[GNC] how to import a csv of transactions?

2021-07-13 Thread flywire
I've had success importing csv files with
https://github.com/sdementen/piecash
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[GNC] Anyone having trouble with accelerator keys at 4.6?

2021-07-13 Thread lj
Some accelerator keys aren't working for me after upgrading from 4.5 to 4.6. 
The first one I noticed was in Price Database, Price Editor dialog. Alt+P used 
to jump to the Price entry but does nothing now. Alt+D works - goes to Date, 
but some others don't work. When I press Alt, I do see underlined characters, 
include the P in Price, but Alt+P doesn't work.


Using: Gnucash-4.6 self-compiled on Slackware Linux (64-bit); gtk-3.24.29

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Re: [GNC] How to account for insurance policy profit participation?

2021-07-13 Thread Derek Atkins
I suggest you contact a local accountant to help answer the question "how
to account for it".  Then once you have an answer, we can help you with
the question "how to account for it in GnuCash".

-derek

On Tue, July 13, 2021 11:41 am, rsbrux via gnucash-user wrote:
> We have an insurance policy with a guaranteed return at maturity as well
> as profit participation (Überschussbeteiligung) which is calculated
> annually.  Presumably both are some kind of investment income, but it is
> unclear to me how to account for them.  I suspect that the guaranteed
> return should be classified as interest, but should I record it in
> GnuCash annually or only at maturity?
>
> The profit participation is a complete mystery to me.  This is a share
> of the insurer's profits which accrues to the policies in years when the
> insurer achieves haigher returns on its (capital) investments than a
> predetermined threshold.  Is this a capital gain?  How should I record it?
>
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[GNC] How to account for insurance policy profit participation?

2021-07-13 Thread rsbrux via gnucash-user
We have an insurance policy with a guaranteed return at maturity as well 
as profit participation (Überschussbeteiligung) which is calculated 
annually.  Presumably both are some kind of investment income, but it is 
unclear to me how to account for them.  I suspect that the guaranteed 
return should be classified as interest, but should I record it in 
GnuCash annually or only at maturity?


The profit participation is a complete mystery to me.  This is a share 
of the insurer's profits which accrues to the policies in years when the 
insurer achieves haigher returns on its (capital) investments than a 
predetermined threshold.  Is this a capital gain?  How should I record it?


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Re: [GNC] how to import a csv of transactions?

2021-07-13 Thread Arman Schwarz
I ended up doing the merge manually with a text editor, by just copying the
account structure over and then the individual transactions.

On Tue, 13 Jul 2021 at 15:34, Arman Schwarz  wrote:

> Thanks for the replies. To clarify, I have 2 separate gnucash files, one
> for my everyday expenses and another for investments. In retrospect I
> regret this decision and wanted to merge them together.
>
> Steps I followed:
>
> 1) Go to the everyday accounts file and rename the top-level accounts by
> appending "Household" to them to make sure there are no clashes. So my top
> level accounts are "Household Equity", "Household Income", etc. I'll split
> these out again later but I just want to make sure I can do the merge
> without issues.
> 2) From the everyday gnucash file, go to file -> export -> Export Account
> Tree to CSV. I imported this tree in the investments file. I didn't list
> more details here as this all worked fine and the new account tree appears
> in the investments file.
> 3) Go back to the everyday accounts, select file -> export -> Export
> Transactions to CSV. Clicked through all options, just selecting defaults,
> "Select all" accounts.
> 4) Go to my investments accounts file, select file -> Import -> Import
> Transactions from CSV. Select the exported file. In the "Import Preview"
> section of the wizard I now see all columns selected as "None". I assume
> this means I need to load the correct profile, so I select the "Load and
> Save Settings" dropdown (which says "No Settings" by default) and select
> "Gnucash export format". When I do this Gnucash immediately hangs for about
> 5 seconds, then a popup appears with the title "Fatal error in GC" and text
> "Too many root sets". The only options is "OK". When I click it, gnucash
> force-closes.
>
> Things I tried:
> - exporting with quotes in case there are special characters in my
> transaction descriptions. This doesn't seem to have any effect.
> - I then searched for the "semicolon" character in my transaction
> descriptions and confirmed that this character wasn't used anywhere, so I
> exported my CSV with that as the separator. The result was... Weird. It
> didn't fail this time when I selected "Fatal error in GC", but instead it
> defaulted back to "comma" separation even though I'd selected semicolons.
> When I then manually switched it back to semicolons, it would retain column
> headings for the first 2 or 3 columns, but then revert back to "None" for
> the rest. I started manually selecting the columns, but when I got to
> "Price" it just crashed again with "Too many root sets".
> - Reducing the export to 100 elements by manually truncating the csv file
> "kind of" worked in that it didn't crash when I selected "Gnucash export
> format" but then as soon as I confirm the dialog it takes me to a screen
> where I have to manually map each account. This would be fine if I only had
> to do it once, but with around 1000 rows I'd have to manually map 30-40
> accounts around 10 times, which sounds tedious and error prone.
>
> Arman
>
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2021 at 23:50, David Carlson 
> wrote:
>
>> Arman,
>>
>> While CSV transaction imports are definitely supported in GnuCash, there
>> have been some bugs reported with the 'new' CSV importer.  There used to be
>> a fatal bug with the 'old' CSV importer that caused GnuCash to crash if the
>> incorrect date format was selected, and it may still be possible to see
>> that crash if you choose the wrong date format.  That is the reason that
>> there is a new process to save import settings including the base account
>> selection.  It is critical to do that import setup and save very carefully.
>>
>> Additionally, when getting familiar with the import process it is very
>> possible to get results that you do not like so you can expect to fine tune
>> settings until you like the results.  With some financial institutions you
>> may even want to preprocess the CSV file before importing it.  Thus, start
>> with a disposable copy of your data file and work with small import files.
>> This especially includes the process of training the import matcher in the
>> final step of the import.  At that stage, when you can describe in detail
>> what you want to do, users here will step up to help.
>>
>> Good luck.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 7:40 AM Geoff  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Arman
>>>
>>> Yes, this *definitely* works with v4.4 on Windows.  I haven't tried v4.6
>>> yet, but I'd be surprised if it was broken.
>>>
>>> See the fifth post in this thread which includes screenshots and a
>>> sample CSV file:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GNC-Tracking-cash-flows-with-balanced-transactions-td4721056.html
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Geoff
>>> =
>>>
>>> On 12/07/2021 10:01 pm, Arman Schwarz wrote:
>>> > I've tried on both 4.4 and 4.6 but it seems that importing csv
>>> transactions
>>> > is broken. Before I continue down this path, is csv importing an
>>> actually
>>> > supported feature or are the issues