Re: [GNC] One Job - Many Customers

2021-09-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi Nora,

First, please remember to CC the list on all replies so that others can
chime in and help..

On Thu, September 2, 2021 5:09 pm, Nora wrote:
> Thanks Derek
>
> Are there any work-arounds - like treating the "job/program" as a purchase
> order???
> i.e. the customers are "requesting" a program?
> Nora

My understanding of what you are trying to do is combine invoices for
multiple customers into a single "project".  GnuCash does not do that, and
I cannot think of any way to use the business features to do that.

One thing you COULD do is have different A/R accounts "per project", and
then you would invoice each person towards the specific A/R account.  But
that implies each person is paying to one A/R (project) -- you cannot
split a single invoice across multiple A/R accounts.

The downside with this approach is that it is VERY easy to post to the
wrong account, and fixing that could be a lot of cleanup.

Another option is to completely forego the business features of GnuCash
and just enter the transactions in manually with useful descriptions for
you to filter on later.

You're right, though -- GnuCash does not have good "Project tracking". 
When I wrote the business features nearly 20 years ago it just wasn't
something that I ever needed, so I didn't build it in.  Honestly, I wrote
it for my (one-man) consulting firm.

Good Luck,

> Nora Zylstra-Savage
>
>
> Capturing Stories & Connecting Generations
> Writing Coach, Workshops & Content Editing
> www.story-lines.ca
> 519-853-1187


-derek

>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Derek Atkins [mailto:de...@ihtfp.com]
> Sent: September 2, 2021 1:44 PM
> To: Nora
> Cc: gnucash-user@gnucash.org
> Subject: Re: [GNC] One Job - Many Customers
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm afraid a Job is really misnamed -- it's really a "Puchase Order" -- a
> way to link multiple Invoices.
>
> GnuCash's invoicing system really doesn't do what you are asking for.
>
> -derek
>
> On Thu, September 2, 2021 1:31 pm, Nora wrote:
>> Hi User Group,
>>
>>
>>
>> I've just joined and set up my chart of accounts and am ready to process
>> jobs and customers etc.
>>
>> Currently you can have one customer to many jobs, But I want one job to
>> many
>> customers.
>>
>>
>>
>> My question:
>>
>> I run many different classes/programs/courses, each with several
>> students/customers attending.
>>
>> How do I set up the one  "program"/job  and then invoice or associate
>> all
>> the customers to that "program/job"?
>>
>>
>>
>> When I used quick books - I had one invoice to represent the program
>> associated to an income account, and just typed the names in a
>> description
>> field of the payees/attendees. The individual payments reduced the
>> invoice,
>> and I used the memo field to list who made the payment.  I want to get
>> away
>> from this as each person is only listed in the memo field and I can't
>> easily
>> reconcile with the bank by name.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks so much for your help!
>>
>> Nora
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Nora Zylstra-Savage
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Capturing Stories & Connecting Generations
>>
>> Writing Coach, Workshops & Content Editing
>>
>> www.story-lines.ca
>>
>> 519-853-1187
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [GNC] One Job - Many Customers

2021-09-02 Thread david whiting
Hi Nora,

Do you need to be able to produce invoices to send to the students, or
is your main concern tracking how much each student owes and has paid?
If you don't need to produce invoices I think you could do this by
setting up each student as an asset account and have each course as an
income account. You would then have transactions from the course to
the student to charge them fees for the course. This then allows you
to see how much each student owes (their account balance) and how much
each course has/will generate. Then when they make payments you will
have transactions from your bank account (assuming they are paying
into your bank account) to the relevant student account.

You can create student accounts by importing a csv file of accounts,
then create the fees transactions again by importing a csv file of
transactions, and finally import your bank transactions. If they use a
consistent reference for the transaction the importer will learn which
account the transactions need to go to and the process can therefore
be quite quick.

David

On Thu, 2 Sept 2021 at 18:44, Derek Atkins  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm afraid a Job is really misnamed -- it's really a "Puchase Order" -- a
> way to link multiple Invoices.
>
> GnuCash's invoicing system really doesn't do what you are asking for.
>
> -derek
>
> On Thu, September 2, 2021 1:31 pm, Nora wrote:
> > Hi User Group,
> >
> >
> >
> > I've just joined and set up my chart of accounts and am ready to process
> > jobs and customers etc.
> >
> > Currently you can have one customer to many jobs, But I want one job to
> > many
> > customers.
> >
> >
> >
> > My question:
> >
> > I run many different classes/programs/courses, each with several
> > students/customers attending.
> >
> > How do I set up the one  "program"/job  and then invoice or associate all
> > the customers to that "program/job"?
> >
> >
> >
> > When I used quick books - I had one invoice to represent the program
> > associated to an income account, and just typed the names in a description
> > field of the payees/attendees. The individual payments reduced the
> > invoice,
> > and I used the memo field to list who made the payment.  I want to get
> > away
> > from this as each person is only listed in the memo field and I can't
> > easily
> > reconcile with the bank by name.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks so much for your help!
> >
> > Nora
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nora Zylstra-Savage
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Capturing Stories & Connecting Generations
> >
> > Writing Coach, Workshops & Content Editing
> >
> > www.story-lines.ca
> >
> > 519-853-1187
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [GNC] One Job - Many Customers

2021-09-02 Thread Derek Atkins
Hi,

I'm afraid a Job is really misnamed -- it's really a "Puchase Order" -- a
way to link multiple Invoices.

GnuCash's invoicing system really doesn't do what you are asking for.

-derek

On Thu, September 2, 2021 1:31 pm, Nora wrote:
> Hi User Group,
>
>
>
> I've just joined and set up my chart of accounts and am ready to process
> jobs and customers etc.
>
> Currently you can have one customer to many jobs, But I want one job to
> many
> customers.
>
>
>
> My question:
>
> I run many different classes/programs/courses, each with several
> students/customers attending.
>
> How do I set up the one  "program"/job  and then invoice or associate all
> the customers to that "program/job"?
>
>
>
> When I used quick books - I had one invoice to represent the program
> associated to an income account, and just typed the names in a description
> field of the payees/attendees. The individual payments reduced the
> invoice,
> and I used the memo field to list who made the payment.  I want to get
> away
> from this as each person is only listed in the memo field and I can't
> easily
> reconcile with the bank by name.
>
>
>
> Thanks so much for your help!
>
> Nora
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Nora Zylstra-Savage
>
>
>
>
>
> Capturing Stories & Connecting Generations
>
> Writing Coach, Workshops & Content Editing
>
> www.story-lines.ca
>
> 519-853-1187
>
>
>
>
>
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[GNC] One Job - Many Customers

2021-09-02 Thread Nora
Hi User Group,

 

I've just joined and set up my chart of accounts and am ready to process
jobs and customers etc.

Currently you can have one customer to many jobs, But I want one job to many
customers.

 

My question:

I run many different classes/programs/courses, each with several
students/customers attending.

How do I set up the one  "program"/job  and then invoice or associate all
the customers to that "program/job"?

 

When I used quick books - I had one invoice to represent the program
associated to an income account, and just typed the names in a description
field of the payees/attendees. The individual payments reduced the invoice,
and I used the memo field to list who made the payment.  I want to get away
from this as each person is only listed in the memo field and I can't easily
reconcile with the bank by name.

 

Thanks so much for your help!

Nora

 

 

 

 

Nora Zylstra-Savage

 



Capturing Stories & Connecting Generations

Writing Coach, Workshops & Content Editing 

www.story-lines.ca

519-853-1187

 

 

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