Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions do not appear in the register until is pressed
I agree Glenn. It used to do so. Regards, Christina Christina Martin Sent from my device, please excuse any typo's. On 4 October 2021 1:27:12 am Glenn Fowler wrote: Hi Christina, What you described is the same issue. The only difference is I am pressing and you are closing and reopening the register for the scheduled transactions to appear. The expected behaviour should be for the scheduled transactions to appear without user input in the register. On Sat, Oct 2, 2021 at 10:17 PM Christina Martin wrote: I have a similar problem, although I haven't tried entering a blank txn. Another user reported something similar back in February and I tried to add my $0.02 worth at the time, but two messages I sent didn't get through. In a nutshell, I save the registry, close and reopen it and the txns show up. Below is a copy of the information I tried to send in Feb, setting out the testing I had done. "I tried to send this response to the list 2 days ago, but I haven't seen it come in on the digest, so I must have done something wrong. I finally had time to sit down and do some testing and I'm covering things raised and suggested in a variety of digests up to Wed 10/2. This odd behaviour started when I was using the previous version, and I hoped that the upgrade to the 4.x series would fix it. I *think* I was still on 2.x when I upgraded last year, but I can't be certain of that (the manual update process means I tend to leave it for a while). For a variety of reasons that I don't wish to get into now, I decided to start a new file for the start of the Australian financial year on 1 July 2020. I can't remember exactly what I did except that it involved a blank copy of the original account tree. I then manually created all my scheduled transactions to match the original file. I don't know if that means that I've somehow imported an old error. I'm running GC 4.2 (build 4.2+(2020-09-26) on Windows 10 Home 64 bit OS (build 19041.746). The only filters I have set are to hide reconciled txns in each register, and the financial year for Australia. The first thing I've noticed is that I don't need to fully close GC to get the scheduled txns to display - closing and reopening the account is sufficient. I tend to keep all 4 personal accounts open all the time inside GC, so I guess I'd potentially have to close and reopen all 4, in which case, closing and reopening the entire file is easier. I have created a new scheduled txn from a dummy txn in my register. I left "Notify me when created ticked". I saved the file and then ran Actions -> Scheduled Txns -> Since Last Run... I cancelled the Since Last Run window that popped up. The txns did not display until I closed and reopened the account register although I could see that the balance in the register changed where the next txn should be showing up. When I click on OK at the Since Last Run window, the full details of the scheduled txns immediately show up in the register. If I click on the "Review Created Transactions" check box in the Since Last Run... window and click on OK, the two txns that should show up open in a new register window titled Created Transactions *and* I can see them immediately in the account register. David Carlson mentioned that he didn't know what I meant by GC telling me on start up how many scheduled txns it had created. My scheduled txns are *always* set to be Enabled (ticked) Create automatically (ticked) Create in advance 14 days ticked. I always disable Notify me when created (as I hadn't noticed until today that was an option to turn off in Edit -> Preferences -> Scheduled Transactions - in my defence, I last edited them several years ago). I created a new scheduled txn according to these parameters and I get a pop-up window on start up that says: "There are no Scheduled Transactions to be entered at this time. (2 transactions automatically created) -> Close" The txns will change the balance in the register, but the actual detail won't display until the account is closed and reopened. If I have "Notify me when created" checked, I get the Since Last Run window instead. All of my 30+ scheduled txns do *not* have this enabled - I do not need to be told what they are on start up, I just need them to show up in the register - and I have run it this way since very early on in using GC, it must be at least 10 years. The problem I'm seeing started some time in 2019 (or at the very latest, very early 2020). I'm vague about exactly when because it took a while to be certain I was seeing a consistent issue and not imagining it (since they eventually displayed). The last thing I tried was to turn off "Notify before transactions are created" in Edit -> Preferences -> Scheduled Transactions. I then went through the steps of creating and running a new scheduled txn only to find the same problem that the register balance chan
Re: [GNC] Scheduled transactions do not appear in the register until is pressed
I have a similar problem, although I haven't tried entering a blank txn. Another user reported something similar back in February and I tried to add my $0.02 worth at the time, but two messages I sent didn't get through. In a nutshell, I save the registry, close and reopen it and the txns show up. Below is a copy of the information I tried to send in Feb, setting out the testing I had done. "I tried to send this response to the list 2 days ago, but I haven't seen it come in on the digest, so I must have done something wrong. I finally had time to sit down and do some testing and I'm covering things raised and suggested in a variety of digests up to Wed 10/2. This odd behaviour started when I was using the previous version, and I hoped that the upgrade to the 4.x series would fix it. I *think* I was still on 2.x when I upgraded last year, but I can't be certain of that (the manual update process means I tend to leave it for a while). For a variety of reasons that I don't wish to get into now, I decided to start a new file for the start of the Australian financial year on 1 July 2020. I can't remember exactly what I did except that it involved a blank copy of the original account tree. I then manually created all my scheduled transactions to match the original file. I don't know if that means that I've somehow imported an old error. I'm running GC 4.2 (build 4.2+(2020-09-26) on Windows 10 Home 64 bit OS (build 19041.746). The only filters I have set are to hide reconciled txns in each register, and the financial year for Australia. The first thing I've noticed is that I don't need to fully close GC to get the scheduled txns to display - closing and reopening the account is sufficient. I tend to keep all 4 personal accounts open all the time inside GC, so I guess I'd potentially have to close and reopen all 4, in which case, closing and reopening the entire file is easier. I have created a new scheduled txn from a dummy txn in my register. I left "Notify me when created ticked". I saved the file and then ran Actions -> Scheduled Txns -> Since Last Run... I cancelled the Since Last Run window that popped up. The txns did not display until I closed and reopened the account register although I could see that the balance in the register changed where the next txn should be showing up. When I click on OK at the Since Last Run window, the full details of the scheduled txns immediately show up in the register. If I click on the "Review Created Transactions" check box in the Since Last Run... window and click on OK, the two txns that should show up open in a new register window titled Created Transactions *and* I can see them immediately in the account register. David Carlson mentioned that he didn't know what I meant by GC telling me on start up how many scheduled txns it had created. My scheduled txns are *always* set to be Enabled (ticked) Create automatically (ticked) Create in advance 14 days ticked. I always disable Notify me when created (as I hadn't noticed until today that was an option to turn off in Edit -> Preferences -> Scheduled Transactions - in my defence, I last edited them several years ago). I created a new scheduled txn according to these parameters and I get a pop-up window on start up that says: "There are no Scheduled Transactions to be entered at this time. (2 transactions automatically created) -> Close" The txns will change the balance in the register, but the actual detail won't display until the account is closed and reopened. If I have "Notify me when created" checked, I get the Since Last Run window instead. All of my 30+ scheduled txns do *not* have this enabled - I do not need to be told what they are on start up, I just need them to show up in the register - and I have run it this way since very early on in using GC, it must be at least 10 years. The problem I'm seeing started some time in 2019 (or at the very latest, very early 2020). I'm vague about exactly when because it took a while to be certain I was seeing a consistent issue and not imagining it (since they eventually displayed). The last thing I tried was to turn off "Notify before transactions are created" in Edit -> Preferences -> Scheduled Transactions. I then went through the steps of creating and running a new scheduled txn only to find the same problem that the register balance changes, but the detail doesn't display until the account is closed and reopened. It definitely seems that whether or not the Notification is set to show or not is key to the issue, but I have to reiterate that I didn't change how I handled my scheduled txns when I first started seeing it. I'm not sure what the next step here is." Regards, Christina Christina Martin Sent from my device, please excuse any typo's. On 3 October 2021 11:23:42 am gnu
Re: [GNC] Non-Scheduled Transaction ???/Scheduled Transaction Mystery
I tried to send this response to the list 2 days ago, but I haven't seen it come in on the digest, so I must have done something wrong. I finally had time to sit down and do some testing and I'm covering things raised and suggested in a variety of digests up to Wed 10/2. This odd behaviour started when I was using the previous version, and I hoped that the upgrade to the 4.x series would fix it. I *think* I was still on 2.x when I upgraded last year, but I can't be certain of that (the manual update process means I tend to leave it for a while). For a variety of reasons that I don't wish to get into now, I decided to start a new file for the start of the Australian financial year on 1 July 2020. I can't remember exactly what I did except that it involved a blank copy of the original account tree. I then manually created all my scheduled transactions to match the original file. I don't know if that means that I've somehow imported an old error. I'm running GC 4.2 (build 4.2+(2020-09-26) on Windows 10 Home 64 bit OS (build 19041.746). The only filters I have set are to hide reconciled txns in each register, and the financial year for Australia. The first thing I've noticed is that I don't need to fully close GC to get the scheduled txns to display - closing and reopening the account is sufficient. I tend to keep all 4 personal accounts open all the time inside GC, so I guess I'd potentially have to close and reopen all 4, in which case, closing and reopening the entire file is easier. I have created a new scheduled txn from a dummy txn in my register. I left "Notify me when created ticked". I saved the file and then ran Actions -> Scheduled Txns -> Since Last Run... I cancelled the Since Last Run window that popped up. The txns did not display until I closed and reopened the account register although I could see that the balance in the register changed where the next txn should be showing up. When I click on OK at the Since Last Run window, the full details of the scheduled txns immediately show up in the register. If I click on the "Review Created Transactions" check box in the Since Last Run... window and click on OK, the two txns that should show up open in a new register window titled Created Transactions *and* I can see them immediately in the account register. David Carlson mentioned that he didn't know what I meant by GC telling me on start up how many scheduled txns it had created. My scheduled txns are *always* set to be Enabled (ticked) Create automatically (ticked) Create in advance 14 days ticked. I always disable Notify me when created (as I hadn't noticed until today that was an option to turn off in Edit -> Preferences -> Scheduled Transactions - in my defence, I last edited them several years ago). I created a new scheduled txn according to these parameters and I get a pop-up window on start up that says: "There are no Scheduled Transactions to be entered at this time. (2 transactions automatically created) -> Close" The txns will change the balance in the register, but the actual detail won't display until the account is closed and reopened. If I have "Notify me when created" checked, I get the Since Last Run window instead. All of my 30+ scheduled txns do *not* have this enabled - I do not need to be told what they are on start up, I just need them to show up in the register - and I have run it this way since very early on in using GC, it must be at least 10 years. The problem I'm seeing started some time in 2019 (or at the very latest, very early 2020). I'm vague about exactly when because it took a while to be certain I was seeing a consistent issue and not imagining it (since they eventually displayed). The last thing I tried was to turn off "Notify before transactions are created" in Edit -> Preferences -> Scheduled Transactions. I then went through the steps of creating and running a new scheduled txn only to find the same problem that the register balance changes, but the detail doesn't display until the account is closed and reopened. It definitely seems that whether or not the Notification is set to show or not is key to the issue, but I have to reiterate that I didn't change how I handled my scheduled txns when I first started seeing it. I'm not sure what the next step here is. Regards, Christina Martin On 12/02/2021 12:35 pm, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote: -- Message: 6 Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 12:42:53 -0800 From: "Stephen M. Butler" To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Non-Scheduled Transaction ??? Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Did some additional testing as requested. 1.? If the Create Automatically is not checked, and it is time to fire (or past time in my tests) then user is presented the option to review the transactions
Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery?
FWIW for about the last 18 months to 2 years, mine will tell me on start up that it has created x number of scheduled txns. I can see the change in value in the register but not the actual txn. They didn't seem to actually display until something else happened and I could never figure out what the something else was. My work around is to start it, allow the scheduled txns to run, save it and close gnucash. When I reopen, everything is happy. Yes it's tiresome but it's working for me. I can't recall if this started occurring before the upgrade to 4.xx or not. Regards, Christina Message: 1 Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2021 16:00:59 -0500 From: "Derek Atkins" To: "Jack Slater" Cc: "John Ralls" , gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Scheduled Transaction Mystery? Message-ID: <19e311e6378fc91d60db8677af984288.squir...@mail2.ihtfp.org> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=utf-8 Do you have the SX set up to notify you on creation? If not, it could create without telling you. -derek On Thu, February 4, 2021 3:36 pm, Jack Slater wrote: Started it. Last Run Window did pop up and showed nothing. Closed it. No variables included. On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM John Ralls wrote: When you say you opened GnuCash, does that mean that you started it? Or has it been running since before 2 February and you switched to its window? If the former, when you started it for the first time did the Since Last Run window come up, what did it say about that transaction, and what did you do? Does the scheduled transaction have a variable that requires user input? Regards, John Ralls On Feb 4, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Jack Slater wrote: It should be listed in the register for sure regardless and I have not deleted it. I simply opened GnuC and looked and its not there. On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 12:42 PM Jean Laroche wrote: I think if you set it up to create x days in advance, when the transaction is created, the "last occurrence" is set to the day of the transaction (no to the day it was created). So that would explain why you see "Last occurrence 2/5/21". Is it possible that you somehow deleted the occurrence that was created? J. On 2/4/21 10:19 AM, Jack Slater wrote: Today is 2/4/21. Transaction scheduled for the 5th of every month. Looking at Scheduled Transactions, it reads Last Occurance 2/5/21. Transaction options are set to Create Automatically and Create 3 days in advance. No transaction listed in register. Seems pretty illogical to me. What am I missing? ___ ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
