Re: Mortgage payments in Income/Expense report?

2017-07-02 Thread Dan Rawson

Maf and Mike -

I do understand the issue; if I could get the Cash Flow report to total sub-categories 
into the parent (so I got "Expenses:Auto" instead of "Expenses:Auto:Gas", 
Expenses:Auto:Maintenance", etc.), then I'd be a happy guy :-).  That was actually where I 
started . . . but I couldn't figure out how to make the sub-categories work the way I wanted.


Thanks!

Dan

On 07/02/2017 09:55 AM, Maf. King wrote:

On Sunday, 2 July 2017 14:46:19 BST Mike or Penny Novack wrote:

On 7/2/2017 7:02 AM, Dan Rawson wrote:

an Income/Expense report that ALSO includes the transfers to the
liability (let's face it, that's an "expense" :-), but the Liability
Dan

Misunderstanding about the basics.
You are thinking of it as an "expense" because it affects cash flow.

Hi Mike,

IMHO, the OP isn't misunderstanding - hence the quotes and smiley.  You are
correct in the accounting sense, but I can understand that it is a sort of
"expense" in the sense that it comes out of each month's wages and needs to be
budgeted / allocated.

I was going to suggest he try the cash flow report and see if it can be munged
into showing what is required, before you beat me to it.


0.02
Maf.


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Re: Mortgage payments in Income/Expense report?

2017-07-02 Thread Maf. King
On Sunday, 2 July 2017 14:46:19 BST Mike or Penny Novack wrote:
> On 7/2/2017 7:02 AM, Dan Rawson wrote:

> > an Income/Expense report that ALSO includes the transfers to the
> > liability (let's face it, that's an "expense" :-), but the Liability

> > 
> > Dan
> 
> Misunderstanding about the basics.

> You are thinking of it as an "expense" because it affects cash flow.

Hi Mike,

IMHO, the OP isn't misunderstanding - hence the quotes and smiley.  You are 
correct in the accounting sense, but I can understand that it is a sort of 
"expense" in the sense that it comes out of each month's wages and needs to be 
budgeted / allocated. 

I was going to suggest he try the cash flow report and see if it can be munged 
into showing what is required, before you beat me to it.


0.02
Maf.


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Re: Mortgage payments in Income/Expense report?

2017-07-02 Thread Mike or Penny Novack

On 7/2/2017 7:02 AM, Dan Rawson wrote:
I've set up my mortgage as a liability, and the checks are split to 
the liability, property tax, and interest.  I'd like to be able to run 
an Income/Expense report that ALSO includes the transfers to the 
liability (let's face it, that's an "expense" :-), but the Liability 
accounts aren't available to select when doing the income/expense 
reports.


The alternative would be using the account summary, but I can't do a 
date range limit on that report.


Do I have to write a custom report to to do this?

Thanks!

Dan 


Misunderstanding about the basics. When you consider that portion of 
your mortgage payment that is toward the principle (reducing the 
liability) that is NOT an expense (in terms of "income and expense"). 
You are thinking of it as an "expense" because it affects cash flow. 
That would be a different report. They show different things, and you 
can be OK in terms of "income and expense" but in trouble in terms of 
"cash flow" or vice versa (as well as being OK in both senses).


If you are having trouble understanding this concept you are probably 
doing your credit card accounting wrong. Each time you use your credit 
card to pay some expense you are crediting the credit card and debiting 
the expense, but no cash went out (yet). When you make a payment on the 
credit card (credit cash) you debit interest expense and credit card 
balance. Cash went out, but only what (if any*) was for interest an expense.


Michael D Novack

* Some of us do not pay any interest on our credit cards. We pay the 
balance in full each month.





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Mortgage payments in Income/Expense report?

2017-07-02 Thread Dan Rawson
I've set up my mortgage as a liability, and the checks are split to the liability, 
property tax, and interest.  I'd like to be able to run an Income/Expense report that ALSO 
includes the transfers to the liability (let's face it, that's an "expense" :-), but the 
Liability accounts aren't available to select when doing the income/expense reports.


The alternative would be using the account summary, but I can't do a date range limit on 
that report.


Do I have to write a custom report to to do this?

Thanks!

Dan

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