tomorrow. I am expecting the work to start around 4pm US/ET (2100 UTC). I will send one more email before I start to turn down servers, and will be on IRC as much as I can during the work. Thanks, -derek "Derek Atkins" writes: > Hi, > > TL;DR: I plan to move the hardware that runs code.gnucash.org on the > afternoon/evening of February 1, 2020, which will involve some significant > downtime as the machine is physically moved and then racked. Expect > anywhere from 4-12 hours of downtime for email, wiki, archives, gncbot, > and git master. Exact time TBD; real-time updates will go to #gnucash on > IRC. > > > Long version: On the afternoon of February 1, 2020 I plan to relocate my > hardware to its more permanent location. This will involve significant > downtime because I have toL > 1) shut down the systems > 2) reconfigure the local network at the old location > 3) reroute the IPv4 tunnel to the new location (which requires > coordination with another entity) > 4) physically move the machines from the old location to new location > 5) install the new machines in the racks at the new location > 6) reconfigure the local network for the tunnel > 7) turn on an test > > I expect this whole process will take at least 4 hours, but probably much > longer depending on many variables. However, once it is complete the > system will be (back) on a 1Gb fiber with a good-sized UPS for > short-to-medium length power outages (which we've had none in the past 2 > years). > > I will send an email about 30 minutes before I begin, and again after the > project is complete. I'll remain on IRC in the interim for more real-time > updates. > > During this outage, most gnucash services will be unavailable. This > includes: email lists and archives, wiki, git master, IRC gncbot, build > services, etc. The web site, www.gnucash.org, will remain available and I > will post a news article about the maintenance. > > DEVS: Please let me know ASAP if there are specific time frames that > would adversely affect you. I do have some flexibility in doing this > work. > > Please let me know if you have any questions, comments, or concerns prior > to this work. > > Thanks, > > -derek -- Derek Atkins 617-623-3745 de...@ihtfp.com www.ihtfp.com Computer and Internet Security Consultant ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Segmentation fault when I try to enter anything
On Sat, Feb 01, 2020 at 01:06:09AM +0100, Gerrit Holl wrote: > Hi, > > I recently upgraded to gnucash 3.7, or rather reinstalled it on a new > Ubuntu 19.10 system. I've started to get reproducible segmentation > faults: that sounds like the same problem my wife encountered recently on 3.8 on Ubuntu 18.04. I posted to th e list and John Ralls replied thusly: It's probably https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/gtk/issues/61. If you know how you can take a stack trace to be sure. The work-around is to set GTK_IM_MODULE=ibus in the environment. so we did that and the problem is solved. Good luck! Fred -- Fred Smith -- fre...@fcshome.stoneham.ma.us - The Lord is like a strong tower. Those who do what is right can run to him for safety. --- Proverbs 18:10 (niv) - ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Segmentation fault when I try to enter anything
Hi,
I recently upgraded to gnucash 3.7, or rather reinstalled it on a new
Ubuntu 19.10 system. I've started to get reproducible segmentation
faults:
- start gnucash (all is well)
- open my existing expenses file
- go to any account tab
- try to write anything in any column (description, amount, etc.)
- as soon as I press a key to enter anything, I get a segmentation fault
OR
- start gnucash
- create new file
- create an account
- go to account
- write anything in it
which both result in Segmentation Fault (core dumped)
Following the advise at
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2018-February/075121.html,
I ran gnucash --log gnc.backend.dbi=debug which is supposed to "write
the SQL queries to your gnucash.trace". Unfortunately there is
nothing there. The contents of gnucash.trace:
* 00:50:44 INFO [gnc_module_init_backend_dbi] GNC_DBD_DIR not set:
using libdbi built-in default
Not sure if that INFO message is relevant.
Otherwise there is the file money_tracking.gnucash.20200201005051.log
which contains nothing much either:
mod trans_guid split_guid time_now date_entered date_posted acc_guid
acc_name num description notes memo action reconciled amount value
date_reconciled - = START = END
I.e. it's empty as far as I can see.
In case it helps, I have run `strace -ff`, the last lines of the 14
strace files are below
What else can I do to diagnose the cause of this problem? Some
incompatible library that got wrongly installed? I deleted gnucash
and reinstalled it, but this does not resolve the problem. I've also
moved /home/gerrit/.local/share out of the way but the symptoms remain
identical. I'm a bit surprised at the latter; when I move the
.local/share out of the way digikam still starts with my default
expenses file, how does it know? What other information should I look
up to dig into this?
==> str.15514 <==
recvmsg(4, {msg_name=NULL, msg_namelen=0,
msg_iov=[{iov_base="\1\1\25!\0\0\0\0\30|+\2q\0074\5\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0",
iov_len=4096}], msg_iovlen=1, msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 32
recvmsg(4, {msg_namelen=0}, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recvmsg(4, {msg_namelen=0}, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
poll([{fd=4, events=POLLIN}, {fd=5, events=POLLIN}, {fd=6,
events=POLLIN}], 3, 6337) = 1 ([{fd=4, revents=POLLIN}])
recvmsg(4, {msg_name=NULL, msg_namelen=0,
msg_iov=[{iov_base="#\203\25!\26\0\0\0\2\0\3\0\374\323G\1&\0\0\0k\1\0\0T\4@\0\0\0\0\0"...,
iov_len=4096}], msg_iovlen=1, msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 120
recvmsg(4, {msg_name=NULL, msg_namelen=0,
msg_iov=[{iov_base="#\203\25!\0\0\0\0\f\0\17\0\376\323G\1U\1\0\0\2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0",
iov_len=4096}], msg_iovlen=1, msg_controllen=0, msg_flags=0}, 0) = 32
recvmsg(4, {msg_namelen=0}, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
recvmsg(4, {msg_namelen=0}, 0) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource
temporarily unavailable)
--- SIGSEGV {si_signo=SIGSEGV, si_code=SEGV_MAPERR, si_addr=0xf8} ---
+++ killed by SIGSEGV (core dumped) +++
==> str.15515 <==
mprotect(0x7f80e400, 135168, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE) = 0
prctl(PR_SET_NAME, "gmain") = 0
poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=9, revents=POLLIN}])
read(9, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16) = 8
poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1)= 1 ([{fd=9, revents=POLLIN}])
read(9, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16) = 8
wait4(15528, [{WIFSIGNALED(s) && WTERMSIG(s) == SIGKILL}], WNOHANG,
NULL) = 15528
write(5, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 8) = 8
poll([{fd=9, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1 ) = ?
+++ killed by SIGSEGV (core dumped) +++
==> str.15516 <==
futex(0x558f534e30b0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
futex(0x558f534e30b0, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL) = 0
futex(0x558f534e30b0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
futex(0x558f53426358, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}], 1, 0) = 0 (Timeout)
write(11, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 8)= 8
poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN}], 2, -1) = 1
([{fd=11, revents=POLLIN}])
read(11, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16)= 8
poll([{fd=8, events=POLLIN}, {fd=11, events=POLLIN}], 2, -1
) = ?
+++ killed by SIGSEGV (core dumped) +++
==> str.15519 <==
read(10, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16)= 8
futex(0x558f534beed8, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 2147483647) = 0
poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1) = 1 ([{fd=10, revents=POLLIN}])
futex(0x558f534e30b0, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL) = -1 EAGAIN
(Resource temporarily unavailable)
read(10, "\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 16)= 8
futex(0x558f534e30b0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 1
futex(0x558f53426358, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 2, NULL) = 0
futex(0x558f53426358, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
poll([{fd=10, events=POLLIN}], 1, -1 ) = ?
+++ killed by SIGSEGV (core dumped) +++
==> str.15520 <==
futex(0x7f80f2ae1de8, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 0, NULL) = 0
futex(0x7f80f2ae19c0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
futex(0x7f80f2ae1de0, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 10, NULL) = 0
futex(0x7f80f2ae1de0, FUTEX_WAKE_PRIVATE, 1) = 0
Re: [GNC] Nesting too deep for budget?
As you have discovered, the Budget module is showing its age and needs some TLC. I haven’t checked the documentation in some time, but perhaps it needs some refreshing as well. Due to limited developer time, I don’t expect the module itself to be updated any time soon, but contributions are always welcome on the documentation front, which, while not solving the usability and discoverability issue, would at least provide some guidance for new users on how to navigate the budget window. It is unfortunate even documentation work has such a high entry bar, but it is doable. At the very least, please look over Bugzilla and file bugs or enhancement requests for those parts you think can be improved. (some already exist and may well address the issues you’ve encountered) Regards, Adrien > On Jan 31, 2020 w5d31, at 3:48 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2020 31 Jan 15:17 -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> Nate, >> >> >> First, the budget by default, I don’t think, shows any ‘cells’ like >> you would think of them in a spreadsheet. You can turn on faint grey >> lines here by going to Preferences > General > General and then >> checking off the two options to “Enable horizontal/vertical grid lines >> on table displays”. This may also show the grid lines in other places >> you may not want, so toggle as needed. > > Thanks Adrien. > >> Note also, you have to double-click where the cells are supposed to be >> to get the entry field. There is a way to tab/enter around the table, >> but it is quite cumbersome. > > Ohh > > Well. That was totally NOT described in the manual. At least not in > the Gudgets chapter. Everywhere else in GC there is a defined grid and > an obvious entry box and in this form, NOTHING? Sorry, I am venting a > bit as this is a severe UI deviation and had me frustrated enough that I > went out and got the mail! > >> It does not play nice like a spreadsheet app. >> >> Second, the column order in the Budget module should be >> >> Accounts 1st period 2nd period ... Total >> >> The dates of those periods are determined by how you set up the >> budget, which can be changed with the ‘Options’ toolbar button. >> >> So the first column has account names. >> >> The second and subsequent columns are for each period. >> >> If you enter amounts in the child accounts, the parent cells will show >> the sum of those entries in a grey font. >> >> You *could* enter amounts for the parents, but in this case you don’t >> want to. >> >> Also, be aware that parent accounts (maybe only those set as >> placeholders, I don’t recall) Will show “0.00” in light grey font for >> any parts of the tree that don’t have entries yet. But the child >> accounts will have nothing there in the cell. The cell will be >> completely blank. And if you don’t have the grid lines turned on, that >> row will look like a blank, white (empty) row. But just double-click >> where you think the cell ought to be and you’ll get the entry field. > > I suppose there is a sound reason why only a parent account shows a > total of 0.00 and leaf accounts are completely blank, but I fail to see > it. I'm hardly a newbie when it comes to GUIs and such. As I am doing > a yearly budget I have three columns and I had double-clicked/pressed > Enter on the "Account Name" and "Total" columns as there are characters > in those columns. It never occurred to me to try double-clicking the > completely blank "01/01/2020" column for the leaf accounts row! > > Regardless, I think this really needs to be a tip in the manual's > Budgets chapter and given the rest of the UI, this was NOT intuitive at > all. > >> The Filter settings are not remembered. You have to reset them each >> time you open the Budget. I think there is a bug filed on this >> already. > > In fact, it seems as though the subsequent times that it is opened that > the filter is ineffective. I didn't play with it extensively, however. > > Thanks for you patient answers, Adrien. GC is helping me so much that > this UI inconsistency really was unexpected and threw me for a loop > especially with parent accounts showing values and the leaf accounts > being blank. > > I am on my way, now. > > - Nate ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Nesting too deep for budget?
* On 2020 31 Jan 15:17 -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > Nate, > > > First, the budget by default, I don’t think, shows any ‘cells’ like > you would think of them in a spreadsheet. You can turn on faint grey > lines here by going to Preferences > General > General and then > checking off the two options to “Enable horizontal/vertical grid lines > on table displays”. This may also show the grid lines in other places > you may not want, so toggle as needed. Thanks Adrien. > Note also, you have to double-click where the cells are supposed to be > to get the entry field. There is a way to tab/enter around the table, > but it is quite cumbersome. Ohh Well. That was totally NOT described in the manual. At least not in the Gudgets chapter. Everywhere else in GC there is a defined grid and an obvious entry box and in this form, NOTHING? Sorry, I am venting a bit as this is a severe UI deviation and had me frustrated enough that I went out and got the mail! > It does not play nice like a spreadsheet app. > > Second, the column order in the Budget module should be > > Accounts 1st period 2nd period ... Total > > The dates of those periods are determined by how you set up the > budget, which can be changed with the ‘Options’ toolbar button. > > So the first column has account names. > > The second and subsequent columns are for each period. > > If you enter amounts in the child accounts, the parent cells will show > the sum of those entries in a grey font. > > You *could* enter amounts for the parents, but in this case you don’t > want to. > > Also, be aware that parent accounts (maybe only those set as > placeholders, I don’t recall) Will show “0.00” in light grey font for > any parts of the tree that don’t have entries yet. But the child > accounts will have nothing there in the cell. The cell will be > completely blank. And if you don’t have the grid lines turned on, that > row will look like a blank, white (empty) row. But just double-click > where you think the cell ought to be and you’ll get the entry field. I suppose there is a sound reason why only a parent account shows a total of 0.00 and leaf accounts are completely blank, but I fail to see it. I'm hardly a newbie when it comes to GUIs and such. As I am doing a yearly budget I have three columns and I had double-clicked/pressed Enter on the "Account Name" and "Total" columns as there are characters in those columns. It never occurred to me to try double-clicking the completely blank "01/01/2020" column for the leaf accounts row! Regardless, I think this really needs to be a tip in the manual's Budgets chapter and given the rest of the UI, this was NOT intuitive at all. > The Filter settings are not remembered. You have to reset them each > time you open the Budget. I think there is a bug filed on this > already. In fact, it seems as though the subsequent times that it is opened that the filter is ineffective. I didn't play with it extensively, however. Thanks for you patient answers, Adrien. GC is helping me so much that this UI inconsistency really was unexpected and threw me for a loop especially with parent accounts showing values and the leaf accounts being blank. I am on my way, now. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Edit number of recently opened books
It added the key-value just fine. I checked the plist after. But it isn’t being honored by GnuCash. I tried both “maxfiles” and “max-files” key names on a whim. (most other keys are hyphenated between words) Maybe John can chime in if he has a moment. Is there an RFE filed on this? I would think if the preference is already allegedly usable, (and 10 file locations are being stored regardless) it may as well be exposed to the user. Regards, Adrien > On Jan 31, 2020 w5d31, at 2:59 PM, Geert Janssens > wrote: > > Hmm, I don't have access to an Apple computer, so the command I proposed was > based on one I found in the FAQ. > > I know which gsettings key it refers to (org.gnucash.history/maxfiles), but I > may have the exact command invocation to set it wrong. > > Perhaps it needs quotes around the number ? > > And perhaps the MacOS build of gnucash has another way of handling the > history file list? I didn't see anything to that effect in the code though. > > Geert > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Nesting too deep for budget?
Nate, First, the budget by default, I don’t think, shows any ‘cells’ like you would think of them in a spreadsheet. You can turn on faint grey lines here by going to Preferences > General > General and then checking off the two options to “Enable horizontal/vertical grid lines on table displays”. This may also show the grid lines in other places you may not want, so toggle as needed. Note also, you have to double-click where the cells are supposed to be to get the entry field. There is a way to tab/enter around the table, but it is quite cumbersome. It does not play nice like a spreadsheet app. Second, the column order in the Budget module should be Accounts 1st period 2nd period ... Total The dates of those periods are determined by how you set up the budget, which can be changed with the ‘Options’ toolbar button. So the first column has account names. The second and subsequent columns are for each period. If you enter amounts in the child accounts, the parent cells will show the sum of those entries in a grey font. You *could* enter amounts for the parents, but in this case you don’t want to. Also, be aware that parent accounts (maybe only those set as placeholders, I don’t recall) Will show “0.00” in light grey font for any parts of the tree that don’t have entries yet. But the child accounts will have nothing there in the cell. The cell will be completely blank. And if you don’t have the grid lines turned on, that row will look like a blank, white (empty) row. But just double-click where you think the cell ought to be and you’ll get the entry field. The Filter settings are not remembered. You have to reset them each time you open the Budget. I think there is a bug filed on this already. Regards, Adrien > On Jan 31, 2020 w5d31, at 2:56 PM, Nate Bargmann wrote: > > * On 2020 09 Jan 01:53 -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote: >> This might be an ‘unused’ issue. >> >> I presume since you’re getting started, none of those 26 accounts have any >> existing transactions, correct? >> >> Go to: >> >> View > Filter By > Other >> >> and check off: >> >> Show Unused Accounts >> (optionally) Show Zero Total Accounts >> (optionally) Show Hidden Accounts >> >> You should now be able to budget for those accounts. > > Circling back to this, I've tried this dialog and I still don't have a > cell in the Budget tab that I can enter a value except for the parent of > the subaccounts which is not useful for me. The list of subaccounts > does change when I check or uncheck Show unsued accounts or Show zero > total accounts, but in no case does a cell appear in the second column > from the right. > > I deleted the prior budget attempts and started fresh. I am using 3.8 > on Debian. > > I am only interested in an expense budget so I only have the Expense > Account Type checked in the Filter Budget dialog. In the Other tab, of > the three only Show hidden accounts is not checked. > > My expense tree looks like this: > > Expenses > Dual Parish > sub accounts... > Home > sub accounts... > > Expenses, Dual Parish, and Home are marked as Placeholder accounts. No > matter whether any or all of these are Placeholders or not, there is > only a cell to enter a budget amount in Dual Parish and Home. No > accounts below either provide a cell for entering a budgeted amount. > > Curiously, beyond this, when I close and reopen the budget I get all of > the top level accounts. > > - Nate ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Edit number of recently opened books
Hmm, I don't have access to an Apple computer, so the command I proposed was based on one I found in the FAQ. I know which gsettings key it refers to (org.gnucash.history/maxfiles), but I may have the exact command invocation to set it wrong. Perhaps it needs quotes around the number ? And perhaps the MacOS build of gnucash has another way of handling the history file list? I didn't see anything to that effect in the code though. Geert Op vrijdag 31 januari 2020 21:41:46 CET schreef Adrien Monteleone: > I just tried this on Catalina, no dice. The pref was added in the plist > file, but it doesn’t seem to have any affect. I also tried logging out and > back in after the change. > > Interestingly, there are key-value pairs for more than 4 files. (I have 8 > filled and 2 still blank) But only 4 show in the File menu. > > Note, that ‘maxfiles' key didn’t exist prior to me issuing the command. > > Regards, > Adrien > > > On Jan 31, 2020 w5d31, at 2:15 PM, Greg W wrote: > > > > On OSX 10.14.6 the 'defaults write --app Gnucash' command was invalid due > > to syntax issues. > > > > I tried 'defaults write org.gnucash.Gnucash > > "/org/gnucash/history/maxfiles" > > 10' and it didn't have any effect. > > > > Thanks, > > Greg > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 1:05 PM Geert Janssens > > > > > > wrote: > >> Op donderdag 30 januari 2020 21:11:00 CET schreef Greg W: > >>> I've tried searching around and haven't found anywhere that seems to > >>> > >>> suggest how to edit then number of recently opened books that show up in > >>> > >>> the File menu on OSX: > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> [image: Menubar.png] > >>> > >>> Can I change that 4 to a 6 or more somehow? > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks, > >>> > >>> Greg > >> > >> There is a hidden preference that can increase this number to up to 10 > >> recently opened books. You can't set this via the GnuCash user interface, > >> but probably via the defaults command line tool. For example to increase > >> the list to 6 you could try: > >> > >> > >> > >> defaults write --app Gnucash "/org/gnucash/history/maxfiles" 6 > >> > >> > >> > >> Regards, > >> > >> > >> > >> Geert > > > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Nesting too deep for budget?
* On 2020 09 Jan 01:53 -0600, Adrien Monteleone wrote: > This might be an ‘unused’ issue. > > I presume since you’re getting started, none of those 26 accounts have any > existing transactions, correct? > > Go to: > > View > Filter By > Other > > and check off: > > Show Unused Accounts > (optionally) Show Zero Total Accounts > (optionally) Show Hidden Accounts > > You should now be able to budget for those accounts. Circling back to this, I've tried this dialog and I still don't have a cell in the Budget tab that I can enter a value except for the parent of the subaccounts which is not useful for me. The list of subaccounts does change when I check or uncheck Show unsued accounts or Show zero total accounts, but in no case does a cell appear in the second column from the right. I deleted the prior budget attempts and started fresh. I am using 3.8 on Debian. I am only interested in an expense budget so I only have the Expense Account Type checked in the Filter Budget dialog. In the Other tab, of the three only Show hidden accounts is not checked. My expense tree looks like this: Expenses Dual Parish sub accounts... Home sub accounts... Expenses, Dual Parish, and Home are marked as Placeholder accounts. No matter whether any or all of these are Placeholders or not, there is only a cell to enter a budget amount in Dual Parish and Home. No accounts below either provide a cell for entering a budgeted amount. Curiously, beyond this, when I close and reopen the budget I get all of the top level accounts. - Nate -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Web: https://www.n0nb.us Projects: https://github.com/N0NB GPG fingerprint: 82D6 4F6B 0E67 CD41 F689 BBA6 FB2C 5130 D55A 8819 signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Accounting FOr Beneficiary Income
Hello, Dave! My sympathies for your loss. You say "IRA", so I assume you're talking about US law here. > 1. She had a traditional IRA account that she was receiving > disbursements from. I worked with the broker and just rolled all of > the accounts into my name. Hopefully you did that in your name _as_beneficiary_ of your mother. "If the inherited traditional IRA is from anyone other than a deceased spouse, the beneficiary cannot treat it as his or her own. This means that the beneficiary cannot make any contributions to the IRA or roll over any amounts into or out of the inherited IRA. However, the beneficiary can make a trustee-to-trustee transfer as long as the IRA into which amounts are being moved is set up and maintained in the name of the deceased IRA owner for the benefit of the beneficiary." Source: https://www.irs.gov/retirement-plans/plan-participant-employee/retirement-topics-beneficiary So the account title needs to be something on the order of "Emily Jones IRA (deceased February 2, 2016) for the benefit of Riley Jones beneficiary." Source of example: Jane Bryant Quinn, _How_to_Make_Your_Money_Last_ (2016), pp 185-187. Quinn warns "you have to get the paperwork right! One small slip and the shelter will collapse, forcing you to take the money (and pay any taxes) all at once." If you got competent advice and did it right, great. If you didn't, I don't know whether this can be fixed but I would consult a tax adviser, pronto. I'm guessing that your mother died in 2019? If by any chance she died in 2020, the above rules are still in effect but you no longer use the life-expectancy tables to compute a Required Minimum Distribution. Instead, you have 10 years to drain the IRA, on whatever schedule you choose. Source: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/i/inherited_ira.asp Now on to your accounting questions ... > So, now I have this money that was given to me and I didn't pay > into. Create a new asset account, in the same branch as your other long-term investments: Assets:Investments:Mother's IRA. Your transaction will debit that account by the value of the IRA. You're not required to follow Generally Accepted Accounting principles, so the credit account in that transaction is up to you. Here are some options: * Your main equity account. * Equity:Extraordinary Income (one account for this and other large one-time entries) * Equity:Inheritance(s) * Income:Inheritance(s) * Income:Miscellaneous I don't see any need to consult a CPA about this. As long as the entries are clear, you're not legally required to follow any particular form. I personally like to restrict my Income and Expense accounts to ordinary income, items that occur in the course of my customary life activities, items that would appear in a budget. I have to buy groceries every week, so Groceries is an ordinary Income account on my books. But it would be absurd to budget for an inheritance, so I prefer to record that in an equity account rather than an Income account. > I have to continue receiving disbursements from this > account every year. Because this is a traditional IRA, I have > to pay taxes on this income. Because of this, should I set the > IRA account as some sort of equity that I can get income from > and pay taxes on? No. The IRA is an asset, just like your own IRA or 401(k) or your bank account. When you take money from it, you debit Assets:Cash or Assets:Bank Accounts, and credit Assets:Mother's IRA. You can see that makes sense: you are converting one type of asset into another type of asset. You can't turn equity into an asset, at least not in this context. Here's my answer to a related question that you didn't ask: Your mother's IRA, like your other investments, will grow or shrink over time. Those changes don't affect your income tax. But over time, the balance in GnuCash Assets:Investments:Mother's IRA will get further and further out of step with the balance in the actual account at the brokerage. Since there's no need to keep track of profit and loss in an IRA, I resolve this by checking the balance at Vanguard every three months, and then I debit Assets:Investments:My IRA and credit Equity:Unrealized Gains/Losses. (If the IRA is down, the credit and debit are reversed. If you enter negative numbers, GnuCash does that for you automatically.) How to record taxes? Basically the same way you record other taxable events, like getting a paycheck. This is already pretty long, so I'm going to skip that. > I tried setting it up as an investment asset, > but I couldn't then make an income transaction. I don't understand what you mean here by "couldn't" -- couldn't figure out what you wanted to do? couldn't make GnuCash do it? other? > I think I need to reflect this as income due to the taxes being taken > out. Otherwise it would just be a transfer between asset accounts. But it's _not_ income, any more than withdrawing money from your bank account is income. It _is_ what you say a moment later, a t
Re: [GNC] Edit number of recently opened books
I just tried this on Catalina, no dice. The pref was added in the plist file, but it doesn’t seem to have any affect. I also tried logging out and back in after the change. Interestingly, there are key-value pairs for more than 4 files. (I have 8 filled and 2 still blank) But only 4 show in the File menu. Note, that ‘maxfiles' key didn’t exist prior to me issuing the command. Regards, Adrien > On Jan 31, 2020 w5d31, at 2:15 PM, Greg W wrote: > > On OSX 10.14.6 the 'defaults write --app Gnucash' command was invalid due > to syntax issues. > > I tried 'defaults write org.gnucash.Gnucash "/org/gnucash/history/maxfiles" > 10' and it didn't have any effect. > > Thanks, > Greg > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 1:05 PM Geert Janssens > wrote: > >> Op donderdag 30 januari 2020 21:11:00 CET schreef Greg W: >> >>> I've tried searching around and haven't found anywhere that seems to >> >>> suggest how to edit then number of recently opened books that show up in >> >>> the File menu on OSX: >> >>> >> >>> [image: Menubar.png] >> >>> Can I change that 4 to a 6 or more somehow? >> >>> >> >>> Thanks, >> >>> Greg >> >> >> >> There is a hidden preference that can increase this number to up to 10 >> recently opened books. You can't set this via the GnuCash user interface, >> but probably via the defaults command line tool. For example to increase >> the list to 6 you could try: >> >> >> >> defaults write --app Gnucash "/org/gnucash/history/maxfiles" 6 >> >> >> >> Regards, >> >> >> >> Geert >> > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Edit number of recently opened books
On OSX 10.14.6 the 'defaults write --app Gnucash' command was invalid due to syntax issues. I tried 'defaults write org.gnucash.Gnucash "/org/gnucash/history/maxfiles" 10' and it didn't have any effect. Thanks, Greg On Fri, Jan 31, 2020 at 1:05 PM Geert Janssens wrote: > Op donderdag 30 januari 2020 21:11:00 CET schreef Greg W: > > > I've tried searching around and haven't found anywhere that seems to > > > suggest how to edit then number of recently opened books that show up in > > > the File menu on OSX: > > > > > > [image: Menubar.png] > > > Can I change that 4 to a 6 or more somehow? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Greg > > > > There is a hidden preference that can increase this number to up to 10 > recently opened books. You can't set this via the GnuCash user interface, > but probably via the defaults command line tool. For example to increase > the list to 6 you could try: > > > > defaults write --app Gnucash "/org/gnucash/history/maxfiles" 6 > > > > Regards, > > > > Geert > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Accounting FOr Beneficiary Income
On 1/31/20 10:48 AM, Dave Gilmore wrote: > Hello all, > > My mom recently passed away and I am the sole beneficiary on all of > her assets. I am wondering how to setup and record few scenarios. > > 1. She had a traditional IRA account that she was receiving > disbursements from. I worked with the broker and just rolled all of > the accounts into my name. So, now I have this money that was given to > me and I didn't pay into. I have to continue receiving disbursements > from this account every year. Because this is a traditional IRA, I > have to pay taxes on this income. Because of this, should I set the > IRA account as some sort of equity that I can get income from and pay > taxes on? I tried setting it up as an investment asset, but I couldn't > then make an income transaction. I think I need to reflect this as > income due to the taxes being taken out. Otherwise it would just be a > transfer between asset accounts. How should I set this up? > > 2. As I am closing out some of her accounts (utilities, insurance, > cable, etc) she is being issued a refund. Which is being paid to me. > Should I just list this as "other income". Technically it is a refund, > but I did not make the original expense to be refunded for > > Thanks! > > Dave Gilmore Only your local CPA can provide the correct answer for you. Once you know how s/he wants it recorded, we can then help you setup the accounts and enter the transactions. -- Stephen M Butler, PMP, PSM stephen.m.butle...@gmail.com kg...@arrl.net 253-350-0166 --- GnuPG Fingerprint: 8A25 9726 D439 758D D846 E5D4 282A 5477 0385 81D8 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Edit number of recently opened books
Op donderdag 30 januari 2020 21:11:00 CET schreef Greg W: > I've tried searching around and haven't found anywhere that seems to > suggest how to edit then number of recently opened books that show up in > the File menu on OSX: > > [image: Menubar.png] > Can I change that 4 to a 6 or more somehow? > > Thanks, > Greg There is a hidden preference that can increase this number to up to 10 recently opened books. You can't set this via the GnuCash user interface, but probably via the defaults command line tool. For example to increase the list to 6 you could try: defaults write --app Gnucash "/org/gnucash/history/maxfiles" 6 Regards, Geert ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Accounting FOr Beneficiary Income
Hello all, My mom recently passed away and I am the sole beneficiary on all of her assets. I am wondering how to setup and record few scenarios. 1. She had a traditional IRA account that she was receiving disbursements from. I worked with the broker and just rolled all of the accounts into my name. So, now I have this money that was given to me and I didn't pay into. I have to continue receiving disbursements from this account every year. Because this is a traditional IRA, I have to pay taxes on this income. Because of this, should I set the IRA account as some sort of equity that I can get income from and pay taxes on? I tried setting it up as an investment asset, but I couldn't then make an income transaction. I think I need to reflect this as income due to the taxes being taken out. Otherwise it would just be a transfer between asset accounts. How should I set this up? 2. As I am closing out some of her accounts (utilities, insurance, cable, etc) she is being issued a refund. Which is being paid to me. Should I just list this as "other income". Technically it is a refund, but I did not make the original expense to be refunded for Thanks! Dave Gilmore ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
