Re: [GNC] Unexpected change in reconcile status

[Christopher Lam]

The reconcile-status being reset when editing past transactions'
description/notes/memo was a change that was later reverted, although I
cannot find the exact release.

In latest releases, reconcile-status is reset only when editing split's
account & amount IIRC.

On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 05:45, John Angelico  wrote:

> Michael and Janet,
>
> I would consider this to be a logical consequence of editing a transaction
> (and potentially changing the amount).
>
> In commercial packages like Quicken/Reckon, MYOB, Xero et al, the same
> applies. Other packages don't allow you to change a completed transaction -
> you must do a correcting entry to fix some error.
>
> As long as you are aware of the behaviour, you can re-reconcile the
> transaction once you have finished editing.
>
> It's mainly a surprise later, when we forget to do that, at the time.
>
> Regards,
> John Angelico
> Melbourne Aust
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Re: [GNC] Unexpected change in reconcile status

[John Angelico]

Michael and Janet,

I would consider this to be a logical consequence of editing a transaction
(and potentially changing the amount).

In commercial packages like Quicken/Reckon, MYOB, Xero et al, the same
applies. Other packages don't allow you to change a completed transaction -
you must do a correcting entry to fix some error.

As long as you are aware of the behaviour, you can re-reconcile the
transaction once you have finished editing.

It's mainly a surprise later, when we forget to do that, at the time.

Regards,
John Angelico
Melbourne Aust
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Re: [GNC] Asset accounts: cost, or value?

[Stan Brown]

On 2020-09-01 19:49, Marcus Winston wrote:
> I had thought that the Assets:Fixed assets:House would reflect the value of
> the house. But after putting the purchase price of the house, and then
> adding the costs to purchase (recording fees, appraisal, etc), I conclude
> that the House account actually reflects the total cost of the house, and
> not necessarily its value. First question: is that a correct view of the
> Assets:Fixed assets:House1 account?

Any tracking of value that you might do would be mere speculation. Even
an appraisal is no indication of how much your house is really worth:
both when I moved earlier this year both houses' appraisals were about
20% different from the selling price.

Valuing assets on a balance sheet at somebody's guess of what they're
worth, known as "writing to market", is part of shady accounting
practices and, if I'm not mistaken, partly responsible for the real
estate crash of 2008-2011. Don't do it!

And of course for tax purposes, as you indicated, you _have_ to work
from actual costs, not from guesses about value. Keeping your books on a
cost basis will make that less difficult when you make out your tax returns.

-- 
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Re: [GNC] Unexpected change in reconcile status

[Michael via gnucash-user]

Hi Janet, I'm just another user, but I believe that is normal behavior.  
I haven't changed anything recently but seem to remember being annoyed 
in the past when any little change unreconciled a transaction.  Michael


On 9/1/20 8:52 AM, Jan Bates via gnucash-user wrote:

I sometimes change the description on a reconciled transaction -- I like all 
similar transactions to have a similar description. However, it seems that 
making such changes, changes the reconciled status from reconciled to NOT 
reconciled. This causes problems the next time I try to reconcile the account 
in question.
Is this a feature or a bug? In other words is it normal behavior or has 
something changed to make this happen. I have not noticed it before.
I thank you for any help you can provide.
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703-901-8261---
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Re: [GNC] Crash attempting to import transactions from CSV on W10

[A Harvey]

Thanks for your responses.

To David Carlson: I have taken advantage of the GNC feature that allows me
to save the format for the CSV files.  I have one for each institution that
I import from and haven't changed them, so I don't think it is a date
format problem.  Also, thanks for the info on the nightly builds.  I
suspected they are work in progress.

To David H.:  GNC 4.1 works fine for me, and as you advise I will stick
with that until the next release..  I often try the nightly builds as I
sometimes find changes that are useful to me.  Just thought I should
mention that I had the problem with the more recent ones.

To John Ralls: I will add it to the bug reports in case it may turn out to
be helpful to the developers.

Thanks again,
-Arthur

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 11:21 PM John Ralls  wrote:

> Arthur,
>
> This really isn't the right place. Please file a bug report (
> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_think_I_found_a_bug._How_do_I_report_it.3F).
> It's way too easy for reports on the mailing list to get lost. Do keep in
> mind that GnuCash is developed and maintained entirely by a very few
> volunteers and while we like to know about every crasher (especially new
> ones in nightly builds) we have nowhere near enough time to respond in
> detail to every report.
>
> Regards,
> John Ralls
>
> > On Sep 1, 2020, at 7:40 PM, David H  wrote:
> >
> > Hi Arthur,
> >
> > You sent it to the right place :-)
> >
> > 4.1 is the current version, what exactly do you mean by maintenance
> builds
> > ? If you mean nightly builds yeah expect things to get buggered up
> > sometimes so if it's a problem for you I  suggest you go back to the
> stable
> > release and stay there.
> >
> > Cheers David H
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 12:00, A Harvey  wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> I sent the forwarded message below about a dozen days ago but have
> received
> >> no comments.  I know everyone is busy and it may take some time for
> anyone
> >> to reply.  In the interim, I would like to ask two quick meta-questions
> if
> >> I may:
> >>
> >> 1) Did I send this message to the wrong list and, if so, to where
> should I
> >> send it?
> >>
> >> 2) Should I expect that the maintenance builds are likely to break
> parts of
> >> Gnucash that previously worked?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> -Arthur
> >>
> >>
> >> -- Forwarded message -
> >> From: A Harvey 
> >> Date: Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:01 PM
> >> Subject: Crash attempting to import transactions from CSV on W10
> >> To: gnucash-user 
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >> I'm getting a crash when I try to import transactions from a CSV and
> >> am hoping someone can help.  Here are the gory details.
> >>
> >> OS is Windows 10.
> >> Gnucash version gnucash-4.1-2020-08-01-git-4.1-12-g12ab85fa6+   works
> fine.
> >> All subsequent versions through ...08-15... show the following behavior:
> >> Upon attempting to import transactions from a CSV, the import assistant
> >> works correctly up to the page where it should show the results of the
> >> import mapping and allow certain fields to be modified.  When I click on
> >> NEXT to get to that page, the application crashes.
> >>
> >> I ran a trace with --debug and --extra for both the working and
> non-working
> >> versions and compared them.  Near the end of the miles of output, the
> >> non-working version trace file contained the following:
> >> .
> >> .
> >> * 16:15:16  INFO  [xaccAccountGetBalanceInCurrency]
> baln=0/1
> >> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> >> warning: Date could not be understood.
> >> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> >> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> >> warning: Date could not be understood.
> >> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> >> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
> >> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
> >> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
> >> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> >> warning: Date could not be understood.
> >> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> >> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
> >> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
> >> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
> >> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> >> warning: Date could not be understood.
> >> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> >> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
> >> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
> >> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
> >> * 16:16:28  INFO  [qof_event_generate_internal] id=6
> >> hi=1345f788 han=66630812 data=
> >> * 16:16:28  INFO  [qof_event_generate_internal] id=4
> >> hi=14016920 han=66674c38 data=
> >> .
> >> .
> >> Any suggestions?
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> -Arthur
> >> ___
> 

Re: [GNC] Asset accounts: cost, or value?

[David Carlson]

Nobody knows the value of a fixed asset like a house other than the buyer
when he makes an offer.  This includes GnuCash.  There are ways to trick
GnuCash into showing what your tax assessor or Zillow might estimate, but
it would be a lot of work to manually update your estimates from time to
time.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 9:51 PM Marcus Winston 
wrote:

> I'm working on tracking asset values, costs, capital gains, and such, in
> GnuCash. Specifically for my house (primary residence). I've sold one
> house, and own a second.  I have created some accounts for this:
>
> Assets:Fixed assets:House1
> Assets:Fixed assets:House2
> Liabilities:Mortgage
> Income:Capital Gains:House
> Expenses:Asset Purchase
> Expenses:Asset Sell
>
> I had thought that the Assets:Fixed assets:House would reflect the value of
> the house. But after putting the purchase price of the house, and then
> adding the costs to purchase (recording fees, appraisal, etc), I conclude
> that the House account actually reflects the total cost of the house, and
> not necessarily its value. First question: is that a correct view of the
> Assets:Fixed assets:House1 account?
>
> Since I've sold that house, I can add the costs-to-sell to the basis of
> that house, and from there, calculate capital gains. And it's this that
> leads me to think that the House1 asset account reflects the cost of the
> house, and not the value of the house.
>
> Regards,
> MW
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Re: [GNC] Crash attempting to import transactions from CSV on W10

[John Ralls]

Arthur, 

This really isn't the right place. Please file a bug report 
(https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/FAQ#Q:_I_think_I_found_a_bug._How_do_I_report_it.3F).
 It's way too easy for reports on the mailing list to get lost. Do keep in mind 
that GnuCash is developed and maintained entirely by a very few volunteers and 
while we like to know about every crasher (especially new ones in nightly 
builds) we have nowhere near enough time to respond in detail to every report.

Regards,
John Ralls

> On Sep 1, 2020, at 7:40 PM, David H  wrote:
> 
> Hi Arthur,
> 
> You sent it to the right place :-)
> 
> 4.1 is the current version, what exactly do you mean by maintenance builds
> ? If you mean nightly builds yeah expect things to get buggered up
> sometimes so if it's a problem for you I  suggest you go back to the stable
> release and stay there.
> 
> Cheers David H
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 12:00, A Harvey  wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> I sent the forwarded message below about a dozen days ago but have received
>> no comments.  I know everyone is busy and it may take some time for anyone
>> to reply.  In the interim, I would like to ask two quick meta-questions if
>> I may:
>> 
>> 1) Did I send this message to the wrong list and, if so, to where should I
>> send it?
>> 
>> 2) Should I expect that the maintenance builds are likely to break parts of
>> Gnucash that previously worked?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> -Arthur
>> 
>> 
>> -- Forwarded message -
>> From: A Harvey 
>> Date: Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:01 PM
>> Subject: Crash attempting to import transactions from CSV on W10
>> To: gnucash-user 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> I'm getting a crash when I try to import transactions from a CSV and
>> am hoping someone can help.  Here are the gory details.
>> 
>> OS is Windows 10.
>> Gnucash version gnucash-4.1-2020-08-01-git-4.1-12-g12ab85fa6+   works fine.
>> All subsequent versions through ...08-15... show the following behavior:
>> Upon attempting to import transactions from a CSV, the import assistant
>> works correctly up to the page where it should show the results of the
>> import mapping and allow certain fields to be modified.  When I click on
>> NEXT to get to that page, the application crashes.
>> 
>> I ran a trace with --debug and --extra for both the working and non-working
>> versions and compared them.  Near the end of the miles of output, the
>> non-working version trace file contained the following:
>> .
>> .
>> * 16:15:16  INFO  [xaccAccountGetBalanceInCurrency]  baln=0/1
>> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
>> warning: Date could not be understood.
>> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
>> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
>> warning: Date could not be understood.
>> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
>> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
>> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
>> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
>> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
>> warning: Date could not be understood.
>> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
>> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
>> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
>> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
>> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
>> warning: Date could not be understood.
>> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
>> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
>> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
>> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
>> * 16:16:28  INFO  [qof_event_generate_internal] id=6
>> hi=1345f788 han=66630812 data=
>> * 16:16:28  INFO  [qof_event_generate_internal] id=4
>> hi=14016920 han=66674c38 data=
>> .
>> .
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> -Arthur
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Re: [GNC] Location of gtk css file on MacOS

[John Ralls]

As long as you haven't messed with anything the two documented locations are:
~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css
~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css

The second is because GnuCash.app/Contents/Resources/etc/gnucash/environment 
sets XDG_CONFIG_HOME to $HOME/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config.

Documentation aside, older versions of Gtk would look in other places for 
backwards compatibility, like ~/.config/gtk-3.0 and ~/.gtk-3.0, and 
~/.themes/Adwaita. You might to a global search for files named gtk.css to make 
sure that there isn't a leftover somewhere overriding the one you want to use.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Sep 1, 2020, at 7:33 PM, David H  wrote:
> 
> Will,
> 
> The other file ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0.css
> that you said also existed only exists as an empty folder on my system ???
> 
> Cheers David H.
> 
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 11:28, w...@theprescotts.com 
> wrote:
> 
>> David,
>> 
>> Thanks for the response. It is curious. But I have tried that numerous
>> times with no effect.
>> 
>> Will
>> 
>> On 2020 Sep 1, at 09-01 18:50:05, David H  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Will,
>> 
>> I'm running 4.1 on the latest Big Sur Public Beta - it's picking up the
>> first one (/Users/davidh/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css)
>> which only has the following in it ...
>> 
>> * {
>> font-size: 12px;
>> }
>> 
>> If I change the 12px to 18 px and restart GnuCash I can see the difference
>> right away.
>> 
>> Cheers David H.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 08:58, w...@theprescotts.com > w...@theprescotts.com> > w...@theprescotts.com>> wrote:
>> I am running Gnucash 4.1.4 on MacOS 10.15.6 and I am looking for the
>> location of the gtk.css file that is controlling the display. I have seen
>> discussion of it here and have looked at the wiki but I am still having
>> trouble.
>> 
>> I have files:
>> ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css
>> ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0.css
>> 
>> However, it doesn't look like Gnucash is reading or paying attention to
>> either. If I run Gnucash in the gtk debugger with:
>> 
>> GTK_DEBUG=interactive
>> /Applications/Gnucash/Gnucash-4.1.4/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash
>> 
>> It does appear to read the first one, but not when I run Gnucash normally
>> (i.e. by double clicking on the Gnucash.app or from the command line).
>> 
>> Any suggestions?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Will
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[GNC] Unexpected change in reconcile status

[Jan Bates via gnucash-user]

I sometimes change the description on a reconciled transaction -- I like all 
similar transactions to have a similar description. However, it seems that 
making such changes, changes the reconciled status from reconciled to NOT 
reconciled. This causes problems the next time I try to reconcile the account 
in question. 
Is this a feature or a bug? In other words is it normal behavior or has 
something changed to make this happen. I have not noticed it before. 
I thank you for any help you can provide.
---Janet L. Bates Home: 571-312-4080 Cell: 
703-901-8261---
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[GNC] Asset accounts: cost, or value?

[Marcus Winston]

I'm working on tracking asset values, costs, capital gains, and such, in
GnuCash. Specifically for my house (primary residence). I've sold one
house, and own a second.  I have created some accounts for this:

Assets:Fixed assets:House1
Assets:Fixed assets:House2
Liabilities:Mortgage
Income:Capital Gains:House
Expenses:Asset Purchase
Expenses:Asset Sell

I had thought that the Assets:Fixed assets:House would reflect the value of
the house. But after putting the purchase price of the house, and then
adding the costs to purchase (recording fees, appraisal, etc), I conclude
that the House account actually reflects the total cost of the house, and
not necessarily its value. First question: is that a correct view of the
Assets:Fixed assets:House1 account?

Since I've sold that house, I can add the costs-to-sell to the basis of
that house, and from there, calculate capital gains. And it's this that
leads me to think that the House1 asset account reflects the cost of the
house, and not the value of the house.

Regards,
MW
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Crash attempting to import transactions from CSV on W10

[David H]

Hi Arthur,

You sent it to the right place :-)

4.1 is the current version, what exactly do you mean by maintenance builds
? If you mean nightly builds yeah expect things to get buggered up
sometimes so if it's a problem for you I  suggest you go back to the stable
release and stay there.

Cheers David H


On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 12:00, A Harvey  wrote:

> Hi,
> I sent the forwarded message below about a dozen days ago but have received
> no comments.  I know everyone is busy and it may take some time for anyone
> to reply.  In the interim, I would like to ask two quick meta-questions if
> I may:
>
> 1) Did I send this message to the wrong list and, if so, to where should I
> send it?
>
> 2) Should I expect that the maintenance builds are likely to break parts of
> Gnucash that previously worked?
>
> Thanks,
> -Arthur
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: A Harvey 
> Date: Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:01 PM
> Subject: Crash attempting to import transactions from CSV on W10
> To: gnucash-user 
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm getting a crash when I try to import transactions from a CSV and
> am hoping someone can help.  Here are the gory details.
>
> OS is Windows 10.
> Gnucash version gnucash-4.1-2020-08-01-git-4.1-12-g12ab85fa6+   works fine.
> All subsequent versions through ...08-15... show the following behavior:
> Upon attempting to import transactions from a CSV, the import assistant
> works correctly up to the page where it should show the results of the
> import mapping and allow certain fields to be modified.  When I click on
> NEXT to get to that page, the application crashes.
>
> I ran a trace with --debug and --extra for both the working and non-working
> versions and compared them.  Near the end of the miles of output, the
> non-working version trace file contained the following:
> .
> .
> * 16:15:16  INFO  [xaccAccountGetBalanceInCurrency]  baln=0/1
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> warning: Date could not be understood.
> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> warning: Date could not be understood.
> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> warning: Date could not be understood.
> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> warning: Date could not be understood.
> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
> * 16:16:28  INFO  [qof_event_generate_internal] id=6
> hi=1345f788 han=66630812 data=
> * 16:16:28  INFO  [qof_event_generate_internal] id=4
> hi=14016920 han=66674c38 data=
> .
> .
> Any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> -Arthur
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Re: [GNC] Location of gtk css file on MacOS

[David H]

Will,

The other file ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0.css
that you said also existed only exists as an empty folder on my system ???

Cheers David H.

On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 11:28, w...@theprescotts.com 
wrote:

> David,
>
> Thanks for the response. It is curious. But I have tried that numerous
> times with no effect.
>
> Will
>
> On 2020 Sep 1, at 09-01 18:50:05, David H  wrote:
>
> Hi Will,
>
> I'm running 4.1 on the latest Big Sur Public Beta - it's picking up the
> first one (/Users/davidh/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css)
> which only has the following in it ...
>
> * {
>  font-size: 12px;
> }
>
> If I change the 12px to 18 px and restart GnuCash I can see the difference
> right away.
>
> Cheers David H.
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 08:58, w...@theprescotts.com  w...@theprescotts.com>  w...@theprescotts.com>> wrote:
> I am running Gnucash 4.1.4 on MacOS 10.15.6 and I am looking for the
> location of the gtk.css file that is controlling the display. I have seen
> discussion of it here and have looked at the wiki but I am still having
> trouble.
>
> I have files:
> ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css
> ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0.css
>
> However, it doesn't look like Gnucash is reading or paying attention to
> either. If I run Gnucash in the gtk debugger with:
>
> GTK_DEBUG=interactive
> /Applications/Gnucash/Gnucash-4.1.4/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash
>
> It does appear to read the first one, but not when I run Gnucash normally
> (i.e. by double clicking on the Gnucash.app or from the command line).
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
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Re: [GNC] Fwd: Crash attempting to import transactions from CSV on W10

[David Carlson]

Be sure to set the date format on the import page  to match the format used
in your csv file before you try to import.  This is a known issue going
back a long time.  I thought that the current release had been modified to
address this issue, but apparently not.  I cannot check it from here.

Regarding maintenance builds, they may or may not work properly, but they
are available for testing.  Of course, try them first on disposable copies
of your data.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 9:01 PM A Harvey  wrote:

> Hi,
> I sent the forwarded message below about a dozen days ago but have received
> no comments.  I know everyone is busy and it may take some time for anyone
> to reply.  In the interim, I would like to ask two quick meta-questions if
> I may:
>
> 1) Did I send this message to the wrong list and, if so, to where should I
> send it?
>
> 2) Should I expect that the maintenance builds are likely to break parts of
> Gnucash that previously worked?
>
> Thanks,
> -Arthur
>
>
> -- Forwarded message -
> From: A Harvey 
> Date: Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:01 PM
> Subject: Crash attempting to import transactions from CSV on W10
> To: gnucash-user 
>
>
> Hi,
> I'm getting a crash when I try to import transactions from a CSV and
> am hoping someone can help.  Here are the gory details.
>
> OS is Windows 10.
> Gnucash version gnucash-4.1-2020-08-01-git-4.1-12-g12ab85fa6+   works fine.
> All subsequent versions through ...08-15... show the following behavior:
> Upon attempting to import transactions from a CSV, the import assistant
> works correctly up to the page where it should show the results of the
> import mapping and allow certain fields to be modified.  When I click on
> NEXT to get to that page, the application crashes.
>
> I ran a trace with --debug and --extra for both the working and non-working
> versions and compared them.  Near the end of the miles of output, the
> non-working version trace file contained the following:
> .
> .
> * 16:15:16  INFO  [xaccAccountGetBalanceInCurrency]  baln=0/1
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> warning: Date could not be understood.
> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> warning: Date could not be understood.
> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> warning: Date could not be understood.
> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
> warning: Date could not be understood.
> Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
> * 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
> warning: Deposit could not be understood.
> Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
> * 16:16:28  INFO  [qof_event_generate_internal] id=6
> hi=1345f788 han=66630812 data=
> * 16:16:28  INFO  [qof_event_generate_internal] id=4
> hi=14016920 han=66674c38 data=
> .
> .
> Any suggestions?
>
> Regards,
> -Arthur
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[GNC] Fwd: Crash attempting to import transactions from CSV on W10

[A Harvey]

Hi,
I sent the forwarded message below about a dozen days ago but have received
no comments.  I know everyone is busy and it may take some time for anyone
to reply.  In the interim, I would like to ask two quick meta-questions if
I may:

1) Did I send this message to the wrong list and, if so, to where should I
send it?

2) Should I expect that the maintenance builds are likely to break parts of
Gnucash that previously worked?

Thanks,
-Arthur


-- Forwarded message -
From: A Harvey 
Date: Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 5:01 PM
Subject: Crash attempting to import transactions from CSV on W10
To: gnucash-user 


Hi,
I'm getting a crash when I try to import transactions from a CSV and
am hoping someone can help.  Here are the gory details.

OS is Windows 10.
Gnucash version gnucash-4.1-2020-08-01-git-4.1-12-g12ab85fa6+   works fine.
All subsequent versions through ...08-15... show the following behavior:
Upon attempting to import transactions from a CSV, the import assistant
works correctly up to the page where it should show the results of the
import mapping and allow certain fields to be modified.  When I click on
NEXT to get to that page, the application crashes.

I ran a trace with --debug and --extra for both the working and non-working
versions and compared them.  Near the end of the miles of output, the
non-working version trace file contained the following:
.
.
* 16:15:16  INFO  [xaccAccountGetBalanceInCurrency]  baln=0/1
* 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
warning: Date could not be understood.
Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
* 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
warning: Date could not be understood.
Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
* 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
warning: Deposit could not be understood.
Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
* 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
warning: Date could not be understood.
Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
* 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
warning: Deposit could not be understood.
Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
* 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_trans_props] User
warning: Date could not be understood.
Value can't be parsed into a date using the selected date format.
* 16:15:58  INFO  [GncTxImport::update_pre_split_props] User
warning: Deposit could not be understood.
Value doesn't appear to contain a valid number.
* 16:16:28  INFO  [qof_event_generate_internal] id=6
hi=1345f788 han=66630812 data=
* 16:16:28  INFO  [qof_event_generate_internal] id=4
hi=14016920 han=66674c38 data=
.
.
Any suggestions?

Regards,
-Arthur
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Re: [GNC] Location of gtk css file on MacOS

[w...@theprescotts.com]

David,

Thanks for the response. It is curious. But I have tried that numerous times 
with no effect.

Will

On 2020 Sep 1, at 09-01 18:50:05, David H  wrote:

Hi Will,

I'm running 4.1 on the latest Big Sur Public Beta - it's picking up the first 
one (/Users/davidh/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css) which only 
has the following in it ...

* {
 font-size: 12px;
}

If I change the 12px to 18 px and restart GnuCash I can see the difference 
right away.

Cheers David H.



On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 08:58, w...@theprescotts.com 
 mailto:w...@theprescotts.com>> wrote:
I am running Gnucash 4.1.4 on MacOS 10.15.6 and I am looking for the location 
of the gtk.css file that is controlling the display. I have seen discussion of 
it here and have looked at the wiki but I am still having trouble.

I have files:
~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css
~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0.css

However, it doesn't look like Gnucash is reading or paying attention to either. 
If I run Gnucash in the gtk debugger with:

GTK_DEBUG=interactive 
/Applications/Gnucash/Gnucash-4.1.4/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash

It does appear to read the first one, but not when I run Gnucash normally (i.e. 
by double clicking on the Gnucash.app or from the command line).

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Will
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Re: [GNC] Location of gtk css file on MacOS

[David H]

Hi Will,

I'm running 4.1 on the latest Big Sur Public Beta - it's picking up the
first one (/Users/davidh/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css)
which only has the following in it ...

* {
 font-size: 12px;
}

If I change the 12px to 18 px and restart GnuCash I can see the difference
right away.

Cheers David H.



On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 08:58, w...@theprescotts.com 
wrote:

> I am running Gnucash 4.1.4 on MacOS 10.15.6 and I am looking for the
> location of the gtk.css file that is controlling the display. I have seen
> discussion of it here and have looked at the wiki but I am still having
> trouble.
>
> I have files:
> ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css
> ~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0.css
>
> However, it doesn't look like Gnucash is reading or paying attention to
> either. If I run Gnucash in the gtk debugger with:
>
> GTK_DEBUG=interactive
> /Applications/Gnucash/Gnucash-4.1.4/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash
>
> It does appear to read the first one, but not when I run Gnucash normally
> (i.e. by double clicking on the Gnucash.app or from the command line).
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks,
> Will
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[GNC] Location of gtk css file on MacOS

[w...@theprescotts.com]

I am running Gnucash 4.1.4 on MacOS 10.15.6 and I am looking for the location 
of the gtk.css file that is controlling the display. I have seen discussion of 
it here and have looked at the wiki but I am still having trouble.

I have files:
~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/gtk-3.0.css
~/Library/Application Support/Gnucash/config/gtk-3.0.css

However, it doesn't look like Gnucash is reading or paying attention to either. 
If I run Gnucash in the gtk debugger with:

GTK_DEBUG=interactive 
/Applications/Gnucash/Gnucash-4.1.4/Gnucash.app/Contents/MacOS/Gnucash

It does appear to read the first one, but not when I run Gnucash normally (i.e. 
by double clicking on the Gnucash.app or from the command line).

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Will
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Re: [GNC] Problems with a new installation

[David H]

Hi Eric,

I find that disabling the laptop monitor altogether in display settings
works for me so as long as he's not interested in seeing anything at all on
the laptop screen you could try that...

Regards David H.


On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 02:11, Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I've been using Gnucash under Windows 10 and Linux for a couple of years
> now with no real issues. However, when I attempted to install the
> program (4.0) for my father's use on his Windows 10 laptop I ran into a
> couple of very frustrating issues.
>
> The first: Dad's 88. To ease the strain on his eyes he has a large
> external monitor hooked up to his laptop, and that external monitor is
> designated as his main monitor. However, when Gnucash was installed it
> would only open on the much smaller built-in monitor on the laptop. Yes,
> I can drag the screen across to the main monitor, but any and every
> action...reconciliation, import of transactions, even choosing an action
> from a drop-down menu...opens up on the small laptop screen. I haven't
> found any way to force these windows onto the main monitor. It makes the
> program virtually unusable.
>
> Another issue was the import of transactions. His credit union offers
> .QFX downloads, which import into Gnucash. However, the debits appear as
> credits and the credits appear as debits. I know how to resolve this
> problem with .CSV imports, but I've never had this issue importing .QFX
> and I'm not sure how to correct it.
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
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[GNC] new tool for Interactive Gnucash reports in Dash

[Joel Aufrecht]

Hello,

Announcing Ledger Explorer, which provides Gnucash Cash Flow and Balance
Sheet interactive graphs with drilldown to individual transactions. (
Screenshots
).
It's built on Dash, reads Gnucash CSV transaction exports, is GPL, and
is available
for alpha-testing . It
includes a Gnucash sample data set (CSV
,
XML
)
which some may find useful for other purposes.


Details
As a long-time Gnucash user for household accounting, I have struggled to
get useful planning information back out.  Some of this is because of
Gnucash's reporting limitations, but just as much is because of garbage
in→garbage out problems.  An anomalous value in a report may be meaningful,
or it may be caused by miscategorized transactions.  Navigating through the
account ledgers, searching, and filtering all require multiple steps (menu
clicks, menu selections, dialog boxes, etc) for almost any action.

I built a new report using Dash because it's a F/OSS interactive data
visualization tool that is cross-platform (browser-based) and requires only
Python (and CSS and HTMLish).  The graphical elements include a bar chart
time series for transactions by month, quarter, or year, so it's easy to
select one month or a few months of data.  This opens a sunburst control
showing the total $s, and clicking part of the sunburst drills into
sub-accounts, with no depth limit.  It also loads all selected transactions
for the accounts and sub-accounts and selected date range into a table.
The table has instantaneous sorting, filtering, and pagination in one place
with no menu commands or separate dialogs needed.  Hence the name: Ledger
Explorer.

Questions, suggestions, complaints, and code all welcome,

Joel
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Re: [GNC] Register Column Widths

[David H]

Stop looking :-)

As per John R after 4.1 release...

The type-group defaults are only for Invoices, Bills, Vouchers, and Credit
Notes. All other registers behave as they did in 3.10, though you may need
to use Time Machine to bring back your $GNC_DATA_HOME/books/foo.gcm if it
got messed up by 3.906.

See https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/pull/743 for our discussion and
resolution.

Cheers David H.

On Wed, 2 Sep 2020 at 05:49, David T. via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Could anyone tell me the current status on the storage of saved register
> column widths? I was under the impression that there was a change made
> somewhat recently to the the logic of how GNC stored column widths for
> different registers.
>
> Previously, register column widths were stored on an account-by-account
> basis; the new system stored only a single setting for all accounts of a
> given type, and users had to actively save the column width settings for
> a given account type. There was a bit of discussion about where in the
> menus the column save feature was to be found. However, I have looked in
> every menu and submenu I could think of (File->Properties,
> Edit->Preferences, View, and Windows, to name a few), and I cannot see
> this save option. Searches of Bugzilla, the lists, and Git failed to
> turn up information that would inform me, so I turn to the list for
> assistance.
>
> If this feature is still present in GNC4.1 on Windows, how am I to save
> a given set of column widths?
>
> TIA,
>
> David T.
>
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[GNC] Register Column Widths

[David T. via gnucash-user]

Hi,

Could anyone tell me the current status on the storage of saved register 
column widths? I was under the impression that there was a change made 
somewhat recently to the the logic of how GNC stored column widths for 
different registers.


Previously, register column widths were stored on an account-by-account 
basis; the new system stored only a single setting for all accounts of a 
given type, and users had to actively save the column width settings for 
a given account type. There was a bit of discussion about where in the 
menus the column save feature was to be found. However, I have looked in 
every menu and submenu I could think of (File->Properties, 
Edit->Preferences, View, and Windows, to name a few), and I cannot see 
this save option. Searches of Bugzilla, the lists, and Git failed to 
turn up information that would inform me, so I turn to the list for 
assistance.


If this feature is still present in GNC4.1 on Windows, how am I to save 
a given set of column widths?


TIA,

David T.

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Re: [GNC] Problems with a new installation

[David Carlson]

I cannot address the Windows 10 monitor handling issue, but if you believe
that the import issue is the one covered by
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797593, then you may need to
massage the OFX file in a text editor prior to import unless that
enhancement request get into the program.  I see that GnuCash will not see
the massaged import files unless you keep the OFX/QFX suffix after
massaging it

On Tue, Sep 1, 2020 at 11:11 AM Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> I've been using Gnucash under Windows 10 and Linux for a couple of years
> now with no real issues. However, when I attempted to install the
> program (4.0) for my father's use on his Windows 10 laptop I ran into a
> couple of very frustrating issues.
>
> The first: Dad's 88. To ease the strain on his eyes he has a large
> external monitor hooked up to his laptop, and that external monitor is
> designated as his main monitor. However, when Gnucash was installed it
> would only open on the much smaller built-in monitor on the laptop. Yes,
> I can drag the screen across to the main monitor, but any and every
> action...reconciliation, import of transactions, even choosing an action
> from a drop-down menu...opens up on the small laptop screen. I haven't
> found any way to force these windows onto the main monitor. It makes the
> program virtually unusable.
>
> Another issue was the import of transactions. His credit union offers
> .QFX downloads, which import into Gnucash. However, the debits appear as
> credits and the credits appear as debits. I know how to resolve this
> problem with .CSV imports, but I've never had this issue importing .QFX
> and I'm not sure how to correct it.
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
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[GNC] Problems with a new installation

[Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user]

I've been using Gnucash under Windows 10 and Linux for a couple of years
now with no real issues. However, when I attempted to install the
program (4.0) for my father's use on his Windows 10 laptop I ran into a
couple of very frustrating issues.

The first: Dad's 88. To ease the strain on his eyes he has a large
external monitor hooked up to his laptop, and that external monitor is
designated as his main monitor. However, when Gnucash was installed it
would only open on the much smaller built-in monitor on the laptop. Yes,
I can drag the screen across to the main monitor, but any and every
action...reconciliation, import of transactions, even choosing an action
from a drop-down menu...opens up on the small laptop screen. I haven't
found any way to force these windows onto the main monitor. It makes the
program virtually unusable.

Another issue was the import of transactions. His credit union offers
.QFX downloads, which import into Gnucash. However, the debits appear as
credits and the credits appear as debits. I know how to resolve this
problem with .CSV imports, but I've never had this issue importing .QFX
and I'm not sure how to correct it.

Thanks for any assistance.

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Re: [GNC] 1) search list 2) gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org vs gnucash-user@gnucash.org

[Derek Atkins]

HI,

On Tue, September 1, 2020 8:57 am, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:
> 1 - Is there anyway to search the list archives... like maybe you would do
> an online forum?

Google search works pretty well, especially if you add
site:lists.gnucash.org to your search parameters.

We don't have a "forum", we have a mailing list that has been around for
more than 20 years.

> 2 - I've ended up with two emails addresses for GnuCash...
> gnucash-user@lists.gnucash.organdgnucash-u...@gnucash.org
> What is the difference?Will both get my email distributed to the list
> members?

Both work.

> Thanks for any help.

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[GNC] 1) search list 2) gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org vs gnucash-user@gnucash.org

[Fran_3 via gnucash-user]

1 - Is there anyway to search the list archives... like maybe you would do an 
online forum?
2 - I've ended up with two emails addresses for GnuCash...
gnucash-user@lists.gnucash.organdgnucash-u...@gnucash.org
What is the difference?Will both get my email distributed to the list members?
Thanks for any help.



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Re: [GNC] GTK CSS 4.0-4.1

[GTI .H]

Hi Adrien,

Thanks for the reply!

Sorry for the delay, I am very involved with my trading operations in the
financial markets ($$$). : )
I hope we can sync our efforts.


TESTS FOR WINDOWS OS:

Em sex., 14 de ago. de 2020 às 19:53, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> escreveu:

> Finally got a chance to fire up the Inspector.
>
> See inline...
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 8/3/20 9:59 AM, GTI .H wrote:
> > Em sex., 31 de jul. de 2020 às 22:36, Jimmy R via gnucash-user <
> > gnucash-user@gnucash.org> escreveu:
> >
> >> Sorry I had a residual gtk.css from gnc 3.91 in linux
> >> Above post is not true.
> >>
> >> I have a question though is thaer a setting in linux like in windows for
> >>   gtk-application-prefer-dark-theme=true to use the dark theme
> >>
> >> I found nothing in the WIKI
> >>
> >
> > See here https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/GTK3#Themes how to do this.
> >
> > Does anyone know which Selectors/Rules to modify the:
> >
> > Highlight Text
> > Register Summary Bar
> > Account Sheet (Headers, Total Bar, etc.)
> >
> > These do not work on Windows:
> >
> > .gnc-class-highlight
> Where does this happen, that is, what in the UI are you targeting with
> this?


Issue 1:

I think that this should affect the selected texts.
When we give 2 or 3 clicks on the text it is highlighted by two colors, the
text color and the background color.
We would really like to be able to change these colors.

Which Selectors/Rules can we change these colors with?


The closest I can see is a highlighted text field in a register
> like a memo. That gets a class:
>
> .gnc-class-register-foreground


I tested this:

.gnc-class-register-foreground {
  color:yellow;
}

and it works with the same effect as this:

/* The cell containing the cursor */
gnc-id-cursor entry {
  color:yellow
}


> #gnc-id-summarybar
> That still exists. It is a `box` node that is a child of another `box`
> node that has #gnc-id-register-page if that helps any.
>

This works well on the register page:

#gnc-id-summarybar {
  color: red;
}


Issue 2:

Why doesn't it work for the font size?

#gnc-id-summarybar {
  font-size: 18;
}

Which Selectors/Rules can we change the font size of the register page
summary bar with?


This affected the entire register page:

#gnc-id-register-page{
  color: red;
}


The 'Total Bar' on the Account page has:
> #gnc-id-account-summary-bar
>

I haven't found where it affects anything:

#gnc-id-account-summary-bar{
  color: red;
}


(which is a child of #gnc-id-account-page if you find that useful)
>
> > #account_tree
> #gnc-id-account-tree
>

I haven't found where it affects anything:

#gnc-id-account-page{
  color: red;
}

or

#account_tree{
  color: red;
}

But this works like a charm:

#gnc-id-account-tree{
  color: red;
}

And we were looking forward to this skill !


Under that is a `header` node which contains a `button` node for each
> possible column header. (visible or not) Each of those contains `box`
> node, which contains a `widget` and `image` nodes and the `widget`
> contains a `label` node. None of them have classes or IDs so you'll have
> to target the nodes directly if styling the parent doesn't work.
>
> Thus:
>
>  >header
> |
> >button
>   |
>   >box
> |
> >widget
> | |
> | >label
> >image
>
> The image node would be the arrow toggle used for sorting. (which is why
> each column header is a `button`)
>

Adrien, I am so pleased with the results that I forgive you for all the
excesses of text you made me read before !!!
hehehehehhe. . . !!!

To close the subject and to have a good styling CSS file again (I will
publish the final result here), we just need to solve these two issues:

Issue 1: Look above
Issue 2: Look above


Thanks Adrien!
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GTI
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