Re: [GNC] Gnucash on MacOS 12.5 ?

2022-10-23 Thread john


> On Oct 23, 2022, at 10:41 AM, Jesse Ayers  wrote:
> 
> I have been using GnuCash on Mac for several years.  I have purchased a new 
> MacBook that runs MacOS 12.5 “Monterey.”  Can someone tell me if Gnucash will 
> run on this new OS?  I haven’t been able to find an answer on the Gnucash 
> site or in the text files that come with version 4.12.


The only issue specific to Apple Silicon is that Finance::Quote doesn't work, 
see https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798456.

Regards,
John Ralls
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Re: [GNC] Enhancement request: multi-currency accounts

2022-10-23 Thread Anton Tsyganenko
You say that having multi-currency accounts for income and expense is a 
bad idea, because the amounts will be shown in your base currency at the 
current exchange rate. But there are a few issues in this argument:


- First of all, when you make a profit and loss report, for example, you 
have a few options of choosing an exchange rate, not only the "most 
recent". I'm not sure if it can take its own exchange rate, closest to 
the date it was made, for each transaction, but if not, that's just 
another feature request for the developers.


- Information about the current value of transaction made in past in 
other currency may not be needed sometimes. For example, if I want to 
see, how much of its value the peso lost over the last years by 
comparing my expenses for the same dinner a few years ago and now. If I 
enter all the expenses in EUR, that is impossible. I would not say, that 
that's an often task, but anyway.


- Think about people who live in Argentina and track their expenses. 
Should they track them in EUR, because peso changes its value over time 
a lot? The issue of money changing its value over time should rather be 
solved by discounting, than tracking all the expenses in a single currency.


- Even if multi-currency accounts are added in gnucash, you still can 
convert all your expenses in your base currency. Any multi-currency 
accounts can be used just as a single-currency one.


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Re: [GNC] Enhancement request: multi-currency accounts

2022-10-23 Thread Anton Tsyganenko
So, can your proposal work with this kind of structure as well? Or mest 
the division into currencies happen at the lowest level of account?


The division happens at the lowest level, however the proposal still can 
work with this kind of structure. In this case all the multi-currency 
accounts would just have 1 sub-account for the currency, which the 
assets are nominated in.


How do you "make an operation in this currency"?  Suppose I am entering 
a new transaction: what is the currency of that transaction?  I think 
there is an answer possible, but it needs to be defined.


The proposal is generally for the data structure. I don't have the full 
vision of the interface yet. Probably it would be a drop-down menu for 
currency in the ledger. It may look like this:


https://i.ibb.co/wLDDTSx/Screenshot-from-2022-10-23-12-58-20.png

Here I merged together splits for the same multi-currency account, but 
different sub-accounts for trading and cash exchange, so there is debit 
and credit in one line, but in different currencies. I'm not sure, that 
it should be done this way, but in this simple examples it looks good 
for me.


> How do you enter a multi-currency transaction? e.g. I pay for a 
dinner > with a EUR price using my CAD credit card. The expense is in 
EUR, the > credit card is in CAD, and the card company automatically 
converts the > EUR charge to CAD and bills me in CAD. How would I enter 
that transaction?


You can use either first or second "Paying for a dinner abroad" example 
from the screenshot above. It only depends on which currency you prefer 
this expenses would be tracked in.

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Re: [GNC] Gnucash on MacOS 12.5 ?

2022-10-23 Thread William Prescott
I run Gnucash 4.12-1 on a MacBook Pro M1 Max, Monterey 12.6 with no problems.

On 2022 Oct 23, at 10-23 12:41:43, Jesse Ayers  wrote:

I have been using GnuCash on Mac for several years.  I have purchased a new 
MacBook that runs MacOS 12.5 “Monterey.”  Can someone tell me if Gnucash will 
run on this new OS?  I haven’t been able to find an answer on the Gnucash site 
or in the text files that come with version 4.12.

Thanks
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Re: [GNC] Gnucash on MacOS 12.5 ?

2022-10-23 Thread Ken Farley
Been running on a Mac based system for a very long time, since 2011, 
including my current Mac Mini M1. Runs perfectly. Have no fear. If you 
run into any oddities, just check the other Mac related posts on this 
forum and you'll likely find answers.

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[GNC] Gnucash on MacOS 12.5 ?

2022-10-23 Thread Jesse Ayers
I have been using GnuCash on Mac for several years.  I have purchased a new 
MacBook that runs MacOS 12.5 “Monterey.”  Can someone tell me if Gnucash will 
run on this new OS?  I haven’t been able to find an answer on the Gnucash site 
or in the text files that come with version 4.12.

Thanks
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