Re: [GNC] Price editor

[Roger Lewry]

Thanks very much David. I am embarrassed I did not work it out for myself.

Roger
(from my phone)

On Sat, 27 Aug 2022, 14:53 David Carlson, 
wrote:

> Has the name changed?  Yes, it seems to be called Price Database now, but
> it is still the tool to edit, add and delete security prices.  Doesn't that
> work for you?
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 6:45 AM Roger Lewry  wrote:
>
>> Previously I have been able to update share and fund prices manually using
>> Price Editor which appeared in the Tools menu. It is no longer there, but
>> Price Database and Security Editor are there. I tried updating to version
>> 4.11 in the hope that this would solve the problem but it has not.
>>
>>
>>
>> I am using Microsoft Windows 10 Home 21H2. Please can anyone suggest a
>> solution for me?
>>
>>
>>
>> Roger
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Re: [GNC] Price editor

[Fred Bone]

On 27 August 2022 at 10:37, john said:

> Yes, we changed the name in 2.6.11 to make clear the difference between
> the price database window and the price editor dialog. The latter is
> opened with the Add and Edit buttons on the former.

Eh? I have 2.6.21 and the Tools menu item is "Price Editor". Which brings 
up the "Price Database" window.


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Re: [GNC] Price editor

[john]

Yes, we changed the name in 2.6.11 to make clear the difference between the 
price database window and the price editor dialog. The latter is opened with 
the Add and Edit buttons on the former.

Regards,
John Ralls


> On Aug 27, 2022, at 6:53 AM, David Carlson  
> wrote:
> 
> Has the name changed?  Yes, it seems to be called Price Database now, but
> it is still the tool to edit, add and delete security prices.  Doesn't that
> work for you?
> 
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 6:45 AM Roger Lewry  wrote:
> 
>> Previously I have been able to update share and fund prices manually using
>> Price Editor which appeared in the Tools menu. It is no longer there, but
>> Price Database and Security Editor are there. I tried updating to version
>> 4.11 in the hope that this would solve the problem but it has not.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I am using Microsoft Windows 10 Home 21H2. Please can anyone suggest a
>> solution for me?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Roger
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Re: [GNC] Price editor

[David Carlson]

Has the name changed?  Yes, it seems to be called Price Database now, but
it is still the tool to edit, add and delete security prices.  Doesn't that
work for you?

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 6:45 AM Roger Lewry  wrote:

> Previously I have been able to update share and fund prices manually using
> Price Editor which appeared in the Tools menu. It is no longer there, but
> Price Database and Security Editor are there. I tried updating to version
> 4.11 in the hope that this would solve the problem but it has not.
>
>
>
> I am using Microsoft Windows 10 Home 21H2. Please can anyone suggest a
> solution for me?
>
>
>
> Roger
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[GNC] Price editor

[Roger Lewry]

Previously I have been able to update share and fund prices manually using
Price Editor which appeared in the Tools menu. It is no longer there, but
Price Database and Security Editor are there. I tried updating to version
4.11 in the hope that this would solve the problem but it has not.

 

I am using Microsoft Windows 10 Home 21H2. Please can anyone suggest a
solution for me?

 

Roger

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Re: [GNC] Price editor uses old entry

[Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user]

Am Samstag, 6. November 2021, 03:51:55 CET schrieb john:
> > On Nov 5, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Rainer Dorsch  wrote:
> > 
> > Am Freitag, 5. November 2021, 16:39:28 CET schrieben Sie:
> >>> On Nov 5, 2021, at 4:22 AM, Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi,
> >>> 
> >>> I noticed that if the price editor has an entry in EUR and an entry in
> >>> USD, it used the EUR entry, even if the USD entry has a newer date. My
> >>> account currency is EUR.
> >>> 
> >>> Is that intended and is there an option to change this behavior?
> >>> 
> >>> I usually get the EUR entry, if I buy or sell stock or funds, which are
> >>> accounted in USD.
> >> 
> >> GnuCash always prefers a direct conversion over an indirect one
> >> regardless
> >> of the date. It's not optional. I suppose the problem arises because
> >> you're
> >> trading USD-priced stocks from an EUR-denominated brokerage account and
> >> the
> >> trades create the EUR prices. The simplest work around is to remove those
> >> EUR prices from the pricedb; it won't affect the transaction or reports
> >> using the average-cost price source. To avoid the problem going forward
> >> create an intermediary USD bank account in your brokerage account
> >> hierarchy
> >> and when recording the trade make separate splits for USD<->EUR and
> >> stock<->USD. Chris Lam is working on a stock trading assistant to make
> >> this
> >> a bit less cumbersome; we hope it will be finished in time for GnuCash 5.
> > 
> > Thanks John for your quick reply.
> > 
> > The scenario you describe matches well my use case.
> > 
> > Yes, I manually delete the EUR entries in the pricedb
> > 
> > I am looking forward to the stock trading assistant.
> > 
> > Can you tell why GnuCash always prefers a direct conversion over an
> > indirect one regardless of the date? Is this a bug or a feature :-) ?
> 
> Please remember to copy the list on all replies.

I remembered immediately and resent it also to the list.

The current implementation works well for me, just have to remember that for 
each new transaction (could also be earnings), I need to delete the "new 
price" from the price editor otherwise I lose my quote updates silently. I 
just wanted to find out if I am doing something wrong.

But I have to admit: from a pure user perspective, all the arguments given so 
far, do not convince me at all. I thought it might be useful to share it since 
there might be more users which have by far not the experience with accounting 
tools and insight in the gnucash implementation, which you have.

> I don't think it's either a bug or a feature that GnuCash prefers direct
> conversion, it's just a more efficient way to find a price given the way
> price database is arranged in a sort of tree structure of linked lists.

Frank worte:
> you will end in very complex scenarios of the graph theory:
> multiple pathes with different costs.

When I read this first, I was not sure if the comment was pure irony or if it 
was serious. Since Johns argument is similar, I assume it is serious:

The price editor manages to sort the quotes by date, so there must be already 
code which does that :-)

David wrote:
> When a transaction has an embedded price Gnucash assumes that it is a
> purchase or sale and the price is exact for that trade.   Quotes are
> generally assumed to be estimates, therefore somewhat soft like newspaper
> quotes.

I which usecase would I be more interested in an exact historic price than in 
a current estimate?

As written before, with the current implementation there are workarounds for 
me, just wanted to give my humble user perspective.

Thanks for keeping gnucash up to date and running for so many years!
Rainer

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Re: [GNC] Price editor uses old entry

[john]

> On Nov 5, 2021, at 1:48 PM, Rainer Dorsch  wrote:
> 
> Am Freitag, 5. November 2021, 16:39:28 CET schrieben Sie:
>>> On Nov 5, 2021, at 4:22 AM, Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I noticed that if the price editor has an entry in EUR and an entry in
>>> USD, it used the EUR entry, even if the USD entry has a newer date. My
>>> account currency is EUR.
>>> 
>>> Is that intended and is there an option to change this behavior?
>>> 
>>> I usually get the EUR entry, if I buy or sell stock or funds, which are
>>> accounted in USD.
>> 
>> GnuCash always prefers a direct conversion over an indirect one regardless
>> of the date. It's not optional. I suppose the problem arises because you're
>> trading USD-priced stocks from an EUR-denominated brokerage account and the
>> trades create the EUR prices. The simplest work around is to remove those
>> EUR prices from the pricedb; it won't affect the transaction or reports
>> using the average-cost price source. To avoid the problem going forward
>> create an intermediary USD bank account in your brokerage account hierarchy
>> and when recording the trade make separate splits for USD<->EUR and
>> stock<->USD. Chris Lam is working on a stock trading assistant to make this
>> a bit less cumbersome; we hope it will be finished in time for GnuCash 5.
>> 
> 
> Thanks John for your quick reply.
> 
> The scenario you describe matches well my use case.
> 
> Yes, I manually delete the EUR entries in the pricedb
> 
> I am looking forward to the stock trading assistant.
> 
> Can you tell why GnuCash always prefers a direct conversion over an indirect 
> one regardless of the date? Is this a bug or a feature :-) ?
> 

Please remember to copy the list on all replies.

I don't think it's either a bug or a feature that GnuCash prefers direct 
conversion, it's just a more efficient way to find a price given the way price 
database is arranged in a sort of tree structure of linked lists.

Regards,
John Ralls


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Re: [GNC] Price editor uses old entry

[David Carlson]

Perhaps something was lost in translation.   When a transaction has an
embedded price Gnucash assumes that it is a purchase or sale and the price
is exact for that trade.   Quotes are generally assumed to be estimates,
therefore somewhat soft like newspaper quotes.

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021, 5:57 PM Frank H. Ellenberger <
frank.h.ellenber...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Am 05.11.21 um 21:48 schrieb Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user:
> > Can you tell why GnuCash always prefers a direct conversion over an
> indirect
> > one regardless of the date? Is this a bug or a feature :-) ?
>
> you will end in very complex scenarios of the graph theory:
> multiple pathes with different costs.
>
> Regards
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Re: [GNC] Price editor uses old entry

[Frank H. Ellenberger]

Hi,

Am 05.11.21 um 21:48 schrieb Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user:
> Can you tell why GnuCash always prefers a direct conversion over an indirect 
> one regardless of the date? Is this a bug or a feature :-) ?

you will end in very complex scenarios of the graph theory:
multiple pathes with different costs.

Regards
Frank
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Re: [GNC] Price editor uses old entry

[Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user]

Am Freitag, 5. November 2021, 16:39:28 CET schrieben Sie:
> > On Nov 5, 2021, at 4:22 AM, Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I noticed that if the price editor has an entry in EUR and an entry in
> > USD, it used the EUR entry, even if the USD entry has a newer date. My
> > account currency is EUR.
> > 
> > Is that intended and is there an option to change this behavior?
> > 
> > I usually get the EUR entry, if I buy or sell stock or funds, which are
> > accounted in USD.
> 
> GnuCash always prefers a direct conversion over an indirect one regardless
> of the date. It's not optional. I suppose the problem arises because you're
> trading USD-priced stocks from an EUR-denominated brokerage account and the
> trades create the EUR prices. The simplest work around is to remove those
> EUR prices from the pricedb; it won't affect the transaction or reports
> using the average-cost price source. To avoid the problem going forward
> create an intermediary USD bank account in your brokerage account hierarchy
> and when recording the trade make separate splits for USD<->EUR and
> stock<->USD. Chris Lam is working on a stock trading assistant to make this
> a bit less cumbersome; we hope it will be finished in time for GnuCash 5.
> 

Thanks John for your quick reply.

The scenario you describe matches well my use case.

Yes, I manually delete the EUR entries in the pricedb

I am looking forward to the stock trading assistant.

Can you tell why GnuCash always prefers a direct conversion over an indirect 
one regardless of the date? Is this a bug or a feature :-) ?

Thanks
Rainer

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Re: [GNC] Price editor uses old entry

[john]

> On Nov 5, 2021, at 4:22 AM, Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I noticed that if the price editor has an entry in EUR and an entry in USD, 
> it 
> used the EUR entry, even if the USD entry has a newer date. My account 
> currency is EUR.
> 
> Is that intended and is there an option to change this behavior?
> 
> I usually get the EUR entry, if I buy or sell stock or funds, which are 
> accounted in USD.

GnuCash always prefers a direct conversion over an indirect one regardless of 
the date. It's not optional. I suppose the problem arises because you're 
trading USD-priced stocks from an EUR-denominated brokerage account and the 
trades create the EUR prices. The simplest work around is to remove those EUR 
prices from the pricedb; it won't affect the transaction or reports using the 
average-cost price source. To avoid the problem going forward create an 
intermediary USD bank account in your brokerage account hierarchy and when 
recording the trade make separate splits for USD<->EUR and stock<->USD. Chris 
Lam is working on a stock trading assistant to make this a bit less cumbersome; 
we hope it will be finished in time for GnuCash 5.

Regards,
John Ralls

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[GNC] Price editor uses old entry

[Rainer Dorsch via gnucash-user]

Hi,

I noticed that if the price editor has an entry in EUR and an entry in USD, it 
used the EUR entry, even if the USD entry has a newer date. My account 
currency is EUR.

Is that intended and is there an option to change this behavior?

I usually get the EUR entry, if I buy or sell stock or funds, which are 
accounted in USD.

Thanks
Rainer

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Re: [GNC] Price Editor

[Les]

I switched to AlphaVantage as per Adrien and all is good.

Thanks,

Les

On 3/12/20 1:52 PM, David Carlson wrote:

I noticed this too on 2.6.19 in Ubuntu.  If I wait for an hour and come
back I find that it completed. I susect that Yahoo is rate limiting due to
crazy market conditions.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:09 AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:


Might be a Yahoo problem. AlphaAdvantage worked fine for me just now.

Check your tracefile before restarting GnuCash and/or run from the command
line to see if you get any warnings or errors output to a terminal. See the
wiki for more instructions if you aren’t familiar with either.

Regards,
Adrien


On Mar 12, 2020 w11d72, at 9:29 AM, Les  wrote:

What has happened to Price Editor?  For the last 3 days, when prompted

to obtain quotes, the app displays a timer which I end up having to force
GC to close.  Prior to this Price Editor worked as advertised.  I only have
quote requests for 2 currencies and 4 AMEX accounts.

Linux Mint 19.1 and GC 3.8.  Requests are via Yahoo as JSON.

Thanks,

Les

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Re: [GNC] Price Editor

[David Carlson]

I noticed this too on 2.6.19 in Ubuntu.  If I wait for an hour and come
back I find that it completed. I susect that Yahoo is rate limiting due to
crazy market conditions.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:09 AM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> Might be a Yahoo problem. AlphaAdvantage worked fine for me just now.
>
> Check your tracefile before restarting GnuCash and/or run from the command
> line to see if you get any warnings or errors output to a terminal. See the
> wiki for more instructions if you aren’t familiar with either.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> > On Mar 12, 2020 w11d72, at 9:29 AM, Les  wrote:
> >
> > What has happened to Price Editor?  For the last 3 days, when prompted
> to obtain quotes, the app displays a timer which I end up having to force
> GC to close.  Prior to this Price Editor worked as advertised.  I only have
> quote requests for 2 currencies and 4 AMEX accounts.
> >
> > Linux Mint 19.1 and GC 3.8.  Requests are via Yahoo as JSON.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Les
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Re: [GNC] Price Editor

[Adrien Monteleone]

Might be a Yahoo problem. AlphaAdvantage worked fine for me just now.

Check your tracefile before restarting GnuCash and/or run from the command line 
to see if you get any warnings or errors output to a terminal. See the wiki for 
more instructions if you aren’t familiar with either.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Mar 12, 2020 w11d72, at 9:29 AM, Les  wrote:
> 
> What has happened to Price Editor?  For the last 3 days, when prompted to 
> obtain quotes, the app displays a timer which I end up having to force GC to 
> close.  Prior to this Price Editor worked as advertised.  I only have quote 
> requests for 2 currencies and 4 AMEX accounts.
> 
> Linux Mint 19.1 and GC 3.8.  Requests are via Yahoo as JSON.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Les

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[GNC] Price Editor

[Les]

What has happened to Price Editor?  For the last 3 days, when prompted 
to obtain quotes, the app displays a timer which I end up having to 
force GC to close.  Prior to this Price Editor worked as advertised.  I 
only have quote requests for 2 currencies and 4 AMEX accounts.


Linux Mint 19.1 and GC 3.8.  Requests are via Yahoo as JSON.

Thanks,

Les


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Re: [GNC] Price Editor Problems

[Eric Coates]

Dave

My comments are in-line:

On 14/05/2019 09:07, DaveW wrote:


I modified the AlphaVantge.pm file as you suggested.  That it was a
read-only file I had quite a lot of problems saving the modification.
For want of a better solution I resorted to use Master Commander, (sudo
mc), simply because I don't know how to open a file as Root.  What is a
better method???


The way I edit "system" files is:
(1) Find the file I want to edit. I find that the Terminal command
   locate / AlphaVantage.pm   (or whatever the file name is) is far 
more useful than the find file button in the graphical interface
(2) Using the graphical interface open the directory that contains the 
file (slightly counter-intuitive but hang on!)

(3) Right click in a blank area of the display and select
   Open In Terminal
(4) Optional (but a good idea!) check you're in the right place by 
giving the command   ls   and confirm that Alphavantage.pm appears in 
the output
(5) Give the command   sudo nano AlphaVantage.pm   nano is a generally 
available, simple(ish) text editor.

(6) Make the necessary changes.
(7) Write out the modified file using   CTRL+O   (it'll ask whether you 
want to overwrite the file, just click ENTER)

(8) Exit nano by keyingCTRL+X
(9) Close the Terminal
(10) Job done - well for me it was!
Whether it's better than Master Commander I don't know having never used 
the latter (or ever even hearing of it!), I suppose that's a matter of 
personal choice.



Yes I confirrmed I have an API key.


That's good - without you ain't going nowhere! (A colloquial expression 
which means exactly the opposite of what it says - but, at least, it 
does allow me to use the word "colloquial"))



But . . . when setting up the Securities, in the "Get online quotes
section, I run into trouble again.  My securities are all on the
Australian Stock Exchange (ASX).  The only AlphaVantage selection
available is AlphaVantage US. I now don't know quite how to set up the
Get Online Quotes section.  I have tried a few of the many
combinations of selections to no avail.


It appears that what was AlphaVantage in the "Unknown" section of the 
Edit Security window has been renamed as AlphaVantage, US in the 
"Single" section (I don't know why). For me - and my UK shares - 
choosing AlphaVantage, US gave me all the information I needed (I don't 
know why - some things I just accept). Try it, it may work for ASX 
shares as well - we can but hope.



Can you help me further please.  What other information should I
provide?


Hopefully, that's sufficient for you

Best wishes

Eric
=

On Sat, 11 May 2019 11:20:11 +0100
Eric Coates  wrote:


My apologies.

I am going to swear!

The message below is not the one I sent; lots of asterixes have been
added, to get the correct message remove all of them (and if you want
to see the original, enbolden the text they delineate)

I was trying to make the text more readable by emphasising the
important bits - I'm going to have to rethink how that's possible.

Eric




On 11/05/2019 11:12, Eric Coates wrote:

Hi (again!)

OK, if you had AlphaVantage working at some time you'll have an
AlphAvantage API key.

(In GnuCash 3.5 you can confirm this by going through*Edit >
Preferences > Online Quotes *and confirming that the key appears
there)

It sounds as if you've hit the problem with AlphaVantage throttling
the queries; the way to overcome this is to modify the file
*AlphaVantage.pm.* I had problems finding the correct file to
modify but I think in Ubuntu 18.04 it is
at*/usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance/Quote*; in 19.04 it's at
*usr/share/perl5/Finance/Quote/AlphaVantage.pm*. Or, to be more
exact, that's where it was/is on my system; if it's not there a
hint (given by John Ralls a while ago) is to look in the
*/etc/share* directory and look in folders called perl or perl5.

Having found the file it needs to be modified to add in a delay
that overcomes the throttling problem. Very close to the end of the
file there is a line

*select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity);*

(although, to be honest, I can't swear that the final semi-colon
appears) that needs to be modified to read

*select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity); sleep(15);*

(the modified line does need the semi-colon).

It took me some time to gather the courage to go in and modify a
"system" file; if you share my discomfort I can provide some
guidance on how to do it.

Best wishes

Eric
**


On 11/05/2019 02:18, DaveW wrote:

Where, please, can I get wo-to-go instructions to get my stock
Price Editor (Re)working??

I am running Ubuntu 18.04.  GNC ver 3.5.  My stock is all on the
ASX (Australia).  Things worked wonderfully until the Yahoo demise
and then for a while I was able to use Alphvantage but that
stopped too.

I have tried all sorts of fixes randomly and fear I have completely
confused GNC in the process.

I would greatly appreciate some step by step assistance.

Dave W

Re: [GNC] Price Editor Problems

[DaveW]

Thank you Eric,

I modified the AlphaVantge.pm file as you suggested.  That it was a
read-only file I had quite a lot of problems saving the modification.
For want of a better solution I resorted to use Master Commander, (sudo
mc), simply because I don't know how to open a file as Root.  What is a
better method???

Yes I confirrmed I have an API key.

But . . . when setting up the Securities, in the "Get online quotes
section, I run into trouble again.  My securities are all on the
Australian Stock Exchange (ASX).  The only AlphaVantage selection
available is AlphaVantage US. I now don't know quite how to set up the
Get Online Quotes section.  I have tried a few of the many
combinations of selections to no avail.

Can you help me further please.  What other information should I
provide?

Dave W





On Sat, 11 May 2019 11:20:11 +0100
Eric Coates  wrote:

> My apologies.
> 
> I am going to swear!
> 
> The message below is not the one I sent; lots of asterixes have been 
> added, to get the correct message remove all of them (and if you want
> to see the original, enbolden the text they delineate)
> 
> I was trying to make the text more readable by emphasising the
> important bits - I'm going to have to rethink how that's possible.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/05/2019 11:12, Eric Coates wrote:
> > Hi (again!)
> >
> > OK, if you had AlphaVantage working at some time you'll have an 
> > AlphAvantage API key.
> >
> > (In GnuCash 3.5 you can confirm this by going through*Edit > 
> > Preferences > Online Quotes *and confirming that the key appears
> > there)
> >
> > It sounds as if you've hit the problem with AlphaVantage throttling 
> > the queries; the way to overcome this is to modify the file 
> > *AlphaVantage.pm.* I had problems finding the correct file to
> > modify but I think in Ubuntu 18.04 it is 
> > at*/usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance/Quote*; in 19.04 it's at 
> > *usr/share/perl5/Finance/Quote/AlphaVantage.pm*. Or, to be more
> > exact, that's where it was/is on my system; if it's not there a
> > hint (given by John Ralls a while ago) is to look in the
> > */etc/share* directory and look in folders called perl or perl5.
> >
> > Having found the file it needs to be modified to add in a delay
> > that overcomes the throttling problem. Very close to the end of the
> > file there is a line
> >
> > *select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity);*
> >
> > (although, to be honest, I can't swear that the final semi-colon 
> > appears) that needs to be modified to read
> >
> > *select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity); sleep(15);*
> >
> > (the modified line does need the semi-colon).
> >
> > It took me some time to gather the courage to go in and modify a 
> > "system" file; if you share my discomfort I can provide some
> > guidance on how to do it.
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Eric
> > **
> >
> >
> > On 11/05/2019 02:18, DaveW wrote:  
> >> Where, please, can I get wo-to-go instructions to get my stock
> >> Price Editor (Re)working??
> >>
> >> I am running Ubuntu 18.04.  GNC ver 3.5.  My stock is all on the
> >> ASX (Australia).  Things worked wonderfully until the Yahoo demise
> >> and then for a while I was able to use Alphvantage but that
> >> stopped too.
> >>
> >> I have tried all sorts of fixes randomly and fear I have completely
> >> confused GNC in the process.
> >>
> >> I would greatly appreciate some step by step assistance.
> >>
> >> Dave W
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Re: [GNC] Price Editor Problems

[Eric Coates]

Gert

Thank you for the tip. I have (I think!) found the "offending" setting. 
I have unset it.


I think it's possibly something to do with the mailing list - sending a 
message with *bold* and /italic/ text to another of my email addresses 
shows no problems.




Everybody

Please forgive the small experiment.

Best wishes

Eric

===

On 11/05/2019 18:11, Geert Janssens wrote:

It looks like you have sent an html formatted mail and that got converted to
plain text somewhere. In plain text mails asterisks are typically the
replacement of the bold markup. So the text between two asterisks is
considered boldface.

Regards,

Geert

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[Geert Janssens]

It looks like you have sent an html formatted mail and that got converted to 
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replacement of the bold markup. So the text between two asterisks is 
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Regards,

Geert

Op zaterdag 11 mei 2019 12:20:11 CEST schreef Eric Coates:
> My apologies.
> 
> I am going to swear!
> 
> The message below is not the one I sent; lots of asterixes have been
> added, to get the correct message remove all of them (and if you want to
> see the original, enbolden the text they delineate)
> 
> I was trying to make the text more readable by emphasising the important
> bits - I'm going to have to rethink how that's possible.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/05/2019 11:12, Eric Coates wrote:
> > Hi (again!)
> > 
> > OK, if you had AlphaVantage working at some time you'll have an
> > AlphAvantage API key.
> > 
> > (In GnuCash 3.5 you can confirm this by going through*Edit >
> > Preferences > Online Quotes *and confirming that the key appears there)
> > 
> > It sounds as if you've hit the problem with AlphaVantage throttling
> > the queries; the way to overcome this is to modify the file
> > *AlphaVantage.pm.* I had problems finding the correct file to modify
> > but I think in Ubuntu 18.04 it is
> > at*/usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance/Quote*; in 19.04 it's at
> > *usr/share/perl5/Finance/Quote/AlphaVantage.pm*. Or, to be more exact,
> > that's where it was/is on my system; if it's not there a hint (given
> > by John Ralls a while ago) is to look in the */etc/share* directory
> > and look in folders called perl or perl5.
> > 
> > Having found the file it needs to be modified to add in a delay that
> > overcomes the throttling problem. Very close to the end of the file
> > there is a line
> > 
> > *select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity);*
> > 
> > (although, to be honest, I can't swear that the final semi-colon
> > appears) that needs to be modified to read
> > 
> > *select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity); sleep(15);*
> > 
> > (the modified line does need the semi-colon).
> > 
> > It took me some time to gather the courage to go in and modify a
> > "system" file; if you share my discomfort I can provide some guidance
> > on how to do it.
> > 
> > Best wishes
> > 
> > Eric
> > **
> > 
> > On 11/05/2019 02:18, DaveW wrote:
> >> Where, please, can I get wo-to-go instructions to get my stock Price
> >> Editor (Re)working??
> >> 
> >> I am running Ubuntu 18.04.  GNC ver 3.5.  My stock is all on the ASX
> >> (Australia).  Things worked wonderfully until the Yahoo demise and
> >> then for a while I was able to use Alphvantage but that stopped too.
> >> 
> >> I have tried all sorts of fixes randomly and fear I have completely
> >> confused GNC in the process.
> >> 
> >> I would greatly appreciate some step by step assistance.
> >> 
> >> Dave W
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Re: [GNC] Price Editor Problems

[Eric Coates]

My apologies.

I am going to swear!

The message below is not the one I sent; lots of asterixes have been 
added, to get the correct message remove all of them (and if you want to 
see the original, enbolden the text they delineate)


I was trying to make the text more readable by emphasising the important 
bits - I'm going to have to rethink how that's possible.


Eric




On 11/05/2019 11:12, Eric Coates wrote:

Hi (again!)

OK, if you had AlphaVantage working at some time you'll have an 
AlphAvantage API key.


(In GnuCash 3.5 you can confirm this by going through*Edit > 
Preferences > Online Quotes *and confirming that the key appears there)


It sounds as if you've hit the problem with AlphaVantage throttling 
the queries; the way to overcome this is to modify the file 
*AlphaVantage.pm.* I had problems finding the correct file to modify 
but I think in Ubuntu 18.04 it is 
at*/usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance/Quote*; in 19.04 it's at 
*usr/share/perl5/Finance/Quote/AlphaVantage.pm*. Or, to be more exact, 
that's where it was/is on my system; if it's not there a hint (given 
by John Ralls a while ago) is to look in the */etc/share* directory 
and look in folders called perl or perl5.


Having found the file it needs to be modified to add in a delay that 
overcomes the throttling problem. Very close to the end of the file 
there is a line


*select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity);*

(although, to be honest, I can't swear that the final semi-colon 
appears) that needs to be modified to read


*select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity); sleep(15);*

(the modified line does need the semi-colon).

It took me some time to gather the courage to go in and modify a 
"system" file; if you share my discomfort I can provide some guidance 
on how to do it.


Best wishes

Eric
**


On 11/05/2019 02:18, DaveW wrote:

Where, please, can I get wo-to-go instructions to get my stock Price
Editor (Re)working??

I am running Ubuntu 18.04.  GNC ver 3.5.  My stock is all on the ASX
(Australia).  Things worked wonderfully until the Yahoo demise and
then for a while I was able to use Alphvantage but that stopped too.

I have tried all sorts of fixes randomly and fear I have completely
confused GNC in the process.

I would greatly appreciate some step by step assistance.

Dave W
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Re: [GNC] Price Editor Problems

[Eric Coates]

Hi (again!)

OK, if you had AlphaVantage working at some time you'll have an 
AlphAvantage API key.


(In GnuCash 3.5 you can confirm this by going through*Edit > Preferences 
> Online Quotes *and confirming that the key appears there)


It sounds as if you've hit the problem with AlphaVantage throttling the 
queries; the way to overcome this is to modify the file 
*AlphaVantage.pm.* I had problems finding the correct file to modify but 
I think in Ubuntu 18.04 it is 
at*/usr/local/share/perl/5.22.1/Finance/Quote*; in 19.04 it's at 
*usr/share/perl5/Finance/Quote/AlphaVantage.pm*. Or, to be more exact, 
that's where it was/is on my system; if it's not there a hint (given by 
John Ralls a while ago) is to look in the */etc/share* directory and 
look in folders called perl or perl5.


Having found the file it needs to be modified to add in a delay that 
overcomes the throttling problem. Very close to the end of the file 
there is a line


*select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity);*

(although, to be honest, I can't swear that the final semi-colon 
appears) that needs to be modified to read


*select(undef, undef, undef, .7) if ($quantity); sleep(15);*

(the modified line does need the semi-colon).

It took me some time to gather the courage to go in and modify a 
"system" file; if you share my discomfort I can provide some guidance on 
how to do it.


Best wishes

Eric
**


On 11/05/2019 02:18, DaveW wrote:

Where, please, can I get wo-to-go instructions to get my stock Price
Editor (Re)working??

I am running Ubuntu 18.04.  GNC ver 3.5.  My stock is all on the ASX
(Australia).  Things worked wonderfully until the Yahoo demise and
then for a while I was able to use Alphvantage but that stopped too.

I have tried all sorts of fixes randomly and fear I have completely
confused GNC in the process.

I would greatly appreciate some step by step assistance.

Dave W
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[GNC] Price Editor Problems

[DaveW]

Where, please, can I get wo-to-go instructions to get my stock Price
Editor (Re)working??

I am running Ubuntu 18.04.  GNC ver 3.5.  My stock is all on the ASX
(Australia).  Things worked wonderfully until the Yahoo demise and
then for a while I was able to use Alphvantage but that stopped too. 

I have tried all sorts of fixes randomly and fear I have completely
confused GNC in the process.

I would greatly appreciate some step by step assistance.

Dave W
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Re: [GNC] Price Editor

[Les]

Hi David:

Yes, I have always used XML. And, up untill this week, all of my quotes 
were from date of acquisition, some as old as 2010.  I cannot imagine 
why they have disappeared.


Les


On 09/20/2018 05:00 PM, David Carlson wrote:
Les, that seems very strange as the price editor should be displaying 
all the prices that are currently in the data file.  Are you using the 
regular XML data file format or a database format?


David C

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 4:20 PM Les > wrote:


I have noticed that beginning this week (09/1702018) the price
database
of my securities has been truncated and only the current week's
prices
are being displayed.

Is this a bug?

My system is unchanged (Linux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17).

Thanks,

Les
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Re: [GNC] Price Editor

[David Carlson]

Les, that seems very strange as the price editor should be displaying all
the prices that are currently in the data file.  Are you using the regular
XML data file format or a database format?

David C

On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 4:20 PM Les  wrote:

> I have noticed that beginning this week (09/1702018) the price database
> of my securities has been truncated and only the current week's prices
> are being displayed.
>
> Is this a bug?
>
> My system is unchanged (Linux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Les
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[GNC] Price Editor

[Les]

I have noticed that beginning this week (09/1702018) the price database 
of my securities has been truncated and only the current week's prices 
are being displayed.


Is this a bug?

My system is unchanged (Linux Mint 18.2 and GC 2.6.17).

Thanks,

Les
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[GNC] Price editor is not getting the quotes.

[Bill Swanson]

I am using alphavantage. Has the get quotes method changed?

Thanks in advance!

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