Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[Karen Stingel]

   I suppose the Account(s) would be most like case #2, they are
   individual Bank Accounts, with own Statements, and VISA enabled card as
   opposed to the old ATM card for withdrawing funds, no cheques - it was
   more or less the VISA bit that threw me

   On 2018-05-08 09:27, Mike or Penny Novack
   '[1]stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com' via 33Mail wrote:

 On 5/7/2018 10:53 AM, Karen Stingel wrote:

 Thanks everyone for the responses, that things cleared up a lot
 The reason for my original Query is that my bank actually calls
 these transaction accounts
 "VISA Debit" and I wasn't sure where in the Tree they should go, as
 VISA is usually a Credit
 account and therefore a Liability.
 Since I viewed them as regular Bank accounts (not all have their
 cards issued at this time),
 I have created them as BANK accounts, but I wanted to check that was
 the correct place in
 the CoA before starting a new Book.

 We could be of much more help (advice how to handle) if you were
 able to describe for us what you are talking about. There are
 different types (oh dear, that word again) of "debit cards". Here
 are some possibilities.
 1) You have a checking account. In addition to being able to write
 checks against this account you also have been issued a debit card
 against this account. This allows you to use the card for purchases
 that would otherwise require a credit card. The TOTAL limit on your
 card is the "funds available" in the account just like with checks
 but there may be a transaction size limit and a daily limit.
 Method -- no additional account involved. Treat transactions
 involving the card just as it they were checks except you probably
 lack a check number for them.
 2) Like "1" except you have no checks.
 Method -- handle like "1"
 3) Like "1" except not your bank account but a virtual account.
 Every month some agency adds an amount to your card balance. EBT
 cards, for example.
  Method -- I'd create an asset account for this even though it
 isn't really "mine" in the normal sense.
 4) Gift cards, pre-paid debit cards, refund cards, etc.  These might
 be restricted to a particular vendor.
  Method --- I'd create a "type" of asset for these as long as
 this is understood as simple a parent under assets in the CoA. I'd
 probably put pre-paid debit cards under current assets but might
 want to think hard about how to treat ones that were restricted as
 to use.
 Something else? Describe.
 Michael
  Method --

References

   1. mailto:stepbystepf...@dialup4less.com
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Re: [GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[Karen Stingel]

Thanks everyone for the responses, that things cleared up a lot

The reason for my original Query is that my bank actually calls these 
transaction accounts
"VISA Debit" and I wasn't sure where in the Tree they should go, as VISA 
is usually a Credit

account and therefore a Liability.

Since I viewed them as regular Bank accounts (not all have their cards 
issued at this time),
I have created them as BANK accounts, but I wanted to check that was the 
correct place in

the CoA before starting a new Book.


On 2018-05-08 00:32, David Carlson 'david.carlson@gmail.com' via 
33Mail wrote:


On Mon, May 7, 2018 at 1:32 AM, Karen Stingel <gnucash@kstingel.email 
<mailto:gnucash@kstingel.email>> wrote:


   How does gnc handle the Case of a VISA Debit card?
   Technically, this is a BANK account with a VISA enabled card and a
   $0.00 Credit Limit
   Should it just be created as a normal BANK account type?
   Are there any plans to include this as a new Asset Account type in
   future editions of gnc?
   Are Python Bindings enabled in the Windows binaries, and could this
   Account type be added via writing a Python script?
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Karen,

I do not give my debit card an account because I just use it as a 
plastic checkbook on my checking account.  Thus I just enter a 
transaction from the checking account, using a keyword 'Debit' in the 
check number box.


David C


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[GNC] Handling VISA Debit Accounts

[Karen Stingel]

This is a Fix of my previous thread ... Re: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 
182, Issue 8,

apologies for not clarifying the subject line last time.

How does gnc handle the Case of a VISA Debit card?
Technically, this is a BANK account with a VISA enabled card and a $0.00 
Credit Limit

Should it just be created as a normal BANK account type?

Are there any plans to include this as a new Asset Account type in 
future editions of gnc?


Are Python Bindings enabled in the Windows binaries, and could this 
Account type be added via writing a Python script?


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Re: [GNC] GnuCash 3.0 Crashing on "Find Bill"

[Karen Stingel]

thanks John

I downgraded from 3 to 2.6 and that seems to have resolved things for now
you were right, Windows can only manage one gnuCash instance at a time, 
installing 2.6 removed 3.0



On 2018-04-26 15:00, John Ralls 'jra...@ceridwen.us' via 33Mail wrote:
No, I don’t think it is. One could of course set one to install 
somewhere besides C:\Program Files (x86), but there’s no registry 
differentiation and I think Windows cares about that.


Regards,
John Ralls

On Apr 25, 2018, at 9:43 PM, kstingel > wrote:


Thanks for those links John

Is it possible to run both gnucash 2.6 and 3.0 on Windows 10? When I 
installed 3.0 the installer removed 2.6



On 2018-04-26 10:46, John Ralls 'jra...@ceridwen.us' via 33Mail wrote:



On Apr 25, 2018, at 12:12 PM, kstingel <33m...@kstingel.com 
> wrote:


I'm not sure if this error has been reported yet but after creating 
a new file and adding 4 Vendors and 3 Bills,

the "Find Bill" dialog is causing gnuCash (on Windows 10) to crash.

This is a new chart of accounts, with two account transactions ... 
a deposit and and a payment to a vendor which
at the time had no bills posted - I was trying to create an initial 
credit balance for my first posted invoice, which

appeared to work fine

I have completely restarted the PC, to ensure it wasn't a memory 
issue as I was referring to PDF copies of the invoices
- that didn't seem to help. So far I have only seen the crash when 
trying to find an unposted Bill so that I could post it.


To my knowledge, the only way to access unposted Bills is via the 
"Find Bill" subroutine, so the crash issue is proving very frustrating


EDIT switching from a file (xml) based account book to MySQL has 
allowed me to use "Find Bill" again


Yeah, there are two related bugs about this:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795031
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=795040

Regards,
John Ralls




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