Re: [GNC] Categories list to setup New Account Hierarchy

[Frank H. Ellenberger]

Hi,

Am 18.05.21 um 06:42 schrieb Pankaj Jangid:
> Mukesh K  writes:
> 
>> Derak, Thanks.
>>
>> I have been using GNUCash for my personal finance for over 10 years. I will
>> refine it and then submit.  Please advise how to submit (donate) it.
>> I am building another one for small business in services segment. Once this
>> is matured , will submit it as well.
> 
> Mukesh,
> 
> I have recently started using ‘gnucash’ for my small business accounting
> in India. I have some challenges. Let us do it together and then submit
> here as per the guidance by the core-developers.
> 
> Regards
> Pankaj

for completeness: private users can in recent versions of GnuCash select
en_GB in the assistant and the the modules of the private template.

Before you start to develope a business template, you should do some
research:

Are there already rules you should implement issued by
1. the government: minitry of finances/tax authority …
2. other organisations like chamber of commerce, accountants asociation…

Then follow the instructions in
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Account_Hierarchy_Template

Good luck
Frank
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Re: [GNC] Categories list to setup New Account Hierarchy

[Pankaj Jangid]

Mukesh K  writes:

> Derak, Thanks.
>
> I have been using GNUCash for my personal finance for over 10 years. I will
> refine it and then submit.  Please advise how to submit (donate) it.
> I am building another one for small business in services segment. Once this
> is matured , will submit it as well.

Mukesh,

I have recently started using ‘gnucash’ for my small business accounting
in India. I have some challenges. Let us do it together and then submit
here as per the guidance by the core-developers.

Regards
Pankaj

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-cli --quotes get

[mike823]

Thank you.



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Re: [GNC] CSV matching produces duplicates?

[flywire]

Original post about turning off Bayesian matching prompts:

flywire wrote
> It's not that hard to match most transactions and add accounts using a
> spreadsheet or other tool leaving the rest for manual confirmation. It
> would be reasonable to have a setting so they could be imported straight
> in
> like any other software.

This is very specific about turning off something that seems illogical in a
csv import process. There are plenty of csv import questions and there may
well be good workarounds I'm not aware of.

*Many people* manipulate csv files and GnuCash already allows (requires ??)
pre-processed csv files. Files that can't be imported directly from the bank
because:

1. Mmm date format is not supported
2. DESCRIPTION IS UPPERCASE (from saving bits and COBOL) and Mixed Case Is
Preferred For Readability

also,

3. there are no accounts but a 20 line lookup table adds accounts to 80% of
transactions
4. GnuCash accounts can be entered into the lookup table to ensure a match
(and changed after import if required)

In a previous comment I noted, it is not my data so I don't know what
account to assign to many transactions. (To reduce processing I assign
unaccounted transactions to entertainment and change those that aren't.) I
imagine many people process transactions for others without knowing the full
details when they are imported.



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Re: [GNC] gnucash-cli --quotes get

[Robin Chattopadhyay]

Here's the file; I think the attachment should pass through, the input CSV
has no headers and comma separated values in order below:

Example:
Mnemonic, Price, Price Date (-mm-dd), Namespace, Currency Code
"94986H103",62.8194,2021-05-14,"401K","USD"

It works for me, in lines 10-12, you can adjust the file paths for your
input file and gnucash files.

As for creating the CSV file, I have different scripts for that using
Beautiful Soup or json to scrape either a website or API.

I'm open to suggestions on how it could be made better if anyone else wants
to take a look. Maybe I could even offer it up

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 6:33 PM mike823  wrote:

> I use a SQLite backend and I would love to test your script. Could you
> email
> it to me? Thanks.
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-cli --quotes get

[Jack Frillman via gnucash-user]

And I wrote a Python scripts and a BASH script that scrapes the prices 
off of the webpage and creates csv file.


On 5/17/21 5:28 PM, Robin Chattopadhyay wrote:

I have a Python script that I've created that takes in a CSV file and loads
the prices into Gnucash. I would be willing to share it; I know it works
with the SQLite backend, I haven't tested it with any other backend.

Robin

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 6:59 AM mike823  wrote:


I might do it. I am looking in gnucash/gnucash-cli.cpp and I see the code
bellow in Gnucash::GnucashCli::start . Is another developer already working
on the same functionality?



 if (m_quotes_cmd)
 {
 if (*m_quotes_cmd != "get")
 {
 std::cerr << bl::format (bl::translate("Unknown quotes command
'{1}'")) % *m_quotes_cmd << "\n\n"
 << *m_opt_desc_display.get();
 return 1;
 }

 if (!m_file_to_load || m_file_to_load->empty())
 {
 std::cerr << bl::translate("Missing data file parameter") <<
"\n\n"
   << *m_opt_desc_display.get();
 return 1;
 }
 else
 return Gnucash::add_quotes (m_file_to_load);
 }




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Re: [GNC] gnucash-cli --quotes get

[mike823]

I use a SQLite backend and I would love to test your script. Could you email
it to me? Thanks.



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Re: [GNC] CSV matching produces duplicates?

[David Cousens]

It is true in that particular case of yours that the internal account and the
name it is mapped to are the same. The difficulty is that the importer has to be
able to cope with situations where "Assets:Cheque" in the external record may
not necessarily be mapped onto the Assets:Cheque internal GnuCash account. I
have been in the situation where I have had multiple checqueing accounts with
the same bank for different purposes with in some cases nothing much to
distinguish them. There is no guarantee that the name an external provider gives
to an account will be the same name you may use in your GnuCash accounts and
that it will necessarily match although it usually does in most cases. The
importer has to cope as far as possible with all possible use cases not just
your particular case. 

That the account mapping procedure exists is testimony to the fact the use case
where an external account name which is the same as the internal GnuCash name
but is not the actual account the transaction should go to occurs sufficiently
often that the developers have taken the time and trouble to develop a procedure
to make this possible. It is a one off process if you complete the importing
process and then that external name is permanently mapped onto the appropriate
 internal account.  

Guncash is not written for one individual's use case but to meet the range of
use cases that a wide range of users do encounter are likely and do encounter.


David
On Mon, 2021-05-17 at 05:31 -0500, flywire wrote:
> Sample account that shouldn't need manual matching:
> 
> <
> http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/file/t374675/GnuCashCsvImportMatchingExample.png
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-cli --quotes get

[Robin Chattopadhyay]

I have a Python script that I've created that takes in a CSV file and loads
the prices into Gnucash. I would be willing to share it; I know it works
with the SQLite backend, I haven't tested it with any other backend.

Robin

On Mon, May 17, 2021 at 6:59 AM mike823  wrote:

> I might do it. I am looking in gnucash/gnucash-cli.cpp and I see the code
> bellow in Gnucash::GnucashCli::start . Is another developer already working
> on the same functionality?
>
>
>
> if (m_quotes_cmd)
> {
> if (*m_quotes_cmd != "get")
> {
> std::cerr << bl::format (bl::translate("Unknown quotes command
> '{1}'")) % *m_quotes_cmd << "\n\n"
> << *m_opt_desc_display.get();
> return 1;
> }
>
> if (!m_file_to_load || m_file_to_load->empty())
> {
> std::cerr << bl::translate("Missing data file parameter") <<
> "\n\n"
>   << *m_opt_desc_display.get();
> return 1;
> }
> else
> return Gnucash::add_quotes (m_file_to_load);
> }
>
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Re: [GNC] Online quotes for a mutual fund

[jacob]

On 2021-05-17 21:29, ja...@larsen.net wrote:
This suggests that the issue is with my setup and not the sources as 
such.


Some more googling finally found me this one: 
http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-Finance-Quote-sort-of-works-almost-td4724226.html


So it turns out that I need to install the unreleased master branch of 
Finance::Quote for this to work, since ftfunds have changed URL, and is 
broken in the latest v1.49 version. I cloned 
https://github.com/finance-quote/finance-quote.git, then copied 
lib/Finance/* to /usr/local/share/perl/5.26.1/Finance/ where my 
Finance::Quote is installed. I then additionally installed these from 
cpan: Web::Scraper, Spreadsheet::XLSX, HTML::TokeParser::Simple.


And now I am able to use the online quotes for all these funds. Thanks.

/Jacob
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Re: [GNC] Online quotes for a mutual fund

[jacob]

On 2021-05-17 02:53, Geoff wrote:

It looks like the Financial Times' Funds service will provide prices:


Thanks for checking this. I get this for the same command, but verbose:

$ gnc-fq-dump -v ftfunds SE0005993078
Finance::Quote fields Gnucash uses:
symbol: SE0005993078 <=== required
  date: ** missing **<=== recommended
  currency: ** missing **<=== required
  last: **missing**  <=\
   nav: **missing**  <=== one of these
 price: **missing**  <=/
  timezone:  <=== optional

** This stock quote cannot be used by GnuCash!


All fields returned by Finance::Quote for stock SE0005993078

stock   field  value
-   -  -
SE0005993078   errormsg: Error - failed to find a price
SE0005993078   last: **missing**
SE0005993078   name: *** UNKNOWN ***
SE0005993078nav: **missing**
SE0005993078  price: **missing**
SE0005993078 source: 
http://funds.ft.com/UK/Tearsheet/Summary?s=SE0005993078

SE0005993078success: 0
SE0005993078 symbol: SE0005993078


This suggests that the issue is with my setup and not the sources as 
such. Would you mind helping me out and send the verbose output from a 
working system?


I have run "sudo gnc-fq-update" before this, and it has ensured than I 
am running Finance::Quote v1.49. It did warn about my perl version being 
v5.26.1, which is the version from Ubuntu 18.04.


I am also running Gnucash 4.5 which I have compiled from sources. So I 
could use a couple of pointers for debugging this.


/Jacob
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Re: [GNC] Cash Flow Report has incorrect values

[Howard M. Fried]

I can't say that I understand the circle thing, but the P Report looks 
correct.  I also keep an Excel spread sheet just for Sales by year, and 
it's total for this year is slightly different from the P Report. 
I've probably made an error somewhere.


Many thanks,
Howard

On 5/17/21 12:49 PM, Derek Atkins wrote:

The "Cash Flow" report probably is not what you really want.
What that report does is allows you to draw a circle around a set of
accounts and it will summarize all the transactions that cross that
boundary.  Any transaction fully inside the circle or fully outside the
circle is ignored.  Most likely, *THAT* is why it's giving you 10X,
because -9X probably is fully inside the circle and not being included in
the counting.

Have you tried a P report?

-derek

On Mon, May 17, 2021 12:39 pm, Howard M. Fried wrote:

Hello,

My Cash Flow Report for 01/01/2021-12/31/2012 (or 01/01/2021-Today)
shows wildly incorrect values, specifically the "Money In" and "Accounts
Receivable" amounts.  For example, in the complete Account display,
Accounts Receivable shows X (which is correct). But in the Report, it
shows a value larger than 10X.

I've been using the same Account for several years and never noticed
such a problem.  I played with the Options, to no avail.

Any feedback greatly appreciated.
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Re: [GNC] Cash Flow Report has incorrect values

[Derek Atkins]

The "Cash Flow" report probably is not what you really want.
What that report does is allows you to draw a circle around a set of
accounts and it will summarize all the transactions that cross that
boundary.  Any transaction fully inside the circle or fully outside the
circle is ignored.  Most likely, *THAT* is why it's giving you 10X,
because -9X probably is fully inside the circle and not being included in
the counting.

Have you tried a P report?

-derek

On Mon, May 17, 2021 12:39 pm, Howard M. Fried wrote:
> Hello,
>
> My Cash Flow Report for 01/01/2021-12/31/2012 (or 01/01/2021-Today)
> shows wildly incorrect values, specifically the "Money In" and "Accounts
> Receivable" amounts.  For example, in the complete Account display,
> Accounts Receivable shows X (which is correct). But in the Report, it
> shows a value larger than 10X.
>
> I've been using the same Account for several years and never noticed
> such a problem.  I played with the Options, to no avail.
>
> Any feedback greatly appreciated.
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[GNC] Cash Flow Report has incorrect values

[Howard M. Fried]

Hello,

My Cash Flow Report for 01/01/2021-12/31/2012 (or 01/01/2021-Today) 
shows wildly incorrect values, specifically the "Money In" and "Accounts 
Receivable" amounts.  For example, in the complete Account display, 
Accounts Receivable shows X (which is correct). But in the Report, it 
shows a value larger than 10X.


I've been using the same Account for several years and never noticed 
such a problem.  I played with the Options, to no avail.


Any feedback greatly appreciated.
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Re: [GNC] gnucash-cli --quotes get

[John Ralls]

> On May 17, 2021, at 4:58 AM, mike823  wrote:
> 
> I might do it. I am looking in gnucash/gnucash-cli.cpp and I see the code
> bellow in Gnucash::GnucashCli::start . Is another developer already working
> on the same functionality?
> 
> 
> 
>if (m_quotes_cmd)
>{
>if (*m_quotes_cmd != "get")
>{
>std::cerr << bl::format (bl::translate("Unknown quotes command
> '{1}'")) % *m_quotes_cmd << "\n\n"
><< *m_opt_desc_display.get();
>return 1;
>}
> 
>if (!m_file_to_load || m_file_to_load->empty())
>{
>std::cerr << bl::translate("Missing data file parameter") <<
> "\n\n"
>  << *m_opt_desc_display.get();
>return 1;
>}
>else
>return Gnucash::add_quotes (m_file_to_load);
>}
> 

Not that I know of, but don't overload --get-quotes, write a new command named 
something like --import-quotes and have it call the same function that 
File>Import>Import Prices from a CSV File does.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] gnucash-cli --quotes get

[mike823]

I might do it. I am looking in gnucash/gnucash-cli.cpp and I see the code
bellow in Gnucash::GnucashCli::start . Is another developer already working
on the same functionality?



if (m_quotes_cmd)
{
if (*m_quotes_cmd != "get")
{
std::cerr << bl::format (bl::translate("Unknown quotes command
'{1}'")) % *m_quotes_cmd << "\n\n"
<< *m_opt_desc_display.get();
return 1;
}

if (!m_file_to_load || m_file_to_load->empty())
{
std::cerr << bl::translate("Missing data file parameter") <<
"\n\n"
  << *m_opt_desc_display.get();
return 1;
}
else
return Gnucash::add_quotes (m_file_to_load);
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Re: [GNC] CSV matching produces duplicates?

[David Carlson]

I can't read that file on my smartphone,  but what are we supposed to do
with it?  Ask our bankers to change their csv format to match it?

On Mon, May 17, 2021, 5:32 AM flywire  wrote:

> Sample account that shouldn't need manual matching:
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Re: [GNC] CSV matching produces duplicates?

[flywire]

Sample account that shouldn't need manual matching:


 



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