Re: [GNC] Transaction imports

2022-07-05 Thread davidcousens49
Christian,

The import data matching information is stored in the individual data file. Not
sure about import configuraion information. See the following for more info.
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/basics-migrate-settings.html
https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/basics-migrate-settings.html

David Cousens


On Tue, 2022-07-05 at 14:52 +0200, Christian Lynbech wrote:
> Where is the information related to transaction imports saved? I am on a Mac.
> 
> I have my books stored under revision control but when I wanted to do an
> CSV import on a another machine, I did not see the import I have defined
> when running Gnucash on my main computer. I am guessing/fearing that
> this also applies to the learned matching of transactions to accounts.
> 
> How would I replicate such information between computers?
> 
>/Christian
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Re: [GNC] Transaction imports

2022-07-05 Thread Christian Lynbech
Thanks.

   /Christian


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On Tue, Jul 05 2022, john wrote:

 On Jul 5, 2022, at 5:52 AM, Christian Lynbech  wrote:

 Where is the information related to transaction imports saved? I am on a Mac.

 I have my books stored under revision control but when I wanted to do an
 CSV import on a another machine, I did not see the import I have defined
 when running Gnucash on my main computer. I am guessing/fearing that
 this also applies to the learned matching of transactions to accounts.

 How would I replicate such information between computers?

The transaction matching tokens are kept in "slots" records belonging to the 
account into which you were
importing the transactions. This is part of the book (i.e. .gnucash) file so 
you need only copy or share it between
machines. Saved report and CSV configurations are kept in the DOT-GNUCASH 
folder, which on macOS is ~
/Library/Application Support/gnucash. See https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup 
for more about where GnuCash
keeps data and how to make thorough backups or share books between machines.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] How to do a couple of less common searches

2022-07-05 Thread Adrien Monteleone
It is also possible to enter a 'reference transaction' for documentation 
purposes if you don't enter a value. So you'll only have one split for 
the same account as the open register.


Find > Value > Has Debits or Credits > Equal to > 0.00 worked for me.

I suppose you could also add a criteria for Account > Matches no 
Accounts > (select all accounts)


At least for me, adding that criteria did not change my results.

Note, I did this Find from a particular register. Mileage may vary.

Regards,
Adrien

On 7/5/22 12:00 AM, David Carlson wrote:

TY Geoff,

Your answer to 1. works nicely.
That is a nice reference for 2.
As for 3, GnuCash now allows imports without a transfer account if the
value is zero, which I don't like, so I try to catch them on the way in,
but I may miss some.



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Re: [GNC] Terminology for Non-profits

2022-07-05 Thread Adrien Monteleone

Did you try changing the name of the Equity account to 'Net Assets'?

Regards,
Adrien

On 7/4/22 6:33 PM, Paul Kroitor wrote:

Most of the entities we use GnuCash for are non-profits, and here (at least)
non-profits don't have "Equity". They have "Net Assets", which is the same
thing but doesn't imply there are owners behind the internal value to the
operation.

  


The upshot is that every report we produce that shows Equity must be printed
to a file, massaged to replace Equity with Net Assets, and printed again.

  


This is a longshot, but is there any way to have all the reports tweaked to
do this once and for all? Ideally, something in the Book options (ie
Properties menu) as not all the sets of books here are non-profits.



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Re: [GNC] Terminology for Non-profits

2022-07-05 Thread Michael or Penny Novack
As somebody who has done the books for several non-profits, I don't 
think Paul was talking about the report title,. but instead the "column 
titles" for the Balance Sheet of a non-profit.


But Paul, I have seen other things used for that header title (besides 
"net assets"). You need to keep in mind that non-profits often have two 
kinds of liabilities, the ordinary sort, and "donor restricted funds" 
(and other sorts of restricted funds)


I don't really understand your problem with "exporting and then editing" 
because in my experience going to want to do that anyway. The SAME 
report (in the logical sense) will often be wanted for presentation in 
different formats, different levels of detail, etc. That's easiest to do 
by exporting the "raw" report from gnucash and then from that producing 
the final product(s).


Thus take the "Statement of Revenues and Expenses (title for what you 
for profit folks call  "profit and loss"). As treasurer I would need to 
know levels of detail down to things like how much paid each person as 
"compensation" << they might also have received mileage reimbursement >> 
so knowing if over $600 and I'll need to do a 1099-MISC for that person. 
The Board might just want to see how much each intern paid in total, and 
the annual report for members just the total paid to all of them. So 
doing the annual, I would run in gnucash with all the gory detail (for 
me) and then edit one version for the Board and one to give out to 
membership at annual meeting.Events are similar, since as treasurer you 
want the "printing and postage" component of the expense separate (line 
item on 990/990EZ) but the board wants to see all expenses of an event 
as a total.


When you use a full feature editor to put the reports into final form 
you can do all sorts of things (annotate, pretty print, add organization 
logo and fixed text, etc.)


Michael D Novack




On 7/5/2022 10:40 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

On 2022-07-04 16:33, Paul Kroitor wrote:

Most of the entities we use GnuCash for are non-profits, and here (at least)
non-profits don't have "Equity". They have "Net Assets", which is the same
thing but doesn't imply there are owners behind the internal value to the
operation.

The upshot is that every report we produce that shows Equity must be printed
to a file, massaged to replace Equity with Net Assets, and printed again.

This is a longshot, but is there any way to have all the reports tweaked to
do this once and for all? Ideally, something in the Book options (ie
Properties menu) as not all the sets of books here are non-profits.

1. Bring up your Balance Sheet report.
2. Click Options (or Edit » Report Options).
3. Select the General tab.
4. Change Report Title to Net Assets. This is the one that appears in
the report.
5. Change Report name to anything you wish, though Net Assets is
probably easiest.
6. Look at all the tabs and change any other options you wish.
7. Click OK.
8. Click Save Report Configuration. A window will open showing the
Report name from step 5. Click Close to save this report configuration.

In future, click Reports » Saved Report Configurations and then click
the green dot to the right of your Net Assets report.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Transaction imports

2022-07-05 Thread john



> On Jul 5, 2022, at 5:52 AM, Christian Lynbech  wrote:
> 
> Where is the information related to transaction imports saved? I am on a Mac.
> 
> I have my books stored under revision control but when I wanted to do an
> CSV import on a another machine, I did not see the import I have defined
> when running Gnucash on my main computer. I am guessing/fearing that
> this also applies to the learned matching of transactions to accounts.
> 
> How would I replicate such information between computers?

The transaction matching tokens are kept in "slots" records belonging to the 
account into which you were importing the transactions. This is part of the 
book (i.e. .gnucash) file so you need only copy or share it between machines. 
Saved report and CSV configurations are kept in the DOT-GNUCASH folder, which 
on macOS is ~/Library/Application Support/gnucash. See 
https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Backup for more about where GnuCash keeps data 
and how to make thorough backups or share books between machines.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: [GNC] [GNC-dev] Questions about Import Map Data

2022-07-05 Thread john



> On Jul 4, 2022, at 11:07 PM, Lincoln A Baxter  wrote:
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> It's been a very long time since I asked a question on this list serve,
> and a very long time since I last did a "cleanup" of my GC file (with
> perl scripts back then).  
> 
> I started keeping my accounting data in GC back in March of 2005.  Now
> I'm looking to reorganize my chart of expense accounts (again) to
> simplify things... when I do that, I'll want to remove the obsolete
> Bayes data (again).
> 
> I have a general idea of how the Bayesian import mapper works... Years
> ago I wrote some perl scripts to prune it out of the uncompressed XML
> file, so I could start it over.  But, I'm now looking at the  Tools ->
> Import Map Editor which I will (belatedly say) is a huge improvement
> over mucking about with the xml slot data -- which now looks to be
> simplified), especially if all one wants to do, is zero it out.  But,
> this has lead me to some questions:
> 
> Most of the Bayes data is space tokenized transaction description data.
> I get that part.  My understanding is that it is scores in this data
> that the matcher uses to map transactions to a balancing account.   But
> I see data, that could not of come from transaction descriptions.  Why
> are days of the week (Monday, Tuesday, etc)  in the Bayes data?  Where
> does this data come from? How does this help the transaction mapper?
> 
> It looks like the Non-Bayesian data consist of a full (non-tokenized)
> transaction descriptions... at least a few of them (nowhere near all of
> them... not even close).  Given how few I've got (and how old they
> appear to be), I don't under stand why this data is here.  It is almost
> like this was an early attempt to create transaction matching data,
> that might have existed since before the bayesian matcher "matured."
> So:
> 
> Why does gnucash have these records (and how did they get created)? 
> Are these records used in transaction mapping? (anymore)... or does
> this display exist simply for the purpose of allowing one to nuke them?


The day of the week of the transaction posted date is one of the tokens, as are 
the "words" of the description and of each split's memo. The logic is coded in 
TransactionGetTokens, 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/blob/e9df8d41d2fc838046bc02aed0b05bde53ca9dcd/gnucash/import-export/import-backend.c#L442
 and isn't significantly changed from the original contribution in GnuCash 
1.9.1, see 
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commit/b2ccbf62cf04adddbf3464875c6521582b353964.

You're correct that the non-Bayesian matching is just the transaction 
description. You might have those in your book because at some point you 
disabled Bayes matching in Preferences, but more likely you imported a QIF file 
or a CSV file before Geert re-wrote the CSV importer for GnuCash 3.0. The QIF 
importer doesn't support Bayesian matching so if you import a QIF file those 
match records are what the importer will use.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] Terminology for Non-profits

2022-07-05 Thread Stan Brown

On 2022-07-04 16:33, Paul Kroitor wrote:
> Most of the entities we use GnuCash for are non-profits, and here (at least)
> non-profits don't have "Equity". They have "Net Assets", which is the same
> thing but doesn't imply there are owners behind the internal value to the
> operation.
> 
> The upshot is that every report we produce that shows Equity must be printed
> to a file, massaged to replace Equity with Net Assets, and printed again. 
> 
> This is a longshot, but is there any way to have all the reports tweaked to
> do this once and for all? Ideally, something in the Book options (ie
> Properties menu) as not all the sets of books here are non-profits.

1. Bring up your Balance Sheet report.
2. Click Options (or Edit » Report Options).
3. Select the General tab.
4. Change Report Title to Net Assets. This is the one that appears in
the report.
5. Change Report name to anything you wish, though Net Assets is
probably easiest.
6. Look at all the tabs and change any other options you wish.
7. Click OK.
8. Click Save Report Configuration. A window will open showing the
Report name from step 5. Click Close to save this report configuration.

In future, click Reports » Saved Report Configurations and then click
the green dot to the right of your Net Assets report.

Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
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Re: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11

2022-07-05 Thread Adrien Monteleone

No, not limited to securities accounts.

There might be more than one cause, but it also happens for any account 
with a notes content that spans more than one line.


There's already a working bug report on it.

Regards,
Adrien

On 7/2/22 7:18 AM, John Layman wrote:

Note that double spacing occurs only on accounts related to securities,
which at the rightmost end of the line include the Display Symbol from the
Security Editor.  I found that editing the Display Symbol for affected lines
corrected the spacing.  It would appear that hidden characters in that field
cause double spacing.



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Re: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11

2022-07-05 Thread Kalpesh Patel
While I concur that it is showing only accounts related to securities, I am
doubtful that it has to do with security symbol. My right most column is
'Total (Period)' in which it does display symbol in accounts, and those
symbols are the same ones that are used to download quotes using  yahoo_json
source. I went as far as removing 'Display Symbol' field but the uneven line
spacing remained. And it is also not consistent in that I have uneven
spacing in accounts for which I download OFX file format for transactions or
the one that is manually maintained. 

Next trial I am going to do is remove the dark theme to see if it makes any
difference.


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Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2022 08:18:20 -0400
From: "John Layman" 
To: ,"'Gnucash Users'" 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11
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Note that double spacing occurs only on accounts related to securities,
which at the rightmost end of the line include the Display Symbol from the
Security Editor.  I found that editing the Display Symbol for affected lines
corrected the spacing.  It would appear that hidden characters in that field
cause double spacing.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user 
On Behalf Of dull...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2022 8:00 PM
To: 'Gnucash Users' 
Subject: [GNC] Uneven line spacing in Accounts list since 4.11

I think since 4.11 (am using Windows 11 and a dark theme), I notice very odd
random line spacing in Account list window (the default window when I open
Gnucash)

 

I see the lines for each sub-accounts are not evenly distributed - spacing
seems completely random (some have space above and below, others do not)

 

I have attached a partial screenshot showing this uneven spacing for the
subaccounts  (if the mailing list supports attachments?)

 

Regards,

Bill

 

 




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[GNC] Transaction imports

2022-07-05 Thread Christian Lynbech
Where is the information related to transaction imports saved? I am on a Mac.

I have my books stored under revision control but when I wanted to do an
CSV import on a another machine, I did not see the import I have defined
when running Gnucash on my main computer. I am guessing/fearing that
this also applies to the learned matching of transactions to accounts.

How would I replicate such information between computers?

   /Christian
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