Re: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger

2018-02-06 Thread Mike or Penny Novack

On 2/6/2018 12:15 PM, Mike Donovan wrote:

Having recorded many transactions to the cash account, I would like to copy 
these to the GL (which has no transactions currently) and then use the GL for 
recording all future transactions. Can this be done? Thanks.

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Review the intro to double entry bookkeeping.

a) The cash account IS a ledger account.
b) Each transaction you entered (entering from the cash account) had 
ANOTHER (at least one other) account associated with it, the other side 
of the transactions. If you did not specify that other account, gnucash 
used the account "Imbalance" as a (temporary) default account. You need 
to FIX each of these (change to the correct account)
c) Gnucash only has a ledger. The journal is virtual (you can run a 
report that will show it to you).


Michael D Novack
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RE: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger

2018-02-06 Thread Mike Donovan
Adrien:

Thanks again. Geert’s recommendation regarding the filter solved my problem.

Regards,
Mike

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From: Adrien Monteleone
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:43 PM
To: gnucash-user
Subject: Re: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger

Mike,

See the replies by Geert and John.

The GL by default only shows the last 30 days of transactions. If the 
transactions you entered previously were dated more than 30 days ago, you won’t 
see them. Turn off the default filter first as they mentioned.

As John noted, be wary of entering directly in the GL. You CAN do so, but it’s 
not necessarily the best practice. Unlike other registers, it is not an 
account, merely a view of all accounts. Entering from another register, you can 
default to a split containing the account you are in holding the balance. The 
GL has no such option since it isn’t an account, you’ll have to be careful to 
enter both debit and credit lines before entering out of the transaction or 
you’ll have a mess of unbalanced entries to clean up.

For example, if I’m entering an expense paid with cash, I open the cash account 
register, enter my debit expense split and the register includes the matching 
split as a credit to cash already there for me. I also don’t have the option of 
deleting that cash split since it would ‘un-link’ the transaction to that 
register. This helps me enter transactions properly without mistakes. Normally, 
I use Transaction Journal view by default, but this is even more important if 
using Basic view which only shows one account split.

Also, please copy the list on all replies so others can benefit from the 
exchange.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 6, 2018, at 1:42 PM, Mike Donovan  wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
>  
> Thanks for your reply. When I go to Tools> General Ledger, I show a new line 
> waiting for transaction entry. No other transactions are shown. Is it 
> possible that I need to change a setting to get your (favorable) result?
>  
> Regards,
> Mike
>  
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> From: Adrien Monteleone <mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:59 PM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger
>  
> Mike,
>  
> There’s no copying anything to the General Ledger. The GL is simply a 
> consolidated view of all accounts. Your transactions should be there. I just 
> did a test with a fresh book, entered some transactions in Cash, opened the 
> GL and the transactions were all there. I presume you are going to Tools > 
> General Ledger right?
>  
> Certainly you can enter transactions in the GL only if you prefer. 
> Personally, I like to enter them in the account the money is coming from to 
> keep my entries straight. (some enter their credit card charges as expenses 
> from the card liability account for the same reason)
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Adrien
>  
> > On Feb 6, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Mike Donovan  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Having recorded many transactions to the cash account, I would like to copy 
> > these to the GL (which has no transactions currently) and then use the GL 
> > for recording all future transactions. Can this be done? Thanks.
> > 
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Re: Re: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger

2018-02-06 Thread Mike Donovan
Geert:

Thanks for your helpful reply. I can now see all transactions.

Best Wishes,
Mike

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Re: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger

2018-02-06 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Mike,

See the replies by Geert and John.

The GL by default only shows the last 30 days of transactions. If the 
transactions you entered previously were dated more than 30 days ago, you won’t 
see them. Turn off the default filter first as they mentioned.

As John noted, be wary of entering directly in the GL. You CAN do so, but it’s 
not necessarily the best practice. Unlike other registers, it is not an 
account, merely a view of all accounts. Entering from another register, you can 
default to a split containing the account you are in holding the balance. The 
GL has no such option since it isn’t an account, you’ll have to be careful to 
enter both debit and credit lines before entering out of the transaction or 
you’ll have a mess of unbalanced entries to clean up.

For example, if I’m entering an expense paid with cash, I open the cash account 
register, enter my debit expense split and the register includes the matching 
split as a credit to cash already there for me. I also don’t have the option of 
deleting that cash split since it would ‘un-link’ the transaction to that 
register. This helps me enter transactions properly without mistakes. Normally, 
I use Transaction Journal view by default, but this is even more important if 
using Basic view which only shows one account split.

Also, please copy the list on all replies so others can benefit from the 
exchange.

Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 6, 2018, at 1:42 PM, Mike Donovan  wrote:
> 
> Adrien,
>  
> Thanks for your reply. When I go to Tools> General Ledger, I show a new line 
> waiting for transaction entry. No other transactions are shown. Is it 
> possible that I need to change a setting to get your (favorable) result?
>  
> Regards,
> Mike
>  
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
>  
> From: Adrien Monteleone <mailto:adrien.montele...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 12:59 PM
> To: gnucash-user@gnucash.org <mailto:gnucash-user@gnucash.org>
> Subject: Re: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger
>  
> Mike,
>  
> There’s no copying anything to the General Ledger. The GL is simply a 
> consolidated view of all accounts. Your transactions should be there. I just 
> did a test with a fresh book, entered some transactions in Cash, opened the 
> GL and the transactions were all there. I presume you are going to Tools > 
> General Ledger right?
>  
> Certainly you can enter transactions in the GL only if you prefer. 
> Personally, I like to enter them in the account the money is coming from to 
> keep my entries straight. (some enter their credit card charges as expenses 
> from the card liability account for the same reason)
>  
>  
> Regards,
> Adrien
>  
> > On Feb 6, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Mike Donovan  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Having recorded many transactions to the cash account, I would like to copy 
> > these to the GL (which has no transactions currently) and then use the GL 
> > for recording all future transactions. Can this be done? Thanks.
> > 
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Re: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger

2018-02-06 Thread John Ralls


> On Feb 6, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Mike Donovan  wrote:
> 
> Having recorded many transactions to the cash account, I would like to copy 
> these to the GL (which has no transactions currently) and then use the GL for 
> recording all future transactions. Can this be done? Thanks.

GnuCash doesn’t have a GL as a separate account. There’s a General Ledger 
register view (Tools>General Ledger; afterwards use View>Filter By... to select 
the date range displayed)
that shows all transactions sorted by date and in split view; this is the same 
view that you get if you run Edit>Find... from the Accounts page.

Assuming that the transactions that you recorded in the cash account were in 
fact cash transactions and that you want to track your cash balance (GnuCash’s 
“common accounts” template includes a “Cash in Wallet” account for this 
purpose) then you’re doing the right thing.

You don’t want a GL account that isn’t associated with a particular actual 
account or physical location of currency (e.g. cash in my wallet, cash in 
wife’s wallet, cash in wall safe, etc.); you’ll just wind up with an 
unbalanceable mess.

Regards,
John Ralls

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Re: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger

2018-02-06 Thread Adrien Monteleone
Mike,

There’s no copying anything to the General Ledger. The GL is simply a 
consolidated view of all accounts. Your transactions should be there. I just 
did a test with a fresh book, entered some transactions in Cash, opened the GL 
and the transactions were all there. I presume you are going to Tools > General 
Ledger right?

Certainly you can enter transactions in the GL only if you prefer. Personally, 
I like to enter them in the account the money is coming from to keep my entries 
straight. (some enter their credit card charges as expenses from the card 
liability account for the same reason)


Regards,
Adrien

> On Feb 6, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Mike Donovan  wrote:
> 
> Having recorded many transactions to the cash account, I would like to copy 
> these to the GL (which has no transactions currently) and then use the GL for 
> recording all future transactions. Can this be done? Thanks.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger

2018-02-06 Thread Geert Janssens
Op dinsdag 6 februari 2018 18:15:35 CET schreef Mike Donovan:
> Having recorded many transactions to the cash account, I would like to copy
> these to the GL (which has no transactions currently) and then use the GL
> for recording all future transactions. Can this be done? Thanks.
> 
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

*All* transactions are in the general ledger automatically.

If you don't see them there, that's probably because the general ledger is by 
default filtered to the transactions of the past 30 days.

Try View/Filter By... to remove this filter. Unfortunately it's not retained 
so you'll have to do it each time you open the GL.

Regards,

Geert


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Re: Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger

2018-02-06 Thread Anthony Hepple
Hi Mike

The easiest way I know of, to move ALL the transactions from one
account to an empty account, is to simply rename the account!

On 6 February 2018 at 17:15, Mike Donovan  wrote:
> Having recorded many transactions to the cash account, I would like to copy 
> these to the GL (which has no transactions currently) and then use the GL for 
> recording all future transactions. Can this be done? Thanks.

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Copying transactions from an account to the general ledger

2018-02-06 Thread Mike Donovan
Having recorded many transactions to the cash account, I would like to copy 
these to the GL (which has no transactions currently) and then use the GL for 
recording all future transactions. Can this be done? Thanks.

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