Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-07 Thread Alan
David,

 

I’ll post what I have, when I have it, if I can get it. But not immediately.

 

While gathering examples for this thread I may have discovered the root of the 
problem with Chase (for QIF files, only, and for all Chase customers). This 
should provide critical input for Bugzilla report #797651, too.

 

Then I discovered a similar problem with another bank. Info to follow.

 

And then I discovered a more serious direct download import problem with 
Aqbanking. New discussion thread to follow.

 

From: David Carlson [mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 01:50 PM
To: D. 
Cc: Alan ; Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

 

Alan,  since others are not claiming similar problems, we need details from 
you.  We cannot work blindly unless we are fighting coronavirus

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 12:18 PM David Carlson mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com> > wrote:

Now that we got ofx out of the way, we still need more info about why qif seems 
to be failing.  Often the problem can be traced to badly formed input file 
structure,  unless there has been a regression in GnuCash,  which would then 
appear to many users.

 

David Carlson 

 

On Wed, May 6, 2020, 12:05 PM D. mailto:sunfis...@yahoo.com> > wrote:

Alan, 

Thank you for clarifying. I have no interest in discussing either QFX or QIF. I 
was merely trying to help clarify the situation, since some users have 
encountered QFX data with duplicate FITIDs, which had caused them troubles. 

Good luck with your problem. 

David


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From: Alan mailto:alang...@bigtowers.net> >
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To: 'D' mailto:sunfis...@yahoo.com> >, 'David Carlson' 
mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com> >
Cc: 'Gnucash Users' mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> 
>
Subject: RE: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

David,

This discussion is only about QIF file import issues.

Please take the QFX issues to another discussion thread.

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Cc: Gnucash Users mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org> >
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

I'm trying to figure out whether the OP is referring to QIF or QFX. The original
message refers to the former. But subsequent messages refer to the latter.

If the problem is with QFX, perhaps the source file has FITID issues. Some
clarification is in order. 

David

On May 6, 2020, 16:48, at 16:48, David Carlson mailto:david.carlson@gmail.com> >
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Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash, 3.10

2020-05-06 Thread Eric H. Bowen via gnucash-user
Editing and re-sending to restore proper thread title; please ignore
previous submission.

I'm ashamed to admit it, but this is the exact same issue I reported
about a month and a half ago. (I did file a Bugzilla report; 797651
<https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=797651>) My experience was
also with Chase. I saved the data files but in correspondence with the
developers I was asked to install GnuCash 3.6 and see if the same
problem occurred with that. I could not figure out how to revert to an
older version and let the matter sit for the past six weeks. I apologize.

If I can get some technical assistance with the required version changes
I will attempt to get proper data to the developers before the end of
the month feature freeze. Feel free to write me directly as well as to
the list.

Eric H. Bowen
e...@ehbowen.net <mailto:e...@ehbowen.net>
On 5/6/2020 11:00 AM, gnucash-user-requ...@gnucash.org wrote:
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 6 May 2020 11:13:03 +
> From: Christopher Lam 
> To: "Fross, Michael" 
> Cc: Alan , Gnucash-User
>   
> Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash
>   3.10
> Message-ID:
>   
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> These issues would benefit from bugzilla reports, ideally with anonymised
> data.
>
> On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 11:07, Fross, Michael  wrote:
>
>> I have to keep importing the same QFX file over and over until I get
>> ?nothing to import? message. If I don?t, it seems to miss transactions in
>> the file. Not sure about QIF, but Maybe it?s similar.
>>
>> Michael
>>
>> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:53 PM Alan  wrote:
>>
>>> Took the latest activity on one Chase credit card account and downloaded
>>> in QIF
>>> format. Each time, Gnucash went through the motions, but never prompted
>>> for a
>>> target account. Then (for only 7 transactions), took a few minutes and
>> then
>>> brought up a screen attempting to match thousands of 10 year old
>>> transactions,
>>> which appear to be earlier failed QIF import attempts.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> But none of the NEW transactions (imported three times now) were read.
>> And
>>> a
>>> transaction matching screen is totally wrong. These are new transactions
>> so
>>> there's NOTHING to match. Same thing with the previous failed import
>>> attempts.
>>> No transactions to match.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This is probably why Gnucash blew the QIF import from Quicken the first
>> few
>>> times (was also broken in 3.08). Quicken's QIF export went nowhere.
>>> Thousands
>>> more transactions ignored, since Gnucash is not looking for any target
>>> account,
>>> and there could never be anything to "match." This makes it impossible to
>>> import
>>> previously audited, corrected, and reconciled transactions from Quicken.
>>>
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Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-06 Thread David Carlson
Alan,  since others are not claiming similar problems, we need details from
you.  We cannot work blindly unless we are fighting coronavirus

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 12:18 PM David Carlson 
wrote:

> Now that we got ofx out of the way, we still need more info about why qif
> seems to be failing.  Often the problem can be traced to badly formed input
> file structure,  unless there has been a regression in GnuCash,  which
> would then appear to many users.
>
> David Carlson
>
> On Wed, May 6, 2020, 12:05 PM D.  wrote:
>
>> Alan,
>>
>> Thank you for clarifying. I have no interest in discussing either QFX or
>> QIF. I was merely trying to help clarify the situation, since some users
>> have encountered QFX data with duplicate FITIDs, which had caused them
>> troubles.
>>
>> Good luck with your problem.
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>  Original Message 
>> From: Alan 
>> Sent: Wed May 06 21:51:35 GMT+05:30 2020
>> To: 'D' , 'David Carlson' <
>> david.carlson@gmail.com>
>> Cc: 'Gnucash Users' 
>> Subject: RE: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10
>>
>> David,
>>
>> This discussion is only about QIF file import issues.
>>
>> Please take the QFX issues to another discussion thread.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gnucash-user
>> [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+alangnuc=bigtowers@gnucash.org] On
>> Behalf Of D
>> via gnucash-user
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 10:17 AM
>> To: David Carlson 
>> Cc: Gnucash Users 
>> Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out whether the OP is referring to QIF or QFX. The
>> original
>> message refers to the former. But subsequent messages refer to the latter.
>>
>> If the problem is with QFX, perhaps the source file has FITID issues. Some
>> clarification is in order.
>>
>> David
>>
>> On May 6, 2020, 16:48, at 16:48, David Carlson <
>> david.carlson@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
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Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-06 Thread David Carlson
Now that we got ofx out of the way, we still need more info about why qif
seems to be failing.  Often the problem can be traced to badly formed input
file structure,  unless there has been a regression in GnuCash,  which
would then appear to many users.

David Carlson

On Wed, May 6, 2020, 12:05 PM D.  wrote:

> Alan,
>
> Thank you for clarifying. I have no interest in discussing either QFX or
> QIF. I was merely trying to help clarify the situation, since some users
> have encountered QFX data with duplicate FITIDs, which had caused them
> troubles.
>
> Good luck with your problem.
>
> David
>
>
>  Original Message 
> From: Alan 
> Sent: Wed May 06 21:51:35 GMT+05:30 2020
> To: 'D' , 'David Carlson' <
> david.carlson....@gmail.com>
> Cc: 'Gnucash Users' 
> Subject: RE: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10
>
> David,
>
> This discussion is only about QIF file import issues.
>
> Please take the QFX issues to another discussion thread.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: gnucash-user
> [mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+alangnuc=bigtowers@gnucash.org] On
> Behalf Of D
> via gnucash-user
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 10:17 AM
> To: David Carlson 
> Cc: Gnucash Users 
> Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10
>
> I'm trying to figure out whether the OP is referring to QIF or QFX. The
> original
> message refers to the former. But subsequent messages refer to the latter.
>
> If the problem is with QFX, perhaps the source file has FITID issues. Some
> clarification is in order.
>
> David
>
> On May 6, 2020, 16:48, at 16:48, David Carlson <
> david.carlson@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
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Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-06 Thread D. via gnucash-user
Alan, 

Thank you for clarifying. I have no interest in discussing either QFX or QIF. I 
was merely trying to help clarify the situation, since some users have 
encountered QFX data with duplicate FITIDs, which had caused them troubles. 

Good luck with your problem. 

David


 Original Message 
From: Alan 
Sent: Wed May 06 21:51:35 GMT+05:30 2020
To: 'D' , 'David Carlson' 
Cc: 'Gnucash Users' 
Subject: RE: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

David,

This discussion is only about QIF file import issues.

Please take the QFX issues to another discussion thread.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
[mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+alangnuc=bigtowers@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of D
via gnucash-user
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 10:17 AM
To: David Carlson 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

I'm trying to figure out whether the OP is referring to QIF or QFX. The original
message refers to the former. But subsequent messages refer to the latter.

If the problem is with QFX, perhaps the source file has FITID issues. Some
clarification is in order. 

David

On May 6, 2020, 16:48, at 16:48, David Carlson 
wrote:
>
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Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-06 Thread Michael via gnucash-user

David, I share your confusion.  Mike

On 5/6/20 9:21 AM, Alan wrote:

David,

This discussion is only about QIF file import issues.

Please take the QFX issues to another discussion thread.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
[mailto:gnucash-user-bounces+alangnuc=bigtowers@gnucash.org] On Behalf Of D
via gnucash-user
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 10:17 AM
To: David Carlson 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

I'm trying to figure out whether the OP is referring to QIF or QFX. The original
message refers to the former. But subsequent messages refer to the latter.

If the problem is with QFX, perhaps the source file has FITID issues. Some
clarification is in order.

David

On May 6, 2020, 16:48, at 16:48, David Carlson 
wrote:
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Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-06 Thread Alan
David,

This discussion is only about QIF file import issues.

Please take the QFX issues to another discussion thread.

-Original Message-
From: gnucash-user
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via gnucash-user
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2020 10:17 AM
To: David Carlson 
Cc: Gnucash Users 
Subject: Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

I'm trying to figure out whether the OP is referring to QIF or QFX. The original
message refers to the former. But subsequent messages refer to the latter.

If the problem is with QFX, perhaps the source file has FITID issues. Some
clarification is in order. 

David

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wrote:
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Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-06 Thread D via gnucash-user
I'm trying to figure out whether the OP is referring to QIF or QFX. The 
original message refers to the former. But subsequent messages refer to the 
latter.

If the problem is with QFX, perhaps the source file has FITID issues. Some 
clarification is in order. 

David

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wrote:
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Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-06 Thread David Carlson
Is this an isolated incident for one bank and one version of GnuCash or is
it a regression the latest release?

On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 6:07 AM Fross, Michael  wrote:

> I have to keep importing the same QFX file over and over until I get
> “nothing to import” message. If I don’t, it seems to miss transactions in
> the file. Not sure about QIF, but Maybe it’s similar.
>
> Michael
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:53 PM Alan  wrote:
>
> > Took the latest activity on one Chase credit card account and downloaded
> > in QIF
> > format. Each time, Gnucash went through the motions, but never prompted
> > for a
> > target account. Then (for only 7 transactions), took a few minutes and
> then
> > brought up a screen attempting to match thousands of 10 year old
> > transactions,
> > which appear to be earlier failed QIF import attempts.
> >
> >
> >
> > But none of the NEW transactions (imported three times now) were read.
> And
> > a
> > transaction matching screen is totally wrong. These are new transactions
> so
> > there's NOTHING to match. Same thing with the previous failed import
> > attempts.
> > No transactions to match.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is probably why Gnucash blew the QIF import from Quicken the first
> few
> > times (was also broken in 3.08). Quicken's QIF export went nowhere.
> > Thousands
> > more transactions ignored, since Gnucash is not looking for any target
> > account,
> > and there could never be anything to "match." This makes it impossible to
> > import
> > previously audited, corrected, and reconciled transactions from Quicken.
> >
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Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-06 Thread Christopher Lam
These issues would benefit from bugzilla reports, ideally with anonymised
data.

On Wed, 6 May 2020 at 11:07, Fross, Michael  wrote:

> I have to keep importing the same QFX file over and over until I get
> “nothing to import” message. If I don’t, it seems to miss transactions in
> the file. Not sure about QIF, but Maybe it’s similar.
>
> Michael
>
> On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:53 PM Alan  wrote:
>
> > Took the latest activity on one Chase credit card account and downloaded
> > in QIF
> > format. Each time, Gnucash went through the motions, but never prompted
> > for a
> > target account. Then (for only 7 transactions), took a few minutes and
> then
> > brought up a screen attempting to match thousands of 10 year old
> > transactions,
> > which appear to be earlier failed QIF import attempts.
> >
> >
> >
> > But none of the NEW transactions (imported three times now) were read.
> And
> > a
> > transaction matching screen is totally wrong. These are new transactions
> so
> > there's NOTHING to match. Same thing with the previous failed import
> > attempts.
> > No transactions to match.
> >
> >
> >
> > This is probably why Gnucash blew the QIF import from Quicken the first
> few
> > times (was also broken in 3.08). Quicken's QIF export went nowhere.
> > Thousands
> > more transactions ignored, since Gnucash is not looking for any target
> > account,
> > and there could never be anything to "match." This makes it impossible to
> > import
> > previously audited, corrected, and reconciled transactions from Quicken.
> >
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Re: [GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-06 Thread Fross, Michael
I have to keep importing the same QFX file over and over until I get
“nothing to import” message. If I don’t, it seems to miss transactions in
the file. Not sure about QIF, but Maybe it’s similar.

Michael

On Tue, May 5, 2020 at 10:53 PM Alan  wrote:

> Took the latest activity on one Chase credit card account and downloaded
> in QIF
> format. Each time, Gnucash went through the motions, but never prompted
> for a
> target account. Then (for only 7 transactions), took a few minutes and then
> brought up a screen attempting to match thousands of 10 year old
> transactions,
> which appear to be earlier failed QIF import attempts.
>
>
>
> But none of the NEW transactions (imported three times now) were read. And
> a
> transaction matching screen is totally wrong. These are new transactions so
> there's NOTHING to match. Same thing with the previous failed import
> attempts.
> No transactions to match.
>
>
>
> This is probably why Gnucash blew the QIF import from Quicken the first few
> times (was also broken in 3.08). Quicken's QIF export went nowhere.
> Thousands
> more transactions ignored, since Gnucash is not looking for any target
> account,
> and there could never be anything to "match." This makes it impossible to
> import
> previously audited, corrected, and reconciled transactions from Quicken.
>
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[GNC] QIF file import still doesn't work with Gnucash 3.10

2020-05-05 Thread Alan
Took the latest activity on one Chase credit card account and downloaded in QIF
format. Each time, Gnucash went through the motions, but never prompted for a
target account. Then (for only 7 transactions), took a few minutes and then
brought up a screen attempting to match thousands of 10 year old transactions,
which appear to be earlier failed QIF import attempts.

 

But none of the NEW transactions (imported three times now) were read. And a
transaction matching screen is totally wrong. These are new transactions so
there's NOTHING to match. Same thing with the previous failed import attempts.
No transactions to match.

 

This is probably why Gnucash blew the QIF import from Quicken the first few
times (was also broken in 3.08). Quicken's QIF export went nowhere. Thousands
more transactions ignored, since Gnucash is not looking for any target account,
and there could never be anything to "match." This makes it impossible to import
previously audited, corrected, and reconciled transactions from Quicken.

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