Re: [GNC] Tax and Budget Reporting

[Alan Hopkins]

   Hi there
   I may not have fully understood but you just run a transaction report
   on your bank accounts (select you bank accounts in Options)?  That will
   give you deposits & withdrawals including tax.  If you want to know the
   totals for specific accounts (eg donations) you can just filter that
   report by using the account filter in the options box.
   I hope that helps.
   Cheers
   Hop

   On 6/10/21 23:14, GnuCash Charity User wrote:

Sorry if I wasn't clear, don't need to budget for taxes themselves, but
taxes included in line X. So if I budget $150, that's including tax paid,
hence want ability to report combined.

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 01:32, flywire [1] wrote:


Your reports show Expense:X and Asset:Tax Collected (but not reimbursed).
Why do you want to budget for tax if it is reimbursed with a net cost of
zero?


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Re: [GNC] Making the leap to latest

[Fred Bone]

On 06 October 2021 at 0:52, AC said:

> The main problem is that you can't have side-by-side installations on a
> Windows system (as has been pointed out to me).  

But that doesn't mean you can't *run* two different versions




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Re: [GNC] Cannot get current version from Flathub on Raspbian OS

[Colin]

Thanks for looking into this John.

If I read your message right, you’ve done everything you can - the issue is 
Flathub not updating their aarch64 build.

My use on the RasPi is not mission critical, though I was confused because the 
Flathub page for GnuCash (https://flathub.org/apps/details/org.gnucash.GnuCash) 
shows the correct version.

Thanks,
Colin

> On Oct 4, 2021, at 8:22 PM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
> 
> If you look at the top commit at 
> https://github.com/flathub/org.gnucash.GnuCash/ 
>   > you'll see a little green 
> check next to it. Hover on that check and it shows the three GitHub Actions 
> that drive flathub publishing. They're build-aarch64, build-x86_64, and 
> download-sources. All passed, meaning that there's an aarch64 build floating 
> around somewhere, but all of the steps past pushing to that repo are 
> automatic and somewhat opaque.
> 
> Regards,
> John Ralls

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[GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config

[boer...@t-online.de]

Hi,

I am experiencing the same issue coming from 4.6 and upgrading to 4.8 from an 
OpenSuse Repo.
One thing that I have in common with Klaus is that we both skipped 4.7

Indeed in Dconf I can find a new preference path /org/gnucash/GnuCash along 
with the old /org/gnucash.
However, gnucash 4.8 doesn't seem to take care of this path. Neither changes in 
my settings are reflected there nor changes done directly in Dconf (e.g. set 
time format to 24h) have any effect.
Moreover the default preference for the date format is ISO (2021-10-06), while 
gnucash uses the US format (10/06/2021) persistently.
So it appears to me that gnucash neather reads nor writes from/to the new 
preferences path in this situation.

@Klaus: Did you file that bug already? So it might be worth to add this 
information there.

Best
Thomas

Tue Oct 5 06:21:11 EDT 2021 Geert Janssens geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be
> Hi,
> 
> This likely means for some reason the preference migration hasn't run.
> 
> I'd like to figure out why if you're willing to work with me on debugging
> this. If so, please file a bug so we can track our research there.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> Op maandag 4 oktober 2021 23:06:13 CEST schreef Klaus Dahlke:
> > Hi,
> > I run gnucash 4.5 on ArchLinux and compile gnucash from the sources.
> > Yesterday I wanted to upgrade/install gnucash 4.8 by:
> > 
> > cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/klaus -G Ninja ..
> > ninja
> > ninja install
> > 
> > All went smoothly, but when starting gnucash, the warning/error came up:
> > no
> > book found (or similar), i.e., gnucash starts but no accounts, register
> > etc
> > are there. I then went to File -> Open' and opened the postgres database.
> > The data were read, but not displayed as expected: currency was USD, date
> > format was US,  no register color etc. I changed some of Preferences as
> > setting the register color scheme to gnucash default, currency to Er, date
> > format etc. But after exiting and restarting gnucash, none of the
> > preference settings where save. The warning message and teh look and feel
> > was exactly the same as right after compile.
> > 
> > I then switched back to gnucash 4.5 by compiling it from the sources by
> > the
> > above method and all works fine again.
> > 
> > Did I miss something in the installation procedure or is it worth filing a
> > bug?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Klaus
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Re: [GNC] Making the leap to latest

[D. via gnucash-user]

Of course, the Windows installer takes care of uninstalling other versions for 
you, so upgrading or downgrading is a simple matter of running the appropriate 
exe. And if you retain the different versions' download files,  running them is 
simply a matter of double clicking the proper one. 



 Original Message 
From: AC 
Sent: Wed Oct 06 03:52:18 EDT 2021
To: Peter West 
Cc: GnuCash users group , Derek Atkins 

Subject: Re: [GNC] Making the leap to latest

The main problem is that you can't have side-by-side installations on a
Windows system (as has been pointed out to me).  So upgrading the
software means uninstalling the old one, installing the new one and, if
anything goes wrong, reversing that entire process.  A side-by-side
install would let me run both to make sure no issues and then I can
uninstall the older one later once I tested the new one.

However, I think I have a workaround, I'll install a Linux guest VM (I
already have other VMs running on the same box) and do the updates
through the VM first reading in the data each time to save to the new
formats.  If all goes well I'll install the Windows version on the
machine and move the newly converted data files back to the machine from
the VM.

On 2021-10-03 20:27, Peter West wrote:
> I would disagree with “don’t upgrade unless entirely necessary." Open source 
> software (OSS) requires a different approach. Proprietary software offers 
> guarantees of the support lifetime of the software you purchase, paid for by 
> your money. The resources for development and support are very limited and 
> voluntary. The benefits of OSS come with some implied responsibilities.
> 
> Keep your software up-to-date.
>   Keep the installer for you current version of the software. When the 
> next version is released, secure the backup of your date and install the new 
> software. If something goes wrong, re-install the working version, restore 
> your date, and report your problem. We recently had two successive install 
> difficulties, for example. You don’t need to keep the dud installers, 
> obviously.
> 
> Keep an eye on the mailing list, and offer your suggestions to other users if 
> yo think you know how to fix their problems.
> 
> Peter
> —
> Peter West
> p...@ehealth.id.au
> “The one who hears you hears me, and the one who rejects you rejects me, and 
> the one who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
> 
> 
>> On 3 Oct 2021, at 8:11 am, AC  wrote:
>>
>> I agree don't upgrade if not absolutely necessary but I will likely be
>> replacing this computer in a few months so starting from a newer
>> installation is much more likely to happen in that case.
>>
>> So you're saying I should be able to do three stages of 2.6.last,
>> 3.x.last and then 4.x.last?
>>
>> Are there any big changes to basic functionality from 2.6 to 4.x?  I'm
>> making my way through the change logs but a lot of it is related to
>> various features I don't use (at least that which I've read thus far).
>>
>>
>> On 2021-10-02 15:06, Derek Atkins wrote:
 From 2.6.3 you will need to jump to 2.6.last, then 3.x, then 4.x
>>>
>>> At every version you should load your data file and then save it.
>>>
>>> While there is no requirement to upgrade, and "if it ain't broke, don't
>>> fix it" may apply, if you have a system crash and need to rebuild your
>>> system, it'll be easier to use recent versions.
>>>
>>> -derek
>>> Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
>>> On October 2, 2021 5:56:23 PM AC  wrote:
>>>
 Ok, I've been running along on 2.6.3 on Win 10.  No issues to date that
 I can see.

 I know there's been various changes throughout the rest of the 2.x and
 3.x series and we're now on 4.x which sparks some questions:


 Do I really need to update?  I only use the basis ledgers for standard
 banking accounts, credit cards, loans, mutual funds; scheduled
 transactions; and basic reports (typically just the standard transaction
 report when I need a list for taxes). I don't use online transactions,
 imports, or business features.  Can I assume that the basics still work
 the same way?

 If it's better for me to go ahead and update how painful will it be to
 update?

 I recall some suggestions previously about upgrading in increments and
 if that's the case how many increments am I going to need (hopefully not
 one for every point version)?

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Re: [GNC] Tax and Budget Reporting

[GnuCash Charity User]

Sorry if I wasn't clear, don't need to budget for taxes themselves, but
taxes included in line X. So if I budget $150, that's including tax paid,
hence want ability to report combined.

On Wed, 6 Oct 2021 at 01:32, flywire  wrote:

> Your reports show Expense:X and Asset:Tax Collected (but not reimbursed).
> Why do you want to budget for tax if it is reimbursed with a net cost of
> zero?
>
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Re: [GNC] Making the leap to latest

[AC]

The main problem is that you can't have side-by-side installations on a
Windows system (as has been pointed out to me).  So upgrading the
software means uninstalling the old one, installing the new one and, if
anything goes wrong, reversing that entire process.  A side-by-side
install would let me run both to make sure no issues and then I can
uninstall the older one later once I tested the new one.

However, I think I have a workaround, I'll install a Linux guest VM (I
already have other VMs running on the same box) and do the updates
through the VM first reading in the data each time to save to the new
formats.  If all goes well I'll install the Windows version on the
machine and move the newly converted data files back to the machine from
the VM.

On 2021-10-03 20:27, Peter West wrote:
> I would disagree with “don’t upgrade unless entirely necessary." Open source 
> software (OSS) requires a different approach. Proprietary software offers 
> guarantees of the support lifetime of the software you purchase, paid for by 
> your money. The resources for development and support are very limited and 
> voluntary. The benefits of OSS come with some implied responsibilities.
> 
> Keep your software up-to-date.
>   Keep the installer for you current version of the software. When the 
> next version is released, secure the backup of your date and install the new 
> software. If something goes wrong, re-install the working version, restore 
> your date, and report your problem. We recently had two successive install 
> difficulties, for example. You don’t need to keep the dud installers, 
> obviously.
> 
> Keep an eye on the mailing list, and offer your suggestions to other users if 
> yo think you know how to fix their problems.
> 
> Peter
> —
> Peter West
> p...@ehealth.id.au
> “The one who hears you hears me, and the one who rejects you rejects me, and 
> the one who rejects me rejects him who sent me.”
> 
> 
>> On 3 Oct 2021, at 8:11 am, AC  wrote:
>>
>> I agree don't upgrade if not absolutely necessary but I will likely be
>> replacing this computer in a few months so starting from a newer
>> installation is much more likely to happen in that case.
>>
>> So you're saying I should be able to do three stages of 2.6.last,
>> 3.x.last and then 4.x.last?
>>
>> Are there any big changes to basic functionality from 2.6 to 4.x?  I'm
>> making my way through the change logs but a lot of it is related to
>> various features I don't use (at least that which I've read thus far).
>>
>>
>> On 2021-10-02 15:06, Derek Atkins wrote:
 From 2.6.3 you will need to jump to 2.6.last, then 3.x, then 4.x
>>>
>>> At every version you should load your data file and then save it.
>>>
>>> While there is no requirement to upgrade, and "if it ain't broke, don't
>>> fix it" may apply, if you have a system crash and need to rebuild your
>>> system, it'll be easier to use recent versions.
>>>
>>> -derek
>>> Sent using my mobile device. Please excuse any typos.
>>> On October 2, 2021 5:56:23 PM AC  wrote:
>>>
 Ok, I've been running along on 2.6.3 on Win 10.  No issues to date that
 I can see.

 I know there's been various changes throughout the rest of the 2.x and
 3.x series and we're now on 4.x which sparks some questions:


 Do I really need to update?  I only use the basis ledgers for standard
 banking accounts, credit cards, loans, mutual funds; scheduled
 transactions; and basic reports (typically just the standard transaction
 report when I need a list for taxes). I don't use online transactions,
 imports, or business features.  Can I assume that the basics still work
 the same way?

 If it's better for me to go ahead and update how painful will it be to
 update?

 I recall some suggestions previously about upgrading in increments and
 if that's the case how many increments am I going to need (hopefully not
 one for every point version)?

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