Re: [GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

2020-06-22 Thread John Ralls



> On Jun 22, 2020, at 6:08 PM, uhopfer@gmail  wrote:
> 
> I had to reinstall strawberry perl and finance::quote (1.49) and now can 
> download again all my quotes except for 2 symbols using alpha vantage, 
> vanguard, or yahoo_json.
> 
> I discovered that gnc-path-check comes back  with a programming error message 
> (below):
> 
> perl gnc-path-check -v 2>temp.txt
> 
> Can't use global $_ in "my" at gnc-path-check line 60, near "my $_ "
> Execution of gnc-path-check aborted due to compilation errors.
> 
> That error needs  to be fixed, but I do not know any perl.
> 
> I wondered whether the error could be related to my  new problem of 
> retrieving 2 of 3 TIAA-CREF symbols with yahoo_json that I used to be able to 
> retrieve automatically, but now can only retrieve manually. In other words, 
> yahoo still has information on the symbols, but f::q does not retrieve it. 
> The automatic retrieval works for 1, but not the other 2 sumbols. gnc-fq-dump 
> gives the same anwer.
> 

Dunno where you got gnc-path-check, but it wasn't from us. We have a 
gnc-fq-check, gnc-fq-dump, gnc-fq-helper, and gnc-fq-update. No gnc-path-check.

What same answer does gnc-fq-dump give, that the symbol isn't found? What are 
the two symbols? Have you tried price source tiaacref?

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] error message with finance::quote gnc-path-check + problems with retrieving quotes for 2 symbols.

2020-06-22 Thread uhopfer@gmail
I had to reinstall strawberry perl and finance::quote (1.49) and now can 
download again all my quotes except for 2 symbols using alpha vantage, 
vanguard, or yahoo_json.


I discovered that gnc-path-check comes back  with a programming error 
message (below):


perl gnc-path-check -v 2>temp.txt

Can't use global $_ in "my" at gnc-path-check line 60, near "my $_ "
Execution of gnc-path-check aborted due to compilation errors.

That error needs  to be fixed, but I do not know any perl.

I wondered whether the error could be related to my  new problem of 
retrieving 2 of 3 TIAA-CREF symbols with yahoo_json that I used to be 
able to retrieve automatically, but now can only retrieve manually. In 
other words, yahoo still has information on the symbols, but f::q does 
not retrieve it. The automatic retrieval works for 1, but not the other 
2 sumbols. gnc-fq-dump gives the same anwer.


I am grateful for any hint.

Best regards,

Ulrich

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2915 Coleridge Rd.
Cleveland Heights, OH 44118
216-932-2437
uhop...@gmail.com

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Re: [GNC] Fractional Hours?

2020-06-22 Thread w...@theprescotts.com
That explains something I have always wondered about. I often have transactions 
that are in US dollars in one account and Mexican pesos in the other account. 
It expressed the exchange rate as a fraction, but a decimal value would be more 
useful. Now I know how to change that.

Thanks,
Will

On 2020 Jun 22, at 06-22 19:25:12, Adrien Monteleone 
 wrote:

Check Preferences > General > Numbers > Force prices to display as decimals.

Note, some people prefer fractions for investments for exact pricing, but it 
seems this is a one-time setting.

That might be a good RFE to allow different treatment by register type.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 22, 2020 w26d174, at 7:02 PM, Andrew Clark  wrote:
> 
> I generated an invoice last month for 85.50 hours. Weirdly, the invoice
> shows this as 171/2.
> [image: invoice.png]
> I'm running version 3.10+(2020-04-11) on Debian and I haven't changed any
> settings that I know of.
> 
> How do I get decimal hours back on my tax invoices?


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Re: [GNC] Fractional Hours?

2020-06-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Check Preferences > General > Numbers > Force prices to display as decimals.

Note, some people prefer fractions for investments for exact pricing, but it 
seems this is a one-time setting.

That might be a good RFE to allow different treatment by register type.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 22, 2020 w26d174, at 7:02 PM, Andrew Clark  wrote:
> 
> I generated an invoice last month for 85.50 hours. Weirdly, the invoice
> shows this as 171/2.
> [image: invoice.png]
> I'm running version 3.10+(2020-04-11) on Debian and I haven't changed any
> settings that I know of.
> 
> How do I get decimal hours back on my tax invoices?


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[GNC] Fractional Hours?

2020-06-22 Thread Andrew Clark
I generated an invoice last month for 85.50 hours. Weirdly, the invoice
shows this as 171/2.
[image: invoice.png]
I'm running version 3.10+(2020-04-11) on Debian and I haven't changed any
settings that I know of.

How do I get decimal hours back on my tax invoices?

-- 
Cheers,

Andrew.
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Re: [GNC] Guidance request.

2020-06-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
James,

I’ll tackle a few of those for you. (not necessarily by your same point list)

First - 2.4 is several versions old. You’ll need to first install something 
from 2.6 (the next major version after 2.4), open your data file with it, and 
perform Check & Repair. Repeat this for one of the 3.x releases. (version 
number scheme changed w/3.x) Then do so again with 4.x. Always work on or with 
a backup data file of course.

Second - You asked about a 4.0 beta, that is 3.906 which is a testing release, 
but is effectively (per the announcement) a release-candidate barring any major 
issues.

Third - For documentation, there is a Help and a Tutorial & Concepts guide on 
the website, along with a Wiki. The wiki fills in some gaps in the official 
documentation and has some use-case advice. (as well as detailed instructions 
for building on Linux) You can install/build the two official docs on linux. 
See the build instructions on the wiki for more info. (they come with the Win 
version package, and I thought Mac as well, but I’ve never been able to get 
them to open from the app on Mac. I just visit the web version if I need them.)

Fourth - Syncing is being done by some users via their own file server or a 3rd 
party like Drop Box. Note, there is no mechanism in place to prevent 2 people 
from opening the same data file at the same time other than a warning dialog. 
But if you’re the only one accessing it and you just want to make it portable 
but in one physical place, then that shouldn’t be an issue. Maybe look over a 
few threads here about doing this first, at least to see if there are any 
hiccups or issues to be aware of.

Fifth - Backups are of course, on your own. Certainly rsync would work. I 
personally use BackInTime on my Linux systems. I like that it is somewhat 
similar to TimeMachine on my Mac which I prefer over other solutions I’ve tried 
through the years. Of course, rsync is a bit more ‘do it yourself’ but if you 
are running Gentoo, I don’t expect that to be a roadblock. I once played with 
Bacula but found it to be way too much for what I needed.

I’m not familiar with the GnuCash for Android app, and I’ve seen list threads 
discussing that it appears to be stalled or abandoned. You’d have to find their 
community and developers. It is a separate project from GnuCash.

Hope some of that helps,

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 22, 2020 w26d174, at 5:32 PM, james via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> So I successfully used gnucash for a small S-corp,
> from 2012, thru 2017(September).
> 
> Then several concurrent/random illnesses sidelined my gnucash usage. The 
> small s corp trudged along and I did manage to get tax returns file (both S 
> and personal) but the 100-200 transactions per year where not entered after 
> July 2017.
> 
> After years, I'm mostly healthy and ready to
> compile the latest version of gnucash on gentoo (actually 3.8b-r1 ) is 
> already installed and looking at me, to enter data.
> 
> 
> So, I'd like to set it up on postgresql and wait until version 4.0 is at 
> least released in beta. keeping copies
> on at least (2) distinct linux systems is required, and a  way (methodology) 
> to sync one to another is very important.
> 
> I'd be greatly appreciative for info on how to input the data from 2012-2017, 
> as I believe it was a 2.4 version of gnucash to gnucash 4.0+. The old 2012 
> lappy still runs, so I can boot it up, when the times is at hand to migrate 
> that old data to the system running 4.0+.
> 
> Once I do that,  move the old data, into gnucash 4.0+, I'd then manually 
> input the data for years 2017 (august forward) and 2018 and 2019 and 2020.
> 
> The company just had a credit card, a checkbook (few written) and me 
> accessing the data via gnucash.
> 
> 1. Suggested docs/guides to read
> 
> 2. upload the old data (2012-2017) lappy to lappy and test.
> 
> 3.Setup/use OFX with a bank and directly download data into GNUcash.
> 
> 4. Eventually input/correct 2020 data under the new 4.0* version.
> 
> 5. have some sorts of rigorous backup system, to a different computer 
> (options?/suggestions?). rsync by drive to remote drive ?
> 
> Anything else anyone can suggest?
> 
> Oh, my phone is Android 9 but looking at an Android 20+
> in a few months... (unlocked stacks). A discussion on Security for gnucash on 
> Android would be most welcome. Or a place to read about Gnucash security 
> issue on both linux/android.
> 
> All discussion and suggestions are welcome.

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[GNC] Guidance request.

2020-06-22 Thread james via gnucash-user



Hello,

So I successfully used gnucash for a small S-corp,
from 2012, thru 2017(September).

Then several concurrent/random illnesses sidelined my gnucash usage. The 
small s corp trudged along and I did manage to get tax returns file 
(both S and personal) but the 100-200 transactions per year where not 
entered after July 2017.


After years, I'm mostly healthy and ready to
compile the latest version of gnucash on gentoo (actually 3.8b-r1 ) is 
already installed and looking at me, to enter data.



So, I'd like to set it up on postgresql and wait until version 4.0 is at 
least released in beta. keeping copies
on at least (2) distinct linux systems is required, and a  way 
(methodology) to sync one to another is very important.


I'd be greatly appreciative for info on how to input the data from 
2012-2017, as I believe it was a 2.4 version of gnucash to gnucash 4.0+. 
The old 2012 lappy still runs, so I can boot it up, when the times is at 
hand to migrate that old data to the system running 4.0+.


Once I do that,  move the old data, into gnucash 4.0+, I'd then manually 
input the data for years 2017 (august forward) and 2018 and 2019 and 2020.


The company just had a credit card, a checkbook (few written) and me 
accessing the data via gnucash.


1. Suggested docs/guides to read

2. upload the old data (2012-2017) lappy to lappy and test.

3.Setup/use OFX with a bank and directly download data into GNUcash.

4. Eventually input/correct 2020 data under the new 4.0* version.

5. have some sorts of rigorous backup system, to a different computer 
(options?/suggestions?). rsync by drive to remote drive ?


Anything else anyone can suggest?

Oh, my phone is Android 9 but looking at an Android 20+
in a few months... (unlocked stacks). A discussion on Security for 
gnucash on Android would be most welcome. Or a place to read about 
Gnucash security issue on both linux/android.


All discussion and suggestions are welcome.

James
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Re: [GNC] QUESTION: transaction classes (tags) like QuickBooks?

2020-06-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Zi,

Welcome to GnuCash!

The answer is ‘yes, sort of’.

While it doesn’t have an explicit class facility, you can make up your own 
tagging and filtering system.

Specific to your example, each transaction can have multiple splits, that isn’t 
an issue at all.

Each split has a ‘memo’ line where you can describe the split.

Additionally, each transaction has a Description (payee if you like) *and* a 
Notes field right under the Description. You have to turn on View > Double Line 
to see it and use it.

My personal preference is to use Description for payee, Notes for a general 
transaction description or info, and the Memos as descriptions specific to each 
split.

You also have a NUM field, which may or may not be useful with text for you. 
The ‘official’ purpose for it is something like Check#, so consider that 
accordingly if you record check or bank transaction#s.

For each split, there is also an Action field that can be used. By default it 
is a physically small column, but can hold more than one word.

So you can have a single Utility transaction with splits for each property.

Read the earlier reply I sent in response to Adrian. I outline a basic method 
for tagging info and how to filter or search for it with reports. You could use 
Unit#s or street names, etc. as your tags.

Note, this won’t give you a P with breakouts as-is. It will allow you to run 
a P for each property separately.

If you want a combination or break-out style report, you’ll need to run the 
reports that get you the data, then export to a spreadsheet app and re-combine 
them from there. (or code the reports from scratch)

What you are looking for is possible, just not obvious. (even from the docs)

Regards,
Adrien


> On Jun 21, 2020 w26d173, at 2:18 PM, Zi via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I've used QuickBooks for years and am seriously considering finding a 
> (*non*web based) alternative. GnuCash looks very promising, but here's the 
> million-dollar question (and yes, I browsed the whole site, the manual, the 
> FAQ, etc. trying to find an answer to this question!)
> 
> In addition to the accounts and sub-accounts that inform reconciliation and 
> P type reporting, is there a way to *class* transactions the way QuickBooks 
> does? In other words, can one, while entering a transaction, enter something 
> like the following:
> 
> (vendor) Local Electricity Provider
> (amount) $ total amount of bill
> (split line one account) "utilities" AND THEN
> (*class*) address of investment property and unit #
> (split $ amount for this property)
> (split line two account) "utilities"
> (*class*) address of *other* investment property and unit #
> (split $ amount for *that* property)
> etc.
> thus allowing a property manager to show expenditures around *each 
> particular* property.
> 
> OR for instance one travels sometimes, and needs to record the expenses.
> Like, the appropriate transaction accounts for such would include "meals", 
> "lodging", etc. and the CLASS for each could be "Las Vegas 2020", or "Phoenix 
> 2019" thus giving one a way to show the expenditures for a *particular* trip.
> 
> If GnuCash provides this functionality, I will likely switch over to it! If, 
> however, it does not, Intuit must, sadly, still win.


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Re: [GNC] QUESTION: transaction classes (tags) like QuickBooks?

2020-06-22 Thread Adrien Monteleone
While there is no official ‘class’ or ’tag’ facility, you can still accomplish 
this somewhat.

You can do searches on any text located in any text field, Description, Memo, 
Notes, Action, Num, etc.

Thus you can create your own tagging system using # or @ if you like. (or any 
other symbol or even emoji as those are now supported)

Most reports have a Filter option where you can only report transactions that 
match (or exclude) the Filter text. Unfortunately, the report filtering only 
works for Description, Notes, and Memo fields.

Both Edit > Find & (report) Options > Filter allow regular expressions.

--

Concerning the ‘finding files’ threads, those all have been user issues. 
GnuCash hasn’t been eating data. (though you should always have a backup 
available for *any* important data for *any* app.)

I’ve been stepping through 3.0-3.10 and with the exception of a display 
discrepancy back at 3.1, I haven’t had any major issues. (plenty of small, 
minor bugs, but that is to be expected, and most of them were quickly fixed 
after reporting)

Of course, upgrade at your own pace. I believe the official policy is to 
support the current and most recent major version. So after 4.0 is out only the 
3.x series will continue to be ’supported’ but I don’t think you’ll see any 
additional 3.x releases to fix bugs. The wiki has more info on this.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jun 22, 2020 w26d174, at 7:06 AM, Adrian Yong 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Zi,
> 
> I was a QB user as well and have recently switched to Gnucash...
> 
> I have tried splitting expenses claims like Quit Rent & Assessment as an
> expense claim but split into Quit Rent and Assessment as separate Expenses
> in P & L...
> 
> The one thing which I have trouble with is the General Ledger which QB
> lists the opening and closing balances and all the transactions in between
> for individual ledger accounts... In Gnucash, you won't get that but the
> argument is we enter data using a double entry procedure, so *assuming that
> the transactions are entered correctly,* the opening and closing balance
> should be reflected in the Account Tree or Balance Sheet...
> 
> As I am not super confident that the transactions are entered correctly, I
> do have a problem with this...
> 
> As Gnucash is still under development, there are a lot of updates and I am
> hearing of people having difficulties in locating their files after
> updating... I think the current version is 3.10 and I am on 3.x... I have
> this fear of updating to 3.10... Maybe I will do it after my auditors
> confirmed that they have got everything they need...

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Re: [GNC] QUESTION: transaction classes (tags) like QuickBooks?

2020-06-22 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Zi,

Welcome to the world of GnuCash. As a user of GnuCash for nearly 15 years, I 
can tell you that it's a feature-rich application with a great user community.

Unfortunately, "classes" is not one of those features. It has been discussed 
for as long as I can remember (e.g., 
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2001-October/002612.html, 
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2007-July/020856.html, 
https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2010-December/037498.html), 
and users have an established request for it to be added (see 
https://gnucash.uservoice.com/forums/101223-feature-request/suggestions/1543027-transaction-classifications).

The developers are aware of these requests and discussions, but have not to 
date found time to implement the feature. Since this is a volunteer-run open 
source project, we accept both the limitations of the program and the input of 
interested parties who may be able to add a given feature such as this to the 
program. Examining the threads through the years will yield a number of 
workarounds that users have cobbled together. 

Despite its limitations, GnuCash remains for me a powerful and useful program. 
I heartily recommend it. 

David T. 


 Original Message 
From: Zi via gnucash-user 
Sent: Sun Jun 21 15:18:25 EDT 2020
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] QUESTION: transaction classes (tags) like QuickBooks?

Hi

I've used QuickBooks for years and am seriously considering finding a (*non*web 
based) alternative. GnuCash looks very promising, but here's the million-dollar 
question (and yes, I browsed the whole site, the manual, the FAQ, etc. trying 
to find an answer to this question!)

In addition to the accounts and sub-accounts that inform reconciliation and P 
type reporting, is there a way to *class* transactions the way QuickBooks does? 
In other words, can one, while entering a transaction, enter something like the 
following:

(vendor) Local Electricity Provider
(amount) $ total amount of bill
(split line one account) "utilities" AND THEN
(*class*) address of investment property and unit #
(split $ amount for this property)
(split line two account) "utilities"
(*class*) address of *other* investment property and unit #
(split $ amount for *that* property)
etc.
thus allowing a property manager to show expenditures around *each particular* 
property.

OR for instance one travels sometimes, and needs to record the expenses.
Like, the appropriate transaction accounts for such would include "meals", 
"lodging", etc. and the CLASS for each could be "Las Vegas 2020", or "Phoenix 
2019" thus giving one a way to show the expenditures for a *particular* trip.

If GnuCash provides this functionality, I will likely switch over to it! If, 
however, it does not, Intuit must, sadly, still win.

Thanks so much!

Sent from ProtonMail mobile
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Re: [GNC] QUESTION: transaction classes (tags) like QuickBooks?

2020-06-22 Thread Adrian Yong
Hi Zi,

I was a QB user as well and have recently switched to Gnucash...

I have tried splitting expenses claims like Quit Rent & Assessment as an
expense claim but split into Quit Rent and Assessment as separate Expenses
in P & L...

The one thing which I have trouble with is the General Ledger which QB
lists the opening and closing balances and all the transactions in between
for individual ledger accounts... In Gnucash, you won't get that but the
argument is we enter data using a double entry procedure, so *assuming that
the transactions are entered correctly,* the opening and closing balance
should be reflected in the Account Tree or Balance Sheet...

As I am not super confident that the transactions are entered correctly, I
do have a problem with this...

As Gnucash is still under development, there are a lot of updates and I am
hearing of people having difficulties in locating their files after
updating... I think the current version is 3.10 and I am on 3.x... I have
this fear of updating to 3.10... Maybe I will do it after my auditors
confirmed that they have got everything they need...

Regards,
Adrian

On Mon, 22 Jun. 2020, 17:52 Zi via gnucash-user, 
wrote:

> Hi
>
> I've used QuickBooks for years and am seriously considering finding a
> (*non*web based) alternative. GnuCash looks very promising, but here's the
> million-dollar question (and yes, I browsed the whole site, the manual, the
> FAQ, etc. trying to find an answer to this question!)
>
> In addition to the accounts and sub-accounts that inform reconciliation
> and P type reporting, is there a way to *class* transactions the way
> QuickBooks does? In other words, can one, while entering a transaction,
> enter something like the following:
>
> (vendor) Local Electricity Provider
> (amount) $ total amount of bill
> (split line one account) "utilities" AND THEN
> (*class*) address of investment property and unit #
> (split $ amount for this property)
> (split line two account) "utilities"
> (*class*) address of *other* investment property and unit #
> (split $ amount for *that* property)
> etc.
> thus allowing a property manager to show expenditures around *each
> particular* property.
>
> OR for instance one travels sometimes, and needs to record the expenses.
> Like, the appropriate transaction accounts for such would include "meals",
> "lodging", etc. and the CLASS for each could be "Las Vegas 2020", or
> "Phoenix 2019" thus giving one a way to show the expenditures for a
> *particular* trip.
>
> If GnuCash provides this functionality, I will likely switch over to it!
> If, however, it does not, Intuit must, sadly, still win.
>
> Thanks so much!
>
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[GNC] QUESTION: transaction classes (tags) like QuickBooks?

2020-06-22 Thread Zi via gnucash-user
Hi

I've used QuickBooks for years and am seriously considering finding a (*non*web 
based) alternative. GnuCash looks very promising, but here's the million-dollar 
question (and yes, I browsed the whole site, the manual, the FAQ, etc. trying 
to find an answer to this question!)

In addition to the accounts and sub-accounts that inform reconciliation and P 
type reporting, is there a way to *class* transactions the way QuickBooks does? 
In other words, can one, while entering a transaction, enter something like the 
following:

(vendor) Local Electricity Provider
(amount) $ total amount of bill
(split line one account) "utilities" AND THEN
(*class*) address of investment property and unit #
(split $ amount for this property)
(split line two account) "utilities"
(*class*) address of *other* investment property and unit #
(split $ amount for *that* property)
etc.
thus allowing a property manager to show expenditures around *each particular* 
property.

OR for instance one travels sometimes, and needs to record the expenses.
Like, the appropriate transaction accounts for such would include "meals", 
"lodging", etc. and the CLASS for each could be "Las Vegas 2020", or "Phoenix 
2019" thus giving one a way to show the expenditures for a *particular* trip.

If GnuCash provides this functionality, I will likely switch over to it! If, 
however, it does not, Intuit must, sadly, still win.

Thanks so much!

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Re: [GNC] New version does not retain resized columns

2020-06-22 Thread Tony Vanson
Thank you, I'll give that a shot.
Cheers

On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 4:36 PM Geert Janssens 
wrote:

> Op maandag 22 juni 2020 10:51:46 CEST schreef Tony Vanson:
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > Just installed GnuCash 3.906 on Windows 10 and find that it doesn't
> retain
>
> > the accounts column widths. I set the widths by double clicking each
>
> > column's header and then pulling the left most Transfer column limiter to
>
> > the left and let it snap back. This it has the desired effect of resizing
>
> > the columns so that all digits appear but when I close and open the
> account
>
> > it has reverted back to the old widths.
>
> > Any clues please?
>
>
>
> Column width handling in gnucash 3.9x has been completely redesigned. You
> can no longer save column widths for individual registers (unless you keep
> that register open permanently). Instead you can set default column widths
> per register class. You do so by first setting the column widths as you
> prefer and then use the Window menu to save the default column widths.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Geert
>


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Re: [GNC] New version does not retain resized columns

2020-06-22 Thread Geert Janssens
Op maandag 22 juni 2020 10:51:46 CEST schreef Tony Vanson:
> Hi all,
> Just installed GnuCash 3.906 on Windows 10 and find that it doesn't retain
> the accounts column widths. I set the widths by double clicking each
> column's header and then pulling the left most Transfer column limiter to
> the left and let it snap back. This it has the desired effect of resizing
> the columns so that all digits appear but when I close and open the account
> it has reverted back to the old widths.
> Any clues please?

Column width handling in gnucash 3.9x has been completely redesigned. You can 
no 
longer save column widths for individual registers (unless you keep that 
register open 
permanently). Instead you can set default column widths per register class. You 
do so 
by first setting the column widths as you prefer and then use the Window menu 
to save 
the default column widths.

Regards,

Geert
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[GNC] New version does not retain resized columns

2020-06-22 Thread Tony Vanson
Hi all,
Just installed GnuCash 3.906 on Windows 10 and find that it doesn't retain
the accounts column widths. I set the widths by double clicking each
column's header and then pulling the left most Transfer column limiter to
the left and let it snap back. This it has the desired effect of resizing
the columns so that all digits appear but when I close and open the account
it has reverted back to the old widths.
Any clues please?
Cheers
-- 
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*the better I was*
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