Re: [GNC] Car loan with downpayment using a credit card

2019-01-05 Thread Maf. King
On Saturday, 5 January 2019 00:34:59 GMT Taymour A. El Erian wrote:
> > Message: 5
> > Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:59:55 -0600
> > From: Adrien Monteleone 
> > To: Gnucash Users 
> > Subject: Re: [GNC] Car loan with downpayment using a credit card
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> > 
> > When you imported transactions, were the downpayment(s) not part of that
> > download?
> > 
> > If so, how were they assigned on the other end of the transaction at
> > import?
> > 
> > Something that might help, if you aren?t already using it, is to turn on
> > Transaction Journal view in the View menu. You can also set this as a
> > default setting from Preferences. This will show you all splits in all
> > transactions at all times. One split will always be for the current
> > account
> > register you are viewing, the others will be for the other side(s) of the
> > transaction.
> > 
> > For each downpayment, you should have something similar to:
> > 
> > Cr. Assets:Checking OR Liabilities:Credit Card
> > Dr. Liabilities:Car Loan
> > 
> > Thus the three credit card payments would offset the Car Loan liability
> > with increases (credits) to the respective Credit Card liabilities, and
> > the
> > Cheque would reflect a decrease (credit) in your checking account.
> > 
> > Hope that helps.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Adrien
> > 
> > 
> > All the downpayments were part of the download, when I imported them I put
> 
> them in Liabilities:CC. All CC settlements were matched to Assets:Checking
> account and all that was before I added the loan and the car as an asset
> Now all down payments made on the CC show under Liabilities:Car loan so
> offsetting the car loan correctly but that is not the problem. The problem
> is the car as Assets:Car. I put the total car selling price as an Asset and
> I want to show the down payment but right now all CC payments show in
> Liabilities and my Assets:checking is decreasing by the bulk amount of CC
> settlement.

Hi,

If you've put the downpayments from the CC against Liab:CarLoan, then the 
initial opening balance of the Loan should be for the full value of the car.

therefore the opening loan transaction should be to increase the asset account 
by the full value of the car.

alternatively, re-book the CC transactions to Assets:Car, if the loan was only 
ever for part of the total value of the car.

HTH,
Maf.
  



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Re: [GNC] Car loan with downpayment using a credit card

2019-01-04 Thread Taymour A. El Erian
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2019 19:59:55 -0600
> From: Adrien Monteleone 
> To: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Car loan with downpayment using a credit card
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset=utf-8
>
> When you imported transactions, were the downpayment(s) not part of that
> download?
>
> If so, how were they assigned on the other end of the transaction at
> import?
>
> Something that might help, if you aren?t already using it, is to turn on
> Transaction Journal view in the View menu. You can also set this as a
> default setting from Preferences. This will show you all splits in all
> transactions at all times. One split will always be for the current account
> register you are viewing, the others will be for the other side(s) of the
> transaction.
>
> For each downpayment, you should have something similar to:
>
> Cr. Assets:Checking OR Liabilities:Credit Card
> Dr. Liabilities:Car Loan
>
> Thus the three credit card payments would offset the Car Loan liability
> with increases (credits) to the respective Credit Card liabilities, and the
> Cheque would reflect a decrease (credit) in your checking account.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
>
> All the downpayments were part of the download, when I imported them I put
them in Liabilities:CC. All CC settlements were matched to Assets:Checking
account and all that was before I added the loan and the car as an asset
Now all down payments made on the CC show under Liabilities:Car loan so
offsetting the car loan correctly but that is not the problem. The problem
is the car as Assets:Car. I put the total car selling price as an Asset and
I want to show the down payment but right now all CC payments show in
Liabilities and my Assets:checking is decreasing by the bulk amount of CC
settlement.
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Re: [GNC] Car loan with downpayment using a credit card

2019-01-03 Thread Adrien Monteleone
When you imported transactions, were the downpayment(s) not part of that 
download?

If so, how were they assigned on the other end of the transaction at import?

Something that might help, if you aren’t already using it, is to turn on 
Transaction Journal view in the View menu. You can also set this as a default 
setting from Preferences. This will show you all splits in all transactions at 
all times. One split will always be for the current account register you are 
viewing, the others will be for the other side(s) of the transaction.

For each downpayment, you should have something similar to:

Cr. Assets:Checking OR Liabilities:Credit Card
Dr. Liabilities:Car Loan

Thus the three credit card payments would offset the Car Loan liability with 
increases (credits) to the respective Credit Card liabilities, and the Cheque 
would reflect a decrease (credit) in your checking account.

Hope that helps.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Jan 3, 2019, at 7:06 PM, Taymour A. El Erian  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I am very new to GNUCash so bear with me. I have setup my assets (bank
> accounts, Car) and also my liabilities (Car loan, Credit Cards) and
> imported all the transactions from my banking institutions and credit cards
> too. I added the Car (asset and loan) later to the setup and now struggling
> to get the down payment made for the car to show under the asset.
> I made the down payment using 3 different cards and a cheque. As I said I
> added the car loan later after setting everything up and all accounts are
> balanced. Now I am trying to get those few months old down payment
> transactions to show as split under the asset so that my liability would be
> (total value - down payment - payments). Any help
> 
> 
> 
> *Taymour*
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Re: [GNC] Car loan with downpayment using a credit card

2019-01-03 Thread Stephen M. Butler
On 1/3/19 5:06 PM, Taymour A. El Erian wrote:
> Hi,
> I am very new to GNUCash so bear with me. I have setup my assets (bank
> accounts, Car) and also my liabilities (Car loan, Credit Cards) and
> imported all the transactions from my banking institutions and credit cards
> too. I added the Car (asset and loan) later to the setup and now struggling
> to get the down payment made for the car to show under the asset.
> I made the down payment using 3 different cards and a cheque. As I said I
> added the car loan later after setting everything up and all accounts are
> balanced. Now I am trying to get those few months old down payment
> transactions to show as split under the asset so that my liability would be
> (total value - down payment - payments). Any help
>
>
>
> *Taymour
Car Transaction #1:

Asset:Car:  DR -- full price of car
Liability:CC(s) -- CR amt put on card that totals to down payment
Liability:Loans:Car -- CR loan amount.

Asset:Car value = Liability:CC(s) value + Liability:Loan:car (original
loan amt)

[I would expect some expense accounts for licensing and other fees that
would be part of this first transaction}

Monthly payment transaction(s):

Expense:Interest paid  -- DR interest amount of payment
Liability:Loans:Car -- DR payment principle amount
Asset:Checking -- CR loan payment amount

Credit card payoff transaction(s):

Liability:CC(s) -- DR amount paid to each CC
Asset:Checking -- CR amount paid to each CC

Without checking with the house accountant <>, that's how I would
set it up.

--Steve

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[GNC] Car loan with downpayment using a credit card

2019-01-03 Thread Taymour A. El Erian
Hi,
I am very new to GNUCash so bear with me. I have setup my assets (bank
accounts, Car) and also my liabilities (Car loan, Credit Cards) and
imported all the transactions from my banking institutions and credit cards
too. I added the Car (asset and loan) later to the setup and now struggling
to get the down payment made for the car to show under the asset.
I made the down payment using 3 different cards and a cheque. As I said I
added the car loan later after setting everything up and all accounts are
balanced. Now I am trying to get those few months old down payment
transactions to show as split under the asset so that my liability would be
(total value - down payment - payments). Any help



*Taymour*
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