Re: [GNC] How to get debug to work (saying "uncle")

[flywire]

https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113772

Try https://kmymoney.org/

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 1:07 PM Greg Feneis wrote:

> Also, I'm not sure, but I don't think GnuCash has a facility for
> QuickBooks' or Quicken's categories
>
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Re: [GNC] How to get debug to work (saying "uncle")

[davidcousens49]

Also https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/import-qif.html


David

On Mon, 2022-01-17 at 16:12 -0500, Steve Conley wrote:
> I have been trying for 5 days now to chunk Quicken and start using gnucash.
> ANY CLUES will be sincerely appreciated.
> 
> The immediate problem I am trying to solve:
> Quicken export to qif of accounts/categories "seems" to complete - but
> nothing visible in gnucash.
> Quicken export to qif of tranactions seems to work also.  (large).
> 
> *But gnucash import of even a limited qif data to 2001, gets to the final
> import stage and gnucash dies with no error.  Sometime in late QIF import -
> before matching step.*
> 
> Naturally I try to get a debug log but the ONLY way I was able to make
> anything happen was
> 
> (I pulled the startup command from the .desktop entry):
> /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash
> --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug
> (and added --debug)
> 
> This does not put a trace/debug file anywhere I can find. Definitely not in
> /tmp.
> 
> I next tried specifying the logto option with /tmp/gnucash.trace or
> ~/gnucash.trace
> The trace goes neither place.
> 
> Running this:
> /usr/bin/flatpak run --command=gnucash --file-forwarding
> org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug gcashdata_3.gnucash
> 
> (I had to remove the branch and arch options that are in the desktop entry
> (which I copied from above) to even get his outputof warnings)
> 
> and then doing the qif import, results in about 40 lines of:
> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Negative content width -2147483648
>  while allocating gadget (node progress, owner GtkProgressBar)
> and
> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Drawing a gadget with negative
> dimensions. did you forget to allocate a size? (node progress, owner
> GtkProgressBar)
> 
> Whether this results in the actual crash, I have no idea.
> 
> OTHER BACKGROUND ON WAY TO HERE ...
> 
> Whenever gnucash is started, I get the Gtk messages as follows:
> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> 
> I tried all manner of suggestions of loading appmenu-gtk/2/3 and
> libcanberra-gtk/2/3 etcand reinstalling each. all said they were installed
> and all re-installs also completed without error.
> But did not get rid of the messge.
> 
> The machine is a core-i3 with 4GB of RAM and a large drive - so space
> should not be an issue.
> But it is an Inspiron 13 - set at 1080p resoultion.
> 
> Why GNCash ...
> I like what I see and have read the pdfs of documentation and played around
> with examples.
> (BTW, I am a 49 year - before retiring veteran of computer science with a
> PhD in Comp Sci and Electronics.  I have 6 Xubuntu Linux machines at  home
> in addition to a couple of hated Win10 achines.)
> 
> So I have 23 years of history in my Quicken data.
> I have run the Quicken Repair options, and they say all is well.
> 
> Quicken (latest) export to qxf crashes.So I can't try gnucash import of
> qxf.
> 
> First I am running for this machine Pop!_OS versus Xubuntu as it will be my
> wife's and she is better with GUI.
> AND I have ordered a System76 Pop!_OS laptop to replace my failing (screen)
> Dell Inspiron 15.
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Re: [GNC] How to get debug to work (saying "uncle")

[davidcousens49]

Steve,

You will have to map Quicken/Quickbooks categories onto accounts in Gnucash.
These will be either Income or Expense accounts for the majority of cases and
are created as subaccounts of the top level Asset, liability Equity, Income and
Expense placeholder accounts in GnuCash. Ideally you should try to create these
accounts before importing at least for major accounts. The import procedure
should try and create accounts as necessary where it is clear what account and
type is needed.

See https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-help/trans-import.html 
and
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Quicken_Migration#:~:text=From%20the%20Gnucash%20menu%20select,from%20your%20new%20account%20tree
 
for more info and suggestions.

It is generally better to import in small batches initially (month, quarter , 6
months) rather than a single import to sort out any problems. Once you have it
working OK you can increase the batch size.

David Cousens

On Mon, 2022-01-17 at 16:12 -0500, Steve Conley wrote:
> I have been trying for 5 days now to chunk Quicken and start using gnucash.
> ANY CLUES will be sincerely appreciated.
> 
> The immediate problem I am trying to solve:
> Quicken export to qif of accounts/categories "seems" to complete - but
> nothing visible in gnucash.
> Quicken export to qif of tranactions seems to work also.  (large).
> 
> *But gnucash import of even a limited qif data to 2001, gets to the final
> import stage and gnucash dies with no error.  Sometime in late QIF import -
> before matching step.*
> 
> Naturally I try to get a debug log but the ONLY way I was able to make
> anything happen was
> 
> (I pulled the startup command from the .desktop entry):
> /usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash
> --file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug
> (and added --debug)
> 
> This does not put a trace/debug file anywhere I can find. Definitely not in
> /tmp.
> 
> I next tried specifying the logto option with /tmp/gnucash.trace or
> ~/gnucash.trace
> The trace goes neither place.
> 
> Running this:
> /usr/bin/flatpak run --command=gnucash --file-forwarding
> org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug gcashdata_3.gnucash
> 
> (I had to remove the branch and arch options that are in the desktop entry
> (which I copied from above) to even get his outputof warnings)
> 
> and then doing the qif import, results in about 40 lines of:
> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Negative content width -2147483648
>  while allocating gadget (node progress, owner GtkProgressBar)
> and
> (gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Drawing a gadget with negative
> dimensions. did you forget to allocate a size? (node progress, owner
> GtkProgressBar)
> 
> Whether this results in the actual crash, I have no idea.
> 
> OTHER BACKGROUND ON WAY TO HERE ...
> 
> Whenever gnucash is started, I get the Gtk messages as follows:
> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
> 
> I tried all manner of suggestions of loading appmenu-gtk/2/3 and
> libcanberra-gtk/2/3 etcand reinstalling each. all said they were installed
> and all re-installs also completed without error.
> But did not get rid of the messge.
> 
> The machine is a core-i3 with 4GB of RAM and a large drive - so space
> should not be an issue.
> But it is an Inspiron 13 - set at 1080p resoultion.
> 
> Why GNCash ...
> I like what I see and have read the pdfs of documentation and played around
> with examples.
> (BTW, I am a 49 year - before retiring veteran of computer science with a
> PhD in Comp Sci and Electronics.  I have 6 Xubuntu Linux machines at  home
> in addition to a couple of hated Win10 achines.)
> 
> So I have 23 years of history in my Quicken data.
> I have run the Quicken Repair options, and they say all is well.
> 
> Quicken (latest) export to qxf crashes.So I can't try gnucash import of
> qxf.
> 
> First I am running for this machine Pop!_OS versus Xubuntu as it will be my
> wife's and she is better with GUI.
> AND I have ordered a System76 Pop!_OS laptop to replace my failing (screen)
> Dell Inspiron 15.
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Re: [GNC] How to get debug to work (saying "uncle")

[Greg Feneis]

Also, I'm not sure, but I don't think GnuCash has a facility for
QuickBooks' or Quicken's categories

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 15:04 flywire  wrote:

> Test one and a few records too.
>
> Alternatively, you could try csv format.
>
> On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:50 AM flywire wrote:
>
> > Try part of the qif file at a time.
> >
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Re: [GNC] Exiting GNUCash

[David Carlson]

It is not clear what you think happened.  It seems that more than one thing
did not transpire as you expected, since abandoning an edit, the presumed
cause of the shutdown without saving warning, and the attempt to open a
file already in use are different events.
Then how did you ascertain that, in fact, GnuCash did not save.  What,
exactly did it not save?  Did you allow sufficient time for GnuCash to
actually complete the entire shutdown?  Sometimes it takes a really long
time to shut down.  For example, when Linux decides to put some of
GnuCash's virtual RAM onto hard drive swap space, it may take over a minute
for the OS to recover and close the open file.



On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 6:04 PM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> I usually don't forget to save first so I don't know how long this has
> been happening.  Today I didn't save, so when the dialogue box came up, I
> selected "cancel".  GNUCash shutdown without saving and when I tried to
> open it thought there was another instance running, but I said open
> anyway.  I tested this again with the same result.  Then I tried it again,
> this time telling the system to save.  It shut down again, but it did not
> save!  I got the same message about the file already in use.
>
> Has anyone else encounter this error?  I am using Win11 and GNUCash 4.9.
>
>
> Thank You,
> Gyle McCollam
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> 609.680.2326 Mobile
>
> gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash via Flatpak-Issues-Solutions

[David H]

Hi Les,

No idea but I wouldn’t think so but it won’t hurt to try. I’ve been using
the flat pack version on Ubuntu for ages now and also recently on Mint 20.3
without seeing any of the problems you seem to be having. Do you have any
of these issues in other programs/apps ? Have you considered upgrading
Linux Mint to see if that fixes the problem ?

Cheers David H.

On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 6:05 am, Les  wrote:

> I have been using GC for many years and a few years back I started using
> Flatpak for installations and updates.  I am on Linux Mint 19.3 and GC 4.9.
>
> For the last year or so, I have had some annoying issues: unable to
> correct entries, unable to backspace within an account, and the latest,
> I cannot open an account by double-clicking.  Instead I have to click
> open account.
>
> My question is: if I completely uninstall GC via Flatpak and then
> re-install via Flatpak, will I accomplish anything? (The hope of course,
> is to eliminate the annoying issues.)
>
> Regards and thanks in advance,
>
> Les
>
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Re: [GNC] I don't understand this IRA distribution solution

[D. via gnucash-user]

Looking at that thread, I believe that the crucial points are these:

1) You need to isolate the tax deferred income as you go. So, for example, you 
have $2000 gross income on a paycheck, of which $250 is deposited into your 
IRA. The payroll transaction will need to have separate entries of $1750 Income 
and $250 deferred income, each going into their asset account. 

2) When you take a distribution, there will be two balanced entries-- one from 
the IRA asset account to your checking account, and a second one with the same 
amounts from the deferred income account to your taxed income account. So, 
$250 cr IRA, $250 dr Checking
$250 dr Taxable $250 cr deferred income

Note that I am not an accountant, and I may have it wrong (especially the whole 
dr/cr thing)

But that's how I understand that. 

HTH,
David T.



 Original Message 
From: Morris Beavers 
Sent: Mon Jan 17 17:16:07 EST 2022
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: [GNC] I don't understand this IRA distribution solution

I am an ex-quicken user, with no formal accounting training (only
gnucash manuals).

I hope to track money between my banking accounts, identify who is
receiving payments, and budget (income >= expense).

I started by using the wizard for common + investment accounts.

I didn’t see a problem until my investments generated an IRA distribution
with money to federal, state, and checking. I didn’t want to record the
federal, state deductions as an actual cash expense so I created an
“Investment Expense” root expense account to track the payments.

Now a new year has started and I’m trying to reuse my account tree but I
can not identify why the budget income is not reporting the sum of the
income sub-accounts.

Thinking my IRA distribution solution was the root of the problem I found
in gnucash-user “Accounting Treatment of Taxable IRA Distributions” thread.
There is a statement of a solution which I do not understand, “How did you
open your books? I bet your opening transaction had the balancing amount of
that IRA lumped into equity. But you should instead had it as a "deferred
income" under equity (a child). The equity total still correct, but now it
becomes easy for you to "undefer" that income as you take a distribution.
Understand? The distribution has TWO effects. One is to reduce the IRA
balance as it increases money in your checking account. The second is to
"undefer" that amount of income, reduce "deferred" and increase current
income (your regular income account).”

Would someone please explain this solution as accounts and transactions?

Thanks, very much,
Morris
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[GNC] Exiting GNUCash

[Gyle McCollam]

I usually don't forget to save first so I don't know how long this has been 
happening.  Today I didn't save, so when the dialogue box came up, I selected 
"cancel".  GNUCash shutdown without saving and when I tried to open it thought 
there was another instance running, but I said open anyway.  I tested this 
again with the same result.  Then I tried it again, this time telling the 
system to save.  It shut down again, but it did not save!  I got the same 
message about the file already in use.

Has anyone else encounter this error?  I am using Win11 and GNUCash 4.9.


Thank You,
Gyle McCollam

Gyle McCollam

609.680.2326 Mobile

gmccol...@live.com   email
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Re: [GNC] How to get debug to work (saying "uncle")

[flywire]

Test one and a few records too.

Alternatively, you could try csv format.

On Tue, Jan 18, 2022 at 9:50 AM flywire wrote:

> Try part of the qif file at a time.
>
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[GNC] How to get debug to work (saying "uncle")

[flywire]

Try part of the qif file at a time.
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[GNC] How to get debug to work (saying "uncle")

[Steve Conley]

I have been trying for 5 days now to chunk Quicken and start using gnucash.
ANY CLUES will be sincerely appreciated.

The immediate problem I am trying to solve:
Quicken export to qif of accounts/categories "seems" to complete - but
nothing visible in gnucash.
Quicken export to qif of tranactions seems to work also.  (large).

*But gnucash import of even a limited qif data to 2001, gets to the final
import stage and gnucash dies with no error.  Sometime in late QIF import -
before matching step.*

Naturally I try to get a debug log but the ONLY way I was able to make
anything happen was

(I pulled the startup command from the .desktop entry):
/usr/bin/flatpak run --branch=stable --arch=x86_64 --command=gnucash
--file-forwarding org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug
(and added --debug)

This does not put a trace/debug file anywhere I can find. Definitely not in
/tmp.

I next tried specifying the logto option with /tmp/gnucash.trace or
~/gnucash.trace
The trace goes neither place.

Running this:
/usr/bin/flatpak run --command=gnucash --file-forwarding
org.gnucash.GnuCash --debug gcashdata_3.gnucash

(I had to remove the branch and arch options that are in the desktop entry
(which I copied from above) to even get his outputof warnings)

and then doing the qif import, results in about 40 lines of:
(gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Negative content width -2147483648
 while allocating gadget (node progress, owner GtkProgressBar)
and
(gnucash:2): Gtk-WARNING **: timestamp: Drawing a gadget with negative
dimensions. did you forget to allocate a size? (node progress, owner
GtkProgressBar)

Whether this results in the actual crash, I have no idea.

OTHER BACKGROUND ON WAY TO HERE ...

Whenever gnucash is started, I get the Gtk messages as follows:
Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "appmenu-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
Gtk-Message: timestamp" Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

I tried all manner of suggestions of loading appmenu-gtk/2/3 and
libcanberra-gtk/2/3 etcand reinstalling each. all said they were installed
and all re-installs also completed without error.
But did not get rid of the messge.

The machine is a core-i3 with 4GB of RAM and a large drive - so space
should not be an issue.
But it is an Inspiron 13 - set at 1080p resoultion.

Why GNCash ...
I like what I see and have read the pdfs of documentation and played around
with examples.
(BTW, I am a 49 year - before retiring veteran of computer science with a
PhD in Comp Sci and Electronics.  I have 6 Xubuntu Linux machines at  home
in addition to a couple of hated Win10 achines.)

So I have 23 years of history in my Quicken data.
I have run the Quicken Repair options, and they say all is well.

Quicken (latest) export to qxf crashes.So I can't try gnucash import of
qxf.

First I am running for this machine Pop!_OS versus Xubuntu as it will be my
wife's and she is better with GUI.
AND I have ordered a System76 Pop!_OS laptop to replace my failing (screen)
Dell Inspiron 15.
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[GNC] I don't understand this IRA distribution solution

[Morris Beavers]

I am an ex-quicken user, with no formal accounting training (only
gnucash manuals).

I hope to track money between my banking accounts, identify who is
receiving payments, and budget (income >= expense).

I started by using the wizard for common + investment accounts.

I didn’t see a problem until my investments generated an IRA distribution
with money to federal, state, and checking. I didn’t want to record the
federal, state deductions as an actual cash expense so I created an
“Investment Expense” root expense account to track the payments.

Now a new year has started and I’m trying to reuse my account tree but I
can not identify why the budget income is not reporting the sum of the
income sub-accounts.

Thinking my IRA distribution solution was the root of the problem I found
in gnucash-user “Accounting Treatment of Taxable IRA Distributions” thread.
There is a statement of a solution which I do not understand, “How did you
open your books? I bet your opening transaction had the balancing amount of
that IRA lumped into equity. But you should instead had it as a "deferred
income" under equity (a child). The equity total still correct, but now it
becomes easy for you to "undefer" that income as you take a distribution.
Understand? The distribution has TWO effects. One is to reduce the IRA
balance as it increases money in your checking account. The second is to
"undefer" that amount of income, reduce "deferred" and increase current
income (your regular income account).”

Would someone please explain this solution as accounts and transactions?

Thanks, very much,
Morris
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Re: [GNC] couple questions

[davidcousens49]

Heide

As William Precott suggested you will have to upgrade in steps, first to V 3
then 4. There are sometimes changes in format of the data file, configuration
and user preference files at those major version boundaries. The next version
usually includes a run once procedure which will rearrange the files as
necessary.  

Pay attention to make sure any saved or custom reports you have created and use
are transferred when you upgrade at the major version boundaries and are
available within GnuCash.

I also concur with the strategy of grading GnuCash before upgrading the
computer. You will be dealing with any difficulties on a system you are more
familiar with.

Around the times the major version changes occurred you will also find posts in
the user mailing list archives dealing with any difficulties which occurred. The
Wiki has the following recommendation for upgrading between major versions.

"Backwards compatibility issues
Gnucash maintains the ability to read older data files between major releases,
as long as major releases are not skipped.[16] If a user wishes to access
historical data saved in old GnuCash files, they must install intermediate
versions of GnuCash. For example, upgrading from 2.2 to 4.1 may not be possible;
the user should upgrade from 2.2.9 to 2.4.15, then to 2.6.21, then 3.11, then
4.1. The other alternative is for users to export transactions files to a CSV
format[17] prior to upgrading GnuCash. Exporting of the account tree must be
done as a separate step."

The recommendation to go to 3.1 and 4.1 rather than 3.0 and 4.0 is because the
first minor release usually includes any major bugs (particularly show stoppers)
encountered in the initial release of the major version, which will sort out
many issues which you would find looking back through the mail archives. The run
once procedure is included in the minor versions.

If you have any problems come back to the mailing list.

David Cousens


On Mon, 2022-01-17 at 10:10 -0800, Heide Wang wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have couple questions. I started using Gnucash in 2015 to keep basic
> financial record of a trust account. I am using Gnucash 2.6.18 (I know it is
> old version), and my mac operation system is 10.14.6. My computer is about 9
> years old. Although everything is working fine now, but I know I need to
> upgrade my computer soon. When I up grade my computer, I will download the
> newest version of Gnucash. How can I transfer all the data to the newer
> version of Gnucash?? I would like to get a step by step instruction so I
> wouldn’t loss my old data.
> 
> My second question is there anyway to print the detail page of certain account
> ? For example, when I open my bank account page, it shows the list date of
> deposit or withdraw, description, amount and balance line by line,  Can I
> print it for my paper record? 
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> Heide
> 
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Re: [GNC] Lodging a cheque to an a/c - 'cash in wallet'??

[Michael or Penny Novack]

On 1/17/2022 12:19 PM, R. Victor Klassen wrote:

I generally use a two step process.

First the cheque goes into “undeposited cheques”.   And the appropriate income 
account is credited.  Then when I make a deposit I may be depositing cash and 
multiply cheques in a single transaction with the bank account as destination.

Sent from my iPhone


That's the technically proper way, especially if deposits not made right 
away. It's what I did for several of my organizations as their bank not 
necessarily my bank so a special trip. The money is "yours" when* you 
got the check, not when you bothered to deposit it. But ALSO ...


It makes the deposit of several checks easier. They were entered 
individually to "undeposited" so if a split involved, fairly simple. If 
you wait till creating the deposit transaction, that could be a very 
complex split.


Michael D Novack

* For legal purposes, when whoever sent the check made "constructive 
delivery" to you. For example, the time of the post mark (the envelope 
is your legal property even though you haven't received it yet)


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Re: [GNC] Lodging a cheque to an a/c - 'cash in wallet'??

[davidcousens49]

FinBar,

It depends what the cheque your wife received was for. If it was a reimbursement
of money she had previously paid out then it gets deducetedfrom the associated
expense account as it will have reduced the value of the expense to you.

If it was payment for services rendered then it is income

Asset:Bank   Dr xxx
Income   Cr xxx

Exactly how you treat it will depend upon how you treated the original
expenditure and what information it is you need to understand your finances. 
If you knew in advance what the reimbursement was going to be
you could have set up an Asset account for Reimbursements and when you recorded
the orignal expenditure you would have had a transaction of the form

Asset:Bank  Cr  xxx
Asset:Reimbursible  Dr  yyy
Expense Dr  zzz

where xxx=yyy+zzz. When you receive the cheque/check you would then record it as

Asset Bank  Dr  yyy
Asset:Reimbursable  Cr  yyy.


This would be the best procedure where you receive reimbursements regulerly for
example. For a one off then the following will work equally as well.
 
If you had not expected a reimbursement you would record the original expense in
full
Asset: Bank   Cr   xxx
Expense   Dr   xxx

and you would record the receipt of the cheque it as a credit to the expense
account ( or to a contra account named reimbursements to the expense account).
This is just a sub account of the expense account totalling into it to which you
record any reimbursements.

Asset:Bank   Dr  yyy
Expense  Cr  yyy

David Cousens

On Mon, 2022-01-17 at 16:51 +0100, Mahon Finbar wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> My wife got a cheque (or check if you insist) and lodged it in her bank 
> account.
> 
> I want to enter it as a deposit to her a/c. It only seems to accept 
> Assets:Current Assets:Cash in Wallet as a transfer entry without 
> entering two transactions - deposit and withdrawal
> 
> Since the amount will be credited to the a/c "cash in wallet" somehow 
> doesn't seem right?
> 
> Is there a 'proper' way to enter a cheque lodgement?
> 
> Finbar
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[GNC] Gnucash via Flatpak-Issues-Solutions

[Les]

I have been using GC for many years and a few years back I started using 
Flatpak for installations and updates.  I am on Linux Mint 19.3 and GC 4.9.


For the last year or so, I have had some annoying issues: unable to 
correct entries, unable to backspace within an account, and the latest, 
I cannot open an account by double-clicking.  Instead I have to click 
open account.


My question is: if I completely uninstall GC via Flatpak and then 
re-install via Flatpak, will I accomplish anything? (The hope of course, 
is to eliminate the annoying issues.)


Regards and thanks in advance,

Les

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Re: [GNC] couple questions

[William Prescott]

PS

The print instructions I gave will print to a file. That file can be opened 
with Preview and printed normally. You may be able to send it directly to a 
printer after setting the options. I don't have a printer so I didn't think 
about that. I just take things to a copy shop a block away when I want to print 
which is rare. That way I don't have to mess with printers and cartridges for 
the dozen times a year when I want a hard copy.

On 2022 Jan 17, at 01-17 13:01:55, William Prescott  
wrote:

Heide,

My suggestion is: Do NOT update Gnucash and change computers at the same time. 
Update Gnucash now, so that when you transfer stuff to your new computer you 
will not be making any changes to Gnucash at that time.

When you update Gnucash, do it one version at a time, i.e. first update to 
3.0-1, then to 4.0, then to 4.9. At each step make a backup of the Gnucash data 
file before updating and check that things look okay after updating. On a Mac 
operating system, I have had no problem keeping the old versions around while I 
try out newer ones. I have a Gnucash folder in Applications. It contains 
subfolders for Gnucash 2.6.1-1, 3.0-1, 3.10, 4.0, 4.1, 4.1.4, 4.2, 4.4, 4.5, 
4.6, 4.7, 4.8, 4.8-2, 4.9.The Gnucash.app is in each of the subfolders and I 
can just double click on any one of them to run it.

I don't think you need to go through all of the versions updating one by one, 
but certainly go through each of the major version, 3 and 4. Do not try to got 
straight from 2 to 4.

The datafile format changes from major version to major version. So don't go 
backwards. Backup your current datafile, open Gnucash 3.x, make sure it is 
okay, save changes, make a new backup, open Gnucash 4.x, make sure it is okay, 
save changes, etc. Keep track of which backup corresponds with a working copy 
and which version it worked with. 

You shouldn't have any trouble. As you can see I have gone through a lot of 
versions and never had any issues.

Regarding your second question:
Create a transaction report from the Reports menu
Click on Options at the top of the Transaction report window
Click on Accounts within the options dialog
Select the account you want
Click Apply
Click on General 
Select the time period you want
Click Apply
Click on Display
Select the Running Balances check box if you want those.
Click Apply
Click OK when you have all the options set
Then select Print Report from the File menu
The Print dialog box is not very Mac-like but it works fine
Select Print to File
Then click on the filename
That will open another dialog box that will let you choose where to put it.
If you click print without clicking on the filename, it will save it, but you 
might have trouble finding it.

Good luck,
Will


On 2022 Jan 17, at 01-17 12:10:31, Heide Wang  wrote:

Hello,

I have couple questions. I started using Gnucash in 2015 to keep basic 
financial record of a trust account. I am using Gnucash 2.6.18 (I know it is 
old version), and my mac operation system is 10.14.6. My computer is about 9 
years old. Although everything is working fine now, but I know I need to 
upgrade my computer soon. When I up grade my computer, I will download the 
newest version of Gnucash. How can I transfer all the data to the newer version 
of Gnucash?? I would like to get a step by step instruction so I wouldn’t loss 
my old data.

My second question is there anyway to print the detail page of certain account 
? For example, when I open my bank account page, it shows the list date of 
deposit or withdraw, description, amount and balance line by line,  Can I print 
it for my paper record? 

Thanks for the help.

Heide


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Re: [GNC] couple questions

[William Prescott]

Heide,

My suggestion is: Do NOT update Gnucash and change computers at the same time. 
Update Gnucash now, so that when you transfer stuff to your new computer you 
will not be making any changes to Gnucash at that time.

When you update Gnucash, do it one version at a time, i.e. first update to 
3.0-1, then to 4.0, then to 4.9. At each step make a backup of the Gnucash data 
file before updating and check that things look okay after updating. On a Mac 
operating system, I have had no problem keeping the old versions around while I 
try out newer ones. I have a Gnucash folder in Applications. It contains 
subfolders for Gnucash 2.6.1-1, 3.0-1, 3.10, 4.0, 4.1, 4.1.4, 4.2, 4.4, 4.5, 
4.6, 4.7, 4.8, 4.8-2, 4.9.The Gnucash.app is in each of the subfolders and I 
can just double click on any one of them to run it.

I don't think you need to go through all of the versions updating one by one, 
but certainly go through each of the major version, 3 and 4. Do not try to got 
straight from 2 to 4.

The datafile format changes from major version to major version. So don't go 
backwards. Backup your current datafile, open Gnucash 3.x, make sure it is 
okay, save changes, make a new backup, open Gnucash 4.x, make sure it is okay, 
save changes, etc. Keep track of which backup corresponds with a working copy 
and which version it worked with. 

You shouldn't have any trouble. As you can see I have gone through a lot of 
versions and never had any issues.

Regarding your second question:
Create a transaction report from the Reports menu
Click on Options at the top of the Transaction report window
Click on Accounts within the options dialog
Select the account you want
Click Apply
Click on General 
Select the time period you want
Click Apply
Click on Display
Select the Running Balances check box if you want those.
Click Apply
Click OK when you have all the options set
Then select Print Report from the File menu
The Print dialog box is not very Mac-like but it works fine
Select Print to File
Then click on the filename
That will open another dialog box that will let you choose where to put it.
If you click print without clicking on the filename, it will save it, but you 
might have trouble finding it.

Good luck,
Will


On 2022 Jan 17, at 01-17 12:10:31, Heide Wang  wrote:

Hello,

I have couple questions. I started using Gnucash in 2015 to keep basic 
financial record of a trust account. I am using Gnucash 2.6.18 (I know it is 
old version), and my mac operation system is 10.14.6. My computer is about 9 
years old. Although everything is working fine now, but I know I need to 
upgrade my computer soon. When I up grade my computer, I will download the 
newest version of Gnucash. How can I transfer all the data to the newer version 
of Gnucash?? I would like to get a step by step instruction so I wouldn’t loss 
my old data.

My second question is there anyway to print the detail page of certain account 
? For example, when I open my bank account page, it shows the list date of 
deposit or withdraw, description, amount and balance line by line,  Can I print 
it for my paper record? 

Thanks for the help.

Heide


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[GNC] couple questions

[Heide Wang]

Hello,

I have couple questions. I started using Gnucash in 2015 to keep basic 
financial record of a trust account. I am using Gnucash 2.6.18 (I know it is 
old version), and my mac operation system is 10.14.6. My computer is about 9 
years old. Although everything is working fine now, but I know I need to 
upgrade my computer soon. When I up grade my computer, I will download the 
newest version of Gnucash. How can I transfer all the data to the newer version 
of Gnucash?? I would like to get a step by step instruction so I wouldn’t loss 
my old data.

My second question is there anyway to print the detail page of certain account 
? For example, when I open my bank account page, it shows the list date of 
deposit or withdraw, description, amount and balance line by line,  Can I print 
it for my paper record? 

Thanks for the help.

Heide


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Re: [GNC] Lodging a cheque to an a/c - 'cash in wallet'??

[R. Victor Klassen]

I generally use a two step process.  

First the cheque goes into “undeposited cheques”.   And the appropriate income 
account is credited.  Then when I make a deposit I may be depositing cash and 
multiply cheques in a single transaction with the bank account as destination.  

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2022, at 12:10 PM, Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> On Mon, January 17, 2022 10:51 am, Mahon Finbar wrote:
>> Hi,
>> 
>> My wife got a cheque (or check if you insist) and lodged it in her bank
>> account.
>> 
>> I want to enter it as a deposit to her a/c. It only seems to accept
>> Assets:Current Assets:Cash in Wallet as a transfer entry without
>> entering two transactions - deposit and withdrawal
>> 
>> Since the amount will be credited to the a/c "cash in wallet" somehow
>> doesn't seem right?
>> 
>> Is there a 'proper' way to enter a cheque lodgement?
> 
> Just like any other deposit   You debit your checking/bank account for
> the amount of the check, and then credit the amount from wherever the
> funds are coming from, like Income:Salary, Income:Gifts Received, etc.
> 
> Why did she get a check?  What was it paying for?  That will help you
> decide where the credit the funds.
> 
>> Finbar
> 
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Re: [GNC] Lodging a cheque to an a/c - 'cash in wallet'??

[Derek Atkins]

Hi,

On Mon, January 17, 2022 10:51 am, Mahon Finbar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> My wife got a cheque (or check if you insist) and lodged it in her bank
> account.
>
> I want to enter it as a deposit to her a/c. It only seems to accept
> Assets:Current Assets:Cash in Wallet as a transfer entry without
> entering two transactions - deposit and withdrawal
>
> Since the amount will be credited to the a/c "cash in wallet" somehow
> doesn't seem right?
>
> Is there a 'proper' way to enter a cheque lodgement?

Just like any other deposit   You debit your checking/bank account for
the amount of the check, and then credit the amount from wherever the
funds are coming from, like Income:Salary, Income:Gifts Received, etc.

Why did she get a check?  What was it paying for?  That will help you
decide where the credit the funds.

> Finbar

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[GNC] Lodging a cheque to an a/c - 'cash in wallet'??

[Mahon Finbar]

Hi,

My wife got a cheque (or check if you insist) and lodged it in her bank 
account.


I want to enter it as a deposit to her a/c. It only seems to accept 
Assets:Current Assets:Cash in Wallet as a transfer entry without 
entering two transactions - deposit and withdrawal


Since the amount will be credited to the a/c "cash in wallet" somehow 
doesn't seem right?


Is there a 'proper' way to enter a cheque lodgement?

Finbar

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Re: [GNC] Post crash recovery log file suggestion

[David G. Pickett via gnucash-user]

John,

So, less code.  It seems odd that they wrote the code for the replay but do not 
automatically do it, making it a hidden feature.  Hopefully it is truncated or 
a new log started with every save, so duplicates are not a problem.

My saves are not slow, but the huge number of huge files slows my backup to my 
cloud.  GNUCash files are probably the second largest part of my storage after 
pictures!  We discussed since-save and incremental-save previously.

I think my original GNUCash used an RDBMS, and that was fine.  I am not sure 
how to turn that on, or what additional files I would need to back up!  
Currently, I can open my backup GNUCash files on my second PC, but I am not 
sure with RDBMS that I could still do that.
Best,
David


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From: john 
To: David G. Pickett 
Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
Sent: Sat, Jan 15, 2022 5:21 pm
Subject: Re: [GNC] Post crash recovery log file suggestion


> On Jan 15, 2022, at 11:10 AM, David G. Pickett via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> As 4.9 does abort ungracefully from time to time, I grow weary of reentering 
> my unsaved transactions.  I suggest that you post them to a new sort of log 
> file as I go, so I do not have to save megabytes of almost duplicate files so 
> often to avoid this.  Of course, if I leave the cursor on a modified line, I 
> still might lose that line, unless you can log that along with its state when 
> I change tabs.  (Maybe I should be warned when I change tabs that I left an 
> uncommitted transaction, not later when I save?)  When the app starts, it can 
> check the file and replay.  When there is a save and the normal files are 
> closed or flushed to disk, the new log file can be truncated.  It'd be very 
> much like an RDBMS log.  And perhaps a way to allow us to save less often?

We do, that's what the *.log files in the same directory as your data file are. 
Note, though, that they log only transactions and their splits. Nothing else, 
especially not the business stuff, is logged.


To re-enter them use File>Import>Replay GnuCash Log File.

You could enable auto-save in preferences, but when that runs it blocks the UI 
so it can be a bit tedious if you have a large file. You might also consider 
the SQLite3 backend that writes the database immediately when you complete a 
transaction, at the expense of not making a backup file and not being able to 
quit without saving if you decide you've made a mess of a session.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] Budget calculation possible bug

[Christopher Lam]

Please file a bug report on Bugzilla?

On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, 5:42 pm Peter Jackson,  wrote:

> I am using the Budget routine with Expenses and Income selected, set to
> range, manual periods, with 1 selected in both cases.
> In the January ie first column only for Income, the Total does not equal
> the sum of the components in both the Budget, and Budget report. In fact,
> if I enter zero in each income component, the total stays the same.
> Regards
> Peter
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Re: [GNC] access to Gnucash Nabble

[Greg Feneis]

It might be worth mentioning, I think the recommended location for the file
(...app data... and files and folders contained), is a hidden folder. IE It
may not appear in searches, or by navigating there by clicking icons in
Windows explorer. However, a user should be able to formulate the path and
type it into the address bar. Once you make it to the app data folder,
you're in.  Good luck 爛

Kind regards, Greg Feneis
(Pixel 3)


On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, 19:09 Liz Dodd  wrote:

> On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 16:28:40 -0500
> Ken Farley  wrote:
>
> > Argh. This makes it incredibly difficult to help someone when they're
> > looking at a directory of files and it shows three "setup" files,
> > because Windows is saving you the bother of knowing there is a
> > setup.bat, setup.exe, and setup.ini file. Unless you turn off that
> > particular option, you don't know which file is which.
>
> I'm not using Windows these days, but I recall a specific gotcha from
> Win7 where it cached a copy of a working config file, and you could
> change the config file as often or as much as you liked and absolutely
> nothing happened.
>
> I would get the OS to search the hard drives for "gtk-3.0.css* because
> there might be another copy stored somewhere.
>
> Liz
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Re: [GNC] eBay Managed Payment

[Sebastian Naumann]

Hi Dale,

I know with xero A2X works pretty well for either marketplace (AMZ / 
Shopify / eBay).


And I believe, instead of posting the statements directly to the 
actually bookkeeping software, you might be able to generate CSVs.


These are my two cents for it...hope this help.

Am 1/12/22 um 10:04 PM schrieb Dale Holden:

Helo Guys

I am new on here and just trying to move from Xero Accounts.
I was wondering if any members on here use GC for eBay Managed Payments?
Id so i would like to have a quick chat if possible

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[GNC] Budget calculation possible bug

[Peter Jackson]

I am using the Budget routine with Expenses and Income selected, set to
range, manual periods, with 1 selected in both cases.
In the January ie first column only for Income, the Total does not equal
the sum of the components in both the Budget, and Budget report. In fact,
if I enter zero in each income component, the total stays the same.
Regards
Peter
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