[GNC] Are there any add-on modules for Gnucash

2019-02-21 Thread Harry Foerster
I'm currently running Gnucash 3.3 under Windows 10. Currently I would need
to do a large amount of manual entering/editing to record some investment
transactions I require. Are there any add-on modules available that
manipulate transactions and/or what programming language would be required
for my setup?

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Re: [GNC] Pension Fund

2019-02-14 Thread Harry Foerster
I also have asset accounts that tracked both personal and company pension 
plans. These I have keep and am withdrawing from them and depositing those as 
income into bank accounts. My personal pension plan is invested in mutual funds 
and as such have dividends, etc. required to be tracked to keep them current. 
The company pension plans is also being withdrawn and reducing to zero at which 
time the income will be designated as coming from an outside source other than 
the gnucash company pension plan account.

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From: gnucash-user [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+hfoerster=shaw...@gnucash.org] 
On Behalf Of rsbrux via gnucash-user
Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2019 9:16 AM
To: rsbrux via gnucash-user
Subject: [GNC] Pension Fund

I had created a couple of accounts to track the capital of (and 
contributions to) pension funds for myself and my wife.  Now we are 
drawing pensions from those funds, but cannot calculate our benefits as 
a simple draw-down of the capital.  I don't want or need the capital to 
appear in our accounting any longer.  The only information I could find 
in the GC documentation about pensions pertains to U.S. tax reporting, 
but this is not relevant for me. What is the correct way to handle (i.e. 
zero out) these accounts?

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Re: [GNC] Transferring portion of mutual fund account to another fund account

2019-02-06 Thread Harry Foerster
Hi. I've haven't finalized my method to accomplish the fund transfer at
cost, but it does involve selling the specified number of fund units, using
the lots utility and scrubbing. This will generate an orphan capital gain
which can then be used to calculate the cost basis for the specified units.
The entries from the scrubbing are then deleted from the account and the
sell transaction is modified with the value of the calculated cost basis.
The lot and scrubbing utility are again used and should produce a total
orphan capital gain of 0 and the proper entries and transfer to the other
account. This procedure will also create incorrect entries into the price
database for the respective mutual fund units, which should be deleted.

 I'm not quite finished looking into this but it seems to be the way to go
since scrubbing maintains the allotment of the units on a FIFO basis and
future transfers can be done on the remaining lots.

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Sent: February 6, 2019 7:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [GNC] Transferring portion of mutual fund account to another
fund account



On February 6, 2019, at 2:10 PM, cicko  wrote:

>Hi, Harry,
>What I do is simply create a transaction which subtracts shares from 
>one accounts and puts them into the other.
>This, of course, does not track the original prices. For that you'd 
>need to do something similar to what scrubbing does. Note that I don't 
>use scrubbing as I found it makes things worse for me rather than 
>better. To my understanding, scrubbing will work at all only if you 
>sell. It will then match the sold split(s) to the purchased split(s). 
>However, if you buy 10 units twice (10 + 10) at different prices, and 
>then sell (or move) 15 at once, I don't GnuCash will help you much in 
>keeping track of original purchase prices for the lot.

Cicko, you're wrong on this point. Gnucash does keep track of each of these
lots, and will calculate gains on the separate lots when you scrub lots. The
scrub function in this case will actually take your original sell
transaction and create lot-based sell splits, and then separate gains
transactions for each lot. I have found these transactions to be accurate
for mutual funds, where commissions and fees are not specified. With stock
sales, I get tripped up by the fees and commissions, which I manually adjust
after the fact. Some have noted that a user could record their stock
purchases in the same way (i.e., roll the fees into the purchase price) but
that rubs my sensibilities (such as they are) the wrong way.I

David


>In that regard, I'm also interested in what others are doing. For those 
>rare cases when I do sell, I created a Python script that performs
"scrubbing"
>in-memory and calculates the original prices for the lots but does not 
>write anything to the book. Then I can create transactions manually to 
>reflect the real life. I actually use it mostly for the accurate 
>calculation of the average purchase price as it takes into account only 
>the prices for the shares I actually own, assuming FIFO, of course.
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Re: [GNC] Transferring portion of mutual fund account to another fund account

2019-02-05 Thread Harry Foerster
It seems this email request has gone sideways a bit.

The actual transactions are being handled by the financial institutions
accordingly and reported to me in statements. I fully believe their
accountants are following the proper Canadian financial security laws.

The crust of my request for assistance was how I could personally record
these transaction into Gnucash; what steps or procedures does Gnucash have
to allow the transfer, on the cost basis, of units between accounts in
Gnucash. Any suggestions or hints on a path to follow is appreciated.
 

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From: gnucash-user  On
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Sent: February 5, 2019 8:58 AM
To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
Subject: Re: [GNC] Transferring portion of mutual fund account to another
fund account

On 2/4/2019 8:09 PM, David Carlson wrote:
> If you are in the US and both funds are within the same custodial 
> account the answer is trivial, just sell one and buy the other.  It 
> only matters when you withdraw cash.
>
> If you are somehow moving shares from one custodian to another, that 
> is more complicated.
>
> If they are non-custodial accounts ask your accountant.
>
> David Carlson
>
This (correct) answer points out that this was NOT a gnucash question but
rather a question about how to account for a transaction of this sort no
matter what was being used for the bookkeeping (even old fashioned pen and
ink on paper). The problem with questions of this sort is that while many of
us here do know the answer (and "allowed" to use that knowledge for our own
books, few if any of us hold the "credentials" allowing us to advise others.

That's why we have to say "ask your accountant".

Michael D Novack
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[GNC] Transferring portion of mutual fund account to another fund account

2019-02-04 Thread Harry Foerster
Hello I'm a recent user of Gnucash coming over from the Quicken world.

 

I would like to get some guidance on how to properly transfer a portion of a
mutual fund total units in account X into another mutual fund account Y. The
transferred units from account X are taken out on a FIFO basis and into
account Y maintaining the cost basis. This transfer is not a sale and
purchase and as such does not involve capital gains or losses.  I've looked
at the concept of lots and scrubbing but I'm uncertain on how the transfer
gets into the other account.

 

Thanks 

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