Re: [GNC] Monthly Payments on posted Liability?

2020-08-24 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
 Thanks Steve, Michael, and Adrian.Steve answered it, Adrian explained, and 
Michael made the point about interest and taxes. All good and helpful.


On Monday, August 24, 2020, 5:18:38 PM EDT, Michael or Penny Novack 
 wrote:  
 
 
>
> On 8/24/20 11:19 AM, Stan Brown wrote:
>> On 2020-08-24 09:01, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:
>>> For a posted liability of say $1,000with an agreement to pay in 10 
>>> monthly installments of $100 each.How do you enter those monthly 
>>> payments and...1 - have the payment applied to the liability

Also, something seems to have been left out. A liability of $1000 paid 
off by ten payments of $100 would mean this was a no interest loan.

More usually, you are paying interest. So some of each payment is a 
reduction of the liability and some interest expense. A split 
transaction. Even if this were a purchase on an installment contract (so 
no explicitly stated interest) strictly correct would be to assume what 
rate should be implied and enter the liability at this discounted 
amount. These days might not matter for personal finances but I bet it 
does for business since the interest would be a deductible expense.  
Mind, I have never looked at the "installment sales" or "installment 
purchases" parts of the1040.


Michael D Novack

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Re: [GNC] Monthly Payments on posted Liability?

2020-08-24 Thread Michael or Penny Novack




On 8/24/20 11:19 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

On 2020-08-24 09:01, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:
For a posted liability of say $1,000with an agreement to pay in 10 
monthly installments of $100 each.How do you enter those monthly 
payments and...1 - have the payment applied to the liability


Also, something seems to have been left out. A liability of $1000 paid 
off by ten payments of $100 would mean this was a no interest loan.


More usually, you are paying interest. So some of each payment is a 
reduction of the liability and some interest expense. A split 
transaction. Even if this were a purchase on an installment contract (so 
no explicitly stated interest) strictly correct would be to assume what 
rate should be implied and enter the liability at this discounted 
amount. These days might not matter for personal finances but I bet it 
does for business since the interest would be a deductible expense.  
Mind, I have never looked at the "installment sales" or "installment 
purchases" parts of the1040.



Michael D Novack

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Re: [GNC] Monthly Payments on posted Liability?

2020-08-24 Thread Adrien Monteleone

You can't get the individual payments to show up in the Bills Due Reminder.

You can set up a Scheduled Transaction, but set it only to remind you in 
advance, but not auto-create. (or at least set it to let you review and 
edit it when it does)


These reminders when then show up in the Since Last Run dialog. (auto on 
startup, or manually from the Actions menu)


If you've used the Business features to post that original liability, it 
will show up in the Bills Due Reminder, but with the original due date, 
(which could be the final date if you like) and will adjust the balance 
due as you make payments.


In this case, when you make payments, you just "Process Payment" for 
that vendor and fill out the payment window. The posting of the payment 
will be done for you and you can track your payments to that particular 
vendor easily with a Vendor report.


Regards,
Adrien

On 8/24/20 11:19 AM, Stan Brown wrote:

On 2020-08-24 09:01, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:

For a posted liability of say $1,000with an agreement to pay in 10 monthly 
installments of $100 each.How do you enter those monthly payments and...1 - 
have the payment applied to the liability


Debit:That liability
Credit:Your bank account

2 - have the monthly payment appear in the "Bills Due Reminder"3 - or
any report that shows you.. upcoming expenses, item by item for the
next x days... upcoming revenue, item by item for the next x days

Why not just set up the 10 times recurring payment with your bank's
bill-pay feature?

Then you can set up a 10 times scheduled transaction in GnuCash.



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Re: [GNC] Monthly Payments on posted Liability?

2020-08-24 Thread Stan Brown
On 2020-08-24 09:01, Fran_3 via gnucash-user wrote:
> For a posted liability of say $1,000with an agreement to pay in 10 monthly 
> installments of $100 each.How do you enter those monthly payments and...1 - 
> have the payment applied to the liability

Debit:That liability
Credit:Your bank account

2 - have the monthly payment appear in the "Bills Due Reminder"3 - or
any report that shows you.. upcoming expenses, item by item for the
next x days... upcoming revenue, item by item for the next x days

Why not just set up the 10 times recurring payment with your bank's
bill-pay feature?

Then you can set up a 10 times scheduled transaction in GnuCash.

-- 
Regards,
Stan Brown
Tehachapi, CA, USA
https://BrownMath.com
https://OakRoadSystems.com
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[GNC] Monthly Payments on posted Liability?

2020-08-24 Thread Fran_3 via gnucash-user
For a posted liability of say $1,000with an agreement to pay in 10 monthly 
installments of $100 each.How do you enter those monthly payments and...1 - 
have the payment applied to the liability2 - have the monthly payment appear in 
the "Bills Due Reminder"3 - or any report that shows you.. upcoming 
expenses, item by item for the next x days... upcoming revenue, item by item 
for the next x days
I ask because clicking Reports > Vendor > Process Payments seems to only look 
in AP... or does it?
Thanks for any help.

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