[GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
I wish to create a credit note in A/R and post it to an expense account. The only options I see are to post to an income, liability, or asset account, and I can well understand why, as in most business processes a credit note represents a negative income. The only work around I can find is to post to an intermediary account, for example a suspense account in liabilities, and then post out of that account in a second transaction to the expense account. Is there any other way? For background, it's for a member's club where all members are invoiced for membership and services in A/R, and sometimes members incur expenses on behalf of the club, which I wish to credit to their account and debit to the appropriate expense account. A credit note provides a nice document to provide them with. Thanks David Long ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
[GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
Adrien, Your advice of posting the member's expenses to a liability account (Dr expenses and Cr Liability account) and then posting out of that liability account via a credit note in the A/R system (Dr Liability account and Cr members receivable account) is exactly what I am doing and of course it works, but it means double the amount of transactions than if I could simply Dr the relevant expense account when creating the credit note. Unfortunately, the option of selecting an expense account at an item level when creating the credit note is not available, and I cannot think of a good reason why not, so shall ask for this enhancement. I think must be somewhere users can make such a request, so shall figure out how to do that. David -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org Sent: Sunday, 26 June, 2022 8:23 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 62 Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to gnucash-user@gnucash.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org You can reach the person managing the list at gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone) (davidvernonl...@gmail.com) 2. Re: Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone) (Adrien Monteleone) 3. Could Not Obtain Lock (Abe Sternberg) 4. Re: Could Not Obtain Lock (Glenn Fowler) 5. Re: Could Not Obtain Lock (Abe Sternberg) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:17:40 +0100 From: To: Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone) Message-ID: <002101d88978$42a91e10$c7fb5a30$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Adrien, In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account at an item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or liability accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I select the account. Please check and tell me if I have misunderstood. Best David Long -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org Sent: Sunday, 26 June, 2022 5:00 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 61 Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to gnucash-user@gnucash.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org You can reach the person managing the list at gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Credit note posting to an expense account (davidvernonl...@gmail.com) 2. Re: Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone) 3. Morningstar dumping free services, free quotes might be under attack? (David G. Pickett) ---------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 17:18:06 +0100 From: To: Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account Message-ID: <004101d888af$2727be40$75773ac0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I wish to create a credit note in A/R and post it to an expense account. The only options I see are to post to an income, liability, or asset account, and I can well understand why, as in most business processes a credit note represents a negative income. The only work around I can find is to post to an intermediary account, for example a suspense account in liabilities, and then post out of that account in a second transaction to the expense account. Is there any other way? For background, it's for a member's club where all members are invoiced for membership and services in A/R, and sometimes members incur expenses on behalf of the club, which I wish to credit to their account and debit to the appropriate expense account. A credit note provides a nice document to provide them with. Thanks David Long -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 13:32:18 -0500 From: Adrien Monteleone To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed The credit note should be posted to A/R, but the line it
[GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
Hi Michael or Penny Novack, you suggest "Have you tried creating an account of type income with a name like "credit note totals"? It would, of course tend to have a debit balance (negative with respect to other income accounts." I did think of that and it would work, but the accounts I wish to post to from the credit note are regular expense accounts like "repairs and maintenance" which members have paid for and claiming re-imbursement, which already exist as an expense account, so I would have to double up on the same account as an income account for repairs and maintenance for example. What's more, in Profit and Loss Reports the repairs and maintenance account would appear in 2 places, one as an expense and add into the total expenses, and one as a negative income, which would deduct from total income, which is not where it belongs. I shall ask for an enhancement to treat this correctly using the procedure Gyle McCollam explained. David -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org Sent: Monday, 27 June, 2022 5:00 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 66 Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to gnucash-user@gnucash.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org You can reach the person managing the list at gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Reports - Income Statement (Michael or Penny Novack) 2. Re: Credit note posting to an expense account (Michael or Penny Novack) 3. Re: GnuCash 4.11 Release (Kalpesh Patel) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:14:38 -0400 From: Michael or Penny Novack To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Reports - Income Statement Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 6/26/2022 10:20 PM, nev.je...@gmail.com wrote: > In Reports/Income & Expenses/Income Statements - Is it possible for > any account which has $0 transactions for the year to be eliminated or > just not printed? > > Thanks > > Neville Brown > And while you are at it (selecting zero balance accounts not to show) look at ALL of your report options. Actually, I am slightly surprised that you were not already going onto edit => report options because THIS report is always for between a range of dates so you would always be wanting to specify "start date" and "stop date". However, let me suggest something else. This is a report where you MIGHT want to first run with zero balances showing, look at the report to see if there were any UNEXPECTED zeroes, then rerun with zero balances suppressed << just change the option >> This is for roughly the same reason that I ran the reports "raw" and then hand editing after exporting. In other words, assuming not some kind of error (the unexpected zero) I'd be leaving that one showing with an annotation explaining why << like "the vendor who did the printing/postage for our annual meeting announcement hasn't sent an invoice yet" >> In other words, you want to see an UNEXPECTED zero amount as that is something you will want to look into to find out why. Michael D Novack ------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:25:09 -0400 From: Michael or Penny Novack To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > n 6/26/22 11:17 AM, davidvernonl...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi Adrien, >> In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account >> at an item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or >> liability accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I >> select This MIGHT be a slight misunderstanding about the difference between accounts of type "income" and "expense" (as well as how they are the same. Both are "temporary" accounts of fundamental type equity and differ only in the sense of their normal balances. Income accounts normally have a credit balance and expense accounts normally a debit balance. But you CAN have "contra" accounts. Have you tried creating an account of type income with a name like "credit note totals"? It would, of course tend to have a debit balance (negative with respect to other income accounts. Michael D Novack -- Message: 3 Date:
Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
The credit note should be posted to A/R, but the line item(s) in the note can be posted to expense accounts. Except for the reverse posting (credit vs. debit) they are the same as invoices & bills. Regards, Adrien On 6/25/22 11:18 AM, davidvernonl...@gmail.com wrote: I wish to create a credit note in A/R and post it to an expense account. The only options I see are to post to an income, liability, or asset account, and I can well understand why, as in most business processes a credit note represents a negative income. The only work around I can find is to post to an intermediary account, for example a suspense account in liabilities, and then post out of that account in a second transaction to the expense account. Is there any other way? For background, it's for a member's club where all members are invoiced for membership and services in A/R, and sometimes members incur expenses on behalf of the club, which I wish to credit to their account and debit to the appropriate expense account. A credit note provides a nice document to provide them with. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
David, Go to Help/About and click on the go to Visit GnuCash Website link. From there on the left side click on the bug reports under support. There you will find a place to submit enhancements. Thank You, Gyle McCollam Gyle McCollam gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com> email From: gnucash-user on behalf of davidvernonl...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 10:32 AM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account Adrien, Your advice of posting the member's expenses to a liability account (Dr expenses and Cr Liability account) and then posting out of that liability account via a credit note in the A/R system (Dr Liability account and Cr members receivable account) is exactly what I am doing and of course it works, but it means double the amount of transactions than if I could simply Dr the relevant expense account when creating the credit note. Unfortunately, the option of selecting an expense account at an item level when creating the credit note is not available, and I cannot think of a good reason why not, so shall ask for this enhancement. I think must be somewhere users can make such a request, so shall figure out how to do that. David -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org Sent: Sunday, 26 June, 2022 8:23 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 62 Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to gnucash-user@gnucash.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org You can reach the person managing the list at gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone) (davidvernonl...@gmail.com) 2. Re: Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone) (Adrien Monteleone) 3. Could Not Obtain Lock (Abe Sternberg) 4. Re: Could Not Obtain Lock (Glenn Fowler) 5. Re: Could Not Obtain Lock (Abe Sternberg) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2022 17:17:40 +0100 From: To: Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone) Message-ID: <002101d88978$42a91e10$c7fb5a30$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi Adrien, In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account at an item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or liability accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I select the account. Please check and tell me if I have misunderstood. Best David Long -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org Sent: Sunday, 26 June, 2022 5:00 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 61 Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to gnucash-user@gnucash.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org You can reach the person managing the list at gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Credit note posting to an expense account (davidvernonl...@gmail.com) 2. Re: Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone) 3. Morningstar dumping free services, free quotes might be under attack? (David G. Pickett) -------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 17:18:06 +0100 From: To: Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account Message-ID: <004101d888af$2727be40$75773ac0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I wish to create a credit note in A/R and post it to an expense account. The only options I see are to post to an income, liability, or asset account, and I can well understand why, as in most business processes a credit note represents a negative income. The only work around I can find is to post to an intermediary account, for example a suspense account in liabilities, and then post out of that account in a second transaction to the expense account. Is there any other way? For background, it's for a member's club where all members are invoiced for membership and services in A/R, and sometimes memb
Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
n 6/26/22 11:17 AM, davidvernonl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adrien, In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account at an item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or liability accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I select This MIGHT be a slight misunderstanding about the difference between accounts of type "income" and "expense" (as well as how they are the same. Both are "temporary" accounts of fundamental type equity and differ only in the sense of their normal balances. Income accounts normally have a credit balance and expense accounts normally a debit balance. But you CAN have "contra" accounts. Have you tried creating an account of type income with a name like "credit note totals"? It would, of course tend to have a debit balance (negative with respect to other income accounts. Michael D Novack ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account
David, Further info. Here is a url directly to the Bugzilla website for Gnucash: https://bugs.gnucash.org. You need to be registered, then you can log in. Once you log in the link is the 3rd of 5 on the left. You will find "enhancements" under the "severity" section. Don't file as a bug, because it is not considered that and it will only complicate things. Thank You, Gyle McCollam Gyle McCollam gmccol...@live.com<mailto:gmccol...@gyleshomes.com> email From: gnucash-user on behalf of davidvernonl...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, June 27, 2022 2:10 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account Hi Michael or Penny Novack, you suggest "Have you tried creating an account of type income with a name like "credit note totals"? It would, of course tend to have a debit balance (negative with respect to other income accounts." I did think of that and it would work, but the accounts I wish to post to from the credit note are regular expense accounts like "repairs and maintenance" which members have paid for and claiming re-imbursement, which already exist as an expense account, so I would have to double up on the same account as an income account for repairs and maintenance for example. What's more, in Profit and Loss Reports the repairs and maintenance account would appear in 2 places, one as an expense and add into the total expenses, and one as a negative income, which would deduct from total income, which is not where it belongs. I shall ask for an enhancement to treat this correctly using the procedure Gyle McCollam explained. David -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org Sent: Monday, 27 June, 2022 5:00 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 66 Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to gnucash-user@gnucash.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org You can reach the person managing the list at gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Reports - Income Statement (Michael or Penny Novack) 2. Re: Credit note posting to an expense account (Michael or Penny Novack) 3. Re: GnuCash 4.11 Release (Kalpesh Patel) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:14:38 -0400 From: Michael or Penny Novack To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Reports - Income Statement Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed On 6/26/2022 10:20 PM, nev.je...@gmail.com wrote: > In Reports/Income & Expenses/Income Statements - Is it possible for > any account which has $0 transactions for the year to be eliminated or > just not printed? > > Thanks > > Neville Brown > And while you are at it (selecting zero balance accounts not to show) look at ALL of your report options. Actually, I am slightly surprised that you were not already going onto edit => report options because THIS report is always for between a range of dates so you would always be wanting to specify "start date" and "stop date". However, let me suggest something else. This is a report where you MIGHT want to first run with zero balances showing, look at the report to see if there were any UNEXPECTED zeroes, then rerun with zero balances suppressed << just change the option >> This is for roughly the same reason that I ran the reports "raw" and then hand editing after exporting. In other words, assuming not some kind of error (the unexpected zero) I'd be leaving that one showing with an annotation explaining why << like "the vendor who did the printing/postage for our annual meeting announcement hasn't sent an invoice yet" >> In other words, you want to see an UNEXPECTED zero amount as that is something you will want to look into to find out why. Michael D Novack -- Message: 2 Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2022 11:25:09 -0400 From: Michael or Penny Novack To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed > n 6/26/22 11:17 AM, davidvernonl...@gmail.com wrote: >> Hi Adrien, >> In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account >> at an item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or >> liability accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income&quo
[GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone)
Hi Adrien, In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account at an item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or liability accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I select the account. Please check and tell me if I have misunderstood. Best David Long -Original Message- From: gnucash-user On Behalf Of gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org Sent: Sunday, 26 June, 2022 5:00 PM To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org Subject: gnucash-user Digest, Vol 231, Issue 61 Send gnucash-user mailing list submissions to gnucash-user@gnucash.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org You can reach the person managing the list at gnucash-user-ow...@gnucash.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of gnucash-user digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Credit note posting to an expense account (davidvernonl...@gmail.com) 2. Re: Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone) 3. Morningstar dumping free services, free quotes might be under attack? (David G. Pickett) -- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 17:18:06 +0100 From: To: Subject: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account Message-ID: <004101d888af$2727be40$75773ac0$@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I wish to create a credit note in A/R and post it to an expense account. The only options I see are to post to an income, liability, or asset account, and I can well understand why, as in most business processes a credit note represents a negative income. The only work around I can find is to post to an intermediary account, for example a suspense account in liabilities, and then post out of that account in a second transaction to the expense account. Is there any other way? For background, it's for a member's club where all members are invoiced for membership and services in A/R, and sometimes members incur expenses on behalf of the club, which I wish to credit to their account and debit to the appropriate expense account. A credit note provides a nice document to provide them with. Thanks David Long -- Message: 2 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 13:32:18 -0500 From: Adrien Monteleone To: gnucash-u...@lists.gnucash.org Subject: Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed The credit note should be posted to A/R, but the line item(s) in the note can be posted to expense accounts. Except for the reverse posting (credit vs. debit) they are the same as invoices & bills. Regards, Adrien On 6/25/22 11:18 AM, davidvernonl...@gmail.com wrote: > I wish to create a credit note in A/R and post it to an expense account. > The only options I see are to post to an income, liability, or asset > account, and I can well understand why, as in most business processes > a credit note represents a negative income. The only work around I > can find is to post to an intermediary account, for example a suspense > account in liabilities, and then post out of that account in a second > transaction to the expense account. Is there any other way? > > For background, it's for a member's club where all members are > invoiced for membership and services in A/R, and sometimes members > incur expenses on behalf of the club, which I wish to credit to their > account and debit to the appropriate expense account. A credit note > provides a nice document to provide them with. -- Message: 3 Date: Sat, 25 Jun 2022 20:43:24 + (UTC) From: "David G. Pickett" To: "gnucash-user@gnucash.org" Subject: [GNC] Morningstar dumping free services, free quotes might be under attack? Message-ID: <1656800926.185972.1656189804...@mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 As I looked at my publicly traded portfolio today on Morningstar, they told me they are dropping the free basic services.? It's a sad trend after so many years. I am worried we might lose some of our gnuCash free quote servers.? Of course, gnuCash perl quotes itself can only be modified by generous parties to chase new sources that may remain viable. -- Subject: Digest Footer ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/w
Re: [GNC] Credit note posting to an expense account (Adrien Monteleone)
David, sorry, you are correct. I'm not sure what I was thinking. Create a Liability account for this purpose. The member is spending on the Club's behalf and thus the Club 'owes' the member. I have one called 'Reimbursable Expenditures' Make a transaction to record the expense: Dr. Expense Cr. Reimbursable Expenditures Raise a credit note to reduce the Liability and reduce AR. (what the member owes) That should result in: Dr. Reimbursable Expenditures Cr. AR A 'customer' report should then reflect the net owed by the member. (or by the club if the expense was in excess of dues) Regards, Adrien On 6/26/22 11:17 AM, davidvernonl...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Adrien, In my version of GnuCash I am not able to select an expense account at an item level when creating the credit note. Only Income, asset or liability accounts. It's the 5th column entitled "income" where I select the account. Please check and tell me if I have misunderstood. Best David Long ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
