Re: [GNC] Mutual Fund Dividend After Sale
I think it is 6 to 1 that it is ok to put a dividend payout in a security account without buying or selling any shares if you want to do it that way. On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 7:00 PM John Layman wrote: > I disagree that there is no reason for a post-close dividend to affect the > account of the investment. Otherwise, the dividend is not attributed to > the > source and isn't reflected in its return. > > -Original Message- > From: gnucash-user > On Behalf Of Fred Bone > Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 4:54 AM > To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org > Subject: Re: [GNC] Mutual Fund Dividend After Sale > > On 06 September 2022 at 14:56, Jack Frillman said: > > [...] > > The stock issues it's dividends at the end of each quarter. The stock > > was sold before the end of the quarter and the dividend was issued > > once the new quarter was entered. > > Regards, > John Ralls > > > > So there is no reason for it to affect the stock account, and specifically > to affect the balance of the stock account. So what's the problem? > > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > -- David Carlson ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Mutual Fund Dividend After Sale
I disagree that there is no reason for a post-close dividend to affect the account of the investment. Otherwise, the dividend is not attributed to the source and isn't reflected in its return. -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of Fred Bone Sent: Wednesday, September 7, 2022 4:54 AM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Mutual Fund Dividend After Sale On 06 September 2022 at 14:56, Jack Frillman said: [...] > The stock issues it's dividends at the end of each quarter. The stock > was sold before the end of the quarter and the dividend was issued > once the new quarter was entered. > > Regards, > John Ralls > > So there is no reason for it to affect the stock account, and specifically to affect the balance of the stock account. So what's the problem? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Using aqbanking with Bank of the West?
Good afternoon again, On Wed, Sep 7, 2022 at 12:57 PM Glenn Serre wrote: > > Good afternoon, > > Anyone have any luck using aqbanking with Bank of the West? > I tried the usual gnucash online banking setup and got a gnucash > stopped responding message with wait or force quit. > I tried ofclient but got authentication failed: timed out. > After I call customer support to make sure that my ofx access really > was enabled I plan to try quicken so I can harvest the connection log. > I have had modest success with the python ofxclient program in that I can download transactions from a specified account. I have no luck yet with getting the account list via gnucash/aqsetup. The Bank of the West ofx info is something like this: url: https://ofx.bankofthewest.com/process.ofx fid: 15130 app_id: QWIN app_version: 2700 ofx version: 103 but when I try to get the account list in the aqbanking setup, I get this back: 16:23:52 Sending request... 16:23:52 Using GnuTLS default ciphers. 16:23:52 TLS: SSL-Ciphers negotiated: TLS1.3:ECDHE-RSA-AES-256-GCM:AEAD 16:23:52 Waiting for response... 16:23:52 Parsing response... 16:23:52 Status for signon request: General error (Code 2000, severity "ERROR") Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note: Servers should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code 2000 should be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not available.) 16:23:52 Status for account info request: General error (Code 2000, severity "ERROR") Error other than those specified by the remaining error codes. (Note: Servers should provide a more specific error whenever possible. Error code 2000 should be reserved for cases in which a more specific code is not available.) 16:23:52 Operation finished, you can now close this window. More updates when I am (hopefully) successful. -- Glenn S. > Any hints would be appreciated. > > Thanks! > -- Glenn S. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Problems upgrading to 4.8a
/org/gnucash/GnuCash/general/prefs-version Use default value is set, Current value = Default value, Default = 0 If it matters, /org/gnucash/general/prefs-version Use default value is not set, Current value = 308 On 9/7/22 11:59, Geert Janssens wrote: Hi Phil, Op woensdag 7 september 2022 18:50:16 CEST schreef Phil Wolff: > > "Backup files" are autogenerated by gnucash and - as the name suggests - > > contain backups of your accounting data. They are generated in the same > > directory as your "Data file" and have as file name > > > > ..gnucash > > Don't see any of these You may have disabled backup file generation. > > "Saved reports" is a bit of an outlier. It is a single file that contains > > all "Saved report configurations" you have created in gnucash. For > > historical reasons this file is shared by all your "Data files". It is > > found in GNC_DATA_HOME and is called saved-reports- > > 3 files; -2.8, > -2.8~ and -2.8-backup suffixes. If the 2.8 is the GNC version, that means > that my recollection of seeing "1.something" in Synaptic is faulty. > 2.8 is the compatibility version and actually refers to gnucash 3.x (a small historical hiccup). > A few final remarks: > > * You never mentioned this, but normally gnucash would pop up a message when > it has attempted this migration. Did you actually get this message ? > > No. If the migration occurred during the Ubuntu 20.04 -> 22.04 upgrade, I > would not have seen it go by in the torrent generated by the upgrader. If > it showed such a message the first time I ran gnucash after the upgrade, I > missed seeing it. > It should be displayed the first time you run gnucash after the upgrade. So you may have missed it. > > * You mentioned you were migrating from gnucash 1.x. Was that really the > previous version of gnucash you ran on your system, or just that the data > file you now opened was last opened with gnucash 1.x ? Somewhere in the 2.x > series we switched backends for these preferences (from the old GConf to > the newer DConf). Migration between these two backends has been done > somewhere between 2.x and 3.x, but that migration code is no longer present > in gnucash 4.x. So if you really never ran gnucash 2.x and 3.x, this means > all your preferences have been reset to default. In that case you probably > want to go through your preferences again in "Edit->Preferences" to check > if they are still as you want them to be. > > That is what I found late yesterday. I had reported that my Scheduled > Transactions were not being posted, and John Ralls pointed me to the ST > section in Preferences. Sure enough, none of the boxes were checked, and > manually running Actions/Scheduled Transactions/Since Last Run entered all > of the delinquents. However when I called up dconf-editor, I found a folder > /org/gnucash with 7 subfolders, one of which is GnuCash. Oddly, GnuCash > contains 6 subfolders named the same as ones in its parent, and both sets > of folders contain folders /dialogs/scheduled-trans/since-last-run with > binary keys show-file-at-open and show-notify-window-at-file-open that are > enabled. It appears that GConf did get migrated to DConf but gnucash isn't > reading dconf. Considering you were previously on Ubuntu 20.04LTS the most recent gnucash on that system was 3.8b. The 1: in the package version number is a specific packaging prefix. I used to know what it was about. I do know it's not relevant to determine the actual gnucash version. So you're good. And indeed the migration to dconf has already happened by then. Unfortunately you are caught in yet another migration, which happens when upgrading to anything more recent than gnucash 4.6. For compatibility reasons with Gtk and flatpak we were forced to move our dconf settings from /org/gnucash to /org/gnucash/GnuCash That's why you find both trees when looking with dconf-editor. For some reason this migration doesn't seem to have run for your system and hence the preferences are not copied from the old to the new location. I don't know why that failed. This migration is only attempted once by default and failures are logged in the gnucash trace file. Unfortunately if you rerun gnucash after this first attempt, the trace file gets overwritten. You could try to retrigger this migration by manipulating dconf like so: * Open dconf-editor * Navigate to /org/gnucash/GnuCash/general * Select "prefs-version" * In the details that appear, select "Use Default" * Click "Apply" bottom right Next time you start gnucash the preferences migration logic should rerun. You can then check the
Re: [GNC] Mutual Fund Dividend After Sale
I will give that a try when I get a chance and will let you know. Thanks, On 9/7/22 10:35 AM, John Layman wrote: See attached clip. -Original Message- I tried something like that but couldn't get it work right. Could you send a example screen shot? -- Old Unix programmers never die, they just mv to /dev/null - Anonymous ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Using aqbanking with Bank of the West?
Good afternoon, Anyone have any luck using aqbanking with Bank of the West? I tried the usual gnucash online banking setup and got a gnucash stopped responding message with wait or force quit. I tried ofclient but got authentication failed: timed out. After I call customer support to make sure that my ofx access really was enabled I plan to try quicken so I can harvest the connection log. Any hints would be appreciated. Thanks! -- Glenn S. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Problems upgrading to 4.8a
Geert ~ Before doing anything, I looked at the current trace file. Lots of WARNs and ERRORs like * 12:03:55 WARN [gnc_gsettings_get_settings_ptr()] Ignoring attempt to access unknown gsettings schema org.gnucash.GnuCash.general * 12:03:55 ERROR gboolean gnc_gsettings_get_bool(const gchar*, const gchar*): assertion 'G_IS_SETTINGS (settings_ptr)' failed So I took a look for schema files: dellbert@dellbert:~$ sudo find / -xdev -name org.gnucash.GnuCash\*.gschema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.business.gschem a.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.totd.gschema.xm l /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.csv.gsch ema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.general.finance-quote.g schema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.window.pages.gschema.xm l /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.warnings.gschema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.history.gschema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.reconcile.gsche ma.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.export.csv.gsch ema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.gschema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.deprecated.gschema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.hbci.gsc hema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.flicker.gschema .xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.checkprinting.g schema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.generic. gschema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.commodities.gsc hema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.sxs.gschema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.ofx.gsch ema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.gschema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.dialogs.import.qif.gsch ema.xml /usr/share/glib-2.0/schemas/org.gnucash.GnuCash.window.pages.account.tr ee.gschema.xml dellbert@dellbert:~$ Should there be more? Phil ~ On 9/7/22 11:59, Geert Janssens wrote: Hi Phil, Op woensdag 7 september 2022 18:50:16 CEST schreef Phil Wolff: > > "Backup files" are autogenerated by gnucash and - as the name suggests - > > contain backups of your accounting data. They are generated in the same > > directory as your "Data file" and have as file name > > > > ..gnucash > > Don't see any of these You may have disabled backup file generation. > > "Saved reports" is a bit of an outlier. It is a single file that contains > > all "Saved report configurations" you have created in gnucash. For > > historical reasons this file is shared by all your "Data files". It is > > found in GNC_DATA_HOME and is called saved-reports- > > 3 files; -2.8, > -2.8~ and -2.8-backup suffixes. If the 2.8 is the GNC version, that means > that my recollection of seeing "1.something" in Synaptic is faulty. > 2.8 is the compatibility version and actually refers to gnucash 3.x (a small historical hiccup). > A few final remarks: > > * You never mentioned this, but normally gnucash would pop up a message when > it has attempted this migration. Did you actually get this message ? > > No. If the migration occurred during the Ubuntu 20.04 -> 22.04 upgrade, I > would not have seen it go by in the torrent generated by the upgrader. If > it showed such a message the first time I ran gnucash after the upgrade, I > missed seeing it. > It should be displayed the first time you run gnucash after the upgrade. So you may have missed it. > > * You mentioned you were migrating from gnucash 1.x. Was that really the > previous version of gnucash you ran on your system, or just that the data > file you now opened was last opened with gnucash 1.x ? Somewhere in the 2.x > series we switched backends for these preferences (from the old GConf to > the newer DConf). Migration between these two backends has been done > somewhere between 2.x and 3.x, but that migration code is no longer present > in gnucash 4.x. So if you really never ran gnucash 2.x and 3.x, this means > all your preferences have been reset to default. In that case you probably > want to go through your preferences again in "Edit->Preferences" to check > if they are still as you want them to be. > > That is what I found late yesterday. I had reported that my Scheduled > Transactions were not being posted, and John Ralls pointed me to the ST > section in Preferences. Sure enough, none of the boxes were checked, and > manually
Re: [GNC] Problems upgrading to 4.8a
Hi Phil, Op woensdag 7 september 2022 18:50:16 CEST schreef Phil Wolff: > > "Backup files" are autogenerated by gnucash and - as the name suggests - > > contain backups of your accounting data. They are generated in the same > > directory as your "Data file" and have as file name > > > > ..gnucash > > Don't see any of these You may have disabled backup file generation. > > "Saved reports" is a bit of an outlier. It is a single file that contains > > all "Saved report configurations" you have created in gnucash. For > > historical reasons this file is shared by all your "Data files". It is > > found in GNC_DATA_HOME and is called saved-reports- > > 3 files; -2.8, > -2.8~ and -2.8-backup suffixes. If the 2.8 is the GNC version, that means > that my recollection of seeing "1.something" in Synaptic is faulty. > 2.8 is the compatibility version and actually refers to gnucash 3.x (a small historical hiccup). > A few final remarks: > > * You never mentioned this, but normally gnucash would pop up a message when > it has attempted this migration. Did you actually get this message ? > > No. If the migration occurred during the Ubuntu 20.04 -> 22.04 upgrade, I > would not have seen it go by in the torrent generated by the upgrader. If > it showed such a message the first time I ran gnucash after the upgrade, I > missed seeing it. > It should be displayed the first time you run gnucash after the upgrade. So you may have missed it. > > * You mentioned you were migrating from gnucash 1.x. Was that really the > previous version of gnucash you ran on your system, or just that the data > file you now opened was last opened with gnucash 1.x ? Somewhere in the 2.x > series we switched backends for these preferences (from the old GConf to > the newer DConf). Migration between these two backends has been done > somewhere between 2.x and 3.x, but that migration code is no longer present > in gnucash 4.x. So if you really never ran gnucash 2.x and 3.x, this means > all your preferences have been reset to default. In that case you probably > want to go through your preferences again in "Edit->Preferences" to check > if they are still as you want them to be. > > That is what I found late yesterday. I had reported that my Scheduled > Transactions were not being posted, and John Ralls pointed me to the ST > section in Preferences. Sure enough, none of the boxes were checked, and > manually running Actions/Scheduled Transactions/Since Last Run entered all > of the delinquents. However when I called up dconf-editor, I found a folder > /org/gnucash with 7 subfolders, one of which is GnuCash. Oddly, GnuCash > contains 6 subfolders named the same as ones in its parent, and both sets > of folders contain folders /dialogs/scheduled-trans/since-last-run with > binary keys show-file-at-open and show-notify-window-at-file-open that are > enabled. It appears that GConf did get migrated to DConf but gnucash isn't > reading dconf. Considering you were previously on Ubuntu 20.04LTS the most recent gnucash on that system was 3.8b. The 1: in the package version number is a specific packaging prefix. I used to know what it was about. I do know it's not relevant to determine the actual gnucash version. So you're good. And indeed the migration to dconf has already happened by then. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Problems upgrading to 4.8a
Geert ~ On 9/7/22 00:45, Geert Janssens wrote: Phill, "Data files" are the ones containing your actual accounting data. These files normally have file extension ".gnucash". If you have these files from the 1.x period they may also have no extension at all or the ".xacc" extension. This .gnucash file is what I refer to as "data file." "Backup files" are autogenerated by gnucash and - as the name suggests - contain backups of your accounting data. They are generated in the same directory as your "Data file" and have as file name ..gnucash Don't see any of these "Log files" in this context are also auto generated by gnucash and contain a transaction log. That is it logs all changes made to transactions in chronological order between file saves. They can be used to replay such changes on top of a backup file to restore lost data. They are also generated in the same directory as the "Data files" and have as file name ..log Lots of these, dating back to when I migrated from Quicken to GNC "Metadata files" or "state files" contain non-accounting data. That is it will record per "Data file" which windows and tabs you had open last time you were working with that "Data file", it will also remember window positions and sizes, the options for reports that were still open and so on. There is exactly one "Metadata file" per "Data file" and these will be stored in GNC_DATA_HOME/books. The name of such a file will be .gcm Just one, contents as you describe "Saved reports" is a bit of an outlier. It is a single file that contains all "Saved report configurations" you have created in gnucash. For historical reasons this file is shared by all your "Data files". It is found in GNC_DATA_HOME and is called saved-reports- 3 files; -2.8, -2.8~ and -2.8-backup suffixes. If the 2.8 is the GNC version, that means that my recollection of seeing "1.something" in Synaptic is faulty. With those defined, let's turn back to the migration. I'm surprised your DOT_GNUCASH_DIR is empty. GnuCash will only *copy* files during migration, not move. So even in the case of a successful migration, the original files should have still been in DOT_GNUCASH_DIR. I'd expect at least a populated books directory and a saved-reports file, unless you never created custom report configurations. I've never seen anything other than my .gnucash and .log files here, and it's now empty because I moved (mv, not cp) them to ~/Documents/gnucash yesterday. I also quickly checked and found the migration code is slightly dumb in that it will copy *all* files in DOT_GNUCASH_DIR. That will include your data files, backup files and log files if you effectively had stored them. But that leads to a very tricky situation unfortunately: without explicit action, gnucash would continue automatically open your data file from the DOT_GNUCASH_DIR directory while you might believe that after migration the files should be loaded from GNC_DATA_HOME. I think you have more or less solved this by moving the data file (and log and backup files) to $HOME/Documents/gnucash. But I just wanted to point this out to be sure you're not inadvertently get caught by this confusion. As for the .gcm file sizes: these files hold the state of your windows, tabs open reports and so on. I presume you had many more open last time you ran gnucash with the old .gcm files in place. Rerunning gnucash without a .gcm file is like a reset of your state information. It will only open single account hierarchy page and unless you reopened all tabs and reports before closing like you had before that would explain why the old one is much bigger. That's exactly what I saw yesterday by comparing the old and new .gcm files. A few final remarks: * You never mentioned this, but normally gnucash would pop up a message when it has attempted this migration. Did you actually get this message ? No. If the migration occurred during the Ubuntu 20.04 -> 22.04 upgrade, I would not have seen it go by in the torrent generated by the upgrader. If it showed such a message the first time I ran gnucash after the upgrade, I missed seeing it. * You mentioned you were migrating from gnucash 1.x. Was that really the previous version of gnucash you ran on your system, or just that the data file you now opened was last opened with gnucash 1.x ? Somewhere in the 2.x series we switched backends for these preferences (from the old GConf to the newer DConf). Migration between these two backends has been done somewhere between 2.x and 3.x, but that migration code is no longer present in gnucash 4.x. So if you really never ran gnucash 2.x and 3.x, thi
Re: [GNC] help: vs. ghelp: was: Problems upgrading to 4.8a
I have looked at the link and moved a bit upwards in the hierarchy to this page: https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/all/gnucash-docs[1] There's a link there to download the debian gnucash-docs source package on the right hand side. I have extracted that and found a rules file (presumably that's what's used to build and install ?) Comparing the rules file in there between bullseye (stable) and bookworm (testing) does indeed suggest this happens because of the change to cmake. It looks like the new rules file should explicitly add ghelp as target in the make rule that also builds html and pdf. So line 42 may have to become $(MAKE) -C $(BDIR) ghelp html pdf Or for the upcoming 4.12 $(MAKE) -C $(BDIR) xdghelp html pdf Note that html and pdf were never really meant for inclusion in the linux distribution packages and not what gnucash has been designed to interact with. If the packager wants to they can be included though. I'll add that due to a recent change in the build scripts the html target is no longer installed by default. If this installation is required for the debian package to contain the html output (it doesn't look like that) the override_dh_auto_configure line requires an additional option, namely -DWITH_HTML_INSTALL=ON Final note: the -DWITH_PDF=ON should not be necessary. It's enabled by default when building on linux. An alternative way to fix it would be to *disable* the unwanted targets (currently that would be epub via "-DWITH_EPUB=OFF") and then have override_dh_auto_build just build all instead of specific targets, like so: $(MAKE) -C $(BDIR) Hopefully this extra info can help Dmitry decide on how to fix the gnucash-docs package on Debian. Regards, Geert Op woensdag 7 september 2022 16:20:59 CEST schreef john: > I'm pretty sure that the whole Debian ecosystem uses the Debian packages > created by Dmitry Smirnov, which is why he's CC'd on this thread. The file > list for his testing Gnucash-docs package: > https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/all/gnucash-docs/filelist and for > stable it's > https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/all/gnucash-docs/filelistNote that > stable has the docbook docs and testing doesn't. Might we have caused this > with our cmake changes? > > Regards, > John Ralls > > . > > > On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:48 AM, Geert Janssens > > wrote:> > > Op dinsdag 6 september 2022 19:00:47 CEST schreef Frank H. Ellenberger: > > > Am 06.09.22 um 06:01 schrieb john: > > > >> On Sep 5, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> Hi, > > > >> > > > >> Am 05.09.22 um 22:27 schrieb Geert Janssens: > > > >>> Op maandag 5 september 2022 19:09:06 CEST schreef john: > > > This is https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798612 > > > > > > I discovered while researching this that yelp v.42 just dropped > > > support > > > for ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] help: vs. ghelp: was: Problems upgrading to 4.8a
I'm pretty sure that the whole Debian ecosystem uses the Debian packages
created by Dmitry Smirnov, which is why he's CC'd on this thread.
The file list for his testing Gnucash-docs package:
https://packages.debian.org/bookworm/all/gnucash-docs/filelist and for stable
it's
https://packages.debian.org/bullseye/all/gnucash-docs/filelistNote that stable
has the docbook docs and testing doesn't. Might we have caused this with our
cmake changes?
Regards,
John Ralls
.
> On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:48 AM, Geert Janssens
> wrote:
>
> Op dinsdag 6 september 2022 19:00:47 CEST schreef Frank H. Ellenberger:
> > Am 06.09.22 um 06:01 schrieb john:
> > >> On Sep 5, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Hi,
> > >>
> > >> Am 05.09.22 um 22:27 schrieb Geert Janssens:
> > >>> Op maandag 5 september 2022 19:09:06 CEST schreef john:
> > This is https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798612
> >
> > I discovered while researching this that yelp v.42 just dropped support
> > for
> > the ghelp: scheme. help:gnucash-help and help:gnucash-guide are able to
> > find the GnuCash docs
> > >>>
> > >>> I'm surprised the help: scheme finds the documentation in the old ghelp
> > >>> locations, but that's good news really.
> > >>> I think we best add this in for gnucash 4.12 then, and conditional on
> > >>> the yelp version.
> > >>
> > >> Why conditional, IIRC help: is defined in yelp for about a decade.
> > >
> > > Because yelp v3.x (and maybe v40 and v41, I didn't have those handy to
> > > test) can't find the GnuCash docs in /usr/share/docs/gnucash-docs with
> > > help: so we have to use ghelp: on distros that are still shipping older
> > > versions of yelp.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > John Ralls
> >
> > From https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/yelp/-/blob/master/NEWS
> >
> > > Changes in 2.31.5:
> > > --
> > > * New "Read Later" feature
> > > * Support for proposed XDG help: URI scheme
> >
> > They should find /usr/share/help/{lang}/…
> >
> > Why do you want to unstall into /usr/share/docs/?
> > Also ghelp: did not recognitze that.
> > It used /usr/share/gnome/help/…
> >
> > Regards
> > Frank
>
> I've explained the difference in my other reply. I think this is a bug in
> ubuntu packaging; they seem to ship our html format and no longer our docbook
> format.
>
> Regards,
>
> Geert
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Re: [GNC] "Deleted" Invoices or Bills
I already answered about them not 'disappearing' and how to mark them to easily find them again, *and* how to find them again for reuse. If you didn't mark them as advised in some fashion and simply left them unposted when closing the tab, then learn to play with 'Find'. Menu: Business > Customer/Vendor > Find Bill/Invoice Set criteria to: 'Is Posted?' to unchecked. That will get you all unposted bills or invoices. (not both at the same time) You should then play around with various criteria to discover how to refine the list, say for a particular Customer/Vendor, or over a certain date range, etc. Regards, Adrien On 9/6/22 7:21 PM, Eric Hammond wrote: I have created many test invoices (and bills) that I "virtually deleted" by not Posting them. As before, as soon as I close that document's tab it apparently vanishes. I have opened the Gnucash.gnucash file with Notepad++ and searched for the text I know should be in the unposted invoices, but no results. Having those particular invoices or bills actually vanish would the best outcome, re-useability is second best. How do I find them again to re-use? Or verify that they are gone, thereby saving space? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Mutual Fund Dividend After Sale
I tried something like that but couldn't get it work right.
Could you send a example screen shot?
On 9/6/22 11:12 AM, John Layman wrote:
I've had the same situation, but did add a zero-share split to the closed
account. One side was a deposit to the brokerage core account, the other to
Income:Dividends:Tax-Advantaged.
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From: gnucash-user
On Behalf Of Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 1:13 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Mutual Fund Dividend After Sale
No I didn't delete the account?
Why would I do silly thing like that and lose all that history?
The account is hidden because it's balance is 0.
Reappearing means exactly what it says.
I was no longer in the account tree, i.e. list, because after the sale it's
balance became 0. No matter how I record that late dividend the balance
becomes non 0 and the account reappears in the account tree or list.
I don't under stand the last part.
On 9/5/22 12:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
You deleted the account holding the fund after selling it?
Otherwise, and unless you marked it 'hidden' it will always be there.
Having activity in it doesn't change that. But you wouldn't have
activity in it anyway from a dividend.
What *exactly* do you mean by 'reappearing in my account list' and by
'screwing everything else up'?
A Dividend receipt would normally be between some asset account
('bank' or a brokerage cash account if direct deposit, 'undeposited
funds' if by paper check) according to how you received the money, and
an Income/Revenue account, say 'Dividends Received'. The FundXYZ
account shouldn't be touched at all.
Regards,
Adrien
On 9/5/22 11:41 AM, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
Last month I sold a mutual fund say XYZ.
Several weeks after the sale closed and the calendar date went into
the next quarter I received a dividend from XYZ.
How do I enter that dividend transaction for XYZ without having it
reappearing in my account list and screwing everything else up?
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Re: [GNC] Mutual Fund Dividend After Sale
You’re the one lashing out. Take a chill pill
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> On Sep 7, 2022, at 12:51 AM, David T. wrote:
>
> Jack:
>
> DRIP="Dividend Re-Investment Plan"
>
> It seems to me that you've decided, in your frustration, to lash out at the
> people who are trying to understand your problem and offer you help. That's
> not a good look. You've testily confirmed that you haven't received shares
> from this dividend, and dismissed the writers asking this reasonable
> question. Your lack of discussion regarding the technical reporting
> requirements for ROI ("Return On Investment") scenarios implies that this is
> not your concern.
>
> It seems to me that you have yet really to explain your original problem
> clearly-- specifically, what exactly is showing up now that you've received
> additional money from the disposed asset? Is it a balance in the Chart of
> Accounts? Is it a balance in some report? *Where* is this transaction going
> to screw things up?
>
> Others have explained that receipt of cash (in a transaction from income into
> some brokerage cash account) would not affect any display of the commodity
> account. It's like some random relative sending you $50: you enter the income
> as coming from Income and going into your checking account. How would this
> dividend be different?
>
> David T.
>
>> On September 7, 2022 5:43:16 AM GMT+03:00, David Carlson
>> wrote:
>> You need to use nouns instead of pronouns
>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 8:44 PM Jack Frillman wrote:
>>>
>>> What ever what that is.
>>>
>>> On 9/6/22 7:38 PM, David Carlson wrote:
>>>
>>> Some DRIPS work that way
>>>
On Tue, Sep 6, 2022, 6:17 PM Jack Frillman wrote:
Cash of course.
How can you reinvest in something you no longer have?
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On Sep 6, 2022, at 7:04 PM, David Carlson
wrote:
Jack,
John Ralls asked whether you received shares or cash. It makes a
difference.
On Tue, Sep 6, 2022 at 4:30 PM John Layman <
john.lay...@laymanandlayman.com> wrote:
> I've had the same situation, but did add a zero-share split to the closed
> account. One side was a deposit to the brokerage core account, the
> other to
> Income:Dividends:Tax-Advantaged.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user ieee@gnucash.org>
> On Behalf Of Jack Frillman via gnucash-user
> Sent: Monday, September 5, 2022 1:13 PM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Mutual Fund Dividend After Sale
>
> No I didn't delete the account?
> Why would I do silly thing like that and lose all that history?
>
> The account is hidden because it's balance is 0.
>
> Reappearing means exactly what it says.
> I was no longer in the account tree, i.e. list, because after the sale
> it's
> balance became 0. No matter how I record that late dividend the balance
> becomes non 0 and the account reappears in the account tree or list.
>
> I don't under stand the last part.
>
>> On 9/5/22 12:59 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:
>> You deleted the account holding the fund after selling it?
>>
>> Otherwise, and unless you marked it 'hidden' it will always be there.
>> Having activity in it doesn't change that. But you wouldn't have
>> activity in it anyway from a dividend.
>>
>> What *exactly* do you mean by 'reappearing in my account list' and by
>> 'screwing everything else up'?
>>
>> A Dividend receipt would normally be between some asset account
>> ('bank' or a brokerage cash account if direct deposit, 'undeposited
>> funds' if by paper check) according to how you received the money, and
>> an Income/Revenue account, say 'Dividends Received'. The FundXYZ
>> account shouldn't be touched at all.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>>> On 9/5/22 11:41 AM, Jack Frillman via gnucash-user wrote:
>>> Last month I sold a mutual fund say XYZ.
>>> Several weeks after the sale closed and the calendar date went into
>>> the next quarter I received a dividend from XYZ.
>>> How do I enter that dividend transaction for XYZ without having it
>>> reappearing in my account list and screwing everything else up?
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Re: [GNC] Mutual Fund Dividend After Sale
On 06 September 2022 at 14:56, Jack Frillman said: [...] > The stock issues it's dividends at the end of each quarter. The stock was > sold before the end of the quarter and the dividend was issued once the > new quarter was entered. > > Regards, > John Ralls > > So there is no reason for it to affect the stock account, and specifically to affect the balance of the stock account. So what's the problem? ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] help: vs. ghelp: was: Problems upgrading to 4.8a
Op dinsdag 6 september 2022 19:00:47 CEST schreef Frank H. Ellenberger:
> Am 06.09.22 um 06:01 schrieb john:
> >> On Sep 5, 2022, at 2:01 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Am 05.09.22 um 22:27 schrieb Geert Janssens:
> >>> Op maandag 5 september 2022 19:09:06 CEST schreef john:
> This is https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798612
>
> I discovered while researching this that yelp v.42 just dropped support
> for
> the ghelp: scheme. help:gnucash-help and help:gnucash-guide are able to
> find the GnuCash docs
> >>>
> >>> I'm surprised the help: scheme finds the documentation in the old ghelp
> >>> locations, but that's good news really.
> >>> I think we best add this in for gnucash 4.12 then, and conditional on
> >>> the yelp version.
> >>
> >> Why conditional, IIRC help: is defined in yelp for about a decade.
> >
> > Because yelp v3.x (and maybe v40 and v41, I didn't have those handy to
> > test) can't find the GnuCash docs in /usr/share/docs/gnucash-docs with
> > help: so we have to use ghelp: on distros that are still shipping older
> > versions of yelp.
> >
> > Regards,
> > John Ralls
>
> From https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/yelp/-/blob/master/NEWS
>
> > Changes in 2.31.5:
> > --
> > * New "Read Later" feature
> > * Support for proposed XDG help: URI scheme
>
> They should find /usr/share/help/{lang}/…
>
> Why do you want to unstall into /usr/share/docs/?
> Also ghelp: did not recognitze that.
> It used /usr/share/gnome/help/…
>
> Regards
> Frank
I've explained the difference in my other reply. I think this is a bug in
ubuntu packaging;
they seem to ship our html format and no longer our docbook format.
Regards,
Geert
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Re: [GNC] Problems upgrading to 4.8a
Phill, The values you set for GNC_DATA_HOME and GNC_CONFIG_HOME are the defaults when these variables are not set. So there's no need to explicitly set them, only if you want to override the default values. It's normal that there's nothing in GNC_CONFIG_HOME. GnuCash will never write files in that directory itself, but it will look for user generated config files in there (log.conf or config- user.scm currently). Next, I'm not sure we are talking about the same thing really when we refer to "data files". To avoid further confusion I'll define a few things first: "Data files" are the ones containing your actual accounting data. These files normally have file extension ".gnucash". If you have these files from the 1.x period they may also have no extension at all or the ".xacc" extension. "Backup files" are autogenerated by gnucash and - as the name suggests - contain backups of your accounting data. They are generated in the same directory as your "Data file" and have as file name ..gnucash "Log files" in this context are also auto generated by gnucash and contain a transaction log. That is it logs all changes made to transactions in chronological order between file saves. They can be used to replay such changes on top of a backup file to restore lost data. They are also generated in the same directory as the "Data files" and have as file name ..log "Metadata files" or "state files" contain non-accounting data. That is it will record per "Data file" which windows and tabs you had open last time you were working with that "Data file", it will also remember window positions and sizes, the options for reports that were still open and so on. There is exactly one "Metadata file" per "Data file" and these will be stored in GNC_DATA_HOME/books. The name of such a file will be .gcm "Saved reports" is a bit of an outlier. It is a single file that contains all "Saved report configurations" you have created in gnucash. For historical reasons this file is shared by all your "Data files". It is found in GNC_DATA_HOME and is called saved-reports- With those defined, let's turn back to the migration. I'm surprised your DOT_GNUCASH_DIR is empty. GnuCash will only *copy* files during migration, not move. So even in the case of a successful migration, the original files should have still been in DOT_GNUCASH_DIR. I'd expect at least a populated books directory and a saved-reports file, unless you never created custom report configurations. I also quickly checked and found the migration code is slightly dumb in that it will copy *all* files in DOT_GNUCASH_DIR. That will include your data files, backup files and log files if you effectively had stored them. But that leads to a very tricky situation unfortunately: without explicit action, gnucash would continue automatically open your data file from the DOT_GNUCASH_DIR directory while you might believe that after migration the files should be loaded from GNC_DATA_HOME. I think you have more or less solved this by moving the data file (and log and backup files) to $HOME/Documents/gnucash. But I just wanted to point this out to be sure you're not inadvertently get caught by this confusion. As for the .gcm file sizes: these files hold the state of your windows, tabs open reports and so on. I presume you had many more open last time you ran gnucash with the old .gcm files in place. Rerunning gnucash without a .gcm file is like a reset of your state information. It will only open single account hierarchy page and unless you reopened all tabs and reports before closing like you had before that would explain why the old one is much bigger. A few final remarks: * You never mentioned this, but normally gnucash would pop up a message when it has attempted this migration. Did you actually get this message ? * You mentioned you were migrating from gnucash 1.x. Was that really the previous version of gnucash you ran on your system, or just that the data file you now opened was last opened with gnucash 1.x ? Somewhere in the 2.x series we switched backends for these preferences (from the old GConf to the newer DConf). Migration between these two backends has been done somewhere between 2.x and 3.x, but that migration code is no longer present in gnucash 4.x. So if you really never ran gnucash 2.x and 3.x, this means all your preferences have been reset to default. In that case you probably want to go through your preferences again in "Edit->Preferences" to check if they are still as you want them to be. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
