Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread David H
Ah forget that it does actually do a new search, sorry for the noise,

Cheers David H.

On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 07:04, David H  wrote:

> You say 20, I counted 30 on macOS :-)  The thing I don't like much about
> it is you enter for example an e and you get 20/30 entries then typing
> further letters to refine the search it only seems to narrow down the
> results from the initial subset of search results instead of refreshing the
> actual search results.
>
> Cheers David H.
>
>
> On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 03:01, Adrien Monteleone <
> adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:
>
>> I think it is the same/similar code used for account selection. (and
>> that feature *greatly* speeds up entry)
>>
>> The idea is that you don't *have* to know or recall how something is
>> spelled *in order* and thus get all options so you can choose the right
>> one.
>>
>> While that is intended, and can be helpful, there are certainly times
>> where it slows you down. I haven't noticed on the Description line, but
>> I know account lookup is limited to 20 results. This can pose a problem
>> if the desired account is not shown in those 20 results as you can't
>> scroll to it at all. This forces a more complicated 'lookup' entry or
>> resorting to the old-school a:b:c shorthand to get what you want. I can
>> only imagine that if the Description field has this same limitation,
>> that can be another complication.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Adrien
>>
>> On 5/4/23 11:17 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
>> > I did that and it's now only 12! The oddity for me is that not only is
>> the
>> > list long but in my mind typing "jo" should start a list that begins
>> with
>> > jo, not al johnsons, happy joes and jimmie johns!
>> >
>> > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:24 AM Gyle McCollam 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I know it involves an extra keystroke, but type "jo".  At least then
>> you
>> >> don't have to use the down arrow 20 or more times.
>>
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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread David H
You say 20, I counted 30 on macOS :-)  The thing I don't like much about it
is you enter for example an e and you get 20/30 entries then typing further
letters to refine the search it only seems to narrow down the results from
the initial subset of search results instead of refreshing the actual
search results.

Cheers David H.


On Fri, 5 May 2023 at 03:01, Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> I think it is the same/similar code used for account selection. (and
> that feature *greatly* speeds up entry)
>
> The idea is that you don't *have* to know or recall how something is
> spelled *in order* and thus get all options so you can choose the right
> one.
>
> While that is intended, and can be helpful, there are certainly times
> where it slows you down. I haven't noticed on the Description line, but
> I know account lookup is limited to 20 results. This can pose a problem
> if the desired account is not shown in those 20 results as you can't
> scroll to it at all. This forces a more complicated 'lookup' entry or
> resorting to the old-school a:b:c shorthand to get what you want. I can
> only imagine that if the Description field has this same limitation,
> that can be another complication.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/4/23 11:17 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > I did that and it's now only 12! The oddity for me is that not only is
> the
> > list long but in my mind typing "jo" should start a list that begins with
> > jo, not al johnsons, happy joes and jimmie johns!
> >
> > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:24 AM Gyle McCollam 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I know it involves an extra keystroke, but type "jo".  At least then you
> >> don't have to use the down arrow 20 or more times.
>
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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread David Carlson
I happen to like it that you don't need to know the first character(s) if
something in the middle is the really unique part of what you want.

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 12:01 PM Adrien Monteleone <
adrien.montele...@lusfiber.net> wrote:

> I think it is the same/similar code used for account selection. (and
> that feature *greatly* speeds up entry)
>
> The idea is that you don't *have* to know or recall how something is
> spelled *in order* and thus get all options so you can choose the right
> one.
>
> While that is intended, and can be helpful, there are certainly times
> where it slows you down. I haven't noticed on the Description line, but
> I know account lookup is limited to 20 results. This can pose a problem
> if the desired account is not shown in those 20 results as you can't
> scroll to it at all. This forces a more complicated 'lookup' entry or
> resorting to the old-school a:b:c shorthand to get what you want. I can
> only imagine that if the Description field has this same limitation,
> that can be another complication.
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 5/4/23 11:17 AM, Jack Slater wrote:
> > I did that and it's now only 12! The oddity for me is that not only is
> the
> > list long but in my mind typing "jo" should start a list that begins with
> > jo, not al johnsons, happy joes and jimmie johns!
> >
> > On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:24 AM Gyle McCollam 
> wrote:
> >
> >> I know it involves an extra keystroke, but type "jo".  At least then you
> >> don't have to use the down arrow 20 or more times.
>
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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread Adrien Monteleone
I think it is the same/similar code used for account selection. (and 
that feature *greatly* speeds up entry)


The idea is that you don't *have* to know or recall how something is 
spelled *in order* and thus get all options so you can choose the right one.


While that is intended, and can be helpful, there are certainly times 
where it slows you down. I haven't noticed on the Description line, but 
I know account lookup is limited to 20 results. This can pose a problem 
if the desired account is not shown in those 20 results as you can't 
scroll to it at all. This forces a more complicated 'lookup' entry or 
resorting to the old-school a:b:c shorthand to get what you want. I can 
only imagine that if the Description field has this same limitation, 
that can be another complication.


Regards,
Adrien

On 5/4/23 11:17 AM, Jack Slater wrote:

I did that and it's now only 12! The oddity for me is that not only is the
list long but in my mind typing "jo" should start a list that begins with
jo, not al johnsons, happy joes and jimmie johns!

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:24 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:


I know it involves an extra keystroke, but type "jo".  At least then you
don't have to use the down arrow 20 or more times.


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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread Jack Slater
I did that and it's now only 12! The oddity for me is that not only is the
list long but in my mind typing "jo" should start a list that begins with
jo, not al johnsons, happy joes and jimmie johns!

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 10:24 AM Gyle McCollam  wrote:

> I know it involves an extra keystroke, but type "jo".  At least then you
> don't have to use the down arrow 20 or more times.
>
> Thank You,
>
> *Gyle McCollam*
>
> Gyle McCollam
>
> gmccol...@live.comemail
> --
> *From:* gnucash-user 
> on behalf of Jack Slater 
> *Sent:* Thursday, May 4, 2023 10:57 AM
> *To:* gnucash-user@gnucash.org 
> *Subject:* [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?
>
> In the new build, if I type a "j" I now get a pop-up list with the 1st
> option listed as "adj". I then have to down-arrow past 20ish entries to get
> to "john".
>
> In past builds, typing the same "j" would pop up the last "j" I had
> entered, which was in most cases "john", the same business name that I
> enter frequently.
>
> I'm hoping there is an option to turn OFF the new process! If so please
> tell me how. If not, we need it ASAP. The new process is wayy slower.
>
> Jack in Illinois
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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread Jack Slater
Great feedback. I'll head there now.

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 11:03 AM Vincent Dawans  wrote:

> Jack:
>
> This is being discussed in this bug report
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798829
>
> I think it would be good to have more users express their views and needs
> about this feature in that report so the developers have a better sense of
> the various issues. In expressing your views, it's also good to offer what
> sort of tweak for alternative behavior you would want to see, so the
> developers can get a sense of what users want (instead of just complaints
> about what they don't want) and see how they can reconcile different needs.
>
> It has been discussed on the email list before as well but then ideas etc.
> get lost a bit. With the bug report it's all in one place. So I encourage
> all with comments about this feature to put them on the bug report.
> https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798829
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Vincent Dawans
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 7:59 AM Jack Slater  wrote:
>
>> In the new build, if I type a "j" I now get a pop-up list with the 1st
>> option listed as "adj". I then have to down-arrow past 20ish entries to
>> get
>> to "john".
>>
>> In past builds, typing the same "j" would pop up the last "j" I had
>> entered, which was in most cases "john", the same business name that I
>> enter frequently.
>>
>> I'm hoping there is an option to turn OFF the new process! If so please
>> tell me how. If not, we need it ASAP. The new process is wayy slower.
>>
>> Jack in Illinois
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Re: [GNC] 5.1 - New Description Memory Option?

2023-05-04 Thread Vincent Dawans
Jack:

This is being discussed in this bug report
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798829

I think it would be good to have more users express their views and needs
about this feature in that report so the developers have a better sense of
the various issues. In expressing your views, it's also good to offer what
sort of tweak for alternative behavior you would want to see, so the
developers can get a sense of what users want (instead of just complaints
about what they don't want) and see how they can reconcile different needs.

It has been discussed on the email list before as well but then ideas etc.
get lost a bit. With the bug report it's all in one place. So I encourage
all with comments about this feature to put them on the bug report.
https://bugs.gnucash.org/show_bug.cgi?id=798829

Sincerely,

Vincent Dawans

On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 7:59 AM Jack Slater  wrote:

> In the new build, if I type a "j" I now get a pop-up list with the 1st
> option listed as "adj". I then have to down-arrow past 20ish entries to get
> to "john".
>
> In past builds, typing the same "j" would pop up the last "j" I had
> entered, which was in most cases "john", the same business name that I
> enter frequently.
>
> I'm hoping there is an option to turn OFF the new process! If so please
> tell me how. If not, we need it ASAP. The new process is wayy slower.
>
> Jack in Illinois
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