Re: [GNC] Bulk invoice printing

2023-10-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone
You'd still have to generate the PDFs individually, which is just 
'printing to a file' and so not really saving any clicks. *Then* you 
need to send them to the printer with more clicks as you describe.


I could be mistaken, but I understood the issue was having to go through 
the steps:


1. Generate an Invoice (lots of clicks and typing, even with the 
duplicate function)

2. Print it (select printer, adjust settings, etc.)
3. Repeat for each member

While in this case it is only an annual workflow, having more than a 
dozen or so of these to do all at once is tedious, and having 50+ is 
crazy repetitive and a strain on fingers. (and increases the probability 
of doing something wrong due to the monotony)


If steps #1 and #2 aren't done at the same time. Then you could add:

1a. Do a Find for the invoice(s) or open invoices from AR via the 'jump 
to invoice' on the right click menu

1b. Display the Invoice Report

Optionally the steps can be reversed which runs an Invoice Report, and 
then you have to choose which customer and invoice. (even more clicks)


No matter the workflow chosen, lots and lots of clicks are involved with 
the present state of GnuCash. The Business Features were designed for a 
small consultancy that occasionally generates a few invoices. That 
doesn't mean you can't use it otherwise, but it wasn't optimized for 
other use cases.


Regards,
Adrien

p.s.—you pressed the right button.

On 10/16/23 11:22 PM, John Walker wrote:
I am unsure if I have pressed the right buttons in replying to Adrien 
and Arek and everyone else on the list.  Please let me know.


If printing is your only issue, I suggest that you make pdfs of your 
invoices through Gnucash and store them all in the same folder.


When you go to print, use file explorer, go to the pdf folder where your 
invoices are stored and select which pdf files you want to print.  Then, 
right click on one of the selected files and left click on *print*.  All 
selected files should print individually for you on your default printer.


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Re: [GNC] Bulk invoice printing

2023-10-16 Thread John Walker
I am unsure if I have pressed the right buttons in replying to Adrien 
and Arek and everyone else on the list.  Please let me know.


If printing is your only issue, I suggest that you make pdfs of your 
invoices through Gnucash and store them all in the same folder.


When you go to print, use file explorer, go to the pdf folder where your 
invoices are stored and select which pdf files you want to print.  Then, 
right click on one of the selected files and left click on *print*.  All 
selected files should print individually for you on your default printer.


Cheers
John

On 17/10/2023 12:30 pm, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

No, that won't work.

This is a long standing bug/enhancement request.

Your best bet is to use an outside invoice generating system, and then 
import the resulting transactions into GnuCash. You can then still 
manage individual payments and member statements of account in 
GnuCash. (Customer Reports)


While there are specialized invoicing apps and services, you could 
likely accomplish this with an office suit using a spreadsheet for the 
math and data, and a word processor to do a data & mail merge for the 
actual printable invoice. You then import a CSV from the spreadsheet 
into GnuCash with the invoice data.


See the Help & Guide for the CSV import template.

Regards,
Adrien

On 10/16/23 8:51 PM, Arek Skibicki wrote:
We are a small community organization and are just starting to use 
GnuCash.


We create invoices for our annual dues to each member.  It would make 
life much easier if we could print those invoices in bulk rather than 
going from one member to the next.  If there is such a feature, I 
haven't been able to find it.


I'm not a programmer, but I suspect the easiest way to accomplish 
this would be to start from the invoice register (revenue account) 
and printing all entries within a specified date range using one of 
the invoice templates.


Is this possible?


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Re: [GNC] Bulk invoice printing

2023-10-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Note, using an outside app like an office suite also has the benefit of 
*generating* lots of invoices very quickly via import, and avoiding the 
tedious steps to create them one-by-one in GnuCash.


Regards,
Adrien

On 10/16/23 9:30 PM, Adrien Monteleone wrote:

No, that won't work.

This is a long standing bug/enhancement request.

Your best bet is to use an outside invoice generating system, and then 
import the resulting transactions into GnuCash. You can then still 
manage individual payments and member statements of account in GnuCash. 
(Customer Reports)


While there are specialized invoicing apps and services, you could 
likely accomplish this with an office suit using a spreadsheet for the 
math and data, and a word processor to do a data & mail merge for the 
actual printable invoice. You then import a CSV from the spreadsheet 
into GnuCash with the invoice data.


See the Help & Guide for the CSV import template.


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Re: [GNC] Bulk invoice printing

2023-10-16 Thread Adrien Monteleone

No, that won't work.

This is a long standing bug/enhancement request.

Your best bet is to use an outside invoice generating system, and then 
import the resulting transactions into GnuCash. You can then still 
manage individual payments and member statements of account in GnuCash. 
(Customer Reports)


While there are specialized invoicing apps and services, you could 
likely accomplish this with an office suit using a spreadsheet for the 
math and data, and a word processor to do a data & mail merge for the 
actual printable invoice. You then import a CSV from the spreadsheet 
into GnuCash with the invoice data.


See the Help & Guide for the CSV import template.

Regards,
Adrien

On 10/16/23 8:51 PM, Arek Skibicki wrote:

We are a small community organization and are just starting to use GnuCash.

We create invoices for our annual dues to each member.  It would make 
life much easier if we could print those invoices in bulk rather than 
going from one member to the next.  If there is such a feature, I 
haven't been able to find it.


I'm not a programmer, but I suspect the easiest way to accomplish this 
would be to start from the invoice register (revenue account) and 
printing all entries within a specified date range using one of the 
invoice templates.


Is this possible?


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[GNC] Bulk invoice printing

2023-10-16 Thread Arek Skibicki

We are a small community organization and are just starting to use GnuCash.

We create invoices for our annual dues to each member.  It would make 
life much easier if we could print those invoices in bulk rather than 
going from one member to the next.  If there is such a feature, I 
haven't been able to find it.


I'm not a programmer, but I suspect the easiest way to accomplish this 
would be to start from the invoice register (revenue account) and 
printing all entries within a specified date range using one of the 
invoice templates.


Is this possible?

--

*Arek Skibicki*
*Treasurer*
*Sand Castle Community Association*

416-505-8991
705-533-3079

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Re: [GNC] Residual Processes After Closing GnuCash

2023-10-16 Thread Glenn Fowler
These are already built binaries so you don't have to build:
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/stable/


On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 2:48 PM R Losey  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:11 PM Glenn Fowler 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> These are builds that have commits that have improvements and bug fixes
>> that will be in the next release so my opinion is that they are better.
>>
>> However, the fix was done on Oct 2nd so if you want to grab the build from
>> Oct 3rd there are only a couple of language translations and one fix for
>> the stock assistant after the official 5.4 release:
>> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commits/stable
>>
>
> This sounds like a good idea to me, but is there a bit more information? I
> am not interested in building GnuCash, but I wouldn't mind downloading and
> installing 5.4 with the fixes mentioned.
>
> I've generally used 'git' for source code control, so I'm not sure where
> to find the "stable build" from these sources.
>
> Thanks,
> _
> Richard Losey
> rlo...@gmail.com
> Micah 6:8
>
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Re: [GNC] Residual Processes After Closing GnuCash

2023-10-16 Thread R Losey
On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:11 PM Glenn Fowler  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are builds that have commits that have improvements and bug fixes
> that will be in the next release so my opinion is that they are better.
>
> However, the fix was done on Oct 2nd so if you want to grab the build from
> Oct 3rd there are only a couple of language translations and one fix for
> the stock assistant after the official 5.4 release:
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commits/stable
>

This sounds like a good idea to me, but is there a bit more information? I
am not interested in building GnuCash, but I wouldn't mind downloading and
installing 5.4 with the fixes mentioned.

I've generally used 'git' for source code control, so I'm not sure where to
find the "stable build" from these sources.

Thanks,
_
Richard Losey
rlo...@gmail.com
Micah 6:8
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Re: [GNC] Residual Processes After Closing GnuCash

2023-10-16 Thread Fross, Michael
Thanks, I'll check them out.

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 12:10 PM Glenn Fowler  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> These are builds that have commits that have improvements and bug fixes
> that will be in the next release so my opinion is that they are better.
>
> However, the fix was done on Oct 2nd so if you want to grab the build from
> Oct 3rd there are only a couple of language translations and one fix for
> the stock assistant after the official 5.4 release:
> https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commits/stable
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Residual Processes After Closing GnuCash

2023-10-16 Thread Glenn Fowler
Hi,

These are builds that have commits that have improvements and bug fixes
that will be in the next release so my opinion is that they are better.

However, the fix was done on Oct 2nd so if you want to grab the build from
Oct 3rd there are only a couple of language translations and one fix for
the stock assistant after the official 5.4 release:
https://github.com/Gnucash/gnucash/commits/stable
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Re: [GNC] Residual Processes After Closing GnuCash

2023-10-16 Thread Fross, Michael
Hello Glenn, thank you for the suggestion.  I'm tempted to move to it,
however, as a daily build I'm wondering if it's safe enough to leverage
with something as important as my financial data.  I understand it's in the
stable daily build folder, but I get worried.

 Any thoughts?

Michael

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:57 AM Glenn Fowler  wrote:

> What I did is you can stay on v5.4 with that fix/patch by grabbing the
> latest build from here if you don't want to downgrade:
> https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/stable/
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:52 AM Maf. King  wrote:
>
> > On Monday, 16 October 2023 14:31:10 BST Paul Kroitor wrote:
> > >
> > > This started in 5.1 and I was told that it was a known issue from 5.1
> > > through 5.3, fixed in 5.4, but I am definitely running 5.4 (from a file
> > > called gnucash-5.4-1.setup from a file downloaded Oct 15th), and the
> > issue
> > > persists. Rebooting or killing the processes solves the immediate issue
> > but
> > > the behaviour remains.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > Hi Paul.
> >
> > My recollection is that this "ghost process" issue only came to light in
> > 5.4
> > for Windows.
> >
> > looking at bug https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799092 my read
> is
> > that
> > it is fixed for 5.5
> >
> > hth,
> > Maf.
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] Residual Processes After Closing GnuCash

2023-10-16 Thread Glenn Fowler
What I did is you can stay on v5.4 with that fix/patch by grabbing the
latest build from here if you don't want to downgrade:
https://code.gnucash.org/builds/win32/stable/


On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 9:52 AM Maf. King  wrote:

> On Monday, 16 October 2023 14:31:10 BST Paul Kroitor wrote:
> >
> > This started in 5.1 and I was told that it was a known issue from 5.1
> > through 5.3, fixed in 5.4, but I am definitely running 5.4 (from a file
> > called gnucash-5.4-1.setup from a file downloaded Oct 15th), and the
> issue
> > persists. Rebooting or killing the processes solves the immediate issue
> but
> > the behaviour remains.
> >
> >
>
> Hi Paul.
>
> My recollection is that this "ghost process" issue only came to light in
> 5.4
> for Windows.
>
> looking at bug https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799092 my read is
> that
> it is fixed for 5.5
>
> hth,
> Maf.
>
>
>
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Re: [GNC] Residual Processes After Closing GnuCash

2023-10-16 Thread Paul Kroitor
Yes, you're right.

Sorry for the confusion. I'll live with it until 5.5 comes out.

Paul

PS (afterthought):
I can't see how, if the bug is only in 5.4, both the bug reporter and I had
the 5.4 installer fail due to zombie processes (as 5.4 wasn't yet on our
systems).

Consider that it might instead be a side effect of some Microsoft change to
OneDrive, as there were major Windows Update changes to this box a few days
ago, just before I noticed the issue (in 5.1). 

The bug report history implies this is related to OneDrive, which is used a
lot on this system but my GnuCash files are explicitly NOT in a
OneDrive-backed folder. I continue to be suspicious of Microsoft trying to
absolutely everything in the cloud (the new Outlook warns you that switching
to it will cause all messages to be stored in the cloud, even for private
email servers).



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To: 'GnuCash User List' 
Subject: Re: [GNC] Residual Processes After Closing GnuCash

On Monday, 16 October 2023 14:31:10 BST Paul Kroitor wrote:
> 
> This started in 5.1 and I was told that it was a known issue from 5.1 
> through 5.3, fixed in 5.4, but I am definitely running 5.4 (from a 
> file called gnucash-5.4-1.setup from a file downloaded Oct 15th), and 
> the issue persists. Rebooting or killing the processes solves the 
> immediate issue but the behaviour remains.
> 
> 

Hi Paul.

My recollection is that this "ghost process" issue only came to light in 5.4
for Windows.

looking at bug https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799092 my read is
that it is fixed for 5.5

hth,
Maf.



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Re: [GNC] Residual Processes After Closing GnuCash

2023-10-16 Thread Maf. King
On Monday, 16 October 2023 14:31:10 BST Paul Kroitor wrote:
> 
> This started in 5.1 and I was told that it was a known issue from 5.1
> through 5.3, fixed in 5.4, but I am definitely running 5.4 (from a file
> called gnucash-5.4-1.setup from a file downloaded Oct 15th), and the issue
> persists. Rebooting or killing the processes solves the immediate issue but
> the behaviour remains.
> 
> 

Hi Paul.

My recollection is that this "ghost process" issue only came to light in 5.4 
for Windows.

looking at bug https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=799092 my read is that 
it is fixed for 5.5

hth,
Maf.



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[GNC] Residual Processes After Closing GnuCash

2023-10-16 Thread Paul Kroitor
I initially reported this in the development list but am told it should be
here instead (sorry!).

 

On Win 11 every time I open then close GnuCash, another process called
"GnuCash Program File (32-bit)" remains in the task manager's process list
(i.e. five executions results in five zombie processes).

 

This started in 5.1 and I was told that it was a known issue from 5.1
through 5.3, fixed in 5.4, but I am definitely running 5.4 (from a file
called gnucash-5.4-1.setup from a file downloaded Oct 15th), and the issue
persists. Rebooting or killing the processes solves the immediate issue but
the behaviour remains.

 

Thanks as always,

Paul

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