Re: [GNC] Not getting any emails

2023-06-23 Thread William Prescott
Since we're talking about backup strategies...

I do an hourly backup to a local disk ((Time Machine)
A backup to the cloud every 15 minutes (CrashPlan)
And a clone to one of pair local disks every few days, alternating between them 
(SuperDuper)

A few years ago, I had a failure of my working hard disk, followed within a 
week or so with a failure of the local backup and at the same time, I realized 
the cloud backup had not been functioning for some time. I lost no data but it 
confirmed my belief that you need a comprehensive backup strategy.

Will

On 23 Jun 2023, at 11:57, Michael or Penny Novack  
wrote:

On 6/23/2023 12:30 PM, William Prescott wrote:
> Are you asking about backing up the Gnucash application or the Gnucash data 
> file. You definitely should back up the data file. The application is less 
> critical because you can always reinstall it. However, I just backup 
> everything. It is simpler and safer than picking and choosing what to backup.

I do data backups on a regular schedule. It is easier to back up ALL user data 
rather than the data of each application separately.

I do system backups prior to each "build" << installation of new programs or 
versions of programs >>  There is no need in a case like mine to do backups of 
software that has not changed (since last system backup). HOWEVER  if you 
allow automatic or frequent "upgrades" of software (as opposed to infrequent 
scheduled "builds") you'd probably be better off doing a system backup by some 
regular schedule since for you unpredictable when software has changed.

Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Capital gains

2023-06-23 Thread john



> On Jun 23, 2023, at 11:44, Fred Tydeman  wrote:
> 
> If I sell a stock for a profit, I can think of two ways to record the
> transaction.
> 
> 1)  Record the sale with the sell price.  This results in less shares in
> the stock
> account, and more cash somewhere else; and two trending transactions.
> This shows up as four splits.
> But, then, how do I find out the profit  in a GnuCash report?
> 
> 2) Record the sale with the buy price along with a transfer to an explicit
> capital gains income account (and the above four splits).
> 
> Does it matter?  Which is better?

You must do both, see Chapter 11 of the Tutorial and Concepts Guide 
(https://www.gnucash.org/docs/v4/C/gnucash-guide/chapter_capgain.html).

And BTW that applies to every disposal of any commodity that isn't your home 
currency, even when you have a foreign bank account and use it to defray an 
expense, and it's easier in the long run if you do so when doing an asset 
transfer like buying stock in a foreign currency.

Fail and you'll never get a balanced Trial Balance report.


Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] Capital gains

2023-06-23 Thread Fred Tydeman
If I sell a stock for a profit, I can think of two ways to record the
transaction.

1)  Record the sale with the sell price.  This results in less shares in
the stock
 account, and more cash somewhere else; and two trending transactions.
 This shows up as four splits.
 But, then, how do I find out the profit  in a GnuCash report?

2) Record the sale with the buy price along with a transfer to an explicit
 capital gains income account (and the above four splits).

Does it matter?  Which is better?
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Re: [GNC] Not getting any emails

2023-06-23 Thread Michael or Penny Novack

On 6/23/2023 12:30 PM, William Prescott wrote:

Are you asking about backing up the Gnucash application or the Gnucash data 
file. You definitely should back up the data file. The application is less 
critical because you can always reinstall it. However, I just backup 
everything. It is simpler and safer than picking and choosing what to backup.


I do data backups on a regular schedule. It is easier to back up ALL 
user data rather than the data of each application separately.


I do system backups prior to each "build" << installation of new 
programs or versions of programs >>  There is no need in a case like 
mine to do backups of software that has not changed (since last system 
backup). HOWEVER  if you allow automatic or frequent "upgrades" of 
software (as opposed to infrequent scheduled "builds") you'd probably be 
better off doing a system backup by some regular schedule since for you 
unpredictable when software has changed.


Michael D Novack


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Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation

2023-06-23 Thread Kalpesh Patel
I'll give it a shot later today. 

I have not intentionally removed/deleted anything thus far so the source build 
should still be sitting in the directory.

-Original Message-
From: Bruce Schuck  
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2023 12:35 PM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Cc: Kalpesh Patel 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation

On 6/22/23 18:47 -0700, Bruce Schuck wrote:

> Assuming the F::Q 1.56_02 build files still exist in your 
> C:\Strawberry\cpan\build directory, trying the stockdump.pl example 
> script as I did would help.

If there is no Finance-Quote-1.56_02-? directory in C:\Strawberry\cpan\build 
(-? could be -0, -1, -2, ... ) then download the package from CPAN first.

C:> perl -MCPAN -e shell

cpan> get BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz
Database was generated on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 17:25:12 GMT Checksum for 
C:\STRAWB~1\cpan\sources\authors\id\B\BP\BPSCHUCK\Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz
ok
Scanning cache C:\STRAWB~1\cpan\build for sizes DONE
cpan> quit

Once downloaded, there should be both

C:\Strawberry\cpan\build\Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz

and

C:\Strawberry\cpan\build\Finance-Quote-1.56_02-0

Once you test using the the stockdump.pl example script, one can differentiate 
between an F::Q or Perl issue or a GnuCash issue.

Bruce S.

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Re: [GNC] Not getting any emails

2023-06-23 Thread Steve Butler
James,  only you can determine what is important enough to warrant a backup.

However, my philosophy is that everything I put on my computer, no matter
how trivial, needs to be on a backup of some kind.

So I look for backup strategies that get everything.  That way I don't have
to worry about individual applications (OpenOffice, GnuCash, Word, Excel,
etc.).

For Ubuntu (Unix/Linux), I use the included Backup facility and grab the
entire home folder nightly  Plus I list out all the installed packages in
case I need to rebuild from a new O/S.

For Windows I use their supplied backup facility to grab all user data plus
any additional storage areas (but not the backup NAS) nightly.

Everything, including phones, tablets, laptops, is backed up to that NAS on
a nightly basis.

The NAS is copied to a large external drive on a regular basis for off site
stoage.

None of this is specific for GnuCash.  But GnuCash is included due to the
inclusive nature of my backup strategy.

I hope this is helpful to you.

On Fri, Jun 23, 2023, 09:02 James Baxter via gnucash-user <
gnucash-user@gnucash.org> wrote:

> This is James Baxter and I am not getting an updates. One thing I am
> looking at is. I was doing a backup every time I do something on my laptop.
> I need to know. Do I need to backup gnucash.
> ThanksJames Baxter
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Re: [GNC] Not getting any emails

2023-06-23 Thread William Prescott
Are you asking about backing up the Gnucash application or the Gnucash data 
file. You definitely should back up the data file. The application is less 
critical because you can always reinstall it. However, I just backup 
everything. It is simpler and safer than picking and choosing what to backup.

Will

On 23 Jun 2023, at 10:00, James Baxter via gnucash-user 
 wrote:

This is James Baxter and I am not getting an updates. One thing I am looking at 
is. I was doing a backup every time I do something on my laptop. 
I need to know. Do I need to backup gnucash.
ThanksJames Baxter 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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Re: [GNC] Finance::Quote 1.56_02 Available for Evaluation

2023-06-23 Thread Bruce Schuck

On 6/22/23 18:47 -0700, Bruce Schuck wrote:

Assuming the F::Q 1.56_02 build files still exist in your 
C:\Strawberry\cpan\build directory, trying the stockdump.pl example 
script as I did would help.


If there is no Finance-Quote-1.56_02-? directory in 
C:\Strawberry\cpan\build (-? could be -0, -1, -2, ... ) then download 
the package from CPAN first.


C:> perl -MCPAN -e shell

cpan> get BPSCHUCK/Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz
Database was generated on Thu, 22 Jun 2023 17:25:12 GMT
Checksum for 
C:\STRAWB~1\cpan\sources\authors\id\B\BP\BPSCHUCK\Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz 
ok

Scanning cache C:\STRAWB~1\cpan\build for sizes
DONE
cpan> quit

Once downloaded, there should be both

C:\Strawberry\cpan\build\Finance-Quote-1.56_02.tar.gz

and

C:\Strawberry\cpan\build\Finance-Quote-1.56_02-0

Once you test using the the stockdump.pl example script, one can 
differentiate between an F::Q or Perl issue or a GnuCash issue.


Bruce S.
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[GNC] Not getting any emails

2023-06-23 Thread James Baxter via gnucash-user
This is James Baxter and I am not getting an updates. One thing I am looking at 
is. I was doing a backup every time I do something on my laptop. 
I need to know. Do I need to backup gnucash.
ThanksJames Baxter 

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
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