Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.

2021-10-07 Thread David Carlson 
ARPANET?

On Thu, Oct 7, 2021 at 8:52 PM Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> On 10/7/21 7:39 PM, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
> > Usenet is still active?
> > I though it died years ago.
>
> MY ISP is Verizon. Originally, it had Usenet servers to supply all
> newsgroups. Then, at no decrease in cost, they supplied only the big-5
> newsgroup categories. Later, they discontinued ll newsgroups, still with
> no reduction in cost. So I signed up with an outfit that supplied
> Usenet, but they disappeared a few months ago. I noticed that Usenet, or
> at least the newsgroups I was signed up for, had less and less of
> interest anyway, so I have not looked for another Usenet supplier.
>
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Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.

2021-10-07 Thread Jean-David Beyer via gnucash-user 
On 10/7/21 7:39 PM, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
> Usenet is still active?
> I though it died years ago.

MY ISP is Verizon. Originally, it had Usenet servers to supply all
newsgroups. Then, at no decrease in cost, they supplied only the big-5
newsgroup categories. Later, they discontinued ll newsgroups, still with
no reduction in cost. So I signed up with an outfit that supplied
Usenet, but they disappeared a few months ago. I noticed that Usenet, or
at least the newsgroups I was signed up for, had less and less of
interest anyway, so I have not looked for another Usenet supplier.

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Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.

2021-10-07 Thread Jack Frillman via gnucash-user 




Of course there's Usenet, which doesn't require everyone to connect to


Usenet is still active?
I though it died years ago.

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Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.

2021-10-07 Thread Stan Brown 


> On 2021-10-07 11:10, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote:
> 
>> Can't GNUCash find an open source web app that does structured forums
>> in place of email full on copied replies upon replies in a long,
>> unstructured text string? 

You do know that you can select individual messages rather than
so-called daily digest,(*) right? Both formats are a pain IMHO, but
individual messages are slightly less of a pain since I can sort by date
within subject line.

(*) I initially subscribed to daily digest, but got three or four
digests most days, so I had the worst of both worlds.

On 2021-10-07 12:42, Jim DeLaHunt wrote:
> I predict that we could have a big discussion about the pros and cons of
> email lists and forums, and we would end up without a resolution; we
> would discover that no one option works for everyone.

Of course there's Usenet, which doesn't require everyone to connect to
the same site, automatically keeps related messages together, allows
anyone to mute threads that aren't interesting to that person, and
requires literally _zero_ work to administer. (In fairness, one does
need a Usenet client, though some email programs do a not-awful job of
as Usenet clients.) But Google set out to kill it 15 or 20 years ago,
and has nearly completely done so.

-- 
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
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https://OakRoadSystems.com
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Re: [GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.

2021-10-07 Thread Jim DeLaHunt 

On 2021-10-07 11:10, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user wrote:


Can't GNUCash find an open source web app that does structured forums in place 
of email full on copied replies upon replies in a long, unstructured text 
string?  I the 90's I used a MULTICS app called forum that… [did all kinds of 
wonderful things]….
There must be open source web apps out there to do this, in lieu of this email 
thing!  A daily reminder summary of new and replied topics would then suffice.


David:

I sympathise with your frustration. Just about every project I 
participate in needs to find a way to communicate. Nearly every project 
which tries email encounters the drawback you experience.


The MULTICS app "forum" sounds wonderful. However, next to its 
advantages, I'll bet it had a few drawbacks: 1. everyone had to connect 
to the same forum site to participate in the discussion, 2. someone had 
to be system administrator for the forum site, 3. the format might have 
worked well for you, but it did not work well for some other people.


Forums and email lists are two different approaches to meeting the same 
communications need. They have complementary strengths and weaknesses. 
Each approach works better for some people and worse for others. The 
corresponding advantages of an email list over a forum are: 1. the 
discussion comes to each person's email inbox, 2. it is less work to be 
system administrator for an email list than for a forum, 3. the format 
works well for some people who don't like the forum format.


That said, in the other projects I visit, the forum software called 
Discourse  currently seems the best-designed 
option widely available. One of its strengths is that you can sort of 
interact with it via email threads if you want to.


I predict that we could have a big discussion about the pros and cons of 
email lists and forums, and we would end up without a resolution; we 
would discover that no one option works for everyone.


Best regards,
 —Jim DeLaHunt


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[GNC] email seems so crude 30 years after MULTICS forums.

2021-10-07 Thread David G. Pickett via gnucash-user 
Can't GNUCash find an open source web app that does structured forums in place 
of email full on copied replies upon replies in a long, unstructured text 
string?  I the 90's I used a MULTICS app called forum that:
   
   - kept track of which discussions were new to me and 
   - for those that were old, my high water mark and 
   - if any new posts had occurred.  
   - I could go from topic to topic, 
   
   - in chronological order by age of topic,
   - read new posts only, 
   - one at a time, 
   - in chronological post order within the topic, and 
   - take myself off the topic 
   
   - quite efficiently.
There must be open source web apps out there to do this, in lieu of this email 
thing!  A daily reminder summary of new and replied topics would then suffice.
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Re: [GNC] QFX Import in 4.8

2021-10-07 Thread Jean Laroche 
No, there isn't such an option at this time. I agree that that's an 
annoying side effect of a change that was added for this version to fix 
an import bug.

I think I'll have to fix this.

Jean

On 10/7/21 10:11 AM, Dale Alspach wrote:

This is for the flatpak install of version 4.8 on linux mint.
I just downloaded transactions from TIAA and when I imported, I was
presented with a sequence of 16 screens (some containing only 1 line) that
I had to OK. Each screen had transactions for a single security. I much
prefer getting a single screen with multiple lines as in earlier versions.
Is there an option somewhere to revert to the earlier behavior?
Dale
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[GNC] QFX Import in 4.8

2021-10-07 Thread Dale Alspach 
This is for the flatpak install of version 4.8 on linux mint.
I just downloaded transactions from TIAA and when I imported, I was
presented with a sequence of 16 screens (some containing only 1 line) that
I had to OK. Each screen had transactions for a single security. I much
prefer getting a single screen with multiple lines as in earlier versions.
Is there an option somewhere to revert to the earlier behavior?
Dale
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config

2021-10-07 Thread Thomas Boerner 
The bug no. is 798330 
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798330

Am Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021, 11:17:03 CEST schrieb Thomas Boerner:
> Thanks Geert, done.
> Regards, Thomas
> 
> Am Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021, 09:29:53 CEST schrieb Geert Janssens:
> > Hi Thomas,
> > 
> > Klaus hasn't filed a bug yet. If you can, please do.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Geert
> > 
> > Op woensdag 6 oktober 2021 16:25:41 CEST schreef boer...@t-online.de:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I am experiencing the same issue coming from 4.6 and upgrading to 4.8 from
> > > an OpenSuse Repo. One thing that I have in common with Klaus is that we
> > > both skipped 4.7
> > > 
> > > Indeed in Dconf I can find a new preference path /org/gnucash/GnuCash 
> > > along
> > > with the old /org/gnucash. However, gnucash 4.8 doesn't seem to take care
> > > of this path. Neither changes in my settings are reflected there nor
> > > changes done directly in Dconf (e.g. set time format to 24h) have any
> > > effect. Moreover the default preference for the date format is ISO
> > > (2021-10-06), while gnucash uses the US format (10/06/2021) persistently.
> > > So it appears to me that gnucash neather reads nor writes from/to the new
> > > preferences path in this situation.
> > > 
> > > @Klaus: Did you file that bug already? So it might be worth to add this
> > > information there.
> > > 
> > > Best
> > > Thomas
> > > 
> > > Tue Oct 5 06:21:11 EDT 2021 Geert Janssens geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > This likely means for some reason the preference migration hasn't run.
> > > > 
> > > > I'd like to figure out why if you're willing to work with me on 
> > > > debugging
> > > > this. If so, please file a bug so we can track our research there.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Geert
> > > > 
> > > > Op maandag 4 oktober 2021 23:06:13 CEST schreef Klaus Dahlke:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I run gnucash 4.5 on ArchLinux and compile gnucash from the sources.
> > > > > Yesterday I wanted to upgrade/install gnucash 4.8 by:
> > > > > 
> > > > > cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/klaus -G Ninja ..
> > > > > ninja
> > > > > ninja install
> > > > > 
> > > > > All went smoothly, but when starting gnucash, the warning/error came 
> > > > > up:
> > > > > no
> > > > > book found (or similar), i.e., gnucash starts but no accounts, 
> > > > > register
> > > > > etc
> > > > > are there. I then went to File -> Open' and opened the postgres
> > > > > database.
> > > > > The data were read, but not displayed as expected: currency was USD,
> > > > > date
> > > > > format was US,  no register color etc. I changed some of Preferences 
> > > > > as
> > > > > setting the register color scheme to gnucash default, currency to Er,
> > > > > date
> > > > > format etc. But after exiting and restarting gnucash, none of the
> > > > > preference settings where save. The warning message and teh look and
> > > > > feel
> > > > > was exactly the same as right after compile.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I then switched back to gnucash 4.5 by compiling it from the sources 
> > > > > by
> > > > > the
> > > > > above method and all works fine again.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Did I miss something in the installation procedure or is it worth 
> > > > > filing
> > > > > a
> > > > > bug?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Klaus
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Re: [GNC] OFX Import with Investment Transactions

2021-10-07 Thread Kalpesh Patel 
I tested the other two files last night and the result is different in 4.8 
compared to 4.4 of gnucash. 

 

I need to narrow down for which account it did not import correctly and see if 
it is encountering the bug (id=798327) that was just fixed.

 

From: Jean L  
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2021 11:24 AM
To: Kalpesh Patel ; 'john' 
Cc: 'Robin Chattopadhyay' ; 'Gnucash Users' 

Subject: Re: [GNC] OFX Import with Investment Transactions

 

Thanks! That's good news!
J.

 

On 10/5/2021 7:25 AM, Kalpesh Patel wrote:

I loaded up 4.8 version of GnuCash on another computer last night and imported 
one of the file that is most complex that had failed to import properly on 4.5 
version of GnuCash. Good news is that where I was seeing 4.5 failing to import 
all transactions appears to be fixed in 4.8 and loaded all transactions 
properly. I imported same file in both, version 4.4 where it is known to work 
correctly, and in 4.8 and they both give the same end results after importing 
them into a clean new files. I will test out two more files which are not as 
complex as the one that is already tried one. Only case I am not able to test 
is the one with multiple accounts in the same ofx file where it is part of the 
same session. I will be testing multiple ofx files concatenated into a single 
file and import it in to see the end results. I’ll report back.

 

From: Roger Moore    
Sent: Sunday, October 03, 2021 11:50 PM
To: john   
Cc: Robin Chattopadhyay   ; 
Kalpesh Patel   ; Gnucash 
Users   
Subject: Re: [GNC] OFX Import with Investment Transactions

 

There was indeed a bug so I opened 
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798327 and created a PR with a simple 
fix.

I verified that on the file that Robin provided the import continues as 
expected for all 11 securities.

 

On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 2:21 PM john mailto:jra...@ceridwen.us> > wrote:

That sounds like https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798208 
, which is fixed in GnuCash 
4.8.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Oct 3, 2021, at 9:19 AM, Robin Chattopadhyay   > wrote:
> 
> Yes, I'm familiar with that issue as well as my spouse's 401K OFX has fee
> transactions where shares are sold to pay plan expenses, but those
> transactions appear only as cash withdrawals and the sale transactions do
> not get imported.
> 
> That one doesn't bother me as much because it's one transaction per month
> vs 9 every two weeks.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 3, 2021 at 11:04 AM Kalpesh Patel   > wrote:
> 
>> The issues that you are seeing I believe has to do with changes that OFX
>> introduced in libofx which has been included since 4.5 and above version of
>> GnuCash. FWIW, I am running on Windows 10 Pro desktop but that likely
>> doesn't matter when it comes to core functionality.
>> 
>> I also had problems where some of transactions would not get imported in
>> from an OFX file and these transactions I deduced from trial and error are
>> specifically if they are related to deposit and withdrawal of cash in Stock
>> or Mutual Fund account. I am not sure if this is the behavior on your end
>> or
>> not but it sounds like it. This might be because libofx author may have
>> changed philosophy and its implementation where cash in and out are not
>> considered investment transactions such as buy and sell of a stock, bond,
>> mutual fund, etc.
>> 
>> Because of that I have stayed at GnuCash 4.4 (specifically Build ID:
>> 4.4+(2020-12-28) for Windows) which I have known to properly import
>> brokerage created OFX files for import. I've reached out to the author of
>> libofx for understanding and I am still waiting to hear back from them.
>> 
>> It may be worth a shot to install that version and see if it imports OFX
>> correctly. If you have a blank file then it should ask for appropriate
>> input
>> via dialogue box such as creation of "securities", corresponding
>> "brokerage"
>> account, etc. You can then go back and edit those "security" and enable
>> download of prices using Finance::Quote Perl module with yahoo_jason as the
>> source for it if you want to automate it.
>> 
>> For FWIW, GnuCash 4.5 on windows used to crash when 'Actions' --> 'Check &
>> Repair' --> 'Check & Repair All' would be selected to run which I do now
>> and
>> then to make sure that my xml based file is in good shape (this is carry
>> over habit from Quicken as it was known to corrupt files).
>> 
>> This may not be the answer you are looking for but hope this helps a bit.
>> 
>> Kalpesh...
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Message: 2
>> Date: Sat, 2 Oct 2021 10:58:44 -0500
>> From: Robin Chattopadhyay >  >
>> To: Gnucash Users >  >
>> Subject: [GNC] OFX Import with Investment

Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config

2021-10-07 Thread Thomas Boerner 
Hi Geert,

can it be a file acces issue? According to the trace file Gnucash cannot access 
the new preferences path properly.

Regards, Thomas

Am Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021, 14:07:40 CEST schrieb Geert Janssens:
> Hi David,
> 
> Thanks for the feedback. It also works fine on my Fedora 34 box. And at this 
> point I don't see reason yet to believe the intermediate step via 4.7 is 
> required. The bug hunt will hopefully give more details.
> 
> As for the /org/gnucash/GnuCash path, that's a virtual path, not a filesystem 
> one. It's how preferences are organised hierarchically inside GSettings. 
> Every 
> application is supposed to generate the three-component "prefix" consisting 
> of 
> /org// and under that prefix all preferences for 
> that particular application can then be structured. You will find this 
> structure for example by opening dconf-editor on linux systems (provided 
> gnucash is installed in the default prefix /usr or /usr/local; if not, you'll 
> have to manipulate the XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable to include  prefix>/share in the search path).
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> Op donderdag 7 oktober 2021 11:50:46 CEST schreef davidcousen...@gmail.com:
> > Hi Geert,
> > 
> > For your info if it will help diagnose problems on other Linux systems. As
> > far as I cn tell GunCash 4.8 is reading the preferences when they exist on
> > Linux Mint 20.2. I up graded from 4.6 via a patched version of 4.7 and then
> > to 4.8 with a further patch suggested by John. Both 4.7 and 4.8 built from
> > scratch from the downloaded tarball. These still show up under
> > .local/share/gnucash/ for the books reports etc and .config/gnucash for the
> > gtk style sheets.  The file modifications times and dates indicate changes
> > (I deliberately changed a few setting exited and then restarted and then
> > changed them back). I am presuming the /org/gnucash/GnuCash translates to
> > these locations during installation as I cannot find any such directories
> > on my computer.
> > 
> > David
> > 
> > On Thu, 2021-10-07 at 09:29 +0200, Geert Janssens wrote:
> > > Hi Thomas,
> > > 
> > > Klaus hasn't filed a bug yet. If you can, please do.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Geert
> > > 
> > > Op woensdag 6 oktober 2021 16:25:41 CEST schreef boer...@t-online.de:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > I am experiencing the same issue coming from 4.6 and upgrading to 4.8
> > > > from
> > > > an OpenSuse Repo. One thing that I have in common with Klaus is that we
> > > > both skipped 4.7
> > > > 
> > > > Indeed in Dconf I can find a new preference path /org/gnucash/GnuCash
> > > > along
> > > > with the old /org/gnucash. However, gnucash 4.8 doesn't seem to take
> > > > care
> > > > of this path. Neither changes in my settings are reflected there nor
> > > > changes done directly in Dconf (e.g. set time format to 24h) have any
> > > > effect. Moreover the default preference for the date format is ISO
> > > > (2021-10-06), while gnucash uses the US format (10/06/2021)
> > > > persistently.
> > > > So it appears to me that gnucash neather reads nor writes from/to the
> > > > new
> > > > preferences path in this situation.
> > > > 
> > > > @Klaus: Did you file that bug already? So it might be worth to add this
> > > > information there.
> > > > 
> > > > Best
> > > > Thomas
> > > > 
> > > > Tue Oct 5 06:21:11 EDT 2021 Geert Janssens geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be
> > > > 
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > 
> > > > > This likely means for some reason the preference migration hasn't run.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'd like to figure out why if you're willing to work with me on
> > > > > debugging
> > > > > this. If so, please file a bug so we can track our research there.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > 
> > > > > Geert
> > > > > 
> > > > > Op maandag 4 oktober 2021 23:06:13 CEST schreef Klaus Dahlke:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > I run gnucash 4.5 on ArchLinux and compile gnucash from the sources.
> > > > > > Yesterday I wanted to upgrade/install gnucash 4.8 by:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/klaus -G Ninja ..
> > > > > > ninja
> > > > > > ninja install
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > All went smoothly, but when starting gnucash, the warning/error came
> > > > > > up:
> > > > > > no
> > > > > > book found (or similar), i.e., gnucash starts but no accounts,
> > > > > > register
> > > > > > etc
> > > > > > are there. I then went to File -> Open' and opened the postgres
> > > > > > database.
> > > > > > The data were read, but not displayed as expected: currency was USD,
> > > > > > date
> > > > > > format was US,  no register color etc. I changed some of Preferences
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > setting the register color scheme to gnucash default, currency to
> > > > > > Er,
> > > > > > date
> > > > > > format etc. But after exiting and restarting gnucash, none of the
> > > > > > preference settings where save. The warning message and teh look and
> > > > > > feel
> > > > > > was exactly the same as right after compile.

Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config

2021-10-07 Thread Geert Janssens 
Hi David,

Thanks for the feedback. It also works fine on my Fedora 34 box. And at this 
point I don't see reason yet to believe the intermediate step via 4.7 is 
required. The bug hunt will hopefully give more details.

As for the /org/gnucash/GnuCash path, that's a virtual path, not a filesystem 
one. It's how preferences are organised hierarchically inside GSettings. Every 
application is supposed to generate the three-component "prefix" consisting of 
/org// and under that prefix all preferences for 
that particular application can then be structured. You will find this 
structure for example by opening dconf-editor on linux systems (provided 
gnucash is installed in the default prefix /usr or /usr/local; if not, you'll 
have to manipulate the XDG_DATA_DIRS environment variable to include /share in the search path).

Regards,

Geert

Op donderdag 7 oktober 2021 11:50:46 CEST schreef davidcousen...@gmail.com:
> Hi Geert,
> 
> For your info if it will help diagnose problems on other Linux systems. As
> far as I cn tell GunCash 4.8 is reading the preferences when they exist on
> Linux Mint 20.2. I up graded from 4.6 via a patched version of 4.7 and then
> to 4.8 with a further patch suggested by John. Both 4.7 and 4.8 built from
> scratch from the downloaded tarball. These still show up under
> .local/share/gnucash/ for the books reports etc and .config/gnucash for the
> gtk style sheets.  The file modifications times and dates indicate changes
> (I deliberately changed a few setting exited and then restarted and then
> changed them back). I am presuming the /org/gnucash/GnuCash translates to
> these locations during installation as I cannot find any such directories
> on my computer.
> 
> David
> 
> On Thu, 2021-10-07 at 09:29 +0200, Geert Janssens wrote:
> > Hi Thomas,
> > 
> > Klaus hasn't filed a bug yet. If you can, please do.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Geert
> > 
> > Op woensdag 6 oktober 2021 16:25:41 CEST schreef boer...@t-online.de:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > I am experiencing the same issue coming from 4.6 and upgrading to 4.8
> > > from
> > > an OpenSuse Repo. One thing that I have in common with Klaus is that we
> > > both skipped 4.7
> > > 
> > > Indeed in Dconf I can find a new preference path /org/gnucash/GnuCash
> > > along
> > > with the old /org/gnucash. However, gnucash 4.8 doesn't seem to take
> > > care
> > > of this path. Neither changes in my settings are reflected there nor
> > > changes done directly in Dconf (e.g. set time format to 24h) have any
> > > effect. Moreover the default preference for the date format is ISO
> > > (2021-10-06), while gnucash uses the US format (10/06/2021)
> > > persistently.
> > > So it appears to me that gnucash neather reads nor writes from/to the
> > > new
> > > preferences path in this situation.
> > > 
> > > @Klaus: Did you file that bug already? So it might be worth to add this
> > > information there.
> > > 
> > > Best
> > > Thomas
> > > 
> > > Tue Oct 5 06:21:11 EDT 2021 Geert Janssens geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be
> > > 
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > This likely means for some reason the preference migration hasn't run.
> > > > 
> > > > I'd like to figure out why if you're willing to work with me on
> > > > debugging
> > > > this. If so, please file a bug so we can track our research there.
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > 
> > > > Geert
> > > > 
> > > > Op maandag 4 oktober 2021 23:06:13 CEST schreef Klaus Dahlke:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > I run gnucash 4.5 on ArchLinux and compile gnucash from the sources.
> > > > > Yesterday I wanted to upgrade/install gnucash 4.8 by:
> > > > > 
> > > > > cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/klaus -G Ninja ..
> > > > > ninja
> > > > > ninja install
> > > > > 
> > > > > All went smoothly, but when starting gnucash, the warning/error came
> > > > > up:
> > > > > no
> > > > > book found (or similar), i.e., gnucash starts but no accounts,
> > > > > register
> > > > > etc
> > > > > are there. I then went to File -> Open' and opened the postgres
> > > > > database.
> > > > > The data were read, but not displayed as expected: currency was USD,
> > > > > date
> > > > > format was US,  no register color etc. I changed some of Preferences
> > > > > as
> > > > > setting the register color scheme to gnucash default, currency to
> > > > > Er,
> > > > > date
> > > > > format etc. But after exiting and restarting gnucash, none of the
> > > > > preference settings where save. The warning message and teh look and
> > > > > feel
> > > > > was exactly the same as right after compile.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I then switched back to gnucash 4.5 by compiling it from the sources
> > > > > by
> > > > > the
> > > > > above method and all works fine again.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Did I miss something in the installation procedure or is it worth
> > > > > filing
> > > > > a
> > > > > bug?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Klaus
> > > > > ___
> > > > > gnucash-user mailing list
> > > > >

Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config

2021-10-07 Thread davidcousens49 
Hi Geert,

For your info if it will help diagnose problems on other Linux systems. As far
as I cn tell GunCash 4.8 is reading the preferences when they exist on Linux
Mint 20.2. I up graded from 4.6 via a patched version of 4.7 and then to 4.8
with a further patch suggested by John. Both 4.7 and 4.8 built from scratch from
the downloaded tarball. These still show up under .local/share/gnucash/ for the
books reports etc and .config/gnucash for the gtk style sheets.  The file
modifications times and dates indicate changes (I deliberately changed a few
setting exited and then restarted and then changed them back). I am presuming
the /org/gnucash/GnuCash translates to these locations during installation as I
cannot find any such directories on my computer.

David

On Thu, 2021-10-07 at 09:29 +0200, Geert Janssens wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> Klaus hasn't filed a bug yet. If you can, please do.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> Op woensdag 6 oktober 2021 16:25:41 CEST schreef boer...@t-online.de:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am experiencing the same issue coming from 4.6 and upgrading to 4.8 from
> > an OpenSuse Repo. One thing that I have in common with Klaus is that we
> > both skipped 4.7
> > 
> > Indeed in Dconf I can find a new preference path /org/gnucash/GnuCash along
> > with the old /org/gnucash. However, gnucash 4.8 doesn't seem to take care
> > of this path. Neither changes in my settings are reflected there nor
> > changes done directly in Dconf (e.g. set time format to 24h) have any
> > effect. Moreover the default preference for the date format is ISO
> > (2021-10-06), while gnucash uses the US format (10/06/2021) persistently.
> > So it appears to me that gnucash neather reads nor writes from/to the new
> > preferences path in this situation.
> > 
> > @Klaus: Did you file that bug already? So it might be worth to add this
> > information there.
> > 
> > Best
> > Thomas
> > 
> > Tue Oct 5 06:21:11 EDT 2021 Geert Janssens geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > This likely means for some reason the preference migration hasn't run.
> > > 
> > > I'd like to figure out why if you're willing to work with me on debugging
> > > this. If so, please file a bug so we can track our research there.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Geert
> > > 
> > > Op maandag 4 oktober 2021 23:06:13 CEST schreef Klaus Dahlke:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I run gnucash 4.5 on ArchLinux and compile gnucash from the sources.
> > > > Yesterday I wanted to upgrade/install gnucash 4.8 by:
> > > > 
> > > > cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/klaus -G Ninja ..
> > > > ninja
> > > > ninja install
> > > > 
> > > > All went smoothly, but when starting gnucash, the warning/error came up:
> > > > no
> > > > book found (or similar), i.e., gnucash starts but no accounts, register
> > > > etc
> > > > are there. I then went to File -> Open' and opened the postgres
> > > > database.
> > > > The data were read, but not displayed as expected: currency was USD,
> > > > date
> > > > format was US,  no register color etc. I changed some of Preferences as
> > > > setting the register color scheme to gnucash default, currency to Er,
> > > > date
> > > > format etc. But after exiting and restarting gnucash, none of the
> > > > preference settings where save. The warning message and teh look and
> > > > feel
> > > > was exactly the same as right after compile.
> > > > 
> > > > I then switched back to gnucash 4.5 by compiling it from the sources by
> > > > the
> > > > above method and all works fine again.
> > > > 
> > > > Did I miss something in the installation procedure or is it worth filing
> > > > a
> > > > bug?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Klaus
> > > > ___
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config

2021-10-07 Thread Thomas Boerner 
Thanks Geert, done.
Regards, Thomas

Am Donnerstag, 7. Oktober 2021, 09:29:53 CEST schrieb Geert Janssens:
> Hi Thomas,
> 
> Klaus hasn't filed a bug yet. If you can, please do.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Geert
> 
> Op woensdag 6 oktober 2021 16:25:41 CEST schreef boer...@t-online.de:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I am experiencing the same issue coming from 4.6 and upgrading to 4.8 from
> > an OpenSuse Repo. One thing that I have in common with Klaus is that we
> > both skipped 4.7
> > 
> > Indeed in Dconf I can find a new preference path /org/gnucash/GnuCash along
> > with the old /org/gnucash. However, gnucash 4.8 doesn't seem to take care
> > of this path. Neither changes in my settings are reflected there nor
> > changes done directly in Dconf (e.g. set time format to 24h) have any
> > effect. Moreover the default preference for the date format is ISO
> > (2021-10-06), while gnucash uses the US format (10/06/2021) persistently.
> > So it appears to me that gnucash neather reads nor writes from/to the new
> > preferences path in this situation.
> > 
> > @Klaus: Did you file that bug already? So it might be worth to add this
> > information there.
> > 
> > Best
> > Thomas
> > 
> > Tue Oct 5 06:21:11 EDT 2021 Geert Janssens geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be
> > 
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > This likely means for some reason the preference migration hasn't run.
> > > 
> > > I'd like to figure out why if you're willing to work with me on debugging
> > > this. If so, please file a bug so we can track our research there.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Geert
> > > 
> > > Op maandag 4 oktober 2021 23:06:13 CEST schreef Klaus Dahlke:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I run gnucash 4.5 on ArchLinux and compile gnucash from the sources.
> > > > Yesterday I wanted to upgrade/install gnucash 4.8 by:
> > > > 
> > > > cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/klaus -G Ninja ..
> > > > ninja
> > > > ninja install
> > > > 
> > > > All went smoothly, but when starting gnucash, the warning/error came up:
> > > > no
> > > > book found (or similar), i.e., gnucash starts but no accounts, register
> > > > etc
> > > > are there. I then went to File -> Open' and opened the postgres
> > > > database.
> > > > The data were read, but not displayed as expected: currency was USD,
> > > > date
> > > > format was US,  no register color etc. I changed some of Preferences as
> > > > setting the register color scheme to gnucash default, currency to Er,
> > > > date
> > > > format etc. But after exiting and restarting gnucash, none of the
> > > > preference settings where save. The warning message and teh look and
> > > > feel
> > > > was exactly the same as right after compile.
> > > > 
> > > > I then switched back to gnucash 4.5 by compiling it from the sources by
> > > > the
> > > > above method and all works fine again.
> > > > 
> > > > Did I miss something in the installation procedure or is it worth filing
> > > > a
> > > > bug?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Klaus
> > > > ___
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash 4.8: doesn't read or store config

2021-10-07 Thread Geert Janssens 
Hi Thomas,

Klaus hasn't filed a bug yet. If you can, please do.

Regards,

Geert

Op woensdag 6 oktober 2021 16:25:41 CEST schreef boer...@t-online.de:
> Hi,
> 
> I am experiencing the same issue coming from 4.6 and upgrading to 4.8 from
> an OpenSuse Repo. One thing that I have in common with Klaus is that we
> both skipped 4.7
> 
> Indeed in Dconf I can find a new preference path /org/gnucash/GnuCash along
> with the old /org/gnucash. However, gnucash 4.8 doesn't seem to take care
> of this path. Neither changes in my settings are reflected there nor
> changes done directly in Dconf (e.g. set time format to 24h) have any
> effect. Moreover the default preference for the date format is ISO
> (2021-10-06), while gnucash uses the US format (10/06/2021) persistently.
> So it appears to me that gnucash neather reads nor writes from/to the new
> preferences path in this situation.
> 
> @Klaus: Did you file that bug already? So it might be worth to add this
> information there.
> 
> Best
> Thomas
> 
> Tue Oct 5 06:21:11 EDT 2021 Geert Janssens geert.gnucash at kobaltwit.be
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This likely means for some reason the preference migration hasn't run.
> > 
> > I'd like to figure out why if you're willing to work with me on debugging
> > this. If so, please file a bug so we can track our research there.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Geert
> > 
> > Op maandag 4 oktober 2021 23:06:13 CEST schreef Klaus Dahlke:
> > > Hi,
> > > I run gnucash 4.5 on ArchLinux and compile gnucash from the sources.
> > > Yesterday I wanted to upgrade/install gnucash 4.8 by:
> > > 
> > > cmake -D CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/home/klaus -G Ninja ..
> > > ninja
> > > ninja install
> > > 
> > > All went smoothly, but when starting gnucash, the warning/error came up:
> > > no
> > > book found (or similar), i.e., gnucash starts but no accounts, register
> > > etc
> > > are there. I then went to File -> Open' and opened the postgres
> > > database.
> > > The data were read, but not displayed as expected: currency was USD,
> > > date
> > > format was US,  no register color etc. I changed some of Preferences as
> > > setting the register color scheme to gnucash default, currency to Er,
> > > date
> > > format etc. But after exiting and restarting gnucash, none of the
> > > preference settings where save. The warning message and teh look and
> > > feel
> > > was exactly the same as right after compile.
> > > 
> > > I then switched back to gnucash 4.5 by compiling it from the sources by
> > > the
> > > above method and all works fine again.
> > > 
> > > Did I miss something in the installation procedure or is it worth filing
> > > a
> > > bug?
> > > 
> > > Thanks
> > > Klaus
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