Re: [GNC] Calculation of Unrealized Losses

[David Carlson]

Bill,

If I recall correctly, one or more of the methods GnuCash uses to calculate
exchange rates for reports is technically not correctly defined , so it
obscures the  fact that it is not calculating the expected value.  That is
leading to strange results when, for example, one attempts to do a trial
balance.   I know very little about accounting so I cannot tell you details
about that.

Some of the developers can help with some of those issues.  Hopefully they
can at least tell you which calculation methods to avoid when you want
accurate results .

On Mon, May 2, 2022, 9:27 PM Bill Dika  wrote:

> Can anyone help me with this?
>
> Do I have to supply more/different information?
>
> I have been using gnucash personally for a couple of years now and would
> like to develop more confidence in the program.
>
> Thank you in advance for your help.
>
> Bill Dika
>
> On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 1:42 PM Bill Dika  wrote:
>
> > My default currency is Canadian dollars. I have some US dollar
> > accounts in my balance sheet.
> >
> > I have an unrealized loss in the equity section of my balance sheet at
> > July 31 2021 of $12.68 and cannot figure out how it was calculated. I
> > also have US dollar accounts expressed in Canadian dollars that I am
> > unable to determine how the translation from US dollars to Canadian
> > dollars occurs.
> >
> > For example I have a US dollar account of $353.75 for Tesla (see
> > us-dollar-accts-in-us-dollars-july-31-2021.png) that shows as $456.22
> > in Canadian dollars at July 31 2021 (see
> > us-dollar-accts-july-31-2021.png). This is an exchange rate of
> > 1.28966. I am unable to figure out how Gnucash arrives at that rate
> > (see us-dollar-rates-price-database.png). It is not the rate at July
> > 31 2021. It is not the average rate for all rates I have up to July 31
> > 2021 and it is not the average rate for all rates I have in the price
> > database.
> >
> > Also the $12.68 loss arises from only one change in the US dollar
> > accounts from June 30 2021 to July 31 2021. That is a $524.80 US
> > dollar addition to "Vanguard Intl Equity Total World Stock ETF" (see
> > change-in-us-dollar-acct-july-2021.png).
> >
> > Attached are images of the following:
> > equity-jun-30-2021.png = showing the equity section almost balanced
> > (.01 unrealized gain) (in Canadian dollars)
> > equity-july-31-2021.png = showing the $12.68 unrealized loss (in
> > Canadian dollars)
> > us-dollar-accts-in-us-dollars-jun-30-2021.png = balance sheet accounts
> > (in US dollars)
> > us-dollar-accts-jun-30-2021.png = balance sheet accounts (in Canadian
> > dollars)
> > us-dollar-accts-in-us-dollars-july-31-2021.png = balance sheet
> > accounts (in US dollars)
> > us-dollar-accts-july-31-2021.png = balance sheet accounts (in Canadian
> > dollars)
> > change-in-us-dollar-acct-july-2021.png = shows the only change in the
> > US dollar accounts ($524.80 USD) from June 30 to July 31 2021 (in US
> > dollars)
> > us-dollar-rates-price-database.png = all the US to Canadian exchange
> > rates in my database
> >
> > I am a Canadian CPA and feel quite confident about the accounting in
> > the gnucash file. I have reviewed the journal entries for the period
> > and they all balance. The only thing I can ascertain is that the
> > unrealized loss arises from the US dollar accounts but I cannot figure
> > out how gnucash is calculating it nor can I figure out how gnucash
> > translates US dollars to Canadian dollars for those accounts.
> >
> > I have searched the list but cannot find anything that helps me in my
> > calculation.
> >
> > I am on Arch linux using Gnucash 4.9.
> >
> > Any help would be much appreciated.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Bill Dika
> >
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Re: [GNC] Calculation of Unrealized Losses

[Bill Dika]

Can anyone help me with this?

Do I have to supply more/different information?

I have been using gnucash personally for a couple of years now and would
like to develop more confidence in the program.

Thank you in advance for your help.

Bill Dika

On Wed, Apr 27, 2022 at 1:42 PM Bill Dika  wrote:

> My default currency is Canadian dollars. I have some US dollar
> accounts in my balance sheet.
>
> I have an unrealized loss in the equity section of my balance sheet at
> July 31 2021 of $12.68 and cannot figure out how it was calculated. I
> also have US dollar accounts expressed in Canadian dollars that I am
> unable to determine how the translation from US dollars to Canadian
> dollars occurs.
>
> For example I have a US dollar account of $353.75 for Tesla (see
> us-dollar-accts-in-us-dollars-july-31-2021.png) that shows as $456.22
> in Canadian dollars at July 31 2021 (see
> us-dollar-accts-july-31-2021.png). This is an exchange rate of
> 1.28966. I am unable to figure out how Gnucash arrives at that rate
> (see us-dollar-rates-price-database.png). It is not the rate at July
> 31 2021. It is not the average rate for all rates I have up to July 31
> 2021 and it is not the average rate for all rates I have in the price
> database.
>
> Also the $12.68 loss arises from only one change in the US dollar
> accounts from June 30 2021 to July 31 2021. That is a $524.80 US
> dollar addition to "Vanguard Intl Equity Total World Stock ETF" (see
> change-in-us-dollar-acct-july-2021.png).
>
> Attached are images of the following:
> equity-jun-30-2021.png = showing the equity section almost balanced
> (.01 unrealized gain) (in Canadian dollars)
> equity-july-31-2021.png = showing the $12.68 unrealized loss (in
> Canadian dollars)
> us-dollar-accts-in-us-dollars-jun-30-2021.png = balance sheet accounts
> (in US dollars)
> us-dollar-accts-jun-30-2021.png = balance sheet accounts (in Canadian
> dollars)
> us-dollar-accts-in-us-dollars-july-31-2021.png = balance sheet
> accounts (in US dollars)
> us-dollar-accts-july-31-2021.png = balance sheet accounts (in Canadian
> dollars)
> change-in-us-dollar-acct-july-2021.png = shows the only change in the
> US dollar accounts ($524.80 USD) from June 30 to July 31 2021 (in US
> dollars)
> us-dollar-rates-price-database.png = all the US to Canadian exchange
> rates in my database
>
> I am a Canadian CPA and feel quite confident about the accounting in
> the gnucash file. I have reviewed the journal entries for the period
> and they all balance. The only thing I can ascertain is that the
> unrealized loss arises from the US dollar accounts but I cannot figure
> out how gnucash is calculating it nor can I figure out how gnucash
> translates US dollars to Canadian dollars for those accounts.
>
> I have searched the list but cannot find anything that helps me in my
> calculation.
>
> I am on Arch linux using Gnucash 4.9.
>
> Any help would be much appreciated.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Bill Dika
>
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Re: [GNC] Issues with Payables

[Adrien Monteleone]

How are you entering these payments? That should be done with the 
'Process Payments' feature where you select the document (bill/invoice) 
to be paid, enter a payment amount, and select the source/destination 
account.


For existing transactions you can right-click them and choose Edit 
Payment to assign it properly.


If you are importing the payment transactions you'll have to 'Edit 
Payment' for each one after import.


Regards,
Adrien

On 5/2/22 3:18 AM, Grant Alexander wrote:

I am having problems figuring out how to solve the following
How to I correct the error messages "Payment has no owner and Invalid
Txn Type?

Likewise with the Receivable Aging


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Re: [GNC] Help

[Jim DeLaHunt]

On 2022-04-30 21:22, Sandra Chick via gnucash-user wrote:


Hi,

I am totally new to Gnucash.  It looks like a great program, however I am 
unable to figure out how to configure it to be used with Australian GST 
accounting methods.  If someone could help me in this regard it would be very 
much appreciated.


Welcome to GnuCash, Sandra!

One of the things about GnuCash is that it forces you to work in the 
structure of double-entry bookkeeping. Other accounting programs seek to 
provide a simplified, but maybe less powerful, structure. Not GnuCash. 
Thus, good foundations for finding your way in GnuCash are:


1. The GnuCash Tutorial and Concepts Guide 
. Read it 
all the way through.


2. An introductory textbook on accounting and double-entry bookkeeping. 
In particular, the idea that each transaction is balanced, and the 
essence of the accounting equation.


3. An accountant who knows the rules for your jursidiction, and can give 
you advice on strategies and structures.


When you have those, then a good next step is the GnuCash wiki. Many 
little bits of advice and methods are captured here. In particular, have 
a look at the page, "Quickstart Australian BAS" 
.


When further questions arise — and they will — come on back here and see 
if we can help you more.


Best regards,
    —Jim DeLaHunt

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[GNC] Help

[Sandra Chick via gnucash-user]

Hi, 

I am totally new to Gnucash.  It looks like a great program, however I am 
unable to figure out how to configure it to be used with Australian GST 
accounting methods.  If someone could help me in this regard it would be very 
much appreciated.

Many Thanks

 Sandra
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Re: [GNC] Account Summary report - cannot use CTRL to select accounts one by one.

[David Carlson]

I just noticed that ctrl-click does not add or remove single accounts in
the account selection window for reports in release 3.8 on Linux but
shift-click will extend or release the range of a group selection.  Odd!

On Thu, Apr 28, 2022, 12:42 PM Tommy Trussell 
wrote:

> This may not be the same situation, but I noticed on my Ubuntu 21.10 system
> a recent update to the Yaru GTK3 theme that has made highlighted text go
> from "barely perceptible" to "strikingly obvious." Oh, and VERY orange. I
> MUCH prefer the obvious part, and the color I can live with.
>
> I just tried the Account Summary report in GnuCash (4.10+ flatpak) and
> although I could see the highlights on the account selector, they were a
> very pale grey. I issued the command:
>
>   $ flatpak update
>
> and sure enough, there were updates to three packages,
> including org.gtk.Gtk3theme.Yaru-dark, and org.gtk.Gtk3theme.Yaru .
>
> I updated the packages and now I see the harsh orange highlighting in the
> GnuCash account selector.
>
> SO if the account selector highlights are an almost imperceptible pale
> grey, then it may be due to a GTK3 theming issue, with updates available.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 28, 2022 at 10:08 AM Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
> > I can report that it works properly on MacOS BigSur. (4.10)
> >
> > Anyone using Ubuntu 22.04 or other distros with the same problem?
> >
> > Since this works on Win & Mac, I'd bet the issue is a dependency version
> > on Linux that has an issue.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> >
> > On 4/28/22 6:10 AM, Elmar wrote:
> > > Sadly no joy here - no matter how often I click, or with what extra key
> > > (ctrl, shift, alt), I cannot add one account, or else everything
> > > deselects and that one account gets highlighted.  It's a complex
> > > selection, and I just recently added another account and want to update
> > > the report, but I can't. - Elmar
> > >
> > > On 4/27/22 20:09, David H wrote:
> > >> Elmar,
> > >>
> > >> Works on ubuntu 21.10 although it seems you have to click once and
> > >> then click again to remove accounts from selection.  Does this help?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers David H.
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 28 Apr 2022 at 09:26, Elmar  wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Update - it works on my windows 10 installation though (dual boot
> > >> system), just not the linux one.  Ideas?
> > >>
> > >> On 4/27/2022 12:07 PM, Elmar wrote:
> > >> > Using GC Version: 4.10 Build ID: 4.10+(2022-03-26) (flatpak on
> > >> Linux
> > >> > Mint 20.3) - I am trying to select/de-select individual accounts
> > in
> > >> > the options of the included account summary report.  I can
> select
> > >> > sequential accounts with shift-click, but ctrl-click no longer
> > >> adds or
> > >> > removes the highlight from the selected set.  What happened?
> > >> This used
> > >> > to work. - elmar
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Re: [GNC] Tab in Reconcile window

[Tommy Trussell]

I have found that a recent update to the GTK3 Yaru theme GnuCash was using
on my Ubuntu system made a HUGE difference in being able to see the
highlighting. Not just in GnuCash but also in the PDF viewer.  (But NOT in
the file manager, for some reason.)

I presume the theme(s) might also have been updated on Fedora, though maybe
the theme updates are a lower priority than security issues and haven't
come through yet?

On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 12:50 PM Fred Tydeman  wrote:

> You are correct.  Thank you.
> I had expected that when I did a Tab, a line would be highlighted in the
> other window
> (instead of a hard to see box).  Doing the arrow down causes a line to be
> highlighted.
>
> On Sun, May 1, 2022 at 8:16 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:
>
> > Fred, I'm running Windows 11 so it may be different, but The tab & Shift
> > tab work.  However, when the reconciliation window opens you have a hrd
> > time seeing just where the selector is at.  Once the window opens, if you
> > use the down arrow the 1st item in the left window (funds in) is
> > highlighted in blue.  When you tab, there is an almost invisible dotted
> box
> > around the 1st item in the right window (funds out).  Again, if you down
> > arrow the item will be highlighted.  Same with shift-tab.  Hope it is the
> > same in your Linux version.
> >
> > Thank You,
> > *Gyle McCollam*
> >
> > Gyle McCollam
> >
> > 609.680.2326 Mobile
> >
> > gmccol...@live.comemail
> > --
> > *From:* gnucash-user 
> > on behalf of Fred Tydeman 
> > *Sent:* Sunday, May 1, 2022 12:35 AM
> > *To:* Gnucash Users 
> > *Subject:* [GNC] Tab in Reconcile window
> >
> > The Tip of the Day says that Tab and Shift-Tab should move between
> > deposits and withdrawals in the reconcile window.  For me, they appear
> > to be ignored -- I have to mouse click between windows/panes.
> > I am running Fedora Linux, Gnucash 4.10.
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Re: [GNC] GNC Fails to load Data File

[Mattia Rizzolo]

Bruce,

it was actually also documented in the metadata of the Debian package:

Suggests: libdbd-mysql, libdbd-pgsql, libdbd-sqlite3

in your case the last one.  That should have been visible in Synaptic.

On Mon, May 02, 2022 at 10:19:03AM -0600, Bruce Irving wrote:
> Thank you Derek.
> I'm not sure what I installed but a search for dbi dbd and I selected what
> looked possible.  Now it works and I am happy.
> Bruce
> 
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 7:16 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:
> 
> > Most likely you're using the SQL backend, and it sounds like you might not
> > have the right SQL Drivers installed on Debian.  If you're using SQLite,
> > then make sure you have the dbi dbd sqlite driver installed.
> >
> > -derek
> >
> > On Sat, April 30, 2022 8:56 am, Bruce Irving wrote:
> > > David H.:  Thank you.  I'll try that when I get back to the office
> > Monday.
> > > I had tried a Reinstall from Synaptic but that didn't help.  I've tried
> > > several times to compiling but always hit some snag that my inexperience
> > > couldn't overcome.  While flatpaks have improved, it still has still a
> > few
> > > annoying idiosyncrasies.  If this doesn't work, I'll probably return to
> > > flatpak.
> > >
> > > David Cousins:  The first time, I did navigate to the data file and
> > double
> > > clicked it as was my usual method of opening it.  When that didn't work,
> > I
> > > stated gnucash and used file/open.  Both ways gave the same error.
> > >
> > > I do appreciate your suggestions.
> > >
> > > Bruce
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 2:54 PM David H  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Bruce,
> > >>
> > >> Did you have a previous Debian install of gnucash - maybe try
> > >> uninstalling and re-installing the debian version - perhaps following
> > >> the
> > >> uninstall instructions at
> > >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Uninstall_Gnucash_Linux ...  You could
> > >> also
> > >> see if restarting solves anything.
> > >>
> > >> Why would you go back from probably the latest version available in
> > >> Flatpak
> > >> (4.10) to a version that's almost 18 months old (4.4) and 6 major
> > >> releases
> > >> ago with a lot of bug fixes and enhancements in between ?  Personally I
> > >> would have stuck with the Flatpak version which obviously worked.  If
> > >> the
> > >> Flatpak sandboxing is causing an issue for you perhaps you should
> > >> consider
> > >> compiling it yourself ?
> > >>
> > >> Cheers David H.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 at 04:52, Bruce Irving 
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I have been using Flatpak for GNC when I discovered that a version is
> > >> in
> > >> > the Debian which I installed. and removed the flatpak files.  when I
> > >> went
> > >> > to open my data file either by double clicking the data files or Open
> > >> from
> > >> > GNC: No suitable backend was found for ... (See attached)
> > >> > This is Version: 4.4
> > >> > Build ID: 4.4+(2020-12-28)
> > >> >
> > >> > The file did open in latest flatpak
> > >> >
> > >> > Bruce
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Re: [GNC] GNC Fails to load Data File

[Bruce Irving]

Thank you Derek.
I'm not sure what I installed but a search for dbi dbd and I selected what
looked possible.  Now it works and I am happy.
Bruce

On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 7:16 AM Derek Atkins  wrote:

> Most likely you're using the SQL backend, and it sounds like you might not
> have the right SQL Drivers installed on Debian.  If you're using SQLite,
> then make sure you have the dbi dbd sqlite driver installed.
>
> -derek
>
> On Sat, April 30, 2022 8:56 am, Bruce Irving wrote:
> > David H.:  Thank you.  I'll try that when I get back to the office
> Monday.
> > I had tried a Reinstall from Synaptic but that didn't help.  I've tried
> > several times to compiling but always hit some snag that my inexperience
> > couldn't overcome.  While flatpaks have improved, it still has still a
> few
> > annoying idiosyncrasies.  If this doesn't work, I'll probably return to
> > flatpak.
> >
> > David Cousins:  The first time, I did navigate to the data file and
> double
> > clicked it as was my usual method of opening it.  When that didn't work,
> I
> > stated gnucash and used file/open.  Both ways gave the same error.
> >
> > I do appreciate your suggestions.
> >
> > Bruce
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 29, 2022 at 2:54 PM David H  wrote:
> >
> >> Bruce,
> >>
> >> Did you have a previous Debian install of gnucash - maybe try
> >> uninstalling and re-installing the debian version - perhaps following
> >> the
> >> uninstall instructions at
> >> https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Uninstall_Gnucash_Linux ...  You could
> >> also
> >> see if restarting solves anything.
> >>
> >> Why would you go back from probably the latest version available in
> >> Flatpak
> >> (4.10) to a version that's almost 18 months old (4.4) and 6 major
> >> releases
> >> ago with a lot of bug fixes and enhancements in between ?  Personally I
> >> would have stuck with the Flatpak version which obviously worked.  If
> >> the
> >> Flatpak sandboxing is causing an issue for you perhaps you should
> >> consider
> >> compiling it yourself ?
> >>
> >> Cheers David H.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, 30 Apr 2022 at 04:52, Bruce Irving 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I have been using Flatpak for GNC when I discovered that a version is
> >> in
> >> > the Debian which I installed. and removed the flatpak files.  when I
> >> went
> >> > to open my data file either by double clicking the data files or Open
> >> from
> >> > GNC: No suitable backend was found for ... (See attached)
> >> > This is Version: 4.4
> >> > Build ID: 4.4+(2020-12-28)
> >> >
> >> > The file did open in latest flatpak
> >> >
> >> > Bruce
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[GNC] Issues with Payables

[Grant Alexander]

I am having problems figuring out how to solve the following
How to I correct the error messages "Payment has no owner and Invalid
Txn Type?

Likewise with the Receivable Aging
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