Re: [GNC] Backports in Ubuntu? was: Ubuntu binary fairly dated
Disclaimer: I'm actually an Ubuntu developer (and a Debian Developer too!), though I'm not actually involved on the maintenance of the gnucash package :) On Sat, Dec 04, 2021 at 12:13:04AM +0100, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: > Am 03.12.21 um 22:19 schrieb Mike Brady: > > Have been following this thread because I use Linux Mint, which is based > > on the LTS version of Ubuntu. Yes, the GnuCash version in the Ubuntu LTS > > repository is way out of date (3.8). > > AFAIK the Ubuntu family is a branch of the Debian family. And Debian has > usually recent GnuCash versions in their Backports repos. That's not totally correct. Debian currently ships: Debian release gnucash release * 10 (oldstable) 3.4 * 10 (oldstable-backports) 4.4 * 11 (stable) 4.4 * 11 (stable-backports)-nothing- * 12 (testing) 4.6 * (unstable) 4.8 (this was literally uploaded today) > Q1: Offers Ubuntu no backports repos? It does. I just so happen (!) to be involved in the Backports team. Ubuntu backports have been basically not-functional for years now, but we have been re-bootstrapping the project. So, I suppose, I could see about backporting it to ubuntu focal-backports (20.04-bpo). But I'm currently very busy with other projects, so this won't happen extremely soon at least. > If the answer is No, Why? > Perhhaps worth to discuss with the Ubuntu user base? The place to discuss these things, rather than with the "user base" (what's that? ;) would be either ubuntu-devel-disc...@lists.ubuntu.com (for general stuff) or ubuntu-backpo...@lists.ubuntu.com (for the backports project specifically), both MLs require subscription. -- regards, Mattia Rizzolo GPG Key: 66AE 2B4A FCCF 3F52 DA18 4D18 4B04 3FCD B944 4540 .''`. More about me: https://mapreri.org : :' : Launchpad user: https://launchpad.net/~mapreri `. `'` Debian QA page: https://qa.debian.org/developer.php?login=mattia `- signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Backports in Ubuntu? was: Ubuntu binary fairly dated
I believe the original version of the script was posted by David Whiting on 2nd October - link to post - https://lists.gnucash.org/pipermail/gnucash-user/2021-October/097864.html Cheers David H. On Sat, 4 Dec 2021 at 13:14, brad wrote: > Later versions of Ubuntu are not too far out of date > 21.10: 4.4 > 21.04: 4.4 > > A month or so ago I was asking a similar question & someone posted a > script to build it. See attached (hopefully). It worked for me except > the location of the binary was a bit confusing. > > On 12/3/21 5:24 PM, Mike Brady wrote: > > Thanks. I might look at the Debian repos. But afaik, and as discussed by > > others in the thread, it appears that for Ubuntu the app versions are > > frozen to the main kernel versions. So unless some other method is used, > > we're stuck at 3.8 for Gnucash (for instance) until Mint upgrades or we > > can otherwise force a more current kernel version. With Mint, upgrades > > seem to happen every 2-3 years, so it's a long time to wait for app > updates. > > > > The other apps I mentioned (LibreOffice, Firefox, and Thunderbird) seem > > to have a way other than Flatpack to bypass the Ubuntu limitation. I > > don't really know how. Otherwise, we have to build from source to get a > > newer version; not the most user-friendly method, especially after using > > Windows for many years. > > > > -MIke > > > > On 12/3/2021 3:13 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: > >> Hi Mike, > >> > >> Am 03.12.21 um 22:19 schrieb Mike Brady: > >>> Have been following this thread because I use Linux Mint, which is > based > >>> on the LTS version of Ubuntu. Yes, the GnuCash version in the Ubuntu > LTS > >>> repository is way out of date (3.8). > >> : > >> > >> AFAIK the Ubuntu family is a branch of the Debian family. And Debian has > >> usually recent GnuCash versions in their Backports repos. > >> Q1: Offers Ubuntu no backports repos? > >> If the answer is No, Why? > >> Perhhaps worth to discuss with the Ubuntu user base? > >> > >> Regards > >> Frank > > ___ > > gnucash-user mailing list > > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > > - > > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Backports in Ubuntu? was: Ubuntu binary fairly dated
Later versions of Ubuntu are not too far out of date 21.10: 4.4 21.04: 4.4 A month or so ago I was asking a similar question & someone posted a script to build it. See attached (hopefully). It worked for me except the location of the binary was a bit confusing. On 12/3/21 5:24 PM, Mike Brady wrote: Thanks. I might look at the Debian repos. But afaik, and as discussed by others in the thread, it appears that for Ubuntu the app versions are frozen to the main kernel versions. So unless some other method is used, we're stuck at 3.8 for Gnucash (for instance) until Mint upgrades or we can otherwise force a more current kernel version. With Mint, upgrades seem to happen every 2-3 years, so it's a long time to wait for app updates. The other apps I mentioned (LibreOffice, Firefox, and Thunderbird) seem to have a way other than Flatpack to bypass the Ubuntu limitation. I don't really know how. Otherwise, we have to build from source to get a newer version; not the most user-friendly method, especially after using Windows for many years. -MIke On 12/3/2021 3:13 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: Hi Mike, Am 03.12.21 um 22:19 schrieb Mike Brady: Have been following this thread because I use Linux Mint, which is based on the LTS version of Ubuntu. Yes, the GnuCash version in the Ubuntu LTS repository is way out of date (3.8). : AFAIK the Ubuntu family is a branch of the Debian family. And Debian has usually recent GnuCash versions in their Backports repos. Q1: Offers Ubuntu no backports repos? If the answer is No, Why? Perhhaps worth to discuss with the Ubuntu user base? Regards Frank ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. build-gnucash.sh Description: application/shellscript ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Backports in Ubuntu? was: Ubuntu binary fairly dated
Thanks. I might look at the Debian repos. But afaik, and as discussed by others in the thread, it appears that for Ubuntu the app versions are frozen to the main kernel versions. So unless some other method is used, we're stuck at 3.8 for Gnucash (for instance) until Mint upgrades or we can otherwise force a more current kernel version. With Mint, upgrades seem to happen every 2-3 years, so it's a long time to wait for app updates. The other apps I mentioned (LibreOffice, Firefox, and Thunderbird) seem to have a way other than Flatpack to bypass the Ubuntu limitation. I don't really know how. Otherwise, we have to build from source to get a newer version; not the most user-friendly method, especially after using Windows for many years. -MIke On 12/3/2021 3:13 PM, Frank H. Ellenberger wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Am 03.12.21 um 22:19 schrieb Mike Brady: >> Have been following this thread because I use Linux Mint, which is based >> on the LTS version of Ubuntu. Yes, the GnuCash version in the Ubuntu LTS >> repository is way out of date (3.8). > : > > AFAIK the Ubuntu family is a branch of the Debian family. And Debian has > usually recent GnuCash versions in their Backports repos. > Q1: Offers Ubuntu no backports repos? > If the answer is No, Why? > Perhhaps worth to discuss with the Ubuntu user base? > > Regards > Frank ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Backports in Ubuntu? was: Ubuntu binary fairly dated
Hi Mike, Am 03.12.21 um 22:19 schrieb Mike Brady: > Have been following this thread because I use Linux Mint, which is based > on the LTS version of Ubuntu. Yes, the GnuCash version in the Ubuntu LTS > repository is way out of date (3.8). : AFAIK the Ubuntu family is a branch of the Debian family. And Debian has usually recent GnuCash versions in their Backports repos. Q1: Offers Ubuntu no backports repos? If the answer is No, Why? Perhhaps worth to discuss with the Ubuntu user base? Regards Frank ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
