Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu
Hi Colin, Sorry for the confusion. I had gone back to check where LM installed from its software manager to check that it was into /usr/local and discovered it was now using flatpack and didn't install in any manner I was previously accustomed to. I appreciate that apt installs to /usr but my memory was that LM packagers installed it to/usr/local, but it had been 3-4 years since I have installed GnuCash from the Software Manager in Mint as I've been building it from source. I'll update the wiki page to reflect that the Ubuntu packagers install it in/usr David - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu
What is that a correction to? Colin On 8 July 2018 at 11:37, DaveC49 wrote: > Colin, > > A correction. The latest LM 18.3 Software Manager now installs Gnucash 3.2 > as a flatpack in /usr/bin. There are no identiable gnucash directories > apart > from the user configuration. > > David > > > > - > David Cousens > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu
Colin, A correction. The latest LM 18.3 Software Manager now installs Gnucash 3.2 as a flatpack in /usr/bin. There are no identiable gnucash directories apart from the user configuration. David - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu
Hi David I have changed the text on usr/local. I haven't changed the title as it was not immediately clear to me how to do that. It probably doesn't matter anyway. Cheers Colin On 5 July 2018 at 11:12, DaveC49 wrote: > Hi Colin, > > I'm responsible for m,ost of the update on the build Ubuntu. No problem > for > me with a more generic page name at all. I had stuck with the names that > were there as I updated it with the more recent build instructions. I have > tried to generalise the page and make it a bit more user oriented and less > specifically developer oriented than it was originally. > > I have always wondered about the /usr/local/ as I also personally have a > lot > of home built software which installs there by default and the Ubuntu File > System Heirarchy lists the two most common install points other than the > users home directory as: > > /opt :- This directory is reserved for all the software and add-on packages > that are not part of the default installation > > /usr/local :- The /usr/local hierarchy is for use by the system > administrator when installing software locally. It needs to be safe from > being overwritten when the system software is updated. > > Please feel free to modfy the text as you feel fit. I did not find the FHS > exactly illuminating. > > The Linux Mint and I presume Ubuntu distribution versions of GnuCash > install > into /usr/local. I have always installed there and as long as I don't > install over it from the software manager, it has never been a problem for > me. I modified that from an earlier version which primarily recommended > installing into $HOME/.local as the preferred option. I do use that if I > have built a version from the github master or maint for testing so it was > possibly more developer oriented. T times I have had 3 versions of GnuCash > up and running > > David > Cousens > > > > - > David Cousens > -- > Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html > ___ > gnucash-user mailing list > gnucash-user@gnucash.org > To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: > https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user > If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see > https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. > - > Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. > You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. > ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu
Hi Colin, I'm responsible for m,ost of the update on the build Ubuntu. No problem for me with a more generic page name at all. I had stuck with the names that were there as I updated it with the more recent build instructions. I have tried to generalise the page and make it a bit more user oriented and less specifically developer oriented than it was originally. I have always wondered about the /usr/local/ as I also personally have a lot of home built software which installs there by default and the Ubuntu File System Heirarchy lists the two most common install points other than the users home directory as: /opt :- This directory is reserved for all the software and add-on packages that are not part of the default installation /usr/local :- The /usr/local hierarchy is for use by the system administrator when installing software locally. It needs to be safe from being overwritten when the system software is updated. Please feel free to modfy the text as you feel fit. I did not find the FHS exactly illuminating. The Linux Mint and I presume Ubuntu distribution versions of GnuCash install into /usr/local. I have always installed there and as long as I don't install over it from the software manager, it has never been a problem for me. I modified that from an earlier version which primarily recommended installing into $HOME/.local as the preferred option. I do use that if I have built a version from the github master or maint for testing so it was possibly more developer oriented. T times I have had 3 versions of GnuCash up and running David Cousens - David Cousens -- Sent from: http://gnucash.1415818.n4.nabble.com/GnuCash-User-f1415819.html ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu
Thank you. I guess I didn't look far enough into the /usr directories. RBM On 07/04/2018 09:35 AM, Geert Janssens wrote: Op woensdag 4 juli 2018 16:48:27 CEST schreef Ronal B Morse: FWIW, Fedora 28 installs Gnucash from repository into /usr/share. Thanks to everyone for all the hard work that goes into making Gnucash what it is. RBM Well close. It gets installed under /usr which is generally used by package managers. Parts of gnucash will end up in different subdirectories of /usr, like /usr/bin/gnucash for the program itself, /usr/lib for shared libraries, / usr/lib/gnucash/ for libraries intended to be used by gnucash internally only, /usr/share/gnucash/ for various data files and so on. Thanks for your appreciation by the way :) Regards, Geert ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu
Op woensdag 4 juli 2018 16:48:27 CEST schreef Ronal B Morse: > FWIW, Fedora 28 installs Gnucash from repository into /usr/share. > > Thanks to everyone for all the hard work that goes into making Gnucash > what it is. > > RBM Well close. It gets installed under /usr which is generally used by package managers. Parts of gnucash will end up in different subdirectories of /usr, like /usr/bin/gnucash for the program itself, /usr/lib for shared libraries, / usr/lib/gnucash/ for libraries intended to be used by gnucash internally only, /usr/share/gnucash/ for various data files and so on. Thanks for your appreciation by the way :) Regards, Geert ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu
hi Colin, Am 04.07.2018 um 16:37 schrieb Colin Law: > The wiki entry for building v3 on Ubuntu [1] has get me up and running > with little difficulty so many thanks who contributed to writing it. > > There is an error there, though, I think. The section on > install-target says for /usr/local: > > /usr/local - this location is commonly used for versions distributed > with linux distributions and is the default option. If installed here > the program will be available to all users on the system. If you use > this folder, use it with caution as installing from the distribution > will overwrite your build and vice versa. > > I do not believe that is correct. The distribution will not generally > install into /usr/local and in fact, at least on Ubuntu, this is a > common place to put home built stuff. Applications installed there > will not get overwritten by applications installed using apt-get. >From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard:> 9^ Historically and strictly according to the standard, /usr/local is for data that must be stored on the local host (as opposed to /usr, which may be mounted across a network). Most of the time /usr/local is used for installing software/data that are not part of the standard operating system distribution (in such case, /usr would only contain software/data that are part of the standard operating system distribution). It is possible that the FHS standard may in the future be changed to reflect this de facto convention. And the official FHS3.0 http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_3.0/fhs/ch04s09.html > Purpose > > The /usr/local hierarchy is for use by the system administrator when installing software locally. It needs to be safe from being overwritten when the system software is updated. It may be used for programs and data that are shareable amongst a group of hosts, but not found in /usr. > > Locally installed software must be placed within /usr/local rather than /usr unless it is being installed to replace or upgrade software in /usr. > Shall I go ahead and change that? So, yes, go for it. > Also I think the title could be improved to indicate that it is for > anything after Ubuntu 16.04. I know it says that in the text but the > title is confusing I think. > > Colin > > [1] https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/BuildUbuntu16.04 ~Frank ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
Re: [GNC] Building v3 - Wiki entry for Ubuntu
FWIW, Fedora 28 installs Gnucash from repository into /usr/share. Thanks to everyone for all the hard work that goes into making Gnucash what it is. RBM On 07/04/2018 08:37 AM, Colin Law wrote: The wiki entry for building v3 on Ubuntu [1] has get me up and running with little difficulty so many thanks who contributed to writing it. There is an error there, though, I think. The section on install-target says for /usr/local: /usr/local - this location is commonly used for versions distributed with linux distributions and is the default option. If installed here the program will be available to all users on the system. If you use this folder, use it with caution as installing from the distribution will overwrite your build and vice versa. I do not believe that is correct. The distribution will not generally install into /usr/local and in fact, at least on Ubuntu, this is a common place to put home built stuff. Applications installed there will not get overwritten by applications installed using apt-get. Shall I go ahead and change that? Also I think the title could be improved to indicate that it is for anything after Ubuntu 16.04. I know it says that in the text but the title is confusing I think. Colin [1] https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/BuildUbuntu16.04 ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All. ___ gnucash-user mailing list gnucash-user@gnucash.org To update your subscription preferences or to unsubscribe: https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo/gnucash-user If you are using Nabble or Gmane, please see https://wiki.gnucash.org/wiki/Mailing_Lists for more information. - Please remember to CC this list on all your replies. You can do this by using Reply-To-List or Reply-All.
